From aryasarah at yahoo.de Sun Jun 1 18:07:36 2008 From: aryasarah at yahoo.de (aryasarah) Date: Sun Jun 1 18:20:07 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Spotlight and LaTex files Message-ID: <7347EFF1-EEE9-480E-A05E-E2010135FB68@yahoo.de> Hi, I use Aquamacs to edit LaTeX files. Unfornuately Spotlight does not find LaTeX files (*.tex) after I had saved them in Aquamacs. Instead Spotlight only finds the backup files (*.tex?). So it seems as if Aquamacs destroys the Spotlight index. Is this a general problem with Aquamacs? Or is my emacs configuration wrong? I use Mac OS X 10.5.3 and Aquamacs 1.3rc1. Ciao! Sarah From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sun Jun 1 18:56:43 2008 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun Jun 1 18:56:58 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Spotlight and LaTex files In-Reply-To: <7347EFF1-EEE9-480E-A05E-E2010135FB68@yahoo.de> References: <7347EFF1-EEE9-480E-A05E-E2010135FB68@yahoo.de> Message-ID: Am 02.06.2008 um 00:07 schrieb aryasarah: > Unfornuately Spotlight does not find LaTeX files (*.tex) after I > had saved them in Aquamacs. Instead Spotlight only finds the backup > files (*.tex?). This isn't the proper conclusion. What you need is a metadata importer. They've usually put into /Library/Spotlight (in /System/ Library/Spotlight Apple stores their own ones). The TeXShop application comes with an internal (inside the application's bundle) TeX.mdimporter. Originally it was written by Norm Gall: http:// www.spookyhill.net/?s=TeX.mdimporter&searchsubmit=Find -- Greetings Pete One-Shot Case Study, n.: The scientific equivalent of the four-leaf clover, from which it is concluded all clovers possess four leaves and are sometimes green. From iwerning at gmail.com Sun Jun 1 19:12:29 2008 From: iwerning at gmail.com (Ivan Werning) Date: Sun Jun 1 19:12:36 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Spotlight and LaTex files In-Reply-To: References: <7347EFF1-EEE9-480E-A05E-E2010135FB68@yahoo.de> Message-ID: <7FE34265-F982-4A52-B88B-6BE96CC02607@gmail.com> On Jun 1, 2008, at 6:56 PM, Peter Dyballa wrote: > This isn't the proper conclusion. What you need is a metadata > importer. They've usually put into /Library/Spotlight (in /System/ > Library/Spotlight Apple stores their own ones). The TeXShop > application comes with an internal (inside the application's bundle) > TeX.mdimporter. Originally it was written by Norm Gall: http://www.spookyhill.net/?s=TeX.mdimporter&searchsubmit=Find > > -- > Greetings > > Pete Hi Pete How can I get my hands on this plug in? I went to Gall's website, got Google attacker warnings, ignored them but the link to download is broken. Googling didn't help. I don't have texshop but it seems that the plugin is installed within the application's structure (according to http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.macosx/26107) and not sure how it works for someone not using it. Thanks -Ivan From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sun Jun 1 19:46:47 2008 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun Jun 1 19:46:53 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Spotlight and LaTex files In-Reply-To: <7FE34265-F982-4A52-B88B-6BE96CC02607@gmail.com> References: <7347EFF1-EEE9-480E-A05E-E2010135FB68@yahoo.de> <7FE34265-F982-4A52-B88B-6BE96CC02607@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3938F29F-C9DA-42CB-B477-F75682AEED33@Web.DE> Am 02.06.2008 um 01:12 schrieb Ivan Werning: > How can I get my hands on this plug in? Open the application bundle (show contents) and visit Library/ Spotlight. Then copy or move (drag) the TeX.mdimporter to /Library/ Spotlight (it also should work with Apple HFS links or UNIX symbolic links). Maybe you need to run: sudo mdimport -r /Library/Spotlight/TeX.mdimporter mdimport -L should list it at once. -- Greetings Pete Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we. ? Georges W. Bush From vollmar at nf.mpg.de Mon Jun 2 07:51:16 2008 From: vollmar at nf.mpg.de (Stefan Vollmar) Date: Mon Jun 2 07:51:21 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Org-mode: smaller font size for calendar window Message-ID: <1166D340-8BBD-411E-A0F5-C253B8D26152@nf.mpg.de> Hello, when working in org-mode, I would like to have the calendar window use a smaller font size, say Courier 11 pt, while my default font size should remain Courier 13 pt. What is the best way to achieve this with Aquamacs 1.4rc1? Many thanks in advance, Stefan -- Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys. Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany Tel.: +49-221-4726-213 FAX +49-221-4726-298 Tel.: +49-221-478-5713 Mobile: 0160-93874279 Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de http://www.nf.mpg.de From vollmar at nf.mpg.de Mon Jun 2 15:41:13 2008 From: vollmar at nf.mpg.de (Stefan Vollmar) Date: Mon Jun 2 15:41:17 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4rc1 - mapping "Select Next Tab" Message-ID: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> Hello, I would like to map "Select Next Tab" from the Window menu of Aquamacs 1.4rc1 to a different keyboard shortcut (the default setting A-{ is not suitable for German keyboards). What is the Emacs command corresponding to this menu entry (is there a way to find the corresponding commands to any menu entry)? Many thanks in advance, Stefan -- Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys. Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany Tel.: +49-221-4726-213 FAX +49-221-4726-298 Tel.: +49-221-478-5713 Mobile: 0160-93874279 Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de http://www.nf.mpg.de From d.stegmueller at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 15:47:46 2008 From: d.stegmueller at gmail.com (Daniel Stegmueller) Date: Mon Jun 2 15:47:58 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4rc1 - mapping "Select Next Tab" In-Reply-To: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> Message-ID: The quickest way would be: (global-set-key [(control left)] 'previous-tab-or-buffer) (global-set-key [(control right)] 'next-tab-or-buffer) which sets it to ctrl-left and right... Best, Daniel Am 02.06.2008 um 21:41 schrieb Stefan Vollmar: > Hello, > > I would like to map "Select Next Tab" from the Window menu of > Aquamacs 1.4rc1 to a different keyboard shortcut (the default > setting A-{ is not suitable for German keyboards). What is the Emacs > command corresponding to this menu entry (is there a way to find the > corresponding commands to any menu entry)? > > Many thanks in advance, > Stefan > -- > Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys. > Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung > Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany > Tel.: +49-221-4726-213 FAX +49-221-4726-298 > Tel.: +49-221-478-5713 Mobile: 0160-93874279 > Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de http://www.nf.mpg.de > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx From david.reitter at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 15:51:51 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Mon Jun 2 15:51:55 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4rc1 - mapping "Select Next Tab" In-Reply-To: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> Message-ID: On 2 Jun 2008, at 20:41, Stefan Vollmar wrote: > > I would like to map "Select Next Tab" from the Window menu of > Aquamacs 1.4rc1 to a different keyboard shortcut (the default > setting A-{ is not suitable for German keyboards). What is the Emacs > command corresponding to this menu entry (is there a way to find the > corresponding commands to any menu entry)? Apple-Alt-left/right work, too, out-of-the-box. Apple-{ and } not working with German layouts is really bad. Not sure what to do about that. What is the equivalent key combination in Safari with a German layout? - David -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! From nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 16:00:49 2008 From: nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com (Nathaniel Cunningham) Date: Mon Jun 2 16:08:01 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4rc1 - mapping "Select Next Tab" In-Reply-To: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> Message-ID: <20ecf6c70806021300r125a0b47r31835e273e96c808@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Stefan Vollmar wrote: > > (is there a way to find the corresponding commands to any menu entry)? > Yes -- same as for a keyboard shortcut: C-h k e.g. C-h k Window-->Select Next Tab gives: runs the command next-tab-or-buffer --Nathaniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The last few lines should be sufficient. - David -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! From vollmar at nf.mpg.de Mon Jun 2 18:45:10 2008 From: vollmar at nf.mpg.de (Stefan Vollmar) Date: Mon Jun 2 19:45:16 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4rc1 - mapping "Select Next Tab" In-Reply-To: <20ecf6c70806021300r125a0b47r31835e273e96c808@mail.gmail.com> References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <20ecf6c70806021300r125a0b47r31835e273e96c808@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Nathaniel, On 02.06.2008, at 22:00, Nathaniel Cunningham wrote: > (is there a way to find the corresponding commands to any menu entry)? > > Yes -- same as for a keyboard shortcut: > > C-h k > > e.g. > C-h k Window-->Select Next Tab > gives: > runs the command next-tab-or-buffer Excellent - what a nice framework. Thanks, Stefan -- Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys. Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany Tel.: +49-221-4726-213 FAX +49-221-4726-298 Tel.: +49-221-478-5713 Mobile: 0160-93874279 Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de http://www.nf.mpg.de From saptarshi.guha at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 20:12:06 2008 From: saptarshi.guha at gmail.com (Saptarshi Guha) Date: Mon Jun 2 20:12:16 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Invalid Face Fb2:normal when I chose Color Theme In-Reply-To: <646DEFB4-CCBC-4351-BE24-395A770AE079@gmail.com> References: <4B8F6820-EFD3-4399-BC58-CF2EDF66FB86@gmail.com> <646DEFB4-CCBC-4351-BE24-395A770AE079@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello, This is the end of *Messages* Loading /Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/ color-theme-autoloads.el (source)...done Loading /Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/ color-theme-autoloads.elc...done Loading /Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/ color-theme-library.el.gz... uncompressing color-theme- library.el.gz...done Loading /Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/ color-theme-library.el.gz...done Loading /Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/ color-theme-library.elc...done face-attribute: Invalid face: fb2-normal I have a line (require 'linum) when i remove this line, it works, and if i add it,restart, it fails. Hope that helps Thanks Saptarshi On Jun 2, 2008, at 5:47 PM, David Reitter wrote: > On 2 Jun 2008, at 20:43, Saptarshi Guha wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am using Aquamacs v 1.4rc1. When I go to menu and chooise "Color >> Theme (This Frame)", >> the themes are unzipped but i get this error in the info bar >> >> Invalid Face fb2: Normal >> >> And no themes are loaded thereafter. > > Do you have anything else installed in your path that could be > loaded at that point? > What does *Messages* contain after this bug occurs? The last few > lines should be sufficient. > > - David > > > -- > http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X > http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor > and support the Aquamacs Project! > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx Saptarshi Guha | saptarshi.guha@gmail.com | http://www.stat.purdue.edu/~sguha < Overfiend> whew. < Overfiend> I really need to get some sleep. < Overfiend> but it sure was fun talking guitars, politics, and lesbians. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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That is,moving to the new (empty) tab and doing "find-file" Aquamacs opens a new tab for the file, and leaves the other one empty. As a result, the "open buffer in new tab" command is wasteful: once I do that, the new tab won't actually be used. Why isn't there an "open file in new tab" command or the like? I'm sure I'm missing something obvious, and there's probably even documentation somewhere of how to use this more efficiently. So I'd appreciate being pointed to what I ought to have read. Thanks, -- Steve Anderson From nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com Mon Jun 2 23:38:37 2008 From: nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com (Nathaniel Cunningham) Date: Mon Jun 2 23:44:45 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs Emacs 1.4rc1 [tabs] In-Reply-To: <38C9D943-F4E3-47C1-BA2D-D4DA08D1D433@yale.edu> References: <04EC68D2-BD96-4A02-AFA3-AC821737E3C6@GMAIL.COM> <38C9D943-F4E3-47C1-BA2D-D4DA08D1D433@yale.edu> Message-ID: <20ecf6c70806022038jca7395ep668feaf8e33cccbc@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Stephen R Anderson wrote: > I really like the new tabs feature. Thanks for the feedback! Suggestions on how to improve the interface are welcome. > > But I can't figure out just how it's supposed to work. In particular, when > I open a new tab and then try to put a buffer on it, I windup with yet > another tab, and the first one empty. We don't have any real documentation to help you out yet, so I'll quote a recent answer I gave to a similar question: "In our implementation, a tab is not a container the way a window is. Rather, it's a handle for a particular buffer (i.e. tabs are a UI for handling several buffers, not for managing multiple windows). You can't open a file in an existing tab. In order to have files open with a tab in the current window, make sure you've got Show Tabs checked and Pop Up Other Buffers in Frames unchecked. [Both are in the Options menu.] "In short, Show Tabs doesn't change which window/frame a buffer appears in; it just creates a tab in the tab bar for each buffer as it appears in any given window. I hope that helps." --Nathaniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080602/ed349b4b/attachment.html From david.reitter at gmail.com Tue Jun 3 03:28:35 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Tue Jun 3 03:28:42 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Invalid Face Fb2:normal when I chose Color Theme In-Reply-To: <20ecf6c70806022053j624c3c93n6f8e42065e450092@mail.gmail.com> References: <4B8F6820-EFD3-4399-BC58-CF2EDF66FB86@gmail.com> <646DEFB4-CCBC-4351-BE24-395A770AE079@gmail.com> <20ecf6c70806022053j624c3c93n6f8e42065e450092@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <856519B9-87E2-4C20-9903-D06ADD1E0095@gmail.com> On 3 Jun 2008, at 04:53, Nathaniel Cunningham wrote: > Hmm. I also > (require 'linum) > in my Preferences.el, but I don't have any trouble with Color Theme, > either in 1.4rc1 or the current nightly build. I can't reproduce this either with the latest linum (0.9wx). Possibly a bug in linum? -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! From vollmar at nf.mpg.de Tue Jun 3 07:47:32 2008 From: vollmar at nf.mpg.de (Stefan Vollmar) Date: Tue Jun 3 07:47:38 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4rc1 - mapping "Select Next Tab" In-Reply-To: References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> Message-ID: <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> Hello, On 02.06.2008, at 21:51, David Reitter wrote: > Apple-Alt-left/right work, too, out-of-the-box. this works for me. > Apple-{ and } not working with German layouts is really bad. Interestingly enough, this is also the shortcut used by Safari and is has two problems: to invoke Apple-{ on a German keyboard requires Apple-Alt-8 (this is awkward) and, by default, it is preset in Global Systems Settings for "Universal Access: Turn zoom on/off" so does not work at all initially. When using a German language Leopard, Safari uses Apple-Alt-ö and Apple-Alt-ä to change between tabs (which is still awkward but makes more sense). We observed one redundant shortcut: Apple- and Apple- have the same function as and so, maybe, and might also make good shortcuts for changing between Tabs. Warm regards, Stefan -- Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys. Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany Tel.: +49-221-4726-213 FAX +49-221-4726-298 Tel.: +49-221-478-5713 Mobile: 0160-93874279 Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de http://www.nf.mpg.de From david.reitter at gmail.com Tue Jun 3 08:47:43 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Tue Jun 3 08:54:13 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4rc1 - mapping "Select Next Tab" In-Reply-To: <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> Message-ID: On 3 Jun 2008, at 12:47, Stefan Vollmar wrote: > > When using a German language Leopard, Safari uses Apple-Alt-ö and > Apple-Alt-ä to change between tabs (which is still awkward but makes > more sense). OK, this might work. We can probably bind those unconditionally, but we won't show them in the menu. > We observed one redundant shortcut: Apple- and Apple- have > the same function as and so, maybe, and > might also make good shortcuts for changing between Tabs. Not all keyboards have home/end, and we also need to be consistent with other applications. - David -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! From eroche at mac.com Tue Jun 3 09:07:14 2008 From: eroche at mac.com (=?UTF-8?Q? Edward_M._Roche_=28=E6=B1=9F=E6=88=B8=E6=B5=AA?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E5=A3=AB=29 ?=) Date: Tue Jun 3 09:21:47 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Font embedding In-Reply-To: References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> Message-ID: <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> We are having a problem with sending PDF files to a commercial printer. We need to make sure that all fonts are embedded in the resulting PDF file, and that the file is "flattened". Otherwise, the print is not rendered properly. Does anyone know anything snout this or know if there is a simple aquamacs option that will ensure that when the latex file is converted to PDF it has all the fonts embedded? Cordially, Edward Sent from my iPhone. On Jun 3, 2008, at 5:47 AM, David Reitter wrote: > On 3 Jun 2008, at 12:47, Stefan Vollmar wrote: >> >> When using a German language Leopard, Safari uses Apple-Alt-ö and >> Apple-Alt-ä to change between tabs (which is still awkward but mak >> es more sense). > > OK, this might work. We can probably bind those unconditionally, > but we won't show them in the menu. > >> We observed one redundant shortcut: Apple- and Apple- >> have the same function as and so, maybe, and >> might also make good shortcuts for changing between Tabs. > > Not all keyboards have home/end, and we also need to be consistent > with other applications. > > - David > > > -- > http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X > http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor > and support the Aquamacs Project! > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue Jun 3 09:30:16 2008 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue Jun 3 09:30:22 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Font embedding In-Reply-To: <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> Message-ID: <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> Am 03.06.2008 um 15:07 schrieb Edward M. Roche (????): > Does anyone know anything snout this or know if there is a simple > aquamacs option that will ensure that when the latex file is > converted to PDF it has all the fonts embedded? From the Mac OS X print dialog you can choose between almost a dozen different PDF formats. There should be one compliant with "commercial" printers (PDF/X). Otherwise there is Adobe Acrobat for post-processing ... -- Greetings Pete When confronted with actual numbers, a mathematician is at a loss. ? Steffen Hokland From saptarshi.guha at gmail.com Tue Jun 3 09:36:38 2008 From: saptarshi.guha at gmail.com (Saptarshi Guha) Date: Tue Jun 3 09:36:46 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Invalid Face Fb2:normal when I chose Color Theme In-Reply-To: <856519B9-87E2-4C20-9903-D06ADD1E0095@gmail.com> References: <4B8F6820-EFD3-4399-BC58-CF2EDF66FB86@gmail.com> <646DEFB4-CCBC-4351-BE24-395A770AE079@gmail.com> <20ecf6c70806022053j624c3c93n6f8e42065e450092@mail.gmail.com> <856519B9-87E2-4C20-9903-D06ADD1E0095@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7BCE8765-3B81-4E62-B728-A286136BE345@gmail.com> Yes, it appears to be a bug in linum 0.9. I removed everything from my Preferences file but that one line and it failed. I upgraded to v0.9wx and it works. Thanks for the assistance Saptarshi On Jun 3, 2008, at 3:28 AM, David Reitter wrote: > On 3 Jun 2008, at 04:53, Nathaniel Cunningham wrote: > >> Hmm. I also >> (require 'linum) >> in my Preferences.el, but I don't have any trouble with Color >> Theme, either in 1.4rc1 or the current nightly build. > > I can't reproduce this either with the latest linum (0.9wx). > Possibly a bug in linum? > > > -- > http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X > http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor > and support the Aquamacs Project! > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx Saptarshi Guha | saptarshi.guha@gmail.com | http://www.stat.purdue.edu/~sguha -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2431 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080603/b94ba7dd/smime.bin From iwerning at gmail.com Tue Jun 3 09:38:46 2008 From: iwerning at gmail.com (Ivan Werning) Date: Tue Jun 3 10:42:36 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Font embedding In-Reply-To: <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> Message-ID: <70106E81-1976-493D-B1C7-3DC53146006A@gmail.com> On Jun 3, 2008, at 9:30 AM, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 03.06.2008 um 15:07 schrieb Edward M. Roche (????): > >> Does anyone know anything snout this or know if there is a simple >> aquamacs option that will ensure that when the latex file is >> converted to PDF it has all the fonts embedded? > I've had the same question... > > From the Mac OS X print dialog you can choose between almost a dozen > different PDF formats. There should be one compliant with > "commercial" printers (PDF/X). ...what do you mean exactly? Are you suggesting we first create the PDF with pdflatex (or latex-dvi2ps-ps2pdf) and then send print the document into a file? Is that what you man by the Mac OS X print dialog? I would have thought ps2pdf and pdflatex would have options for forcing embedding fonts (true type). Then I was wondering how best to ensure that aquamacs calls these options on the default compile. > > Otherwise there is Adobe Acrobat for post-processing ... > > From eroche at mac.com Tue Jun 3 11:23:48 2008 From: eroche at mac.com (Edward M. Roche) Date: Tue Jun 3 11:36:18 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Font embedding In-Reply-To: <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> Message-ID: Does anyone know how to make the latex to pdf function (from emacs) generate the PDF-X format instead of the PDF format? This would save lots of problems. Under present system I assume this is correct procedure: 1. create latex file. 2. create pdf file 3. open PDF file in Preview.app then "print" file to a PDF-X standard. IS that what works? Will that embedd the fonts? Please advise. (and thanks) Edward M. Roche emr96@columbia.edu On Tuesday, June 03, 2008, at 09:30AM, "Peter Dyballa" wrote: > >Am 03.06.2008 um 15:07 schrieb Edward M. Roche (????): > >> Does anyone know anything snout this or know if there is a simple >> aquamacs option that will ensure that when the latex file is >> converted to PDF it has all the fonts embedded? > > > From the Mac OS X print dialog you can choose between almost a dozen >different PDF formats. There should be one compliant with >"commercial" printers (PDF/X). Otherwise there is Adobe Acrobat for >post-processing ... > >-- >Greetings > > Pete > >When confronted with actual numbers, a mathematician is at a loss. > ? Steffen Hokland > > > > >_____________________________________________________________ >MacOSX-Emacs mailing list >MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu >http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs >List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > > From david.reitter at gmail.com Tue Jun 3 11:55:08 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Tue Jun 3 12:22:52 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Font embedding In-Reply-To: References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> Message-ID: On 3 Jun 2008, at 16:23, Edward M. Roche wrote: > Does anyone know how to make the latex to pdf function (from emacs) > generate the PDF-X format instead of the PDF format? > This would save lots of problems. These things are not editor but LaTeX questions. You would get more appropriate replies (if Google doesn't tell you) by asking in a TeX / LaTeX group such as comp.text.tex. -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! From eroche at mac.com Tue Jun 3 12:42:40 2008 From: eroche at mac.com (=?UTF-8?Q? Edward_M._Roche_=28=E6=B1=9F=E6=88=B8=E6=B5=AA?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E5=A3=AB=29 ?=) Date: Tue Jun 3 13:08:38 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Font embedding In-Reply-To: References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> Message-ID: Is there a set of options to choose different output options of latex mode? For example .PDF .ps or .PDF-x ? I know there are options to choose the viewer, but what about the output? Is that a latex issue? For example is it a non-emacs issue because it relates to a supporting program that is called up by emacs, but is distinct from it? Sent from my iPhone. On Jun 3, 2008, at 8:55 AM, David Reitter wrote: > On 3 Jun 2008, at 16:23, Edward M. Roche wrote: > >> Does anyone know how to make the latex to pdf function (from emacs) >> generate the PDF-X format instead of the PDF format? >> This would save lots of problems. > > These things are not editor but LaTeX questions. > You would get more appropriate replies (if Google doesn't tell you) > by asking in a TeX / LaTeX group such as comp.text.tex. > > > -- > http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X > http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor > and support the Aquamacs Project! > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx From david.reitter at gmail.com Tue Jun 3 13:21:56 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Tue Jun 3 13:28:52 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Font embedding In-Reply-To: References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> Message-ID: <1B69FA1B-F845-417D-80F4-4F4A73A2C0FA@gmail.com> On 3 Jun 2008, at 17:42, Edward M. Roche (????) wrote: > Is there a set of options to choose different output options of > latex mode? > For example .PDF .ps or .PDF-x ? Have you had a look in the menu (Command -> TeXing Options)? I can only see a PDF mode there. > I know there are options to choose the viewer, but what about the > output? The output is generated by (pdf)LaTeX. > Is that a latex issue? Yes. > For example is it a non-emacs issue because it relates to a > supporting program that is called up by emacs, but is distinct from > it? Precisely. You'll have the same issue with any other editor. - D From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue Jun 3 15:35:57 2008 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue Jun 3 15:37:04 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Font embedding In-Reply-To: <70106E81-1976-493D-B1C7-3DC53146006A@gmail.com> References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> <70106E81-1976-493D-B1C7-3DC53146006A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Am 03.06.2008 um 15:38 schrieb Ivan Werning: > ...what do you mean exactly? Are you suggesting we first create the > PDF with pdflatex (or latex-dvi2ps-ps2pdf) and then send print the > document into a file? Is that what you man by the Mac OS X print > dialog? No, no! You mixing up things. Edward clearly wrote about printing from a buffer or a region inside Aquamacs Emacs. Then the usual Mac OS X print dialog opens from which you can choose a few different formats to save to a PDF file. > > I would have thought ps2pdf and pdflatex would have options for > forcing embedding fonts (true type). This is set for the (user's) TeX installation and cannot be overridden on the command line (but an option exists to make a change). Look up the man page of updmap.cfg, the file(s) the updmap or updmap-sys utilities work on. Both these utilities create the settings for the user or for the whole system. And the user's setting overrides the one for the system. > Then I was wondering how best to ensure that aquamacs calls these > options on the default compile. Aquamacs Emacs can't do this. You're either using the built-in latex- mode, or the command line, or AUCTeX, or ... -- Greetings Pete Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. ? Albert Einstein From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue Jun 3 15:39:03 2008 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue Jun 3 15:39:14 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Font embedding In-Reply-To: References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> Message-ID: <409F291F-D5D6-4663-94C9-A86F834C5009@Web.DE> Am 03.06.2008 um 17:23 schrieb Edward M. Roche: > Does anyone know how to make the latex to pdf function (from emacs) What is the name of this function? > generate the PDF-X format Print the PDF output file from any PDF viewer! -- Greetings Pete ~ o ~_\\_/\ ~ O O From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue Jun 3 15:50:02 2008 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue Jun 3 15:50:08 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Font embedding In-Reply-To: References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> Message-ID: <83DE1A60-E578-41E7-9C7F-21300E4A8410@Web.DE> Am 03.06.2008 um 18:42 schrieb Edward M. Roche (????): > Is there a set of options to choose different output options of > latex mode? > For example .PDF .ps or .PDF-x ? The pdfTeX programme can only produce DVI or PDF output files. There are also utilities that can create RTF, HTML, ... output. Usually a ' --help' will show them. There is an option to set the PDF version number, but I am not sure whether this really sets the set of PDF commands, filters, etc. used in the PDF output file. PDF-X is no option for TeX. -- Greetings Pete Only useless documentation transcends the first two laws. ? Arnold's Third Law of Documentation From eroche at mac.com Tue Jun 3 16:32:10 2008 From: eroche at mac.com (=?UTF-8?Q? Edward_M._Roche_=28=E6=B1=9F=E6=88=B8=E6=B5=AA?= =?UTF-8?Q?=E5=A3=AB=29 ?=) Date: Tue Jun 3 16:32:30 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Font embedding In-Reply-To: <83DE1A60-E578-41E7-9C7F-21300E4A8410@Web.DE> References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> <83DE1A60-E578-41E7-9C7F-21300E4A8410@Web.DE> Message-ID: <0C969E8A-2AB8-41D6-91C3-502F91616837@mac.com> Hi Pete, and thanks. I don't suppose if the pdftex program embedds all of the fonts? Or if .dvI does? Sent from my iPhone. On Jun 3, 2008, at 12:50 PM, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 03.06.2008 um 18:42 schrieb Edward M. Roche (????): > >> Is there a set of options to choose different output options of >> latex mode? >> For example .PDF .ps or .PDF-x ? > > > The pdfTeX programme can only produce DVI or PDF output files. There > are also utilities that can create RTF, HTML, ... output. Usually a > ' --help' will show them. There is an option to set > the PDF version number, but I am not sure whether this really sets > the set of PDF commands, filters, etc. used in the PDF output file. > PDF-X is no option for TeX. > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > Only useless documentation transcends the first two laws. > ? Arnold's Third Law of Documentation > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx From david.reitter at gmail.com Tue Jun 3 17:35:06 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Tue Jun 3 17:35:14 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Font embedding In-Reply-To: References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> <70106E81-1976-493D-B1C7-3DC53146006A@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 3 Jun 2008, at 20:35, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 03.06.2008 um 15:38 schrieb Ivan Werning: > >> ...what do you mean exactly? Are you suggesting we first create the >> PDF with pdflatex (or latex-dvi2ps-ps2pdf) and then send print the >> document into a file? Is that what you man by the Mac OS X print >> dialog? > > No, no! You mixing up things. Edward clearly wrote about printing > from a buffer or a region inside Aquamacs Emacs. Then the usual Mac > OS X print dialog opens from which you can choose a few different > formats to save to a PDF file. Yes, of course, but that's clearly not how I understood him... as in his latest message: > Hi Pete, and thanks. I don't suppose if the pdftex program embedds > all of the fonts? Or if .dvI does? From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue Jun 3 17:35:17 2008 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue Jun 3 17:35:23 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Font embedding In-Reply-To: <0C969E8A-2AB8-41D6-91C3-502F91616837@mac.com> References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> <83DE1A60-E578-41E7-9C7F-21300E4A8410@Web.DE> <0C969E8A-2AB8-41D6-91C3-502F91616837@mac.com> Message-ID: Am 03.06.2008 um 22:32 schrieb Edward M. Roche (????): > I don't suppose if the pdftex program embedds all of the fonts? It can. It depends on the TeX set-up. 'man updmap.cfg' explains. You can use the pdffonts programme (from the Xpdf suite) to check. Notice that the PDF spec says not to include/embed the standard 14 PostScript fonts (Times, Helvetica, Courier, Symbol, Zapf-Dingbats). updmap --setoption pdftexDownloadBase14 true updmap --setoption dvipdfmDownloadBase14 true updmap --setoption dvipsDownloadBase true will "embed" all fonts in PS or PDF output. Dvips offers to include the complete font into its PostScript output ? which can be illegal. Check your fonts' licenses! Pdftk allows to "flatten" a PDF file ? whatever this is! > Or if .dvI does? DVI does not. It always references the font names. Then the output driver (dvipdfm, dvips, ...) fills in ... -- Greetings Pete Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. ? Rich Cook From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue Jun 3 17:58:24 2008 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue Jun 3 17:58:30 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Font embedding In-Reply-To: References: <6257D6D6-13A6-4416-9DFD-DED484BE12E4@nf.mpg.de> <76AC16BF-657D-4A69-8317-87A51032F84F@nf.mpg.de> <46E9A83C-1D36-4FDB-B136-CF9B593EE6DF@mac.com> <3171B9DA-8F76-42DC-A3A1-CB48EC89A070@Web.DE> <70106E81-1976-493D-B1C7-3DC53146006A@gmail.com> Message-ID: Am 03.06.2008 um 23:35 schrieb David Reitter: > Yes, of course, but that's clearly not how I understood him... as > in his latest message: After usurping the thread for his private purposes it finally came out ... -- Mit friedvollen Grüßen Pete They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. 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From david.reitter at gmail.com Fri Jun 6 07:21:19 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Fri Jun 6 07:45:31 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs Emacs 1.4rc2 Message-ID: <38C2549A-97E4-420F-9DB7-798259DDDD2B@gmail.com> Aquamacs Emacs 1.4 Release Candidate 2 is on our servers for you to download, check out and tinker with. Of course we'd like your feedback on aquamacs-bugs@aquamacs.org. To report bugs, please use Help -> Send Bug Report. http://aquamacs.org/download.shtml (1.4rc2 is a "preview" version: it may contain unresolved issues.) What's new? This is a feature release providing tabs, persistent *scratch* buffers, full screen editing a redesigned tool-bar with better-looking icons, much improved LaTeX support, multilingual Aspell support for spell-checking (hassle-free use of dictionaries), better frame positioning on dual-screen setups, and, and, and... Note: tabs are enabled in the Options menu. De-select "Show Buffers in New Frames" to open new files in their own tabs. -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! From david at inferiorplanet.co.uk Fri Jun 6 08:50:57 2008 From: david at inferiorplanet.co.uk (David Hunnisett) Date: Fri Jun 6 09:06:40 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs Emacs 1.4rc2 In-Reply-To: <38C2549A-97E4-420F-9DB7-798259DDDD2B@gmail.com> References: <38C2549A-97E4-420F-9DB7-798259DDDD2B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Full screen mode has an odd "feature". If aquaemacs is in full screen mode and you quit with C-x C-c then when you start up again the size is remembered but the full screen status isnt. This means the mini-buffer is invisible. Toggling full screen again makes it work though On 6 Jun 2008, at 12:21, David Reitter wrote: > Aquamacs Emacs 1.4 Release Candidate 2 is on our servers for you to > download, check out and tinker with. > Of course we'd like your feedback on aquamacs-bugs@aquamacs.org. To > report bugs, please use Help -> Send Bug Report. > > http://aquamacs.org/download.shtml > > (1.4rc2 is a "preview" version: it may contain unresolved issues.) > > What's new? > This is a feature release providing tabs, persistent *scratch* > buffers, full screen editing a redesigned tool-bar with better- > looking icons, much improved LaTeX support, multilingual Aspell > support for spell-checking (hassle-free use of dictionaries), better > frame positioning on dual-screen setups, and, and, and... > > Note: tabs are enabled in the Options menu. De-select "Show Buffers > in New Frames" to open new files in their own tabs. > > -- > http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X > http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor > and support the Aquamacs Project! > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx From geoffrey.ferrari at googlemail.com Fri Jun 6 19:03:51 2008 From: geoffrey.ferrari at googlemail.com (geoffrey.ferrari@googlemail.com) Date: Fri Jun 6 20:02:52 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] ispell with LaTeX (Error in post-command-hook) Message-ID: Hi, I have a problem using ispell on latex files under Aquamacs 1.3b on Leopard. When I try to run ispell using flyspell I get the following error message: Error in post-command-hook: (error Process ispell not running) Flyspell/ispell work fine for text files, but they hang with the above error on latex files. I've temporarily removed any customizations so it must be a problem with the default installation. In case it's relevant, I have both ispell and aspell installed using macports. I get the same error whether I use ispell.el with ispell or with aspell (by setting the variable ispell-program-name to "aspell"). I also use the macports version of carbon emacs, and the same problem occurs there. With thanks for any suggestions, Geoffrey Ferrari From nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com Sat Jun 7 01:24:17 2008 From: nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com (Nathaniel Cunningham) Date: Sat Jun 7 01:24:23 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] ispell with LaTeX (Error in post-command-hook) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20ecf6c70806062224m4a8b2586m4f54e9ba10a9fbfa@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:03 PM, wrote: > > I have a problem using ispell on latex files under Aquamacs 1.3b on > Leopard. When I try to run ispell using flyspell I get the following error > message: I reproduce this, doing M-x flyspell-buffer on a LaTeX file. I'm not sure what causes this, but it is apparently solved in 1.4rc2 -- please download from http://aquamacs.org/download.shtml and see if that takes care of the issue. --Nathaniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080607/080f244b/attachment.html From geoffrey.ferrari at googlemail.com Sat Jun 7 01:59:50 2008 From: geoffrey.ferrari at googlemail.com (geoffrey.ferrari@googlemail.com) Date: Sat Jun 7 02:07:06 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Re: ispell with LaTeX (Error in post-command-hook) In-Reply-To: <20ecf6c70806062224m4a8b2586m4f54e9ba10a9fbfa@mail.gmail.com> (Nathaniel Cunningham's message of "Sat\, 7 Jun 2008 00\:24\:17 -0500") References: <20ecf6c70806062224m4a8b2586m4f54e9ba10a9fbfa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for your reply. I get the same problem with Aquamacs 1.4rc2, and on both Intel and PowerPC macs. Geoff "Nathaniel Cunningham" writes: > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:03 PM, wrote: > > I have a problem using ispell on latex files under Aquamacs 1.3b on > Leopard. When I try to run ispell using flyspell I get the following error > message: > > I reproduce this, doing M-x flyspell-buffer on a LaTeX file. > > I'm not sure what causes this, but it is apparently solved in 1.4rc2 -- please > download from http://aquamacs.org/download.shtml and see if that takes care of > the issue. > > --Nathaniel > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx From david.reitter at gmail.com Sat Jun 7 07:12:19 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Sat Jun 7 07:12:25 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs | migration from PPC to Intel Mac | Loss of Tex In-Reply-To: References: <38C2549A-97E4-420F-9DB7-798259DDDD2B@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3AC5747C-A743-4E03-AFAA-03A8533A5311@gmail.com> On 6 Jun 2008, at 17:24, Edward M. Roche wrote: > Has anyone had experience moving from a PPC to Intel mac using the > Account Migration feature [that copies all files across a network > link] whereupon the Latex features of Aquamacs no longer work on the > new installation? > Stranger for me is that the TexShop installation works. Does that > possibly mean that on the previous machine there were two instances > of Tex installed, one used by Aquamacs one by TexShop? Or does it > mean something else? > For example, is there a set of setting in Aquamacs that tells where > to look for the Tex installation? > Any advice would be appreciated. > p.s. I have deleted and re-installed Aquamacs on the new machine, > but the problem still persists. I'm copying this over from the aquamacs-bugs list, because it's unlikely to be a bug in Aquamacs. A good test for these cases is to fire up a terminal (Terminal.app) and see if "latex" works from there. This will be the case if the "PATH" setting is correct within a login shell. In that case, an unconfigured Aquamacs will (in most situations, i.e. with a Bash shell) also find the "latex" executables. -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! From nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com Sat Jun 7 16:10:38 2008 From: nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com (Nathaniel Cunningham) Date: Sat Jun 7 16:10:42 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Re: ispell with LaTeX (Error in post-command-hook) In-Reply-To: References: <20ecf6c70806062224m4a8b2586m4f54e9ba10a9fbfa@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20ecf6c70806071310v386c063esf0e16d902a82445e@mail.gmail.com> Geoff, The problem lies with aspell, not with Aquamacs. I'd forgotten that the latest version of aspell (0.60.6) pukes when run with the tex filter set. See the aspell bug report: http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1964141&group_id=245&atid=100245 I reproduce your error with Aquamacs 1.4rc2 and aspell 0.60.6, but it works fine with aspell 0.60.5 or 0.60.4. I don't have the same issue you report if I use ispell -- (setq ispell-program-name "ispell") --Nathaniel On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 12:59 AM, wrote: > Thanks for your reply. I get the same problem with Aquamacs 1.4rc2, and on > both Intel and PowerPC macs. > > Geoff > > "Nathaniel Cunningham" writes: > > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 6:03 PM, wrote: > > > > I have a problem using ispell on latex files under Aquamacs 1.3b on > > Leopard. When I try to run ispell using flyspell I get the following > error > > message: > > > > I reproduce this, doing M-x flyspell-buffer on a LaTeX file. > > > > I'm not sure what causes this, but it is apparently solved in 1.4rc2 -- > please > > download from http://aquamacs.org/download.shtml and see if that takes > care of > > the issue. > > > > --Nathaniel > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080607/79353fbf/attachment.html From iwerning at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 13:38:02 2008 From: iwerning at gmail.com (Ivan Werning) Date: Tue Jun 10 14:03:58 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] emacs and latex on iPhone? Message-ID: Does anyone know if one could have some version of Emacs and LaTeX working (together) on an iPhone? -Ivan From trepca at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 14:08:39 2008 From: trepca at gmail.com (Sebastjan Trepca) Date: Tue Jun 10 14:37:55 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance Message-ID: Hey, having a few problems with performance. I use ido-mode and it's quite slower in 1.4 then in 1.3. I use the same .emacs file etc. Any ideas what's causing this or how could I trace the source? Anyway, full screen mode is great! :) Thanks, Sebastjan From avdi at avdi.org Tue Jun 10 14:53:04 2008 From: avdi at avdi.org (Avdi Grimm) Date: Tue Jun 10 15:19:35 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Sebastjan Trepca wrote: > having a few problems with performance. I use ido-mode and it's quite > slower in 1.4 then in 1.3. I use the same .emacs file etc. Any ideas > what's causing this or how could I trace the source? I've noticed this too. 1.4rc2 seems a hair faster than rc1, but that might be my imagination. -- Avdi Home: http://avdi.org Developer Blog: http://avdi.org/devblog/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/avdi Journal: http://avdi.livejournal.com From g.evstratov at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 15:10:53 2008 From: g.evstratov at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?0JPQtdC90LA=?=) Date: Tue Jun 10 16:12:49 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3f42caa40806101210s18c093d7mac3d3e4ce311ba10@mail.gmail.com> I have the same problems. It's so slow, that I even had to switch back to 1.3. From j.m.figueroa at ed.ac.uk Tue Jun 10 18:00:26 2008 From: j.m.figueroa at ed.ac.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Miguel_Figueroa-O'Farrill?=) Date: Tue Jun 10 18:34:41 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: <3f42caa40806101210s18c093d7mac3d3e4ce311ba10@mail.gmail.com> References: <3f42caa40806101210s18c093d7mac3d3e4ce311ba10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5D72A168-7B55-4637-B17C-E77B55E5D475@ed.ac.uk> On 10 Jun 2008, at 20:10, ???? wrote: > I have the same problems. > > It's so slow, that I even had to switch back to 1.3. I can also corroborate this. I too have gone back to 1.3, since I'm at a critical time where I cannot afford to be without a working Emacs. I may be able to help debug this, but not in the next couple of weeks. Cheers, José -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From david.reitter at gmail.com Tue Jun 10 18:46:01 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Tue Jun 10 18:46:06 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1977F1A1-EEBC-4AE2-B6C1-E7CD3AB344E6@gmail.com> On 10 Jun 2008, at 19:08, Sebastjan Trepca wrote: > > having a few problems with performance. I use ido-mode and it's quite > slower in 1.4 then in 1.3. I use the same .emacs file etc. Any ideas > what's causing this or how could I trace the source? Difficult. Tabbar mode could affect this, even though it is unlikely. It would be helpful if you downloaded a build of GNU Emacs from the Aquamacs website (nightly builds) and tried that. Also, I don't use ido-mode (maybe I should), so please describe which function you use that is slow. `iso-switch-buffer' is fast for me. You can write just to aquamacs-bugs, since it's obviously a bug. -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! From avdi at avdi.org Tue Jun 10 22:10:32 2008 From: avdi at avdi.org (Avdi Grimm) Date: Tue Jun 10 22:35:49 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: <1977F1A1-EEBC-4AE2-B6C1-E7CD3AB344E6@gmail.com> References: <1977F1A1-EEBC-4AE2-B6C1-E7CD3AB344E6@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:46 PM, David Reitter wrote: > Also, I don't use ido-mode (maybe I should), so please describe which > function you use that is slow. `iso-switch-buffer' is fast for me. The find-files replacement is what is slow for me. Without looking at the code I know that it is, at the least, doing an 'ls' or equivalent each time you go up or down directories while finding a file. Is there any change that might have drastically slowed down directory IO? -- Avdi Home: http://avdi.org Developer Blog: http://avdi.org/devblog/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/avdi Journal: http://avdi.livejournal.com From david.reitter at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 02:49:11 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Wed Jun 11 02:49:18 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <1977F1A1-EEBC-4AE2-B6C1-E7CD3AB344E6@gmail.com> Message-ID: <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> On 11 Jun 2008, at 03:10, Avdi Grimm wrote: > > > Without looking at the code I know that it is, at the least, doing an > 'ls' or equivalent each time you go up or down directories while > finding a file. Is there any change that might have drastically > slowed down directory IO? I know of no such change: certainly not on the level of Aquamacs. It's possible that a change to Emacs 22 has caused this. Please investigate. Enable "Enter Debugger on Quit", then start an operation within find-file and ido-mode that will lead to a "wait", then press C-g while you wait. Have a look at what's happening at the moment. It may be helpful to do this a couple of times to see if it's consistent. Also, try the GNU Emacs build from the Aquamacs web site (nightly builds), or at least start Aquamacs with -Q. Btw, I can't reproduce: everything is fast and zippy for me. -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This is the traceback: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (quit) completing-read("Find file: ~/dev/proj/" (("dummy" 0.1)) nil nil nil ido-file-history) (catch (quote ido) (completing-read (ido-make-prompt item prompt) (quote ...) nil nil (prog1 ido-text-init ...) history)) (setq ido-final-text (catch (quote ido) (completing-read ... ... nil nil ... history))) (let ((minibuffer-local-completion-map ido-mode-map) (max-mini-window-height ...) (ido-completing-read t) (ido-require-match require-match) (ido-use-mycompletion-depth ...) (show-paren-mode nil)) (setq ido-exit nil) (setq ido-final-text (catch ... ...))) (while (not done) (ido-trace "\n_LOOP_") (setq ido-exit nil) (setq ido-rescan t) (setq ido-rotate nil) (setq ido-text "") (if ido-set-default-item (setq ido-default-item ... ido-set-default-item nil)) (if ido-process-ignore-lists-inhibit (setq ido-process-ignore-lists nil)) (if (and ido-use-merged-list ... ...) (let ... ...)) (cond (ido-keep-item-list ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (t nil)) (setq ido-rotate-temp nil) (if ido-process-ignore-lists-inhibit (setq ido-process-ignore-lists t ido-process-ignore-lists-inhibit nil)) (ido-set-matches) (if (and ido-matches ...) (setq ido-try-merged-list t)) (let (... ... ... ... ... ...) (setq ido-exit nil) (setq ido-final-text ...)) (ido-trace "completing-read" ido-final-text) (if (get-buffer ido-completion-buffer) (kill-buffer ido-completion-buffer)) (ido-trace "\n_EXIT_" ido-exit) (cond (... ... nil) (... ...) (... ... nil) (... ...) (... ...) (... ... ...) (... ...) (t ... ...))) (let ((ido-cur-item item) (ido-entry-buffer ...) (ido-process-ignore-lists t) (ido-process-ignore-lists-inhibit nil) (ido-set-default-item t) ido-selected ido-final-text (done nil) (icomplete-mode nil) ido-cur-list ido-ignored-list (ido-rotate-temp nil) (ido-keep-item-list nil) (ido-use-merged-list nil) (ido-try-merged-list t) (ido-pre-merge-state nil) (ido-case-fold ido-case-fold) (ido-enable-prefix ido-enable-prefix) (ido-enable-regexp ido-enable-regexp)) (ido-define-mode-map) (setq ido-text-init initial) (while (not done) (ido-trace "\n_LOOP_") (setq ido-exit nil) (setq ido-rescan t) (setq ido-rotate nil) (setq ido-text "") (if ido-set-default-item ...) (if ido-process-ignore-lists-inhibit ...) (if ... ...) (cond ... ... ... ... ...) (setq ido-rotate-temp nil) (if ido-process-ignore-lists-inhibit ...) (ido-set-matches) (if ... ...) (let ... ... ...) (ido-trace "completing-read" ido-final-text) (if ... ...) (ido-trace "\n_EXIT_" ido-exit) (cond ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...)) ido-selected) ido-read-internal(file "Find file: " ido-file-history nil nil nil) (setq filename (ido-read-internal (or item ...) (or prompt "Find file: ") (quote ido-file-history) default nil initial)) (if filename nil (setq ido-saved-vc-mt vc-master-templates) (setq filename (ido-read-internal ... ... ... default nil initial))) (unless filename (setq ido-saved-vc-mt vc-master-templates) (setq filename (ido-read-internal ... ... ... default nil initial))) (let (ido-saved-vc-mt (vc-master-templates ...) (ido-work-directory-index -1) (ido-work-file-index -1) (ido-find-literal nil)) (unless filename (setq ido-saved-vc-mt vc-master-templates) (setq filename ...)) (cond (... ...) (... ...) (... ...) (... ... ... ... ...) (... ... ...) (... ... ... ... ... ...) (... ... ... ... ... ...) (... ... ... ... ... ...) (filename ... ... ... ... ...))) (let ((ido-current-directory ...) filename) (if (or ... ...) (setq filename t ido-exit ...)) (let (ido-saved-vc-mt ... ... ... ...) (unless filename ... ...) (cond ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...))) ido-file-internal(always-frame) ido-find-file() call-interactively(ido-find-file) There is some stuff with VC so I disabled it and got about 50% increase in speed. But it's still not as snappy as in 1.3. Sebastjan On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:49 AM, David Reitter wrote: > On 11 Jun 2008, at 03:10, Avdi Grimm wrote: >> >> >> Without looking at the code I know that it is, at the least, doing an >> 'ls' or equivalent each time you go up or down directories while >> finding a file. Is there any change that might have drastically >> slowed down directory IO? > > I know of no such change: certainly not on the level of Aquamacs. It's > possible that a change to Emacs 22 has caused this. > > Please investigate. Enable "Enter Debugger on Quit", then start an > operation within find-file and ido-mode that will lead to a "wait", then > press C-g while you wait. Have a look at what's happening at the moment. > It may be helpful to do this a couple of times to see if it's consistent. > > Also, try the GNU Emacs build from the Aquamacs web site (nightly builds), > or at least start Aquamacs with -Q. > > Btw, I can't reproduce: everything is fast and zippy for me. > > -- > http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X > http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and > support the Aquamacs Project! > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > > From david.reitter at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 03:57:27 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Wed Jun 11 03:57:35 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <1977F1A1-EEBC-4AE2-B6C1-E7CD3AB344E6@gmail.com> <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> Message-ID: <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> On 11 Jun 2008, at 08:44, Sebastjan Trepca wrote: > Tried the nightly builds, still the same. OK, have you tried a GNU Emacs (not Aquamacs) build from the nightly builds page? Do you get the same slow-down? -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! From trepca at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 04:11:10 2008 From: trepca at gmail.com (Sebastjan Trepca) Date: Wed Jun 11 04:11:13 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> References: <1977F1A1-EEBC-4AE2-B6C1-E7CD3AB344E6@gmail.com> <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> Message-ID: Gnu Emacs is super fast. Sebastjan On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 9:57 AM, David Reitter wrote: > On 11 Jun 2008, at 08:44, Sebastjan Trepca wrote: > >> Tried the nightly builds, still the same. > > OK, have you tried a GNU Emacs (not Aquamacs) build from the nightly builds > page? > Do you get the same slow-down? > > > -- > http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X > http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and > support the Aquamacs Project! > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > > From david.reitter at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 05:17:44 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Wed Jun 11 05:17:51 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <1977F1A1-EEBC-4AE2-B6C1-E7CD3AB344E6@gmail.com> <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 11 Jun 2008, at 09:11, Sebastjan Trepca wrote: > Gnu Emacs is super fast. OK, then let's debug this a little further. The steps to debug such problems are usually the same, so I'll keep posting this to the mailing list. Start Aquamacs with -q, which will disable all your personal settings. From a shell, enter "/Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Aquamacs Emacs" -q Can you reproduce the problem now? If the problem is gone, it has to do with your personal settings or plugins. Remove them, one by one (or half of them, in a binary search fashion) to isolate the problem. If you have a plugin such as the ECE Plugin installed, remove it. It will be in ~/Library/Application Support/Aquamacs Emacs, or in a similar place in the system-wide /Library or in (~)/Library/ Application Support/Emacs. If the problem is still there, you need to describe, step by step, how to reproduce it. Describe every input you make, literally. Do not expect me or anyone to know the mode you're using, or even what it does. There are hundreds of Emacs packages out there and even if many of them are included in Aquamacs, we do not necessarily know how to operate them. Also, start Aquamacs like this: "/Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Aquamacs Emacs" -Q This will start Aquamacs in a mode that will disable most of the Aquamacs-specific settings. You will find that the use is very different from what you are used to. It is more similar to GNU Emacs. Can you reproduce the problem? If so, then it is a bug that is likely to be present in GNU Emacs. Thanks for your help. -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2193 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080611/c6e54a3c/smime.bin From trepca at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 06:15:08 2008 From: trepca at gmail.com (Sebastjan Trepca) Date: Wed Jun 11 06:22:31 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <1977F1A1-EEBC-4AE2-B6C1-E7CD3AB344E6@gmail.com> <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> Message-ID: Ok, I created a new user and started Aquamacs. There are no preferences or customizations set(global also). All I do is enable ido "M-x ido-mode" and then play with it (which is a bit strange, because there was no ido-mode included in the last Aquamacs). I do this for both modes -Q and normal mode. The first one is superfast, the second takes about half a second for each completion. Sebastjan On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:17 AM, David Reitter wrote: > On 11 Jun 2008, at 09:11, Sebastjan Trepca wrote: > >> Gnu Emacs is super fast. > > OK, then let's debug this a little further. > > The steps to debug such problems are usually the same, so I'll keep posting > this to the mailing list. > > Start Aquamacs with -q, which will disable all your personal settings. From > a shell, enter > > "/Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Aquamacs Emacs" -q > > Can you reproduce the problem now? > If the problem is gone, it has to do with your personal settings or plugins. > Remove them, one by one (or half of them, in a binary search fashion) to > isolate the problem. > If you have a plugin such as the ECE Plugin installed, remove it. It will > be in ~/Library/Application Support/Aquamacs Emacs, or in a similar place in > the system-wide /Library or in (~)/Library/Application Support/Emacs. > > If the problem is still there, you need to describe, step by step, how to > reproduce it. Describe every input you make, literally. Do not expect me > or anyone to know the mode you're using, or even what it does. There are > hundreds of Emacs packages out there and even if many of them are included > in Aquamacs, we do not necessarily know how to operate them. > > Also, start Aquamacs like this: > > "/Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Aquamacs Emacs" -Q > > This will start Aquamacs in a mode that will disable most of the > Aquamacs-specific settings. You will find that the use is very different > from what you are used to. It is more similar to GNU Emacs. Can you > reproduce the problem? > If so, then it is a bug that is likely to be present in GNU Emacs. > > Thanks for your help. > > > -- > http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X > http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and > support the Aquamacs Project! > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > > From lindsay.stirton at manchester.ac.uk Wed Jun 11 06:17:38 2008 From: lindsay.stirton at manchester.ac.uk (Lindsay Stirton (Dr)) Date: Wed Jun 11 06:43:06 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] emacs and latex on iPhone? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1213179458.16794.9.camel@ljs-desktop> Can anyone imagine typing M-x extremely-convoluted-command on the iPhone virtual keyboard? I think for that reason emacs on iPhone is a no-no. You are right though that what the iPhone really needs is a great editor--even taking for granted that you are not going to write a 300 page monograph on your phone. I can imagine a cut-down version of TextMate might be the business. Lindsay On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 13:38 -0400, Ivan Werning wrote: > Does anyone know if one could have some version of Emacs and LaTeX > working (together) on an iPhone? > > -Ivan > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx From david.reitter at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 07:02:14 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Wed Jun 11 07:02:20 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <1977F1A1-EEBC-4AE2-B6C1-E7CD3AB344E6@gmail.com> <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> Message-ID: <8869A47A-BF86-49F5-8435-C3C60E854ADE@gmail.com> On 11 Jun 2008, at 11:15, Sebastjan Trepca wrote: > Ok, I created a new user and started Aquamacs. There are no > preferences or customizations set(global also). > > All I do is enable ido "M-x ido-mode" and then play with it (which is > a bit strange, because there was no ido-mode included in the last > Aquamacs). eh? ido-mode should be included. Please type M-x lisp-interaction-mode RET (locate-library "ido") Followed by C-j You should see a path. What is it? > I do this for both modes -Q and normal mode. The first one is > superfast, the second takes about half a second for each completion. OK, it is definitely something that happens in Aquamacs. One thing that may be causing this is smart frame positioning, which has been improved since 1.3. Please execute (remove-hook 'minibuffer-setup-hook 'smart-move-minibuffer-inside- screen) (type C-x C-e after entering the above). Then try again. Faster now? The other thing may be related to the tool bar, which has improved greatly. Try turning it off before entering C-x C-f. Does this make a difference? - D -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I can speak for this one - I always disable my toolbar, and I'm seeing the issue. -- Avdi Home: http://avdi.org Developer Blog: http://avdi.org/devblog/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/avdi Journal: http://avdi.livejournal.com From trepca at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 10:56:02 2008 From: trepca at gmail.com (Sebastjan Trepca) Date: Wed Jun 11 10:56:06 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: <8869A47A-BF86-49F5-8435-C3C60E854ADE@gmail.com> References: <1977F1A1-EEBC-4AE2-B6C1-E7CD3AB344E6@gmail.com> <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> <8869A47A-BF86-49F5-8435-C3C60E854ADE@gmail.com> Message-ID: > You should see a path. What is it? /Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/ido.elc > (remove-hook 'minibuffer-setup-hook 'smart-move-minibuffer-inside-screen) > > (type C-x C-e after entering the above). > Then try again. Faster now? Tiny faster. > The other thing may be related to the tool bar, which has improved greatly. > Try turning it off before entering C-x C-f. Does this make a difference? Not at all. Sebastjan From avdi at avdi.org Wed Jun 11 11:15:20 2008 From: avdi at avdi.org (Avdi Grimm) Date: Wed Jun 11 11:15:24 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <1977F1A1-EEBC-4AE2-B6C1-E7CD3AB344E6@gmail.com> <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:17 AM, David Reitter wrote: > "/Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Aquamacs Emacs" -q Bash reports no such file or directory when I do this. There is no Aquamacs Emacs in that directory, only bin and libexec directories. -- Avdi Home: http://avdi.org Developer Blog: http://avdi.org/devblog/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/avdi Journal: http://avdi.livejournal.com From markoilcan at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 11:18:10 2008 From: markoilcan at gmail.com (M A) Date: Wed Jun 11 11:43:00 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] emacs and latex on iPhone? In-Reply-To: <1213179458.16794.9.camel@ljs-desktop> References: <1213179458.16794.9.camel@ljs-desktop> Message-ID: <9ab34dfc0806110818r5de8d49fn433872a0dbac07df@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Lindsay Stirton (Dr) wrote: > Can anyone imagine typing M-x extremely-convoluted-command on the iPhone > virtual keyboard? I think for that reason emacs on iPhone is a no-no. > > Why not? Typing a convoluted command is no harder than typing anything else. I think the only question is whether one accepts the premise of doing any typing at all on the iphone/ipod touch. If so, emacs is no less a good choice than any other editor (well, there may be questions about memory and processor requirements, but that's another issue). Once you install the BSD layer, I would think that emacs should certainly be possible (vi is already there), but I don't know of any efforts in this direction. I wouldn't expect any official development from GNU since the platform is not open, but I would certainly be happy if someone did it. Mark A From david.reitter at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 11:18:09 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Wed Jun 11 11:43:54 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <1977F1A1-EEBC-4AE2-B6C1-E7CD3AB344E6@gmail.com> <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> Message-ID: <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> On 11 Jun 2008, at 16:15, Avdi Grimm wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:17 AM, David Reitter > wrote: >> "/Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Aquamacs Emacs" -q > > Bash reports no such file or directory when I do this. There is no > Aquamacs Emacs in that directory, only bin and libexec directories. How about changing the path to match the location of your Aquamacs application? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Sebastjan On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:18 PM, David Reitter wrote: > On 11 Jun 2008, at 16:15, Avdi Grimm wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:17 AM, David Reitter >> wrote: >>> >>> "/Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Aquamacs Emacs" -q >> >> Bash reports no such file or directory when I do this. There is no >> Aquamacs Emacs in that directory, only bin and libexec directories. > > How about changing the path to match the location of your Aquamacs > application? > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > > From trepca at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 11:49:17 2008 From: trepca at gmail.com (Sebastjan Trepca) Date: Wed Jun 11 11:56:02 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <1977F1A1-EEBC-4AE2-B6C1-E7CD3AB344E6@gmail.com> <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> Message-ID: Damn, sorry, copied the wrong one :) /Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/lisp/ido.elc Sebastjan On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Avdi Grimm wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:17 AM, David Reitter wrote: >> "/Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Aquamacs Emacs" -q > > Bash reports no such file or directory when I do this. There is no > Aquamacs Emacs in that directory, only bin and libexec directories. > > > -- > Avdi > > Home: http://avdi.org > Developer Blog: http://avdi.org/devblog/ > Twitter: http://twitter.com/avdi > Journal: http://avdi.livejournal.com > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > From avdi at avdi.org Wed Jun 11 12:20:47 2008 From: avdi at avdi.org (Avdi Grimm) Date: Wed Jun 11 12:20:51 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> References: <1977F1A1-EEBC-4AE2-B6C1-E7CD3AB344E6@gmail.com> <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:18 AM, David Reitter wrote: > How about changing the path to match the location of your Aquamacs > application? The path is right, up until the very end. There's no "Aquamacs Emacs" inside "MacOS". -- Avdi Home: http://avdi.org Developer Blog: http://avdi.org/devblog/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/avdi Journal: http://avdi.livejournal.com From avdi at avdi.org Wed Jun 11 12:25:27 2008 From: avdi at avdi.org (Avdi Grimm) Date: Wed Jun 11 12:25:38 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> Message-ID: I just captures this backtrace: (setq result (cons (funcall function tabset) result)) (push (funcall function tabset) result) (lambda (tabset) (push (funcall function tabset) result))(gnus-tmp-article-number) mapatoms((lambda (tabset) (push (funcall function tabset) result)) nil) (let (result) (mapatoms (function ...) tabbar-tabsets) result) tabbar-map-tabsets(tabbar-reformat-tabset) tabbar-reformat-all-tabsets() run-hooks(window-configuration-change-hook) completing-read("Find file: ~/dev/" (("dummy" 0.1)) nil nil nil ido-file-history) I find it interesting that it's messing around with tabbar even though I have tabbar turned off. -- Avdi Home: http://avdi.org Developer Blog: http://avdi.org/devblog/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/avdi Journal: http://avdi.livejournal.com From avdi at avdi.org Wed Jun 11 12:28:07 2008 From: avdi at avdi.org (Avdi Grimm) Date: Wed Jun 11 12:28:10 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> Message-ID: I tried clearing window-configuration-change-hook. Nice and snappy now. -- Avdi Home: http://avdi.org Developer Blog: http://avdi.org/devblog/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/avdi Journal: http://avdi.livejournal.com From david.reitter at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 12:30:39 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Wed Jun 11 12:30:50 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 11 Jun 2008, at 17:25, Avdi Grimm wrote: > I just captures this backtrace: > > (setq result (cons (funcall function tabset) result)) > (push (funcall function tabset) result) > (lambda (tabset) (push (funcall function tabset) > result))(gnus-tmp-article-number) > mapatoms((lambda (tabset) (push (funcall function tabset) result)) > nil) > (let (result) (mapatoms (function ...) tabbar-tabsets) result) > tabbar-map-tabsets(tabbar-reformat-tabset) > tabbar-reformat-all-tabsets() > run-hooks(window-configuration-change-hook) > completing-read("Find file: ~/dev/" (("dummy" 0.1)) nil nil nil > ido-file-history) > > I find it interesting that it's messing around with tabbar even though > I have tabbar turned off. Me too. > I tried clearing window-configuration-change-hook. Nice and snappy > now. That's what I would have suggested next. Thanks for investigating: we'll take it from here. -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What does ls -la give you if you navigate to that path? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2193 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080611/bf56e554/smime.bin From avdi at avdi.org Wed Jun 11 12:38:34 2008 From: avdi at avdi.org (Avdi Grimm) Date: Wed Jun 11 12:38:39 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <3BAB21C4-310B-4BAE-8224-DB444F8E5E85@gmail.com> <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:28 PM, David Reitter wrote: > What does > > ls -la > > give you if you navigate to that path? Weird, it's there now. Spooky. -- Avdi Home: http://avdi.org Developer Blog: http://avdi.org/devblog/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/avdi Journal: http://avdi.livejournal.com From swangdoodles at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 13:19:49 2008 From: swangdoodles at gmail.com (Renzo Been) Date: Wed Jun 11 13:20:01 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Re: Aquamacs Emacs 1.4rc2 References: <38C2549A-97E4-420F-9DB7-798259DDDD2B@gmail.com> Message-ID: David Reitter gmail.com> writes: > > Aquamacs Emacs 1.4 Release Candidate 2 is on our servers for you to > download, check out and tinker with. > Of course we'd like your feedback on aquamacs-bugs aquamacs.org. To > report bugs, please use Help -> Send Bug Report. > > http://aquamacs.org/download.shtml > > (1.4rc2 is a "preview" version: it may contain unresolved issues.) > > What's new? > This is a feature release providing tabs, persistent *scratch* > buffers, full screen editing a redesigned tool-bar with better-looking > icons, much improved LaTeX support, multilingual Aspell support for > spell-checking (hassle-free use of dictionaries), better frame > positioning on dual-screen setups, and, and, and... > > Note: tabs are enabled in the Options menu. De-select "Show Buffers in > New Frames" to open new files in their own tabs. Hi, I have been trying Aquamacs Distribution 1.4rc2 As reported before, it is running quite slow, especially when using my own key-bindings and custom-commands... The full-screen mode is great, and working fine. I tried adding transparency (as that would be very nice with the full-screen mode) by using; (set-alpha 47) But that does not seem to work (it did work under 1.3) I use MAC OS X 10.5.2 1.33GHz iBook PowerPC G4 Ciao, Renzo From lindsay.stirton at manchester.ac.uk Wed Jun 11 14:37:11 2008 From: lindsay.stirton at manchester.ac.uk (Lindsay Stirton) Date: Wed Jun 11 14:37:25 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] emacs and latex on iPhone? In-Reply-To: <9ab34dfc0806110818r5de8d49fn433872a0dbac07df@mail.gmail.com> References: <1213179458.16794.9.camel@ljs-desktop> <9ab34dfc0806110818r5de8d49fn433872a0dbac07df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <48501B57.6030701@manchester.ac.uk> Don't get me wrong, I love emacs. But I don't think you are right when ou say that it comes down simply to whether one does any typing on the iPhone keyboard. Contrary to your (Mark's) assertion that is a kind of all-or-nothing decision, I think there is always a trade-off between the advantages and disadvantages of keyboard versus point-and-click as a method of input, and what is optimal on a full-size keyboard is not necessarily optimal on the iPhone software keyboard, even if both are feasible. That said, if vi has been ported, I think it should be easy to port emacs, if no one has done it already. Apparently there is a jailbroken terminal.app for iPhone. If you care to jailbreak your iPhone you could presumably install emacs and run it in terminal. I don't know how easy it would be to build a gui emacs, but here are instructions to build carbon emacs. http://michaelobrien.info/blog/2007/10/emacs.app-on-mac-os-x-leopard If you don't fancy it, I dare say it is only a matter of time before someone does it. I still think an iphone version of TextMate might be the way to go. Lindsay M A wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 5:17 AM, Lindsay Stirton (Dr) > wrote: > >> Can anyone imagine typing M-x extremely-convoluted-command on the iPhone >> virtual keyboard? I think for that reason emacs on iPhone is a no-no. >> >> >> > > Why not? Typing a convoluted command is no harder than typing anything > else. I think the only question is whether one accepts the premise of > doing any typing at all on the iphone/ipod touch. If so, emacs is no > less a good choice than any other editor (well, there may be questions > about memory and processor requirements, but that's another issue). > Once you install the BSD layer, I would think that emacs should > certainly be possible (vi is already there), but I don't know of any > efforts in this direction. I wouldn't expect any official development > from GNU since the platform is not open, but I would certainly be > happy if someone did it. > > Mark A > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > From david.reitter at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 14:50:41 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Wed Jun 11 15:54:26 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] emacs and latex on iPhone? In-Reply-To: <48501B57.6030701@manchester.ac.uk> References: <1213179458.16794.9.camel@ljs-desktop> <9ab34dfc0806110818r5de8d49fn433872a0dbac07df@mail.gmail.com> <48501B57.6030701@manchester.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1A889863-BD9D-4D7B-A57F-9032E39E08AA@gmail.com> On 11 Jun 2008, at 19:37, Lindsay Stirton wrote: > Don't get me wrong, I love emacs. But I don't think you are right > when ou say that it comes down simply to whether one does any typing > on the iPhone keyboard. Contrary to your (Mark's) assertion that is > a kind of all-or-nothing decision, I think there is always a trade- > off between the advantages and disadvantages of keyboard versus > point-and-click as a method of input, and what is optimal on a full- > size keyboard is not necessarily optimal on the iPhone software > keyboard, even if both are feasible. Compiling can probably be done: people have built Emacs on ARM machines before, e.g., http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/Emacs_and_EmacsWikiMode_on_PDAs My guess is that building Emacs on the iPhone would work (and take a day or so). You can then SSH into your iPhone and use it, or maybe even use a terminal app on the iPhone. > That said, if vi has been ported, I think it should be easy to port > emacs, if no one has done it already. I don't follow your logic. How do vi's dependencies (and general underlying technology) indicate anything about Emacs' dependencies? > I don't know how easy it would be to build a gui emacs, but here are > instructions to build carbon emacs. A brief look at the SDK will tell you that the iPhone provides a derivative of Cocoa (called "Cocoa Touch"), but no Carbon. And it wouldn't make sense, either. The iPhone has a UI that is rather different from anything you do with Carbon (menus, dialogs, etc.!) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2193 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080611/539e5eda/smime.bin From g.evstratov at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 15:30:17 2008 From: g.evstratov at gmail.com (egv) Date: Wed Jun 11 16:24:51 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] emacs and latex on iPhone? In-Reply-To: <9ab34dfc0806110818r5de8d49fn433872a0dbac07df@mail.gmail.com> (M. A.'s message of "Wed\, 11 Jun 2008 10\:18\:10 -0500") References: <1213179458.16794.9.camel@ljs-desktop> <9ab34dfc0806110818r5de8d49fn433872a0dbac07df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: "M A" writes: > Why not? Typing a convoluted command is no harder than typing anything > else. I think the only question is whether one accepts the premise of > doing any typing at all on the iphone/ipod touch. Editing text on iPhone is totally sick in my opinion. I've tried to use console emacs on remote server through Terminal.app on iPhone and I must say to you that it was hell. I do not think that native port of emacs to iPhone will do better, because of the screen size and lack of the functional keys on it's keyboard. When keyboard is on the screen is so small, that it is practically impossible to do anything more than "Hello world" typing. I've also tried to use emacs on Nokia N810 internet tablet, both X and noX versions. It is much more convinient than using it on Iphone, but still there are not enough keys on it's keyboard to handle all chords, so it is also almost completely unusable. Surely, one can rebind all command to more convinient chords (even if they will be longer than default ones) to make it more comfortable, but it can take a lot of time. > If so, emacs is no less a good choice than any other editor (well, there may > be questions about memory and processor requirements, but that's another > issue). There are enough resources to run emacs on iPhone. It runs on n810, which as far as I remenber, has slower proc and the same amount of memory just fine. > Once you install the BSD layer, I would think that emacs should > certainly be possible (vi is already there), but I don't know of any efforts > in this direction. I wouldn't expect any official development from GNU since > the platform is not open, but I would certainly be happy if someone did it. I have toolchain installed, so I can try to cross-compile emacs for iPhone, but I see no sence in doing it. I think that iPhone's keyboard is too crippled to handle something but vi. The lack of function keys makes emacs unusable. Nevertheless I can try if you want me to. --- Gennady. From g.evstratov at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 15:34:04 2008 From: g.evstratov at gmail.com (egv) Date: Wed Jun 11 16:34:34 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Re: Aquamacs Emacs 1.4rc2 In-Reply-To: (Renzo Been's message of "Wed\, 11 Jun 2008 17\:19\:49 +0000 \(UTC\)") References: <38C2549A-97E4-420F-9DB7-798259DDDD2B@gmail.com> Message-ID: Renzo Been writes: > I tried adding transparency (as that would be very nice with the full-screen > mode) by using; > (set-alpha 47) > But that does not seem to work (it did work under 1.3) > (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(alpha . (80 70))) where 80 is alpha of the active frame, and 70 of the inactive one do just fine for me. -- Gennady. From nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 17:13:35 2008 From: nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com (Nathaniel Cunningham) Date: Wed Jun 11 17:13:40 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20ecf6c70806111413r15ecd663s369997e388343c91@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Avdi Grimm wrote: > I tried clearing window-configuration-change-hook. Nice and snappy now. I think you've hit the nail on the head, here, and I've made the relevant changes to tabbar. Before a new nightly is built, I would appreciate one more test from anyone who's experienced this slowdown: try running with Options-->Show Tabs checked. That should eliminate the slowdown, if indeed the problem was running tabbar-related functions when Show Tabs was turned off. --Nathaniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080611/03b694e4/attachment.html From trepca at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 17:47:24 2008 From: trepca at gmail.com (Sebastjan Trepca) Date: Wed Jun 11 17:47:30 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: <20ecf6c70806111413r15ecd663s369997e388343c91@mail.gmail.com> References: <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> <20ecf6c70806111413r15ecd663s369997e388343c91@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yep, that was it for me too. Thanks! Sebastjan On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:13 PM, Nathaniel Cunningham wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Avdi Grimm wrote: >> >> I tried clearing window-configuration-change-hook. Nice and snappy now. > > I think you've hit the nail on the head, here, and I've made the relevant > changes to tabbar. > > Before a new nightly is built, I would appreciate one more test from anyone > who's experienced this slowdown: try running with Options-->Show Tabs > checked. That should eliminate the slowdown, if indeed the problem was > running tabbar-related functions when Show Tabs was turned off. > > --Nathaniel > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > > From avdi at avdi.org Wed Jun 11 18:03:48 2008 From: avdi at avdi.org (Avdi Grimm) Date: Wed Jun 11 18:03:53 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> <20ecf6c70806111413r15ecd663s369997e388343c91@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Note: the fix I currently have in my .emacs is: (remove-hook 'window-configuration-change-hook ' tabbar-reformat-all-tabsets) That way I'm only removing the offending handler, and not any of the other handlers (there are a few on my system). -- Avdi From j.m.figueroa at ed.ac.uk Wed Jun 11 18:04:39 2008 From: j.m.figueroa at ed.ac.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Miguel_Figueroa-O'Farrill?=) Date: Wed Jun 11 18:04:45 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: <20ecf6c70806111413r15ecd663s369997e388343c91@mail.gmail.com> References: <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> <20ecf6c70806111413r15ecd663s369997e388343c91@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <801D9355-2B2B-45C3-9D9D-85363E3365B0@ed.ac.uk> On 11 Jun 2008, at 22:13, Nathaniel Cunningham wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Avdi Grimm wrote: > I tried clearing window-configuration-change-hook. Nice and snappy > now. > > I think you've hit the nail on the head, here, and I've made the > relevant changes to tabbar. > > Before a new nightly is built, I would appreciate one more test > from anyone who's experienced this slowdown: try running with > Options-->Show Tabs checked. That should eliminate the slowdown, > if indeed the problem was running tabbar-related functions when > Show Tabs was turned off. Is there (or will there be after the nightly build) a way to disable tabbar-mode without being penalised in performance? I ask because tabbar-mode really destroys my vm frames set-up. Cheers, José -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From david.reitter at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 18:17:55 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Wed Jun 11 18:18:01 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> <20ecf6c70806111413r15ecd663s369997e388343c91@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 11 Jun 2008, at 22:47, Sebastjan Trepca wrote: > Yep, that was it for me too. Thanks! .. and thanks to you for reporting a bug that seems to have annoyed a number of people, and to Avdi for finding the crucial interaction with the tabbar. The nightly build for Intel that is available from our server now [these builds aren't really just "nightly"] contains an initial fix by Nathaniel for the problem. I expect you'll be fine with that (and no further workarounds as posted here). -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2193 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080611/ec6a15d6/smime.bin From david.reitter at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 18:31:52 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Wed Jun 11 18:32:02 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] bug fixed: Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance Message-ID: <225AC8AC-BE31-4E33-B2F6-95A466B59833@gmail.com> Nathaniel, The real reason for this bug lies in tabbar-map-tabsets, which does this: (lambda (,function) "Apply FUNCTION to each tab set, and make a list of the results. The result is a list just as long as the number of existing tab sets." (let (,result) (mapatoms #'(lambda (,tabset) (push (funcall ,function ,tabset) ,result)) tabbar-tabsets) ,result)) `mapatoms' is called, which is executed for each entry in `tabbar-tabsets'. Idiotically, mapatoms' second argument (the list of elements it applies the function to) defaults to `obarray', which is a list of many many symbols (around 20,000). When tabbar-mode is off, tabbar-tabsets is empty, i.e. nil. Elisp does not distinguish an empty for an undefined argument to a function, hence `obarray' is used. That's why you're getting the long delay when calling tabbar-reformat-all-tabsets. I've checked in the simply change below. cc'ing the list, FYI. - D -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! *** tabbar.el 13 May 2008 08:55:33 +0100 1.3 --- tabbar.el 11 Jun 2008 23:26:34 +0100 *************** *** 391,400 **** "Apply FUNCTION to each tab set, and make a list of the results. The result is a list just as long as the number of existing tab sets." (let (,result) ! (mapatoms ! #'(lambda (,tabset) ! (push (funcall ,function ,tabset) ,result)) ! tabbar-tabsets) ,result))))) (defun tabbar-make-tabset (name &rest objects) --- 391,401 ---- "Apply FUNCTION to each tab set, and make a list of the results. The result is a list just as long as the number of existing tab sets." (let (,result) ! (if tabbar-tabsets ! (mapatoms ! #'(lambda (,tabset) ! (push (funcall ,function ,tabset) ,result)) ! tabbar-tabsets)) ,result))))) (defun tabbar-make-tabset (name &rest objects) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Nice and snappy > now. > > I think you've hit the nail on the head, here, and I've made the > relevant changes to tabbar. > > Before a new nightly is built, I would appreciate one more test > from anyone who's experienced this slowdown: try running with > Options-->Show Tabs checked. That should eliminate the slowdown, > if indeed the problem was running tabbar-related functions when > Show Tabs was turned off. I have done this now. I think 1.4rc2 is still somewhat sluggish by comparison with 1.3, but it could be the wrong impression. One thing I've noticed is that there seems to be a problem with paths for *TeX executables. For instance, I tried compiling a LaTeX file and I got this error: Running `LaTeX' on `Metric3Lie' with ``pdflatex - interaction=nonstopmode "\input" Metric3Lie.tex'' /bin/sh: line 1: pdflatex: command not found LaTeX exited abnormally with code 127 at Wed Jun 11 22:26:19 Has there been any change in the way Aquamacs reads the paths from 1.3 to 1.4? Cheers, José -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. From trepca at gmail.com Wed Jun 11 18:41:14 2008 From: trepca at gmail.com (Sebastjan Trepca) Date: Wed Jun 11 18:41:19 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: <85660276-B5B3-4245-A8A4-8B1A42FA7FB5@ed.ac.uk> References: <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> <20ecf6c70806111413r15ecd663s369997e388343c91@mail.gmail.com> <85660276-B5B3-4245-A8A4-8B1A42FA7FB5@ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Wow, the new nightly build is blazing fast for me now, both for browsing and opening files, which was also a small problem before. Sebastjan On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:29 PM, José Miguel Figueroa-O'Farrill wrote: > > On 11 Jun 2008, at 22:13, Nathaniel Cunningham wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Avdi Grimm wrote: >> I tried clearing window-configuration-change-hook. Nice and snappy now. >> >> I think you've hit the nail on the head, here, and I've made the relevant >> changes to tabbar. >> >> Before a new nightly is built, I would appreciate one more test from >> anyone who's experienced this slowdown: try running with Options-->Show Tabs >> checked. That should eliminate the slowdown, if indeed the problem was >> running tabbar-related functions when Show Tabs was turned off. > > I have done this now. I think 1.4rc2 is still somewhat sluggish by > comparison with 1.3, but it could be the wrong impression. One thing I've > noticed is that there seems to be a problem with paths for *TeX executables. > For instance, I tried compiling a LaTeX file and I got this error: > > Running `LaTeX' on `Metric3Lie' with ``pdflatex -interaction=nonstopmode > "\input" Metric3Lie.tex'' > /bin/sh: line 1: pdflatex: command not found > > LaTeX exited abnormally with code 127 at Wed Jun 11 22:26:19 > > Has there been any change in the way Aquamacs reads the paths from 1.3 to > 1.4? > > Cheers, José > > > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > From avdi at avdi.org Wed Jun 11 18:41:51 2008 From: avdi at avdi.org (Avdi Grimm) Date: Wed Jun 11 18:42:02 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: References: <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> <20ecf6c70806111413r15ecd663s369997e388343c91@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 6:17 PM, David Reitter wrote: > On 11 Jun 2008, at 22:47, Sebastjan Trepca wrote: > >> Yep, that was it for me too. Thanks! > > .. and thanks to you for reporting a bug that seems to have annoyed a number > of people, and to Avdi for finding the crucial interaction with the tabbar. Thanks for responding so promptly and helpfully. I just made a donation, I'm so pleased! -- Avdi Home: http://avdi.org Developer Blog: http://avdi.org/devblog/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/avdi Journal: http://avdi.livejournal.com From tsd at tsdye.com Wed Jun 11 18:44:09 2008 From: tsd at tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) Date: Wed Jun 11 19:10:58 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: <85660276-B5B3-4245-A8A4-8B1A42FA7FB5@ed.ac.uk> References: <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> <20ecf6c70806111413r15ecd663s369997e388343c91@mail.gmail.com> <85660276-B5B3-4245-A8A4-8B1A42FA7FB5@ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <497A105D-9BDE-4E51-B058-FCCAF06D03EE@tsdye.com> Aloha all, I had this one, too, but only once. It has worked correctly several hundred times for me. It happened to me after I had just started up Aquamacs. If I remember correctly, I closed down, started again and all was fine. Tom On Jun 11, 2008, at 11:29 AM, José Miguel Figueroa-O'Farrill wrote: > > On 11 Jun 2008, at 22:13, Nathaniel Cunningham wrote: > >> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Avdi Grimm wrote: >> I tried clearing window-configuration-change-hook. Nice and snappy >> now. >> >> I think you've hit the nail on the head, here, and I've made the >> relevant changes to tabbar. >> >> Before a new nightly is built, I would appreciate one more test >> from anyone who's experienced this slowdown: try running with >> Options-->Show Tabs checked. That should eliminate the slowdown, >> if indeed the problem was running tabbar-related functions when >> Show Tabs was turned off. > > I have done this now. I think 1.4rc2 is still somewhat sluggish by > comparison with 1.3, but it could be the wrong impression. One > thing I've noticed is that there seems to be a problem with paths > for *TeX executables. For instance, I tried compiling a LaTeX file > and I got this error: > > Running `LaTeX' on `Metric3Lie' with ``pdflatex - > interaction=nonstopmode "\input" Metric3Lie.tex'' > /bin/sh: line 1: pdflatex: command not found > > LaTeX exited abnormally with code 127 at Wed Jun 11 22:26:19 > > Has there been any change in the way Aquamacs reads the paths from > 1.3 to 1.4? > > Cheers, José > > > > -- > The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in > Scotland, with registration number SC005336. > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx From david.reitter at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 05:07:21 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Thu Jun 12 05:34:57 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 RC2 performance In-Reply-To: <85660276-B5B3-4245-A8A4-8B1A42FA7FB5@ed.ac.uk> References: <33BC7A63-EC9F-4CA0-8F45-4A88A79A4330@gmail.com> <66EBD9C6-8AAF-4D98-A4A9-79CB8432A03C@gmail.com> <20ecf6c70806111413r15ecd663s369997e388343c91@mail.gmail.com> <85660276-B5B3-4245-A8A4-8B1A42FA7FB5@ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 11 Jun 2008, at 22:29, José Miguel Figueroa-O'Farrill wrote: > > Running `LaTeX' on `Metric3Lie' with ``pdflatex - > interaction=nonstopmode "\input" Metric3Lie.tex'' > /bin/sh: line 1: pdflatex: command not found > > LaTeX exited abnormally with code 127 at Wed Jun 11 22:26:19 > > Has there been any change in the way Aquamacs reads the paths from > 1.3 to 1.4? We have introduced a (very generous) time-out to counter a bug in Apple's software. As for LaTeX, we have upgraded to a new version of AUCTeX. -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2193 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080612/65b41a69/smime.bin From markoilcan at gmail.com Thu Jun 12 15:55:24 2008 From: markoilcan at gmail.com (M A) Date: Thu Jun 12 16:24:20 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] emacs and latex on iPhone? In-Reply-To: References: <1213179458.16794.9.camel@ljs-desktop> <9ab34dfc0806110818r5de8d49fn433872a0dbac07df@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9ab34dfc0806121255n64c52419v773137d291d59c76@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 2:30 PM, egv wrote: > "M A" writes: > >> Why not? Typing a convoluted command is no harder than typing anything >> else. I think the only question is whether one accepts the premise of >> doing any typing at all on the iphone/ipod touch. > > Editing text on iPhone is totally sick in my opinion. > > I've tried to use console emacs on remote server through Terminal.app on iPhone > and I must say to you that it was hell. I do not think that native port of emacs > to iPhone will do better, because of the screen size and lack of the functional > keys on it's keyboard. When keyboard is on the screen is so small, that it is > practically impossible to do anything more than "Hello world" typing. I do this also using using MobileTerminal on my ipod Touch. In fact, this is now my primary means of reading and writing my email when I'm on the road (if I'm in a wifi location I ssh from my ipod to my work machine where I use mutt and emacs to compose email). Typing this way is sufficiently onerous that I would not dream of doing any serious coding or latex writing, for instance, using an iphone, but this is true for any text editor. My point is simply that I think emacs is as good an option as any. I agree that a gui emacs would be more convenient simply because it would be easier to, say, tap on the screen at the right location to save your file than it is to (swipe in SE direction)-x (swipe in SE direction)-s (but not really all that much). In fact, different forms of finger swipes can be mapped to all kinds of key chords to make things easier. I think it would be pretty cool to have emacs on my ipod touch, but what I would most like would be to have it in combination with automatic syncing of arbitrary files on my desktop. That would really let me deal with my to-do's in a convenient way! Mark A From baroni at sissa.it Fri Jun 13 11:40:07 2008 From: baroni at sissa.it (Stefano Baroni) Date: Fri Jun 13 12:13:31 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] auctex customization in aquamacs. Message-ID: <55647819-AC84-41B8-89D6-5CB42D10A751@sissa.it> Hi there! Could anybody point me to the relevant doc where I could find info on how to customize the "latex command" of the auctex group in aquamacs? I would like to use pstricks which is not available with dflatex, so I would like to define a command that produces a pdf file from latex+dvips+ps2pdf. I tried to get inspiration from some default values for other commands, but I could figure out the meaning of the "%p", "%r", and "%s" argments that I have found for other commands, nor was I able to figre out how to associate a single command to a suite of several shell commands. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks - SB --- Stefano Baroni - SISSA & DEMOCRITOS National Simulation Center - Trieste [+39] 040 3787 406 (tel) -528 (fax) / stefanobaroni (skype) La morale est une logique de l'action comme la logique est une morale de la pensée - Jean Piaget Please, if possible, don't send me MS Word or PowerPoint attachments Why? See: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080613/2fd7dbda/attachment.html From fusion at mx6.tiki.ne.jp Fri Jun 13 19:50:11 2008 From: fusion at mx6.tiki.ne.jp (Jean-Christophe Helary) Date: Fri Jun 13 19:50:17 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] diary mode... Message-ID: I'm looking for a way to insert an event repeated each week of a specific month. I thought about &%%(diary-float 9 4 *), &%%(diary-float 9 4 '(1 2 3 4)) but that does not work. Any idea ? Jean-Christophe Helary ------------------------------------ http://mac4translators.blogspot.com/ From trepca at gmail.com Sat Jun 14 09:28:59 2008 From: trepca at gmail.com (Sebastjan Trepca) Date: Sat Jun 14 09:29:03 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Shortcuts disappeared on org-mode Message-ID: Hey, I have this annoying problem with my new Aquamacs(nightly build) and org-mode. The keys for editing structure disappeared. Shortcuts are on keys M- and M-. If I use Aquamacs 1.3 on the same configuration it works with no problems. (Btw, could it be possible to also list all packages Aquamacs includes in release notes and which one was updated/added/removed. That package list in Features section of the homepage is quite obsolete.) Thanks, Sebastjan From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sun Jun 15 14:51:45 2008 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun Jun 15 14:51:53 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] diary mode... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 14.06.2008 um 01:50 schrieb Jean-Christophe Helary: > I'm looking for a way to insert an event repeated each week of a > specific month. > > I thought about &%%(diary-float 9 4 *), &%%(diary-float 9 4 '(1 2 3 > 4)) but that does not work. There was a thread on a similiar topic earlier this spring: http:// lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2008-04/msg00598.html It looks as if you need to enter as many single lines as the month has events ... Anyway, I am going to report this as a bug in GNU Emacs 23.0.60. Maybe it's useful when you report it too from your version. -- Greetings Pete Don't force it; get a larger hammer. ? Anthony's Law of Force From fusion at mx6.tiki.ne.jp Sun Jun 15 20:35:29 2008 From: fusion at mx6.tiki.ne.jp (Jean-Christophe Helary) Date: Sun Jun 15 20:35:37 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] diary mode... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thank you Peter for checking. The manual says: > &%%(diary-float 11 4 -1) American Thanksgiving > The 11 specifies November (the eleventh month), the 4 specifies > Thursday (the fourth day of the week, where Sunday is numbered > zero), and the ?1 specifies ?last? (1 would mean ?first,? 2 > would mean ?second,? ?2 would mean ?second-to-last,? and so > on). The month can be a single month or a list of months. Thus you > could change the 11 above to `'(1 2 3)' and have the entry apply to > the last Thursday of January, February, and March. If the month is > t, the entry applies to all months of the year. > So it really means that only the month variable can accept lists as value. Hence, my problem is not realy a bug but rather a feature request, I suppose: have days of week and weeks available as lists (or regexp) too... Don't you think so ? Jean-Christophe Helary ------------------------------------ http://mac4translators.blogspot.com/ From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon Jun 16 04:05:53 2008 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon Jun 16 04:05:59 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] diary mode... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7C1BCF01-6313-4C18-87EC-AD6164320B48@Web.DE> Am 16.06.2008 um 02:35 schrieb Jean-Christophe Helary: > Hence, my problem is not realy a bug but rather a feature request, > I suppose: have days of week and weeks available as lists (or > regexp) too... > > Don't you think so ? Yes! Here is the answer I received from Glenn Morris, the maintainer of calendar and diary: The documentation says the MONTH parameter can be a list or t. It does not say that any of the other parameters can be. You could use eg: %%(and (= (calendar-day-of-week date) 4) (= (calendar-extract-month date) 6)) Thursday in June -- Greetings Pete The best way to accelerate a PC is 9.8 m/s2 From arsptr at internode.on.net Tue Jun 17 07:18:54 2008 From: arsptr at internode.on.net (Alastair Rankine) Date: Tue Jun 17 07:34:09 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Carbon Emacs INFOPATH Message-ID: Hi, So apparently setting Info-default-directory-list doesn't seem do anything in Carbon Emacs (Spring 2008). According to the doco, the environment variable INFOPATH takes precendence, if it is set. From what I can see, INFOPATH is being set somewhere in Emacs.app, because (getenv "INFOPATH") returns the following: "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/info:/Applications/ Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/extra/info" Pretty sure I'm not setting this myself manually. Now I think that setting this environment variable the wrong thing to do because it is likely to overwrite any value for INFOPATH that I had set (which is admittedly unlikely, given that it would involve MacOSEnvironment.plist - or whatever it's called - shennanigans). But more importantly I can't do any twiddling of info directory paths using the officially-supported Info-default-directory-list variable. So a good solution would be to just not set INFOPATH at all. As a compromise it might be OK to simply include a trailing colon on INFOPATH - according to the doco, this would concatenate the Info- default-directory-list when searching for info files. Please correct me if I've misunderstood any of this. From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue Jun 17 09:53:08 2008 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue Jun 17 09:53:16 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Carbon Emacs INFOPATH In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 17.06.2008 um 13:18 schrieb Alastair Rankine: > From what I can see, INFOPATH is being set somewhere in Emacs.app, > because (getenv "INFOPATH") returns the following: > > "/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/info:/Applications/ > Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/extra/info" > > Pretty sure I'm not setting this myself manually. In some shell (in Terminal, for example) you can invoke env or env | grep INFOPATH to be sure. For me it has worked very well to set INFOPATH for all my Emacsen. So *my* recommendation is to set it, either in ~/.MacOSX/ environment.plist, or for the login shell, or just in some init file. All Emacsen add the info files they bring to the system at the end of INFOPATH. -- Greetings Pete You can learn many things from children. How much patience you have, for instance. ? Franklin P. Jones From d.stegmueller at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 10:35:48 2008 From: d.stegmueller at gmail.com (Daniel Stegmueller) Date: Tue Jun 17 11:03:57 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4rc3 available? Message-ID: <58084E45-507D-4B86-92EB-F39017E6208D@gmail.com> Dear list (and Aquamacs team), is it still possible to download release candidate 3 somewhere? All the "usual suspects" link to 1.4RC4 which does not work here... Best wishes, Daniel From david.reitter at gmail.com Tue Jun 17 11:13:06 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Tue Jun 17 11:37:22 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4rc3 available? In-Reply-To: <58084E45-507D-4B86-92EB-F39017E6208D@gmail.com> References: <58084E45-507D-4B86-92EB-F39017E6208D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <870484DF-B49B-45ED-BB1D-DBEBF8E53C5A@gmail.com> On 17 Jun 2008, at 15:35, Daniel Stegmueller wrote: > is it still possible to download release candidate 3 somewhere? > All the "usual suspects" link to 1.4RC4 which does not work here... Please file a bug report describing what does not work, how it fails, and what machine you have. Thanks - David -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This used to work very well - so, full of hope, we re-configured Aquamacs to our needs using the Options Menu but after a "Save Options" in 1.4rc3 and a restart, Aquamacs has now forgotten (again) about the font size, the toolbar and the frame position (it did remember about "Show Tabs", the Option Key setting and Column Numbers). Could this be a problem with our .emacs-File? Many thanks in advance, Stefan -- Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys. Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany Tel.: +49-221-4726-213 FAX +49-221-4726-298 Tel.: +49-221-478-5713 Mobile: 0160-93874279 Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de http://www.nf.mpg.de From zaccone at bucknell.edu Wed Jun 18 09:09:02 2008 From: zaccone at bucknell.edu (Rick Zaccone) Date: Wed Jun 18 09:46:55 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs Emacs 1.4rc4 Problem Message-ID: <1AACCF07-9757-4892-99B5-D982AAF965E9@bucknell.edu> I'm having problems with Aquamacs Emacs 1.4rc4. When I start it up I get the following error message. while: Symbol's function definition is void: incf Apparently this prevents it from seeing my customizations because it doesn't recognize the option key as meta. Rick From nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 10:16:55 2008 From: nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com (Nathaniel Cunningham) Date: Wed Jun 18 10:16:59 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs Emacs 1.4rc4 Problem In-Reply-To: <1AACCF07-9757-4892-99B5-D982AAF965E9@bucknell.edu> References: <1AACCF07-9757-4892-99B5-D982AAF965E9@bucknell.edu> Message-ID: <20ecf6c70806180716k51b93dc6n9e626d3fcfd156d5@mail.gmail.com> Please download Aquamacs 1.4rc5 at http://aquamacs.org/download.shtml . --Nathaniel On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 7:09 AM, Rick Zaccone wrote: > I'm having problems with Aquamacs Emacs 1.4rc4. When I start it up I get > the following error message. > > while: Symbol's function definition is void: incf > > Apparently this prevents it from seeing my customizations because it > doesn't recognize the option key as meta. > > Rick > > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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When I start it up > I get the following error message. > > while: Symbol's function definition is void: incf > > Apparently this prevents it from seeing my customizations because it > doesn't recognize the option key as meta. > > Rick > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx Daniel Stegmueller Landgrafenstr. 14 60486 Frankfurt a.M. 069/24140381 d.stegmueller@gmail.com From vollmar at nf.mpg.de Wed Jun 18 11:17:39 2008 From: vollmar at nf.mpg.de (Stefan Vollmar) Date: Wed Jun 18 11:17:44 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4rc3: saving options In-Reply-To: <168B41BB-538C-4541-BB65-C688A49E7A84@nf.mpg.de> References: <58084E45-507D-4B86-92EB-F39017E6208D@gmail.com> <870484DF-B49B-45ED-BB1D-DBEBF8E53C5A@gmail.com> <168B41BB-538C-4541-BB65-C688A49E7A84@nf.mpg.de> Message-ID: <6770816D-05D1-476E-A36B-2C7087970A4F@nf.mpg.de> Hello, On 17.06.2008, at 21:15, Stefan Vollmar wrote: > after changing from Aquamacs 1.4rc1 to 1.4rc3 one of our Macs lost > the previous customization: we want frames spanning the full screen > height, no toolbar at all (sorry about the high quality icons), and > a slightly larger font size everywhere. This used to work very well > - so, full of hope, we re-configured Aquamacs to our needs using the > Options Menu but after a "Save Options" in 1.4rc3 and a restart, > Aquamacs has now forgotten (again) about the font size, the toolbar > and the frame position (it did remember about "Show Tabs", the > Option Key setting and Column Numbers). Could this be a problem with > our .emacs-File? this problem has been solved: for some reason, Aquamacs-Styles mode was disabled. When trying a Options:Save Options, Aquamacs actually warned that Aquamacs-Styles mode was off and not all settings would be saved - it obviously pays to read warnings... We have used Options:Customize Emacs to switch this mode on: saving font preferences and frame positions now works beautifully in Aquamacs 1.4rc5. Regards, Stefan -- Dr. Stefan Vollmar, Dipl.-Phys. Max-Planck-Institut für neurologische Forschung Gleuelerstr. 50, 50931 Köln, Germany Tel.: +49-221-4726-213 FAX +49-221-4726-298 Tel.: +49-221-478-5713 Mobile: 0160-93874279 Email: vollmar@nf.mpg.de http://www.nf.mpg.de From david.reitter at gmail.com Wed Jun 18 12:00:23 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Wed Jun 18 13:01:00 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4rc3: saving options In-Reply-To: <6770816D-05D1-476E-A36B-2C7087970A4F@nf.mpg.de> References: <58084E45-507D-4B86-92EB-F39017E6208D@gmail.com> <870484DF-B49B-45ED-BB1D-DBEBF8E53C5A@gmail.com> <168B41BB-538C-4541-BB65-C688A49E7A84@nf.mpg.de> <6770816D-05D1-476E-A36B-2C7087970A4F@nf.mpg.de> Message-ID: <45E54277-1581-48B7-A37D-B9AD3B7E3DB0@gmail.com> On 18 Jun 2008, at 16:17, Stefan Vollmar wrote: > > this problem has been solved: for some reason, Aquamacs-Styles mode > was disabled. When trying a Options:Save Options, Aquamacs actually > warned that Aquamacs-Styles mode was off and not all settings would > be saved - it obviously pays to read warnings... We have used > Options:Customize Emacs to switch this mode on: saving font > preferences and frame positions now works beautifully in Aquamacs > 1.4rc5. Yes, we've changed the default for this. Chances are that we'll be able to re-enable the function by default in 1.5, but there is more work to be done for this can happen. - David -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Hard to tell what causes this, but I would recommend you upgrade to 1.4rc5 or, tomorrow, to 1.4, before we investigate further. -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2193 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080618/a02c76ee/smime.bin From ogus at Math.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 18 15:11:22 2008 From: ogus at Math.Berkeley.EDU (Arthur Ogus) Date: Wed Jun 18 15:11:41 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Re: Emacs crashes In-Reply-To: <698BA963-5459-41CA-8A22-DA0352BA9675@gmail.com> References: <1BE9B6C4-CFCB-463D-B5FE-F1E4E1D8A0CC@gmail.com> <702E47D8-2C9E-47FF-8DC5-58E20CC0F955@gmail.com> <2E5F4673-829E-4255-8B25-FC5C1B5D6196@math.berkeley.edu> <698BA963-5459-41CA-8A22-DA0352BA9675@gmail.com> Message-ID: I'll wait till tomorrow. I've been reading about too many problems with the release candidates. On Jun 18, 2008, at 12:04 PM, David Reitter wrote: > On 18 Jun 2008, at 19:55, Arthur Ogus wrote: > >> I'm running Aquamacs emacs 1.3 on a Leopard PPC, and getting very >> frequent >> application crashes. I have no idea what is triggering them, but >> it is really >> unsatisfactory behavior. > > Hard to tell what causes this, but I would recommend you upgrade to > 1.4rc5 or, tomorrow, to 1.4, before we investigate further. > > > -- > http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X > http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor > and support the Aquamacs Project! > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx From ogus at Math.Berkeley.EDU Wed Jun 18 14:55:56 2008 From: ogus at Math.Berkeley.EDU (Arthur Ogus) Date: Wed Jun 18 15:36:32 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Emacs crashes In-Reply-To: <702E47D8-2C9E-47FF-8DC5-58E20CC0F955@gmail.com> References: <1BE9B6C4-CFCB-463D-B5FE-F1E4E1D8A0CC@gmail.com> <702E47D8-2C9E-47FF-8DC5-58E20CC0F955@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2E5F4673-829E-4255-8B25-FC5C1B5D6196@math.berkeley.edu> I'm running Aquamacs emacs 1.3 on a Leopard PPC, and getting very frequent application crashes. I have no idea what is triggering them, but it is really unsatisfactory behavior. Here is a crash report: Process: Aquamacs Emacs [25428] Path: /Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/ Aquamacs Emacs Identifier: org.gnu.AquamacsEmacs Version: Aquamacs 1.3, GNU Emacs 22 (1.2a) Code Type: PPC (Native) Parent Process: launchd [123] Date/Time: 2008-06-18 11:51:45.616 -0700 OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5.3 (9D34) Report Version: 6 Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT) Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000 Crashed Thread: 1 Thread 0: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910b1344 sigprocmask + 12 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x91182294 abort + 52 2 org.gnu.AquamacsEmacs 0x000d3368 Fcons + 308 (alloc.c:2766) 3 org.gnu.AquamacsEmacs 0x0011e3b0 Fdelete_process + 80 (process.c:811) 4 org.gnu.AquamacsEmacs 0x00126414 kill_buffer_processes + 156 (process.c:6474) 5 org.gnu.AquamacsEmacs 0x0007e6a4 shut_down_emacs + 208 (emacs.c:2118) 6 org.gnu.AquamacsEmacs 0x0007ce8c fatal_error_signal + 216 (emacs.c:381) 7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910db6a0 _sigtramp + 64 Thread 1 Crashed: 0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9116bfa4 __semwait_signal_nocancel + 8 1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9116ba70 nanosleep$NOCANCEL $UNIX2003 + 176 2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9115cc08 usleep$NOCANCEL$UNIX2003 + 68 3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x911822bc abort + 92 4 org.gnu.AquamacsEmacs 0x0014e678 XTread_socket + 4184 (macterm.c:11687) 5 org.gnu.AquamacsEmacs 0x00088444 read_avail_input + 156 (keyboard.c:6874) 6 org.gnu.AquamacsEmacs 0x0012baf0 alarm_signal_handler + 212 (atimer.c:397) 7 libSystem.B.dylib 0x910db6a0 _sigtramp + 64 Thread 1 crashed with PPC Thread State 32: srr0: 0x9116bfa4 srr1: 0x0000f030 dar: 0x8fe312d8 dsisr: 0x0a000000 r0: 0x000001a7 r1: 0xf000e130 r2: 0xa01f77ac r3: 0x0000003c r4: 0x00000000 r5: 0x00000001 r6: 0x00000001 r7: 0x00000000 r8: 0x00989680 r9: 0x00989680 r10: 0x910a6774 r11: 0xa01fb760 r12: 0x9116b9c0 r13: 0xa02d56a0 r14: 0xa02d56a0 r15: 0x0038d628 r16: 0x0038d628 r17: 0x0038d628 r18: 0x003bb6b0 r19: 0x00000000 r20: 0x008c2f50 r21: 0xf000e520 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x0038ba2c r24: 0x000f4240 r25: 0x003bb770 r26: 0x003bb678 r27: 0x00000000 r28: 0x003be754 r29: 0xf000e1c8 r30: 0x00000000 r31: 0x9116b9d4 cr: 0x44002068 xer: 0x00000000 lr: 0x9116ba74 ctr: 0x9116b9c0 vrsave: 0x00000000 Binary Images: 0x1000 - 0x18bfa7 +org.gnu.AquamacsEmacs Aquamacs 1.3, GNU Emacs 22 (1.2a) /Applications/Aquamacs Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/ Aquamacs Emacs 0x6c3000 - 0x6eefc7 libncurses.5.dylib ??? 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(???) <0d0a3107d26786c3708e6a511d5acec9> /System/Library/Frameworks/ ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageIO.framework/ Versions/A/Resources/libTIFF.dylib 0xfffec000 - 0xfffeffff libobjc.A.dylib ??? (???) /usr/lib/ libobjc.A.dylib 0xffff8000 - 0xffff9703 libSystem.B.dylib ??? (???) /usr/lib/ libSystem.B.dylib From david.reitter at gmail.com Thu Jun 19 06:56:06 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Thu Jun 19 08:33:37 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Announcing Aquamacs Emacs 1.4 Message-ID: Aquamacs Emacs 1.4 released The Aquamacs Project is proud to announce the release of Aquamacs Emacs 1.4, the leading Mac-friendly variant of the widely-used editor Emacs. It is a versatile, fast and mature editor for source code, web pages, typesetting documents and all other forms of text. Emacs is a text editor of legendary flexibility and has made millions of programmers and writers very productive. Numerous packages allow users to extend its functionality. Aquamacs Emacs 1.4 includes many new features, among them the ability to group documents in "tabs". It is available for download at: http://aquamacs.org See also a full-length press release at http://aquamacs.org/press-release-1.4.shtml -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Ista From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Thu Jun 19 19:00:48 2008 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Thu Jun 19 19:00:55 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] reftex-cite-format with apacite In-Reply-To: <377ED439-3E28-4E8B-AFFF-2011CE404E1D@gmail.com> References: <377ED439-3E28-4E8B-AFFF-2011CE404E1D@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C863205-55A3-4EF6-9F73-59E00F6AE08C@Web.DE> Am 19.06.2008 um 23:49 schrieb Ista Zahn: > Can someone point me in the right direction? AUCTeX? With RefTeX enabled? I think Aquamacs Emacs comes without the AUCTeX manual. Here is some more information: http://www.gnu.org/ software/auctex/reftex.html, http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/, http://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/auctex/11.85-extra/. -- Greetings Pete Well done is better than well said. ? Benjamin Franklin From tbray at textuality.com Thu Jun 19 19:13:22 2008 From: tbray at textuality.com (Tim Bray) Date: Thu Jun 19 19:38:00 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aqua 1.4 buglet? aquamacs-backward-kill-word Message-ID: <517bf110806191613r2253c69fw13eef0ab63bba326@mail.gmail.com> Command-backspace is bound to this, and when I hit it and the mark isn't set, I get "The mark is not set now, so there is no region". Ordinary backward-kill-word doesn't seem to have this problem. Easy workaround, just hit set-mark-command. -T From polking at rice.edu Thu Jun 19 19:28:06 2008 From: polking at rice.edu (John C Polking) Date: Thu Jun 19 19:48:07 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Two buffers open with one file Message-ID: <485AEB86.2060303@rice.edu> I have been using emacs for about thirty years, first on UNIX, then on a PC, and for the past year with Aquamacs on the Mac. Aquamacs is clearly the best. However, there is one feature that I miss. At least I have not been able to figure out how to set it up. On UNIX or PC I was able to open two emacs buffers accessing the same file. This made copying and pasting very easy. How do I do this using Aquamacs? If it is impossible, this would be a good feature to add. -- John C. Polking (713) 348-4841 (Office) Department of Mathematics (713) 348-4829 (Dept of Math) Rice University (713) 348-5231 (FAX) PO Box 1892 polking@rice.edu Houston, TX 77251 http://math.rice.edu/~polking From tbray at textuality.com Thu Jun 19 19:58:09 2008 From: tbray at textuality.com (Tim Bray) Date: Thu Jun 19 19:58:14 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Request function names for 1.4 stuff? Message-ID: <517bf110806191658q2e3cb903pa57a7a263ddcf692@mail.gmail.com> First, 1.4 seems great so far, Thank You! Second, I have this in my .emacs: (setq mac-command-modifier 'meta) Because I have a long history of useful things bound to meta-this and meta-that. Which means that I can't get at some of your useful new functions without poking around to figure out the function names. E.g. aquamacs-toggle-full-frame is what you by default bind to shift-command-enter. Having a little trouble with the tabbar keybindings. If the release notes included the function names, this would be easier. -T From tbray at textuality.com Thu Jun 19 19:53:28 2008 From: tbray at textuality.com (Tim Bray) Date: Thu Jun 19 19:59:37 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Two buffers open with one file In-Reply-To: <485AEB86.2060303@rice.edu> References: <485AEB86.2060303@rice.edu> Message-ID: <517bf110806191653v17512e50y189f460d2c346b23@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 4:28 PM, John C Polking wrote: > However, there is one feature that I miss. At least I have not been able to > figure out how to set it up. On UNIX or PC I was able to open two emacs > buffers accessing the same file. This made copying and pasting very easy. > How do I do this using Aquamacs? I just use split-window (which I've bound to F4), and it's two windows into the same buffer, but I think that gives the effect you want, no? -Tim > > If it is impossible, this would be a good feature to add. > > -- > John C. Polking > (713) 348-4841 (Office) > Department of Mathematics (713) 348-4829 (Dept of Math) > Rice University (713) 348-5231 (FAX) > PO Box 1892 polking@rice.edu > Houston, TX 77251 http://math.rice.edu/~polking > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Fri Jun 20 04:05:20 2008 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Fri Jun 20 04:05:27 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Two buffers open with one file In-Reply-To: <485AEB86.2060303@rice.edu> References: <485AEB86.2060303@rice.edu> Message-ID: Am 20.06.2008 um 01:28 schrieb John C Polking: > How do I do this using Aquamacs? C-x 2 to split a window into two. (C-x 0 to close.) C-x 5 2 to create another frame. (C-x 5 0 to close.) -- Greetings Pete No project was ever completed on time and within budget. ? Cheops Law From david.reitter at gmail.com Fri Jun 20 05:59:28 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Fri Jun 20 06:15:04 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aqua 1.4 buglet? aquamacs-backward-kill-word In-Reply-To: <517bf110806191613r2253c69fw13eef0ab63bba326@mail.gmail.com> References: <517bf110806191613r2253c69fw13eef0ab63bba326@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <91FED01E-F8EA-4B05-ACD4-7E326B09C3CA@gmail.com> Tim, On 20 Jun 2008, at 00:13, Tim Bray wrote: > Command-backspace is bound to this, and when I hit it and the mark > isn't set, I get "The mark is not set now, so there is no region". > Ordinary backward-kill-word doesn't seem to have this problem. Easy > workaround, just hit set-mark-command. -T I can't reproduce this, probably because I don't have your setup. Does evaluating the following help -? - David (defun aquamacs-kill-word (&optional beg end arg) "Kill characters forward until encountering the end of a word. With argument, do this that many times." (interactive "rp") (if (and transient-mark-mode mark-active beg end) (kill-region beg end) (kill-region (point) (progn (forward-word arg) (point))))) (defun aquamacs-backward-kill-word (&optional beg end arg) "Kill characters backward until encountering the beginning of a word. With argument, do this that many times." (interactive "rp") (aquamacs-kill-word beg end (- (or arg 1)))) -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Command-1 will remove the extra window from the frame again. -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2193 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080620/82f87636/smime.bin From emarceta at gmail.com Fri Jun 20 12:34:37 2008 From: emarceta at gmail.com (Emil Marceta) Date: Fri Jun 20 13:01:22 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Resize frame keys in Aquamacs 1.4 Message-ID: <74b000990806200934x5e7c13f9l9b9e94d77e84fd8f@mail.gmail.com> Hi there, Looks like Ctrl+Meta+{Dn, Up, Left, Right} (resize frame) in Aquamacs has changed; Left, Right default to text navigation now while Up and Dn keys are unchanged. Could someone help with restoring the Left, Right keys so they resize the frame as in 1.3? Thanks, emil From hober0 at gmail.com Fri Jun 20 12:12:51 2008 From: hober0 at gmail.com (Edward O'Connor) Date: Fri Jun 20 15:08:15 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Two buffers open with one file In-Reply-To: <485AEB86.2060303@rice.edu> References: <485AEB86.2060303@rice.edu> Message-ID: <3b31caf90806200912r23b268f4lbf203581655838f2@mail.gmail.com> > figure out how to set it up. On UNIX or PC I was able to open two emacs > buffers accessing the same file. This made copying and pasting very easy. M-x clone-indirect-buffer RET From nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com Fri Jun 20 15:17:20 2008 From: nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com (Nathaniel Cunningham) Date: Fri Jun 20 15:17:24 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Resize frame keys in Aquamacs 1.4 In-Reply-To: <74b000990806200934x5e7c13f9l9b9e94d77e84fd8f@mail.gmail.com> References: <74b000990806200934x5e7c13f9l9b9e94d77e84fd8f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20ecf6c70806201217t2df81a2dm8e6e638c596c755d@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:34 AM, Emil Marceta wrote: > > Looks like Ctrl+Meta+{Dn, Up, Left, Right} (resize frame) in Aquamacs > has changed; > Left, Right default to text navigation now while Up and Dn keys are > unchanged. > > Could someone help with restoring the Left, Right keys so they resize > the frame as in 1.3? > These functions are now accessible via Ctrl-Cmd-arrow (up/down/left/right) Will that work for you? --Nathaniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Well, in the general case, Emacs is carefully designed to make key/function mapping easy, so it's questionable to refer to some new added feature simply by keystroke, the function is the real value-add so it'd be nice to know what it is. More specifically, because I've got (setq mac-command-modifier 'meta) I can't actually type CMD-anything to see what function it's bound to. -T From nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com Fri Jun 20 15:00:22 2008 From: nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com (Nathaniel Cunningham) Date: Fri Jun 20 15:59:15 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Request function names for 1.4 stuff? In-Reply-To: <517bf110806191658q2e3cb903pa57a7a263ddcf692@mail.gmail.com> References: <517bf110806191658q2e3cb903pa57a7a263ddcf692@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20ecf6c70806201200x779f729cjd2e70921b2e6185@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Tim Bray wrote: Which means that I can't get at some of your useful new > functions without poking around to figure out the function names. > E.g. aquamacs-toggle-full-frame is what you by default bind to > shift-command-enter. Having a little trouble with the tabbar > keybindings. If the release notes included the function names, this > would be easier. -T > If you're trying to get at the function names bound to various keys or menu items, use C-h k Is that what you're after? Is a list much more helpful than that? --Nathaniel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Thanks, yes that works fine. emil From polking at rice.edu Fri Jun 20 17:50:44 2008 From: polking at rice.edu (John C Polking) Date: Fri Jun 20 18:08:54 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Two buffers open with one file In-Reply-To: References: <485AEB86.2060303@rice.edu> Message-ID: <485C2634.4020907@rice.edu> C-X 5 2 does it. Thanks to everyone who mentioned that. Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 20.06.2008 um 01:28 schrieb John C Polking: > >> How do I do this using Aquamacs? > > C-x 2 to split a window into two. (C-x 0 to close.) > C-x 5 2 to create another frame. (C-x 5 0 to close.) > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > No project was ever completed on time and within budget. > ? Cheops Law > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > -- John C. Polking (713) 348-4841 (Office) Department of Mathematics (713) 348-4829 (Dept of Math) Rice University (713) 348-5231 (FAX) PO Box 1892 polking@rice.edu Houston, TX 77251 http://math.rice.edu/~polking From david.reitter at gmail.com Fri Jun 20 19:30:43 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Fri Jun 20 19:30:53 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Request function names for 1.4 stuff? In-Reply-To: <517bf110806201228o7c869089g5166c0685d6a2b36@mail.gmail.com> References: <517bf110806191658q2e3cb903pa57a7a263ddcf692@mail.gmail.com> <20ecf6c70806201200x779f729cjd2e70921b2e6185@mail.gmail.com> <517bf110806201228o7c869089g5166c0685d6a2b36@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8276072C-996F-4898-83CC-9B7DA32140CC@gmail.com> On 20 Jun 2008, at 20:28, Tim Bray wrote: > > Well, in the general case, Emacs is carefully designed to make > key/function mapping easy, so it's questionable to refer to some new > added feature simply by keystroke, the function is the real value-add > so it'd be nice to know what it is. More specifically, because I've > got > (setq mac-command-modifier 'meta) > I can't actually type CMD-anything to see what function it's bound > to. -T Yes, you're right - we should mention the new functions in the Change Log. For the time being, I recommend you inspect osx-key-mode-map and osx- key-low-priority-key-map to find the bindings. - David -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2193 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080621/09409fe1/smime.bin From ian.eure at gmail.com Mon Jun 23 17:50:54 2008 From: ian.eure at gmail.com (Ian Eure) Date: Mon Jun 23 18:54:52 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] aquamacs-backward-kill-word issues, 1.4 kvetching Message-ID: Someone already mentioned this, but I didn't see any resolution. When I use aquamacs-backward-kill-word (M-backspace), I get this error: The mark is not set now, so there is no region It happens around 50% of the time I use it. I get it more frequently when using the minibuffer or ERC. Much more irritating, though, is that aquamacs-backward-kill-word ignores prefix commands. So if I do M-2 M-backspace, it only kills one word, not two. For now, I've rebound it to backwards-kill-word, and I'm happy again. On a slightly different topic, how do I get my fixed-width mode-line font back? From david.reitter at gmail.com Tue Jun 24 05:48:04 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Tue Jun 24 06:15:03 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] mode-line face In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2FDAB5A4-09CE-4D98-8CC7-F2A3DDCF49EC@gmail.com> On 23 Jun 2008, at 22:50, Ian Eure wrote: > Someone already mentioned this, but I didn't see any resolution. > When I use aquamacs-backward-kill-word (M-backspace), I get this > error: We need more contextual information regarding this: do you have cua- mode turned off? Or made any other changes to the default config? The latest nightlies contain a workaround. > On a slightly different topic, how do I get my fixed-width mode-line > font back? The face for this is called `mode-line'. M-x customize-face -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! From agw at comcast.net Wed Jun 25 11:02:12 2008 From: agw at comcast.net (Art Werschulz) Date: Wed Jun 25 11:19:39 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] problem running (pdf)latex Message-ID: Hi. Using Aquamacs 1.4 with AUCTeX ... I'm trying to run (pdf)latex from within same. I get the following in the *blah output* buffer (where blah is the full path to the LaTeX file, minus the ".tex"): Running `LaTeX' on `foo' with ``pdflatex -interaction=nonstopmode "\input" foo.tex'' /bin/sh: pdflatex: command not found LaTeX exited abnormally with code 127 at Wed Jun 25 10:58:33 Note that if I do "M-x shell", I have: agw@home:~$ which pdflatex /usr/local/texlive/2007/bin/i386-darwin/pdflatex Suggestions? Thanks. Art Werschulz 207 Stoughton Avenue, Cranford NJ 07016-2838 (908) 272-1146 From thvv at multicians.org Wed Jun 25 11:32:35 2008 From: thvv at multicians.org (Tom Van Vleck) Date: Wed Jun 25 11:59:37 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 fill mode Message-ID: <5BECD2AA-3AC3-475E-81E5-8412E8F07B37@multicians.org> Aquamacs 1.4 turns fill mode on for HTML mode. I found this a gratuitous and undesired change, and turned it off. Here is my thinking: my editing windows are usually much wider than 80 characters. Crushing everything over to the left means I see less of my file and more empty space. From davidcross at charter.net Wed Jun 25 21:36:28 2008 From: davidcross at charter.net (David Cross) Date: Wed Jun 25 22:35:18 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 1.4 fill mode In-Reply-To: <5BECD2AA-3AC3-475E-81E5-8412E8F07B37@multicians.org> (Tom Van Vleck's message of "Wed\, 25 Jun 2008 11\:32\:35 -0400") References: <5BECD2AA-3AC3-475E-81E5-8412E8F07B37@multicians.org> Message-ID: I agree ... I would rather edit HTML with fill mode off. My thinking is that the code is easier to read if each command is contained on a single line. Cheers Tom Van Vleck writes: > Aquamacs 1.4 turns fill mode on for HTML mode. I found this > a gratuitous and undesired change, and turned it off. > > Here is my thinking: my editing windows are usually much wider > than 80 characters. Crushing everything over to the > left means I see less of my file and more empty space. > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx From ck at bru6.de Thu Jun 26 06:07:27 2008 From: ck at bru6.de (Christian Kirsch) Date: Thu Jun 26 06:28:25 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] fill-column in Aquamacs 1.4 Message-ID: <48636A5F.3040108@bru6.de> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I just installed Aquamacs 1.4 on an Intel iMac/Leopard 10.5.3. In a minor mode, I use (set-fill-column 50), which stopped working now (it effectively set the fill-column to 50 in Aquamacs < 1.4). Here's what I do: (message (format "fill-column vor %d\n" fill-column)) (setq fill-column 50) (message (format "fill-column nach %d\n" fill-column)) Message buffer is fill-column vor 70 fill-column nach 50 However, autofilling starts at column 70 and C-h v fill-column still sees fill-column as 70. Am I doing something stupid here? Christian -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFIY2pfYamCtkVm7roRAlvQAJ9VBXxKBjRJ6dtwWkkDozJblk1dLACghoDs otszJIwlmWNtiHfVyrD1rWE= =fxym -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From david.reitter at gmail.com Thu Jun 26 06:37:33 2008 From: david.reitter at gmail.com (David Reitter) Date: Thu Jun 26 06:37:39 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] fill-column in Aquamacs 1.4 In-Reply-To: <48636A5F.3040108@bru6.de> References: <48636A5F.3040108@bru6.de> Message-ID: <0808FA6D-15E5-49E4-BBF0-D0A0D56D94E6@gmail.com> Christian, On 26 Jun 2008, at 11:07, Christian Kirsch wrote: > > minor mode, I use (set-fill-column 50), which stopped working now (it > However, autofilling starts at column 70 and C-h v fill-column still > sees fill-column as 70. It works fine for me in a fresh buffer. You will have to make a proper bug report with step-by-step instructions, starting from an Aquamacs without personal customizations, started like this: /Applications/Aquamacs\ Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Aquamacs\ Emacs -q We'll be happy to help! - David -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 2193 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080626/65766441/smime.bin From tbray at textuality.com Thu Jun 26 23:17:38 2008 From: tbray at textuality.com (Tim Bray) Date: Thu Jun 26 23:17:44 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Turn Aquamacs spell-checker on per mode? Message-ID: <517bf110806262017t642c5dc9y888ed079072a8831@mail.gmail.com> Is there an easy way to turn the Aquamacs 1.4 real-time spell-checking on from elisp, so I can do that in my mode-hooks for some particular class of doc? -Tim From nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com Thu Jun 26 23:51:35 2008 From: nathaniel.cunningham at gmail.com (Nathaniel Cunningham) Date: Thu Jun 26 23:51:39 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Turn Aquamacs spell-checker on per mode? In-Reply-To: <517bf110806262017t642c5dc9y888ed079072a8831@mail.gmail.com> References: <517bf110806262017t642c5dc9y888ed079072a8831@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20ecf6c70806262051q5e718b7bndd2669d81023fbd9@mail.gmail.com> I belive the following should work, e.g. for text-mode: (add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-flyspell) --Nathaniel On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Tim Bray wrote: > Is there an easy way to turn the Aquamacs 1.4 real-time spell-checking > on from elisp, so I can do that in my mode-hooks for some particular > class of doc? > > -Tim > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <20ecf6c70806262051q5e718b7bndd2669d81023fbd9@mail.gmail.com> References: <517bf110806262017t642c5dc9y888ed079072a8831@mail.gmail.com> <20ecf6c70806262051q5e718b7bndd2669d81023fbd9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20ecf6c70806270656y7b9be3ct4fc5e58d90d02131@mail.gmail.com> I should point out that I used text-mode here as an example only; to turn on spell-check-as-you-type as the default for all text modes, there is an easier setting: Edit --> Spelling --> Check Spelling as You Type (in all text modes) (followed by Options --> Save Options to make it stick in future sessions) --Nathaniel On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Nathaniel Cunningham < nathaniel.cunningham@gmail.com> wrote: > I belive the following should work, e.g. for text-mode: > > (add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'turn-on-flyspell) > > --Nathaniel > > > On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Tim Bray wrote: > >> Is there an easy way to turn the Aquamacs 1.4 real-time spell-checking >> on from elisp, so I can do that in my mode-hooks for some particular >> class of doc? >> >> -Tim >> _____________________________________________________________ >> MacOSX-Emacs mailing list >> MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu >> http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs >> List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-emacs/attachments/20080627/d7281fda/attachment.html From hampus.edvardsson at gmail.com Sat Jun 28 18:00:53 2008 From: hampus.edvardsson at gmail.com (Hampus Edvardsson) Date: Sat Jun 28 19:01:19 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Setting default font in .emacs for Aquamacs 1.4 Message-ID: <98DD441E-386C-42E5-B7EA-EE2869CD3F03@gmail.com> Hi all, I have a question about setting the default font for Aquamacs 1.4. From within Aquamacs, I can succesfully set the font via M-X set- default-font, and select the font I want: "-apple-monaco-medium-r- normal--10-120-72-72-m-120-mac-roman". The font is set correctly. Running M-X describe-font informs me that the font is indeed the one I want: name (opened by): -apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--10-120-72-72-m-120- mac-roman full name: -apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--10-100-72-72-m-100- mac-roman size: 6 height: 13 baseline-offset: 0 relative-compose: 0 But of course, setting the font this was means it has be be reset for each session, and also when new frames are opened, annyingly. Instead, I want ot add this setting to my .emacs file, so I've added the following line to it: (set-default-font "-apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--10-120-72-72-m-120- mac-roman") But this does nothing. Running M-X descibe-font tells me that the font is: name (opened by): -apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-m-120- mac-roman full name: -apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-m-120- mac-roman size: 7 height: 15 baseline-offset: 0 relative-compose: 0 No suspicious errors are reported to the *Messages* buffer when the .emacs file is executed. Any ideas of what I am doing wrong? /Hampus Edvardsson From pjm at spe.com Sun Jun 29 09:49:07 2008 From: pjm at spe.com (Patrick May) Date: Sun Jun 29 10:15:54 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Setting default font in .emacs for Aquamacs 1.4 In-Reply-To: <98DD441E-386C-42E5-B7EA-EE2869CD3F03@gmail.com> References: <98DD441E-386C-42E5-B7EA-EE2869CD3F03@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 28 Jun 2008, at 18:00, Hampus Edvardsson wrote: > Hi all, > I have a question about setting the default font for Aquamacs 1.4. > > From within Aquamacs, I can succesfully set the font via M-X set- > default-font, and select the font I want: "-apple-monaco-medium-r- > normal--10-120-72-72-m-120-mac-roman". The font is set correctly. > Running M-X describe-font informs me that the font is indeed the one > I want: > > name (opened by): -apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--10-120-72-72-m-120- > mac-roman > full name: -apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--10-100-72-72-m-100- > mac-roman > size: 6 > height: 13 > baseline-offset: 0 > relative-compose: 0 > > But of course, setting the font this was means it has be be reset > for each session, and also when new frames are opened, annyingly. > > Instead, I want ot add this setting to my .emacs file, so I've added > the following line to it: > > (set-default-font "-apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--10-120-72-72-m-120- > mac-roman") > > But this does nothing. Running M-X descibe-font tells me that the > font is: > > name (opened by): -apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-m-120- > mac-roman > full name: -apple-monaco-medium-r-normal--12-120-72-72-m-120- > mac-roman > size: 7 > height: 15 > baseline-offset: 0 > relative-compose: 0 > > No suspicious errors are reported to the *Messages* buffer when > the .emacs file is executed. Any ideas of what I am doing wrong? I can't answer your question directly, but I have an additional data point. I put the following into my .emacs: (set-default-font "-apple-bitstream vera sans mono-medium-r-normal--14-140-72-72-m-140- iso10646-1") This is the third line, after setting my initial and default frame width and height. It works. Is it possible that you're setting the default font and then stomping on it with another package? Regards, Patrick ---- pjm@spe.com S P Engineering, Inc. Large scale, mission-critical, distributed OO systems design and implementation. (C++, Java, Common Lisp, Jini, middleware, SOA) From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sun Jun 29 16:47:29 2008 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun Jun 29 16:47:38 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Setting default font in .emacs for Aquamacs 1.4 In-Reply-To: <98DD441E-386C-42E5-B7EA-EE2869CD3F03@gmail.com> References: <98DD441E-386C-42E5-B7EA-EE2869CD3F03@gmail.com> Message-ID: Am 29.06.2008 um 00:00 schrieb Hampus Edvardsson: > Any ideas of what I am doing wrong? Maybe you are not using (setq initial-frame-alist '( (mouse-color . "midnightblue") (foreground-color . "grey20") (background-color . "alice blue") (internal-border-width . 2) (line-spacing . 1) (active-alpha . 0.875) (inactive-alpha . 0.75) (font . "-apple-courier std-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-mac-roman") (top . 25) (left . 650) (width . 91) (height . 50))) (setq default-frame-alist '( (border-color . "#4e3831") (foreground-color . "grey10") (background-color . "ghost white") (vertical-scroll-bars . left) (cursor-color . "purple") (cursor-type . box) (active-alpha . 0.75) (inactive-alpha . 0.875) (font . "fontset-09pt_vera_sans_mono") (top . 50) (left . 150) (width . 89) (height . 56))) -- Greetings Pete If all else fails read the instructions. - Donald Knuth From hampus.edvardsson at gmail.com Sun Jun 29 17:55:46 2008 From: hampus.edvardsson at gmail.com (Hampus Edvardsson) Date: Sun Jun 29 17:55:52 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Setting default font in .emacs for Aquamacs 1.4 In-Reply-To: References: <98DD441E-386C-42E5-B7EA-EE2869CD3F03@gmail.com> Message-ID: 29 jun 2008 kl. 22.47 skrev Peter Dyballa: > > Maybe you are not using > > (setq initial-frame-alist '( > (mouse-color . "midnightblue") > (foreground-color . "grey20") > (background-color . "alice blue") > (internal-border-width . 2) > (line-spacing . 1) > (active-alpha . 0.875) > (inactive-alpha . 0.75) > (font . "-apple-courier std-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-mac- > roman") > (top . 25) (left . 650) (width . 91) (height . 50))) > > (setq default-frame-alist '( > (border-color . "#4e3831") > (foreground-color . "grey10") > (background-color . "ghost white") > (vertical-scroll-bars . left) > (cursor-color . "purple") > (cursor-type . box) > (active-alpha . 0.75) > (inactive-alpha . 0.875) > (font . "fontset-09pt_vera_sans_mono") > (top . 50) (left . 150) (width . 89) (height . 56))) That did the trick, thanks! /Hampus Edvardsson From pjm at spe.com Sun Jun 29 18:06:10 2008 From: pjm at spe.com (Patrick May) Date: Sun Jun 29 18:12:57 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Setting default font in .emacs for Aquamacs 1.4 In-Reply-To: References: <98DD441E-386C-42E5-B7EA-EE2869CD3F03@gmail.com> Message-ID: <94D7A881-794D-4F19-91A4-C7F0BE32CB85@spe.com> On 29 Jun 2008, at 17:55, Hampus Edvardsson wrote: > 29 jun 2008 kl. 22.47 skrev Peter Dyballa: >> Maybe you are not using >> >> (setq initial-frame-alist '( >> (mouse-color . "midnightblue") >> (foreground-color . "grey20") >> (background-color . "alice blue") >> (internal-border-width . 2) >> (line-spacing . 1) >> (active-alpha . 0.875) >> (inactive-alpha . 0.75) >> (font . "-apple-courier std-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-mac- >> roman") >> (top . 25) (left . 650) (width . 91) (height . 50))) >> >> (setq default-frame-alist '( >> (border-color . "#4e3831") >> (foreground-color . "grey10") >> (background-color . "ghost white") >> (vertical-scroll-bars . left) >> (cursor-color . "purple") >> (cursor-type . box) >> (active-alpha . 0.75) >> (inactive-alpha . 0.875) >> (font . "fontset-09pt_vera_sans_mono") >> (top . 50) (left . 150) (width . 89) (height . 56))) > > That did the trick, thanks!= Of course, you are now in a state of sin for setting your window width greater than 80 characters. ;-) Regards, Patrick ---- pjm@spe.com S P Engineering, Inc. Large scale, mission-critical, distributed OO systems design and implementation. (C++, Java, Common Lisp, Jini, middleware, SOA) From hampus.edvardsson at gmail.com Sun Jun 29 18:37:48 2008 From: hampus.edvardsson at gmail.com (Hampus Edvardsson) Date: Sun Jun 29 18:37:54 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Setting default font in .emacs for Aquamacs 1.4 In-Reply-To: <94D7A881-794D-4F19-91A4-C7F0BE32CB85@spe.com> References: <98DD441E-386C-42E5-B7EA-EE2869CD3F03@gmail.com> <94D7A881-794D-4F19-91A4-C7F0BE32CB85@spe.com> Message-ID: <37F90FD1-4C8A-47F4-ABFC-75B7E9466AB0@gmail.com> 30 jun 2008 kl. 00.06 skrev Patrick May: > > Of course, you are now in a state of sin for setting your window > width greater than 80 characters. ;-) Ha! Luckily I removed that part before adding it to my settings ;-) /Hampus Edvardsson From peter at mollerneergaard.net Sun Jun 29 18:09:03 2008 From: peter at mollerneergaard.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Peter_M=F8ller_Neergaard?=) Date: Sun Jun 29 18:38:11 2008 Subject: [OS X Emacs] Is there a way to donate without first registering for a sourceforge account Message-ID: <9B98877F-DBF5-4355-89F3-8CEA7AC6CC17@mollerneergaard.net> I've used Aquaemacs occasionally for a while. I would like to acknowledge the work put in by the developers by donating to the project. It appears that every link on the donationts page (http://aquamacs.org/donations.shtml ) take you to a page where you first need to create a SourceForge account. This seems unnecessary onerous -- I'm interesting in donating, not in starting to receive e-mails from SourceForge. Thank you /Peter -- ?You are more authentic the more you resemble what you dream of being.? ? 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It appears that every link on the donationts page (http://aquamacs.org/donations.shtml > ) take you to a page where you first need to create a SourceForge > account. This seems unnecessary onerous -- I'm interesting in > donating, not in starting to receive e-mails from SourceForge. I absolutely agree. This is one reason why I've been working on moving the project away from Sourceforge completely. I'm currently only waiting for Paypal to remove some account restrictions; Paypal is complicated, but I also have no simple alternative (Google Checkout is unsuitable for other reasons). Hang in there. -- http://aquamacs.org -- Aquamacs: Emacs on Mac OS X http://aquamacs.org/donate -- Could we help you? Return the favor and support the Aquamacs Project! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It appears that every link on the donationts page (http://aquamacs.org/donations.shtml > ) take you to a page where you first need to create a SourceForge > account. This seems unnecessary onerous -- I'm interesting in > donating, not in starting to receive e-mails from SourceForge. > > Thank you > > /Peter > > -- > ?You are more authentic the more you resemble what you dream of > being.? ? Pedro Almodóvar > Peter Møller Neergaard > peter@mollerneergaard.net > > > _____________________________________________________________ > MacOSX-Emacs mailing list > MacOSX-Emacs@email.esm.psu.edu > http://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-emacs > List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.macintosh.osx -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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