From ueliisa at gmx.net Sun May 1 01:20:04 2005 From: ueliisa at gmx.net (Ueliisa) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 07:20:04 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] documentation In-Reply-To: <1A0BD550-3572-4265-95B1-977BD68B7017@mac.com> References: <54289ae7ee55257b60a6601e71e71231@adelphia.net> <1A0BD550-3572-4265-95B1-977BD68B7017@mac.com> Message-ID: Thats Great an index for the "local guide' ueliisa On 30.04.2005, at 18:51, Jose Carrion wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Assuming you have teTeX installed in the default location via > i-installer, the following link gives you some basic documentation and > links to the docs already on your system: > > file:///usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/doc/index.html > > It's pretty useful; I have it on my bookmarks bar in Safari. > > On Apr 30, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Themis Matsoukas wrote: > >> Where can I find documentation for the various styles available? I am >> looking in particular for rotating and pdflscape but a search in the >> finder revealed only .sty files with that name. > > > Jose Carrion > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > iD8DBQFCc7eir+ZuHrpRC6gRArmnAJ9AUxYy7+k23rzlI0GUD5dYPfVpigCgjZ/a > mgzZ+95rcicSvY+Qgi1oH/8= > =atEG > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From costabel at wanadoo.fr Sun May 1 04:41:29 2005 From: costabel at wanadoo.fr (Martin Costabel) Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 10:41:29 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: [OS X TeX] In-Reply-To: <5E9F12FB-0185-46DF-9FDC-B564C36CBE59@engr.psu.edu> References: <13582df2e1b926f360cebf0ab969d43c@cox.net> <5E9F12FB-0185-46DF-9FDC-B564C36CBE59@engr.psu.edu> Message-ID: <42749639.1090408@wanadoo.fr> Gary L. Gray wrote: [] >> On Apr 30, 2005, at 4:59 PM, Rodrigo Banuelos wrote: >> >> >>> Hi, >>> I seem to have a problem with Texshop 2 and OS 10.4 (Tiger). After >>> I typeset (it happens every time), the color wheel starts spinning >>> for a few seconds (sometime many seconds) and Texshop seems to just >>> stop. Any ideas? >>> >>> Rodrigo Banuelos >>> Math Dept >>> Purdue University > > > I am seeing this too. It seems that it takes few seconds to update the > PDF when it is a complex document. I didn't see this with previous > versions of TeXShop under Panther. The new feature on Tiger that could cause this is Spotlight. In particular during the first hours after a Tiger installation when the spotlight database is not yet complete, the system is considerably slowed down, and any new file that has to be analyzed (pdfs are deeply analyzed) can take a little while to finish. -- Martin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Sun May 1 05:28:02 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:28:02 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: [NTG-context] TEXMFMAIN problem in gwTeX (font installation) In-Reply-To: <427230A6.6080500@kpatents.com> References: <427230A6.6080500@kpatents.com> Message-ID: <797c87f1126c1c8a1cab222b37735652@rna.nl> On Apr 29, 2005, at 15:03, Ville Voipio wrote (on the ConTeX list, but this also is interesting for all gwTeX users): > I have spent some very interesting time trying to install the TeXlive > fonts by using texfont type-tmf.dat. What happened was that a lot of > complaints about "unknown subpath ../afm/public/urw" were given even > though the path should have been there. This is a known problem, has > been on several mailing lists, as well. > > After a lot of thinking it became clear that texfont was really unable > to find any font files. By browsing through the texfont.pl, the reason > became evident: In gwTeX the root variables are: > > TEXMFMAIN = /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf > TEXMFTE = /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex > > The problem here is that all the TeXlive fonts (and almost everthing > else) is really in the TEXMFTE tree. > > My quick'n'dirty was to make new file type-tmf-gwtex.dat by replacing > all occurrences of TEXMFMAIN by TEXMFTE. Running that one in batch > mode works fine. > > Problem solved -- this time. But the solution is not a beautiful one. > Could someone suggest something cleaner? Or has this been solved > already (I tried googling after the answer without success)? TEXMFMAIN in TL is now reserved for only the stuff that is directly related to the binaries (like the pool files or anything that needs to stay in sync - grammar wise - with the binaries and scripts). In TeX Live the 'foundation' now lives in .../texmf-dist (TEXMFDIST) and not in ../texmf In gwTeX, there are a few foundation trees: TEXMFTE for the teTeX tree and TEXMFGW for my additions I think it is a simplification by texfont that it has a hardwired location. TeX is not set up that way. Probably the correct solution is for texfont itself to act in a more dynamic way, e.g. by trying to locate with kpsewhich some elements that are supposed to be there already and take th eresult of that search as the settin for what it now assumes to be hardwired. In the meantime: your fix is correct. G --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From shukla at sissa.it Sun May 1 08:06:15 2005 From: shukla at sissa.it (Mohinish) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 14:06:15 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] makeidx error In-Reply-To: <7d31a9d92c659d7867442d499b04844d@uleth.ca> References: <36013.5096@email.esm.psu.edu> <7d31a9d92c659d7867442d499b04844d@uleth.ca> Message-ID: <9dd96bc86b142fdd68078e91da95719e@sissa.it> Hi well, I DO use both apacite as well as indexing, and it works.. below the beginning of my preamble (this is for my thesis) -Mohinish ps: Ah! I see I've left myself a little note down there saying that nocite is needed for makeidx :D (pps: Theres something funny about the subfigure package.. I dunno if this is important.) ---------------- \documentclass[12pt,twoside]{book} \usepackage{latexsym,amsfonts} \usepackage[dvips]{graphicx} \usepackage{amsmath,amsthm,amssymb} % math stuff, with useful commmands \usepackage{verbatim} \usepackage{multirow} % for making tables with multiple rows collapsed into 1 \usepackage{rotating} % to try and rotate a table. \usepackage{tipa} \usepackage{qtree} % To generate linguistic trees \usepackage{gb4e} % For linguistic examples \usepackage{setspace} \usepackage{fancyhdr} \usepackage{varioref} \usepackage{titleref} \usepackage[it,small]{caption2} \usepackage{epigraph} \usepackage[noindex,notocbib]{apacite} % The nocite option is imp. to be able to use makeidx to generate an index \usepackage{makeidx} \usepackage{dropping} % For dropped caps starting chapters \makeindex On 1 May 2005, at 2:37 AM, John Vokey wrote: > Bruno and Mohinish, > Thank you. apacite (as opposed to apacitex) is supposed to be an > indexless version (at least according to the documentation): the > [noindex] option, again according to the documentation, is supposed to > used to turn author indexing off in apacitex, but be non-functional > (although harmless) in apacite. Apparently not. > > However, it doesn't work in any case. It still throws the same > fatal error at \printindex, apparently no matter what I do. I'll > contact Erik Meijer, the author. > > On 30-Apr-05, at 6:00 PM, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List wrote: > >> Hi, >> indeed, apacite messes up makeidx. >> >> you should use apacite with the [noindex] option for makeidx to work >> >> (sorry if this is late, I was away) >> Mohinish >> >> >> On 28 Apr 2005, at 3:24 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: >> >>> Le 28 avr. 05, ? 02:50, John Vokey a ?crit : >>> >>>> I am baffled. The only other packages I am loading are: >>>> \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} >>>> \usepackage{longtable,apacite,rotating,picinpar} >>>> >>>> none of which should redefine \printindex >>> >>> One does, indirectly: apacite.sty (not a standard part of gwTeX, you >>> must have got it from CTAN) calls index.sty in which you find >>> >>>> \def\printindex{\@ifnextchar[{\@printindex}{\@printindex[default]}} >>>> >>>> \def\@printindex[#1]{% >>>> \@ifnextchar[{\@print at index[#1]}{\@print at index[#1][]}% >>>> } >>>> >>>> \long\def\@print at index[#1][#2]{% >>>> \def\@indextype{#1}% >>>> \long\def\index at prologue{#2}% >>>> \@ifundefined{idx@#1}% >>>> {\@latexerr{Index type `\string#1' undefined}\@ehc}% >>>> {% >>>> \edef\@tempa{\@nameuse{idx@#1}}% >>>> \edef\@tempa{% >>>> >>>> \noexpand\@input@{\jobname.\expandafter\@second\@tempa\@nil}% >>>> }% >>>> \@tempa >>>> }% >>>> } >>> >>> This applies to CTAN's version >>> >> apacite.sty> of 2004/07/01. >>> >>> Bruno Voisin > -- > John R. Vokey, PhD > Professor > B.E.R.G. - Behaviour and Evolution Research Group > Micro-Cognition Laboratory > Department of Psychology & Neuroscience > University of Lethbridge > Lethbridge, Alberta T1K 3M4 > CANADA > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From matsoukas at adelphia.net Sun May 1 09:01:36 2005 From: matsoukas at adelphia.net (Themis Matsoukas) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 09:01:36 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] documentation In-Reply-To: <54436ab5c6dfaf64dc841bd2b65f1250@uva.nl> References: <54289ae7ee55257b60a6601e71e71231@adelphia.net> <54436ab5c6dfaf64dc841bd2b65f1250@uva.nl> Message-ID: <6583ab3f9cc5997ee02ab6977431c9fa@adelphia.net> On Apr 30, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Martin Stokhof wrote: > > On 30 Apr, 2005, at 13:08, Themis Matsoukas wrote: > > Try the command 'texdoc' in the terminal (without the quotes) with as > an arghument the name of the package or sty file that you want to find > documentation for. It locates any documentation that it can find the > system en local texmf trees and opens it for you. In the case at hand, > typing: > > texdoc rotating > > in the terminal opens the pdf file rotating.pdf in TeXShop on my > system. > Great tip. Thanks Themis --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From matsoukas at adelphia.net Sun May 1 09:08:05 2005 From: matsoukas at adelphia.net (Themis Matsoukas) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 09:08:05 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] documentation In-Reply-To: References: <54289ae7ee55257b60a6601e71e71231@adelphia.net> <1A0BD550-3572-4265-95B1-977BD68B7017@mac.com> Message-ID: <5cccbb98673579488f23974011182fc7@adelphia.net> useful, indeed - if only things were a little more transparent for the user. It is a pity that none of this hidden documentation is integrated with some simple help facility, say, from Finder's menu bar. Themis On May 1, 2005, at 1:20 AM, Ueliisa wrote: > Thats Great an index for the "local guide' > > ueliisa > > >> >> Assuming you have teTeX installed in the default location via >> i-installer, the following link gives you some basic documentation >> and links to the docs already on your system: >> >> file:///usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/doc/index.html >> >> It's pretty useful; I have it on my bookmarks bar in Safari. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From riseguin at earthlink.net Sun May 1 09:52:27 2005 From: riseguin at earthlink.net (Richard Seguin) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 08:52:27 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: [OS X TeX] In-Reply-To: <42749639.1090408@wanadoo.fr> References: <13582df2e1b926f360cebf0ab969d43c@cox.net> <5E9F12FB-0185-46DF-9FDC-B564C36CBE59@engr.psu.edu> <42749639.1090408@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: On May 1, 2005, at 3:41 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: > Gary L. Gray wrote: > [] > >>> On Apr 30, 2005, at 4:59 PM, Rodrigo Banuelos wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> I seem to have a problem with Texshop 2 and OS 10.4 (Tiger). >>>> After I typeset (it happens every time), the color wheel starts >>>> spinning for a few seconds (sometime many seconds) and Texshop >>>> seems to just stop. Any ideas? >>>> >>>> Rodrigo Banuelos >>>> Math Dept >>>> Purdue University >>>> >> I am seeing this too. It seems that it takes few seconds to >> update the PDF when it is a complex document. I didn't see this >> with previous versions of TeXShop under Panther. >> > > The new feature on Tiger that could cause this is Spotlight. In > particular during the first hours after a Tiger installation when > the spotlight database is not yet complete, the system is > considerably slowed down, and any new file that has to be analyzed > (pdfs are deeply analyzed) can take a little while to finish. > > -- > Martin I have Spotlight turned off for my entire user directory (I'm still pondering the security implications of Spotlight), and I had a big problem with TeXShop and the spinning beach ball last night. Richard S?guin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From j.hegewald at tu-bs.de Sun May 1 12:28:20 2005 From: j.hegewald at tu-bs.de (Jan Hegewald) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 18:28:20 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop wish list In-Reply-To: References: <8348F617-F844-47E0-9E5B-B0F21907E9EB@cox.net> Message-ID: <78650af05ce54c25bbc00b81e0061ad4@tu-bs.de> Hello. Am 01.05.2005 um 01:07 schrieb Josep M.Font: > I thought that in MacOS X, command-< switches through all open windows > of the active application. At least it works for me--in a Spanish > keyboard BTW. This depends on the language settings. With my German setup it?s also cmd-< (and cmd-> for reverse order). j --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bic at cgl.ucsf.edu Sun May 1 13:33:44 2005 From: bic at cgl.ucsf.edu (Bruce Cohen) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 10:33:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight and .tex files Message-ID: I would like to be able to use Tiger's "Spotlight" to search my large collection of LaTeX source files. Any ideas? (Yes, I could use grep, but ...) Thanks. -Bruce Bruce Cohen e-mail: bic at cgl.ucsf.edu Lowell High School http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/bic --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gray at engr.psu.edu Sun May 1 13:36:42 2005 From: gray at engr.psu.edu (Gary L. Gray) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 13:36:42 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight and .tex files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7B5E24E5-70E3-476B-8FD6-9F59A91C6E80@engr.psu.edu> On May 1, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Bruce Cohen wrote: > I would like to be able to use Tiger's "Spotlight" to search my > large collection of LaTeX source files. > > Any ideas? (Yes, I could use grep, but ...) It has indexed all of mine -- both the .tex source and the .pdf output. It is AMAZING! :-) -- Gary --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fcnpereira at mac.com Sun May 1 14:14:12 2005 From: fcnpereira at mac.com (Fernando Pereira) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 14:14:12 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight and .tex files In-Reply-To: <7B5E24E5-70E3-476B-8FD6-9F59A91C6E80@engr.psu.edu> References: <7B5E24E5-70E3-476B-8FD6-9F59A91C6E80@engr.psu.edu> Message-ID: <13D46C6D-6154-4E24-B7B9-21741EB52EC3@mac.com> On May 1, 2005, at 1:36 PM, Gary L. Gray wrote: > It has indexed all of mine -- both the .tex source and the .pdf > output. It is AMAZING! :-) Mine too. Searching for "Gaussian prior", a term that comes up a lot in my recent work, I get .tex, .pdf, .doc, .key, .ppt and email message hits. Very cool. -- F --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bic at cgl.ucsf.edu Sun May 1 14:25:32 2005 From: bic at cgl.ucsf.edu (Bruce Cohen) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 11:25:32 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Spotlight and .tex files In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As one of my former colleagues would say "USER ERROR." I now see the "show all" button at the top will lead to all the .tex files I am seeking. -Bruce On Sun, 1 May 2005, Bruce Cohen wrote: > I would like to be able to use Tiger's "Spotlight" to search my large > collection of LaTeX source files. > > Any ideas? (Yes, I could use grep, but ...) > > Thanks. > -Bruce > > Bruce Cohen e-mail: bic at cgl.ucsf.edu > Lowell High School http://www.cgl.ucsf.edu/home/bic > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 1 17:57:24 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 23:57:24 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] documentation In-Reply-To: <5cccbb98673579488f23974011182fc7@adelphia.net> References: <54289ae7ee55257b60a6601e71e71231@adelphia.net> <1A0BD550-3572-4265-95B1-977BD68B7017@mac.com> <5cccbb98673579488f23974011182fc7@adelphia.net> Message-ID: Le 1 mai 05 ? 15:08, Themis Matsoukas a ?crit : > useful, indeed - if only things were a little more transparent for > the user. It is a pity that none of this hidden documentation is > integrated with some simple help facility, say, from Finder's menu > bar. Some time ago, J?r?me Laurens of iTeXMac fame has converted some LaTeX documentation for use with Help Viewer . Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sun May 1 18:26:50 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 00:26:50 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] documentation In-Reply-To: References: <54289ae7ee55257b60a6601e71e71231@adelphia.net> <1A0BD550-3572-4265-95B1-977BD68B7017@mac.com> <5cccbb98673579488f23974011182fc7@adelphia.net> Message-ID: <8F9265E1-DC63-4BA3-970B-254D81912D06@xs4all.nl> On May 1, 2005, at 11:57 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 1 mai 05 ? 15:08, Themis Matsoukas a ?crit : > > >> useful, indeed - if only things were a little more transparent for >> the user. It is a pity that none of this hidden documentation is >> integrated with some simple help facility, say, from Finder's menu >> bar. >> > > Some time ago, J?r?me Laurens of iTeXMac fame has converted some > LaTeX documentation for use with Help Viewer itexmac.sourceforge.net/Download.html>. I think that with the advent of SpotLight, some other changes would be more helpful (sic). If the documentation of the packages is in PDF (instead of DVI), Spotlight would be able to index these files. This in turn would make it a lot easier to find documentation, or ways to achieve some effects (even if you didn't know the name of the package or the documentation name beforehand). Without looking, do you know the name of the documentation file that accompanies graphics.sty and graphicx.sty? The usefulness could be enhanced even further if a certain keyword or tag would be embedded in all documentation files (apart from the author supplied ones (something like "TeXDocumentation"), because searches can then be limited to files know to contain tex documentation. Maarten--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mingli at alcor.concordia.ca Sun May 1 20:17:11 2005 From: mingli at alcor.concordia.ca (Ming Li) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 20:17:11 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Figures of .eps format. Message-ID: Hi, I used this command in my document \epsfig{file=phalf.eps} and the following error message was generated: Unknown graphic extension: .eps. Does anybody know how to fix this? Thanks, Ming Li --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gray at engr.psu.edu Sun May 1 20:27:01 2005 From: gray at engr.psu.edu (Gary L. Gray) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 20:27:01 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Figures of .eps format. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 1, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Ming Li wrote: > I used this command in my document > > \epsfig{file=phalf.eps} > > and the following error message was generated: > > Unknown graphic extension: .eps. > > Does anybody know how to fix this? Are you using TeXShop and are you typesetting using "TeX and Ghostscript" under the "Typeset" menu? -- Gary --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mingli at alcor.concordia.ca Sun May 1 20:38:57 2005 From: mingli at alcor.concordia.ca (Ming Li) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 20:38:57 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Figures of .eps format. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've tried both "pdftex" and "TeX and Ghostscript," and it wouldn't work. However, I discovered that I could simply convert the .eps file into a .pdf file and solve the problem. Of course, I still don't know how to include ".eps" files. Ming On 1-May-05, at 8:27 PM, Gary L. Gray wrote: > > On May 1, 2005, at 8:17 PM, Ming Li wrote: > >> I used this command in my document >> >> \epsfig{file=phalf.eps} >> >> and the following error message was generated: >> >> Unknown graphic extension: .eps. >> >> Does anybody know how to fix this? > > Are you using TeXShop and are you typesetting using "TeX and > Ghostscript" under the "Typeset" menu? > > -- Gary > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gray at engr.psu.edu Sun May 1 20:43:56 2005 From: gray at engr.psu.edu (Gary L. Gray) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 20:43:56 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Figures of .eps format. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 1, 2005, at 8:38 PM, Ming Li wrote: > I've tried both "pdftex" and "TeX and Ghostscript," and it > wouldn't work. However, I discovered that I could simply convert > the .eps file into a .pdf file and solve the problem. Of course, I > still don't know how to include ".eps" files. It should work if you use the graphicx package and the command: \usepackage{graphicx} \DeclareGraphicsExtensions{.eps} I hope this helps. -- Gary --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From vokey at uleth.ca Sun May 1 21:47:15 2005 From: vokey at uleth.ca (John Vokey) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 19:47:15 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] makeidx error In-Reply-To: <22413.89767@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <22413.89767@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: Aha! That may be important; I will give it a try. Oddly, the documentation suggests otherwise. What I can't do is not use apacite. Then again, if I use [nocite] doesn't that imply I can't also have the author index? Something's not quite right here: Erik Meijer (the author) is not known for such obvious errors, so I suspect I (we?) have encountered some other unanticipated package interaction. On 1-May-05, at 6:00 PM, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List wrote: > Hi > well, I DO use both apacite as well as indexing, and it works.. below > the beginning of my preamble (this is for my thesis) > > -Mohinish > > ps: Ah! I see I've left myself a little note down there saying that > nocite is needed for makeidx :D > > (pps: Theres something funny about the subfigure package.. I dunno if > this is important.) > -- John R. Vokey, PhD Professor B.E.R.G. - Behaviour and Evolution Research Group Micro-Cognition Laboratory Department of Psychology & Neuroscience University of Lethbridge Lethbridge, Alberta T1K 3M4 CANADA --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From riseguin at earthlink.net Sun May 1 22:31:10 2005 From: riseguin at earthlink.net (Richard Seguin) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 21:31:10 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] The TeXShop problem on Tiger Message-ID: I just did a little experimentation with the new TeXShop on Tiger. The first time I typeset a document (resulting in about 75 pages) the CPU usage continues at almost 100% for about 15 seconds. The second time I typeset the same document, CPU usage continues at almost 100% indefinitely and I have to kill the application. If I change TeXShop to external editor mode and tell TeXShop to typeset the document from BBEdit using an applescript, none of this happens. CPU usage goes to almost 0% immediately after TeXShop redisplays the PDF. It appears that there is a problem with the TeXShop editor and PDF viewer being active at the same time. On the whole everything is behaving beautifully with Tiger, and I'm very pleased. However, I attempted to install the iWork '05 demo from the CD that they included with the Tiger install disk, and it keeps crashing mid way through the install. Richard S?guin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From koch at math.uoregon.edu Sun May 1 22:55:14 2005 From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 19:55:14 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 2.00 Bugs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14E49706-CC27-4647-A67D-EA8441B702BF@math.uoregon.edu> Folks, I silently fixed several bugs in TeXShop 2.00; the web contains this fixed version. But there are two really significant remaining bugs: a) After the program typesets and displays the new pdf file, the editor can become inactive for several seconds. On my machine this is intermittent; indeed I thought it was fixed before the release. Other users report that they must kill the program when the ball spins. For me, the spin doesn't occur at all with small documents, often doesn't occur with larger documents, and lasts several seconds. This is completely unacceptable. I'm working on it. b) After a document is typeset, the preview window scrolls to the top of the current page rather than remaining at the exact position it was when the typesetting button was pushed. Unacceptable. I'm working on it. Dick koch at math.uoregon.edu --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From koch at math.uoregon.edu Mon May 2 00:40:24 2005 From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch) Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 21:40:24 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 2.00 Improvement? In-Reply-To: <14E49706-CC27-4647-A67D-EA8441B702BF@math.uoregon.edu> References: <14E49706-CC27-4647-A67D-EA8441B702BF@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: Folks, Obviously, this hasn't been tested very much. But is the TeXShop 2.00 now on the web better in the "beach ball department?" If so, Spotlight was a red herring. Dick koch at math.uregon.edu --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Mon May 2 02:49:52 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:49:52 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] The TeXShop problem on Tiger In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 2 mai 05 ? 04:31, Richard Seguin a ?crit : > On the whole everything is behaving beautifully with Tiger, and I'm > very pleased. However, I attempted to install the iWork '05 demo > from the CD that they included with the Tiger install disk, and it > keeps crashing mid way through the install. I can't report on Tiger vs. TeXShop itself, as I have not yet finished to reinstall/update everything following an Archive & Install of Tiger. But regarding iWork: the retail (not trial) version installs and works OK with Tiger. Possibly the fact that I have also iLife is important here, though I would assume not given iWork is said to take advantage of iLife not require it. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Mon May 2 03:22:47 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:22:47 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] The TeXShop problem on Tiger In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 2, 2005, at 8:49 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > But regarding iWork: the retail (not trial) version installs and > works OK with Tiger. Possibly the fact that I have also iLife is > important here, though I would assume not given iWork is said to > take advantage of iLife not require it. iWork is fine without iLife (I know, iLife is sold out here). The LinkBack[1] plug-in for Keynote[2] has to be seen to be believed, and to keep things on-topic: an Equation Editor that uses it (TeXType[3]). Maarten [1] http://www.linkbackproject.org/ [2] http://commons.ucalgary.ca/~king/projects/keynoteplugins/linkback/ [3] http://homepage.mac.com/yujit_achikawa/textype.html --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From shukla at sissa.it Mon May 2 03:47:50 2005 From: shukla at sissa.it (Mohinish) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 09:47:50 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] makeidx error In-Reply-To: References: <22413.89767@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <04d7a3c5f89f575d571cc0d15d8712ea@sissa.it> To be honest, Im NOT a TeXpert :") Anyhow, I found the apacite - makeidx thing by trial & error (and a zillion typesettings); but I believe that with makeidx you could make several indices; so probably also separate author & general indices, but it'd certainly be more painful than using apacite.. On 2 May 2005, at 3:47 AM, John Vokey wrote: > Aha! That may be important; I will give it a try. Oddly, the > documentation suggests otherwise. What I can't do is not use apacite. > Then again, if I use [nocite] doesn't that imply I can't also have > the author index? Something's not quite right here: Erik Meijer (the > author) is not known for such obvious errors, so I suspect I (we?) > have encountered some other unanticipated package interaction. > > On 1-May-05, at 6:00 PM, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List wrote: > >> Hi >> well, I DO use both apacite as well as indexing, and it works.. below >> the beginning of my preamble (this is for my thesis) >> >> -Mohinish >> >> ps: Ah! I see I've left myself a little note down there saying that >> nocite is needed for makeidx :D >> >> (pps: Theres something funny about the subfigure package.. I dunno if >> this is important.) >> > -- > John R. Vokey, PhD > Professor > B.E.R.G. - Behaviour and Evolution Research Group > Micro-Cognition Laboratory > Department of Psychology & Neuroscience > University of Lethbridge > Lethbridge, Alberta T1K 3M4 > CANADA > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Mon May 2 04:23:37 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:23:37 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] The TeXShop problem on Tiger In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7483AD7E-2B31-4188-935C-7E75F48E876E@mac.com> Le 2 mai 05 ? 09:22, Maarten Sneep a ?crit : > iWork is fine without iLife (I know, iLife is sold out here). The > LinkBack[1] plug-in for Keynote[2] has to be seen to be believed, > and to keep things on-topic: an Equation Editor that uses it > (TeXType[3]). > > Maarten > > [1] http://www.linkbackproject.org/ > [2] http://commons.ucalgary.ca/~king/projects/keynoteplugins/linkback/ > [3] http://homepage.mac.com/yujit_achikawa/textype.html Hi Maarten, Thanks for the info and links. I'd been intending to try TeXType, but put it off due to time constraints and then forgot about it. A question though: it's unclear from these links how the install proceeds. Specifically, [2] mentions adding LinkBack client support to Keynote. Does this mean a server part has to be installed? [1] includes a link to download the LinkBack sources, but apparently neither user-installable component nor instructions about an installation. Bruno --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Mon May 2 04:32:16 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:32:16 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] The TeXShop problem on Tiger In-Reply-To: <7483AD7E-2B31-4188-935C-7E75F48E876E@mac.com> References: <7483AD7E-2B31-4188-935C-7E75F48E876E@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 2, 2005, at 10:23 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 2 mai 05 ? 09:22, Maarten Sneep a ?crit : > >> [1] http://www.linkbackproject.org/ >> [2] http://commons.ucalgary.ca/~king/projects/keynoteplugins/ >> linkback/ >> [3] http://homepage.mac.com/yujit_achikawa/textype.html >> > > A question though: it's unclear from these links how the install > proceeds. Specifically, [2] mentions adding LinkBack client support > to Keynote. Does this mean a server part has to be installed? [2] contains everything you need to add LinkBack support to Keynote. [1] is provided for entertainment/background only. No separate server needs to be installed, the framework is contained within the application, or for Keynote within the plugin bundle. > [1] includes a link to download the LinkBack sources, but > apparently neither user-installable component nor instructions > about an installation. Developers only - add support at the application level, not at the OS level. Really [2] and [3] are all you need. Maarten PS. TeXType contains some bugs at the moment: the default template is not directly editable. I already notified the author. But it does show the potential of the technique. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fstengel at mac.com Mon May 2 04:33:16 2005 From: fstengel at mac.com (Frank STENGEL) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 08:33:16 +0000 Subject: [OS X TeX] The TeXShop problem on Tiger In-Reply-To: <7483AD7E-2B31-4188-935C-7E75F48E876E@mac.com> References: <7483AD7E-2B31-4188-935C-7E75F48E876E@mac.com> Message-ID: Le 2 mai 05 ? 08:23, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > > A question though: it's unclear from these links how the install > proceeds. Specifically, [2] mentions adding LinkBack client support > to Keynote. Does this mean a server part has to be installed? [1] > includes a link to download the LinkBack sources, but apparently > neither user-installable component nor instructions about an > installation. Download the component using the first link in [2]. The installation process actually modifies Keynote.app by adding a Framework (the linkback server?) and another bit of code. So, I think that one has to re-install every time Keynote is upgraded --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Mon May 2 05:43:30 2005 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:43:30 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] makeidx error In-Reply-To: References: <22413.89767@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <20E362A0-F8E3-46BD-AA2B-350349DF8D0E@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Bruno remarks that apacite is calling index.sty. Hence I suggest not to load makeidx, instead simply issue the command \makeindex and rely on index.sty. Claus On May 2, 2005, at 3:47, John Vokey wrote: > Aha! That may be important; I will give it a try. Oddly, the > documentation suggests otherwise. What I can't do is not use > apacite. Then again, if I use [nocite] doesn't that imply I can't > also have the author index? Something's not quite right here: Erik > Meijer (the author) is not known for such obvious errors, so I > suspect I (we?) have encountered some other unanticipated package > interaction. > > On 1-May-05, at 6:00 PM, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List wrote: > > > >> Hi >> well, I DO use both apacite as well as indexing, and it works.. below >> the beginning of my preamble (this is for my thesis) >> >> -Mohinish >> >> ps: Ah! I see I've left myself a little note down there saying that >> nocite is needed for makeidx :D >> >> (pps: Theres something funny about the subfigure package.. I dunno if >> this is important.) >> >> >> > -- > John R. Vokey, PhD > Professor > B.E.R.G. - Behaviour and Evolution Research Group > Micro-Cognition Laboratory > Department of Psychology & Neuroscience > University of Lethbridge > Lethbridge, Alberta T1K 3M4 > CANADA > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From vivrii at gmail.com Mon May 2 06:37:51 2005 From: vivrii at gmail.com (Victor Ivrii) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 06:37:51 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 2.00 Improvement? In-Reply-To: References: <14E49706-CC27-4647-A67D-EA8441B702BF@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <19af8140050502033710bac410@mail.gmail.com> On 5/2/05, Richard Koch wrote: > Folks, > > Obviously, this hasn't been tested very much. But is the TeXShop 2.00 > now > on the web better in the "beach ball department?" > > If so, Spotlight was a red herring. > > So neither version (including the first `black preview' one) gave me no beachball (even for a second) even with 700+ book. So far we have (at least) three versions of TeXShop 2.00 with no documented difference. Would be it possible in the future give them different numbers? Spotlight is not a red herring for sure but it has some problems because it searches as you type and if the typing is too slow Spotlight is going amok. I hope that in 10.4.1 Spotlight preferences will include an option to switch `search as you type' feature off and have a trigger as well as old-fashioned find-file utility (so far I use third party utilities for this). -- ======================== Victor Ivrii, Department of Mathematics, University of Toronto --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From thoeger at fys.ku.dk Mon May 2 07:47:51 2005 From: thoeger at fys.ku.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Th=F8ger_Juul_Thorsen?=) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:47:51 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Apple-logo Message-ID: <42761367.1060803@fys.ku.dk> Is it possible to write the Apple-logo as a glyph in LaTeX, i.e. does any package contain the glyph? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Mon May 2 08:06:09 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 14:06:09 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Apple-logo In-Reply-To: <42761367.1060803@fys.ku.dk> References: <42761367.1060803@fys.ku.dk> Message-ID: On May 2, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Th?ger Juul Thorsen wrote: > Is it possible to write the Apple-logo as a glyph in LaTeX, i.e. > does any package contain the glyph? Yes, you can but it requires some translation of fonts and font installation. It isn't very hard to create a pdf that contains just the symbol, and IIRC, there is a package that contains a lot of these symbols. Long live Spotlight and a local archive of the mailing list: http://homepage.mac.com/herbs2/ (I'm not sure about the apple symbol since there are some rights associated with that). Adam Lindsay wrote a nice piece about that in the MAPS of last spring, but I imagine you don't have it. Besides it was written for Context, so no good here. For those interested: http:// homepage.mac.com/atl/tex/ It isn't very hard to create that pdf: open text edit, and type the symbol: option-shift-K. Save the result as pdf (print to file, I call it apple-symbol-page.pdf to distinguish it from ). translate the pdf into eps with the following ghostscript command. Yes this is a horrible one: gs -dNOPAUSE -dNOCACHE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=epswrite \ -sOutputFile=apple-symbol.eps \ apple-symbol-page.pdf Now you can convert the eps back into pdf, and it shouldn't contain any references to the font itself, it uses the outline instead, and has a tight bounding box. HTMH, Maarten--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bb at creativeeyes.at Mon May 2 08:08:19 2005 From: bb at creativeeyes.at (Bernhard Barkow) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 14:08:19 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Apple-logo In-Reply-To: <42761367.1060803@fys.ku.dk> References: <42761367.1060803@fys.ku.dk> Message-ID: <218b655e9d93f7970e5063ea380e7003@creativeeyes.at> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2. Mai 2005, at 13:47, Th?ger Juul Thorsen wrote: > Is it possible to write the Apple-logo as a glyph in LaTeX, i.e. does > any package contain the glyph? > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > Might be possible in XeTeX; for ordinary LaTeX you could export the glyph as an .eps file (FreeHand, FontForge ?), convert to pdf and then include it in your LaTeX document. But I'm quite certain that someone on this list already did all this work and posted a link some time ago, unfortunately I can't find it right now (something with "applekeys"). Bernhard ____________________________________________________ _________________________________ Bernhard Barkow __ __ __ __ mail bb at creativeeyes.at __ www.creativeeyes.at __ __ Phone +43 699 12660415 __ Fax +43 1 8775334 __ ___________________ gpg key ID _ A89F09C45921020D __ The box said "Use Windows 2000 or better," so I got a Macintosh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCdhg2qJ8JxFkhAg0RAlqrAKDLsJbW8KkNP+9knUJfM5wmLwnClQCfeflR ee+B/hxCmoHxPbBDcBIkSW0= =0+I2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Mon May 2 08:27:58 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 14:27:58 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Apple-logo In-Reply-To: <42761367.1060803@fys.ku.dk> References: <42761367.1060803@fys.ku.dk> Message-ID: <376877D2-FBA6-484F-9684-D3C584397497@mac.com> Le 2 mai 05 ? 13:47, Th?ger Juul Thorsen a ?crit : > Is it possible to write the Apple-logo as a glyph in LaTeX, i.e. > does any package contain the glyph? Given the logo is part of some OS X fonts such as Apple Symbols or Monaco, it is possible to use this glyph in LaTeX with XeTeX. Will Robertson's fontspec package makes its easy. Otherwise you may just do the hard work yourself, as in (to be processed by XeLaTeX): \documentclass{article} \DeclareFontFamily{U}{applsym}{} \DeclareFontShape{U}{applsym}{m}{n}{<-> "Apple\space Symbols"}{} \DeclareTextFontCommand{\applesymbol} {\normalfont\fontencoding{U}\fontfamily{applsym}\selectfont} \DeclareRobustCommand{\applelogo} {\applesymbol{\XeTeXglyph1110}} \DeclareRobustCommand{\applebiglogo} {\applesymbol{\XeTeXglyph1109}} \DeclareRobustCommand{\appleemptylogo} {\applesymbol{\XeTeXglyph1108}} \DeclareRobustCommand{\applestrippedlogo}{\applesymbol{\XeTeXglyph1107}} \begin{document} \begin{center} \applelogo \quad \applebiglogo \quad \appleemptylogo \quad \applestrippedlogo \quad \end{center} \end{document} Hope this helps, Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bkerstetter at mac.com Mon May 2 08:35:16 2005 From: bkerstetter at mac.com (Bob Kerstetter) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 07:35:16 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Apple-logo In-Reply-To: <218b655e9d93f7970e5063ea380e7003@creativeeyes.at> References: <42761367.1060803@fys.ku.dk> <218b655e9d93f7970e5063ea380e7003@creativeeyes.at> Message-ID: <5d86f9c9f63eebf05954ed9684300b57@mac.com> On May 2, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Bernhard Barkow wrote: > On 2. Mai 2005, at 13:47, Th?ger Juul Thorsen wrote: > >> Is it possible to write the Apple-logo as a glyph in LaTeX, i.e. does >> any package contain the glyph? >> --------------------- Info --------------------- >> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ >> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >> List Post: >> >> > > Might be possible in XeTeX; for ordinary LaTeX you could export the > glyph as an .eps file (FreeHand, FontForge ?), convert to pdf and then > include it in your LaTeX document. > > But I'm quite certain that someone on this list already did all this > work and posted a link some time ago, unfortunately I can't find it > right now (something with "applekeys"). Maybe this is it, from Herb Schulz > If anyone downloaded the applekeys package from my site > yesterday there is a revised Power > Key > Symbol that is constructed correctly. I'm just learning how to use > PfaEdit > and the Power Key Symbol is constructed by superimposing two characters > (from the LucidaGrande.dfont Bold Faced Version in this case) which I > didn't > do correctly before. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Mon May 2 08:48:36 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 14:48:36 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] BBEdit & TextWrangler <-> TeX scripts updated Message-ID: <59B1D6AE-625F-49BA-9A9C-7BCC94D146C3@xs4all.nl> Hi, I've updated my scripts (actually, just the engine file) to match the change in TeXShop. You can download my TextWrangler and BBEdit from http://www.nat.vu.nl/~sneep/tex/ Some details: TeXShop previously used a line with: %SourceDoc master.tex to indicate the 'master' document. This didn't cause any harm, but the %&encoding and friends did (or might have). For consistency reasons (and to keep in sync with iTeXMac, I believe), the syntax was changed to: %!TEX root = master.tex Since the previous method (for detecting a master document) is harmless, it is still supported, but the new method is preferred. The other meta-comments are ignored, but you are advised to keep things in sync with the other front-ends. Best wishes, Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Mon May 2 09:13:03 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 08:13:03 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Apple-logo In-Reply-To: <5d86f9c9f63eebf05954ed9684300b57@mac.com> Message-ID: On 5/2/05 7:35 AM, "Bob Kerstetter" wrote: > On May 2, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Bernhard Barkow wrote: > >> On 2. Mai 2005, at 13:47, Th?ger Juul Thorsen wrote: >> >>> Is it possible to write the Apple-logo as a glyph in LaTeX, i.e. does >>> any package contain the glyph? >>> --------------------- Info --------------------- >>> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >>> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ >>> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >>> List Post: >>> >>> >> >> Might be possible in XeTeX; for ordinary LaTeX you could export the >> glyph as an .eps file (FreeHand, FontForge ?), convert to pdf and then >> include it in your LaTeX document. >> >> But I'm quite certain that someone on this list already did all this >> work and posted a link some time ago, unfortunately I can't find it >> right now (something with "applekeys"). > > Maybe this is it, from Herb Schulz > >> If anyone downloaded the applekeys package from my site >> yesterday there is a revised Power >> Key >> Symbol that is constructed correctly. I'm just learning how to use >> PfaEdit >> and the Power Key Symbol is constructed by superimposing two characters >> (from the LucidaGrande.dfont Bold Faced Version in this case) which I >> didn't >> do correctly before. > Howdy, The applekeys package uses pdf (for pdflatex) and eps (for latex) versions of several of Apple's special characters along with the graphicx package. If that is suitable download it from the site mentioned above. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Mon May 2 09:56:56 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 15:56:56 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Questions about cocoAspell installation Message-ID: With the switch to Tiger I would like to install and get cocoAspell to work once and for good (especially since v2b has just been released). However once again the following questions arise: - Is it possible to use cocoAspell for TeX only, with Apple's built- in spell checker being used for anything else (Mail, iWork, etc.). (For me this is a show-stopper, if cocoAspell can't be used for TeX only I won't go further.) - When in TeX, how to make sure cocoAspell is indeed used? By checking the TeX/LaTeX filter in the Spelling system pref? I remember vaguely something in the past about the fact that checking this item wasn't persistent, or something like this. Is this problem still there? - How is it possible to get info about the characteristics of the dictionaries. On top of the default English dictionaries, I only installed the French ones. However, in the list of available dictionaries there are for examples *9* items all called exactly "English (United Kingdom)". How is it possible to know the differences between each item. Similarly, in the list of available French dictionaries there are 12 items: French [40] French [60] French [80] French French (Switzerland) [40] French (Switzerland) [60] French (Switzerland) [80] French (Switzerland) French (France) [40] French (France) [60] French (France) [80] French (France) How can we know what the differences are? The various files in the doc directory of the dictionary are absolutely unhelpful. It seems 40 is equivalent to small, 60 to medium and 80 to large, but what does this mean? Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macmechanic at fastmail.fm Mon May 2 10:13:02 2005 From: macmechanic at fastmail.fm (Rene Borgella) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 10:13:02 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTexiT Message-ID: Don't know anything about this, but just saw a link to it and thought some of you may be interested. Looks like LaTeX Equation Editor to me. rene --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Mon May 2 10:38:24 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 16:38:24 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTexiT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 2 mai 05 ? 16:13, Rene Borgella a ?crit : > Don't know anything about this, but just saw a link to it and > thought some of you may be interested. Looks like LaTeX Equation > Editor to me. > > Indeed the looks are pretty much the same. In the README the author acknowledges this: > What is LaTeXiT ? > > LaTeXiT is a little utility designed to quickly typeset LaTeX > equations and drag'n drop them into other applications. > > However, it is fair to tell that is is heavily inspired from the > remarkable LaTeX Equation Editor by J. McKenzie Alexander. In fact, > I missed some features in this application, so I have decided to > create a new one. LaTeXiT is not based on Latex Equation Editor, it > is simply largely inspired of. So, do not be surprised to notice > similar behaviours about the way that LaTeX is silently called by > the program. I don't know whether LaTeXiT uses portions of code from LaTeX Equation Editor. If it does, there might be licensing issues: LaTeXiT isn't GPL'd (nor is the source code available), whereas LaTeX Equation Editor acknowledges using code from Equation Service: > Portions of the LaTeX Equation Editor include code and algorithms > from Doug Rowland's Equation Services (particular the portions > which support saving the source inside the PDF file). which itself is GPL'd. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Mon May 2 10:54:57 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 09:54:57 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Questions about cocoAspell installation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/2/05 8:56 AM, "Bruno Voisin" wrote: > > - Is it possible to use cocoAspell for TeX only, with Apple's built- > in spell checker being used for anything else (Mail, iWork, etc.). > (For me this is a show-stopper, if cocoAspell can't be used for TeX > only I won't go further.) > Howdy, Since this appears to be a show stopper for you I guess I'll just start answering this one. It appears, at least in 10.3.9, that once chosen in one application (via choosing the dictionary) CocoAspell 2.0 still is chosen everywhere. If I change the dictionary in BBEdit and go back to TeXShop the new dictionary is chosen there (i.e., no longer aspell) too. Sigh... This looks like an OS thing, not an CocoAspell thing. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From thoeger at fys.ku.dk Mon May 2 11:02:57 2005 From: thoeger at fys.ku.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Th=F8ger_Juul_Thorsen?=) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 17:02:57 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Apple-logo In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42764121.7010306@fys.ku.dk> Thanx for a lot of fast, helpful advise! /Th?ger Herb Schulz wrote: >On 5/2/05 7:35 AM, "Bob Kerstetter" wrote: > > > >>On May 2, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Bernhard Barkow wrote: >> >> >> >>>On 2. Mai 2005, at 13:47, Th?ger Juul Thorsen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Is it possible to write the Apple-logo as a glyph in LaTeX, i.e. does >>>>any package contain the glyph? >>>>--------------------- Info --------------------- >>>>Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >>>> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ >>>>TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >>>>List Post: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Might be possible in XeTeX; for ordinary LaTeX you could export the >>>glyph as an .eps file (FreeHand, FontForge ?), convert to pdf and then >>>include it in your LaTeX document. >>> >>>But I'm quite certain that someone on this list already did all this >>>work and posted a link some time ago, unfortunately I can't find it >>>right now (something with "applekeys"). >>> >>> >>Maybe this is it, from Herb Schulz >> >> >> >>>If anyone downloaded the applekeys package from my site >>> yesterday there is a revised Power >>>Key >>>Symbol that is constructed correctly. I'm just learning how to use >>>PfaEdit >>>and the Power Key Symbol is constructed by superimposing two characters >>>(from the LucidaGrande.dfont Bold Faced Version in this case) which I >>>didn't >>>do correctly before. >>> >>> > >Howdy, > >The applekeys package uses pdf (for pdflatex) and eps (for latex) versions >of several of Apple's special characters along with the graphicx package. If >that is suitable download it from the site mentioned above. > >Good Luck, > >Herb Schulz >(herbs at wideopenwest.com) > >--------------------- Info --------------------- >Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ >TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >List Post: > > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Mon May 2 11:17:27 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:17:27 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Questions about cocoAspell installation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <907D982F-A236-4E41-B752-2372AD957A4C@mac.com> Le 2 mai 05 ? 16:54, Herb Schulz a ?crit : > Since this appears to be a show stopper for you I guess I'll just > start > answering this one. It appears, at least in 10.3.9, that once > chosen in one > application (via choosing the dictionary) CocoAspell 2.0 still is > chosen > everywhere. If I change the dictionary in BBEdit and go back to > TeXShop the > new dictionary is chosen there (i.e., no longer aspell) too. Sigh... > > This looks like an OS thing, not an CocoAspell thing. Hi Herb, Actually what you're saying is good news. I feared that once cocoAspell was installed only cocoAspell dictionaries became available in OS X, and that cocoAspell had to be uninstalled first for the OS X dictionaries to be seen again. If I understand correctly what you're saying -- and this is indeed what I'm verifying in the Spelling panel, I should have looked first --, all dictionaries (from both OS X and cocoAspell) are available simultaneously, and the only thing is that once a dictionary is selected (be it from OS X or cocoAspell) it remains the default for all applications until a new one is checked in any application. This is not a problem: for example, in Mail I am all the time writing messages in either French or English, and changing dictionary in the Spelling panel accordingly (except when I'm lazy or in a rush and just ignore the red underlinings everywhere). And regarding my other criticism, about the 9 English dictionaries with exactly the same name, I realized afterwards that, in the Spelling system pref panel, the Name field for each dictionary contains a few more letters (like [ize-wo_accents]) with meaning explained inside /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/aspell6-en-6.0-0/doc/ extra.txt /Library/Application Support/cocoAspell/aspell6-en-6.0-0/README The only problem then is that the Name field isn't long enough for these supplementary letters to be seen but the first ones. Again, this limitation can be circumvented by pressing the button "About this dictionary?": this open a panel with title the full name of the dictionary. However for the French dictionaries that doesn't help, as there simply seems to be no explanation at all to be displayed, anywhere. But in any case that looks promising. Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Mon May 2 11:32:56 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:32:56 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Questions about cocoAspell installation In-Reply-To: <907D982F-A236-4E41-B752-2372AD957A4C@mac.com> Message-ID: On 5/2/05 10:17 AM, "Bruno Voisin" wrote: > Le 2 mai 05 ? 16:54, Herb Schulz a ?crit : > >> Since this appears to be a show stopper for you I guess I'll just >> start >> answering this one. It appears, at least in 10.3.9, that once >> chosen in one >> application (via choosing the dictionary) CocoAspell 2.0 still is >> chosen >> everywhere. If I change the dictionary in BBEdit and go back to >> TeXShop the >> new dictionary is chosen there (i.e., no longer aspell) too. Sigh... >> >> This looks like an OS thing, not an CocoAspell thing. > > Hi Herb, > > Actually what you're saying is good news. I feared that once > cocoAspell was installed only cocoAspell dictionaries became > available in OS X, and that cocoAspell had to be uninstalled first > for the OS X dictionaries to be seen again. > > If I understand correctly what you're saying -- and this is indeed > what I'm verifying in the Spelling panel, I should have looked first > --, all dictionaries (from both OS X and cocoAspell) are available > simultaneously, and the only thing is that once a dictionary is > selected (be it from OS X or cocoAspell) it remains the default for > all applications until a new one is checked in any application. This > is not a problem: for example, in Mail I am all the time writing > messages in either French or English, and changing dictionary in the > Spelling panel accordingly (except when I'm lazy or in a rush and > just ignore the red underlinings everywhere). > ... Howdy, That is what I meant; your interpretation is correct. I think the old version had trouble if you had more than one filter checked. I haven't checked if there is still a problem with this one. So far 2.0b is working quite well for me. Hope you solve the French dictionary problem. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Mon May 2 12:55:38 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 18:55:38 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTexiT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8FCF0541-1F20-49BB-832D-523962AAEC21@xs4all.nl> Hi, On May 2, 2005, at 4:38 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > I don't know whether LaTeXiT uses portions of code from LaTeX > Equation Editor. If it does, there might be licensing issues: > LaTeXiT isn't GPL'd (nor is the source code available), whereas > LaTeX Equation Editor acknowledges using code from Equation Service: > > >> Portions of the LaTeX Equation Editor include code and algorithms >> from Doug Rowland's Equation Services (particular the portions >> which support saving the source inside the PDF file). >> > > which itself is GPL'd. Indeed. It would be pretty hard to figure out if LaTeXiT indeed *uses* code from the other two/three LaTeX based Equation Editors. It would be nasty if it does, but I'm not prepared to accuse this guy before we have solid evidence (which we do *not* have). What I'm more worried about is the lack of cooperation between the various authors. I can understand that there are different opinions on the exact looks and behaviour of the application, but these applications all are very similar (If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, you know, it might just *be* a duck). At the moment it seems that TeXType is nice in that is offers LinkBack support, although there is room for improvement in many other ways. the others each have their strengths and weaknesses (and each having good ideas on how to move forward) as well. Yet none - as far as I can see at the moment - are moving in any spectacular fashion. It seems such a waste of time and effort to have *yet* another tool trying to come up with another `duck'. Why, oh why couldn't this author just contact Jason, or any of the others and just contribute/change what they didn't like. Bruno, your French is better than mine [understatement of the year]. Could you contact this author, and ask about the *why*. OK, Maarten: calm down, \end{rant}. Instead of four tools that may *just* be good enough, I'd rather have a single tool that is way beyond what is there now. `Must have' features include: - LinkBack support - Baseline correction - Support for multi-line equations (support for a baseline offset can be dropped from those cases: anyone have a clue how to even *define* a baseline in that case?) - colour support, with a background that chooses an automatic contrasting colour to keep things visible. I've has contact with three out of four of the authors, and offered suggestions on how to run the translation in pdflatex alone (which would speed things up, at least a little bit), and as a bonus extracts the baseline offset as well[*]. Doug Rowland had some ideas on resolving the baseline issue in Keynote, Pages, etc., but he is tied up in other business. Maarten [*] Unfortunately this doesn't work with multi-line equations at all, there we need to rely on several external tools, although the new bits in Cocoa (PDFKit) may help. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From onur.baser at mac.com Mon May 2 13:09:56 2005 From: onur.baser at mac.com (Onur Baser) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 13:09:56 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] typeset simultaneously In-Reply-To: <42764121.7010306@fys.ku.dk> References: <42764121.7010306@fys.ku.dk> Message-ID: <79f62c0ac26ac5569f1737df1e3cbc31@mac.com> I am new in mac version of tex. One of my friend told me it is possible to typeset simultaneously. If I want to have two windows on my screen: one is texshop the other one is pdf version output, is it possible to change something in the texshop and see the change in output pdf file at the same time? How can I do this? I know this was not possible in pc version. Thanks, Onur On May 2, 2005, at 11:02 AM, Th?ger Juul Thorsen wrote: > Thanx for a lot of fast, helpful advise! > > /Th?ger > > Herb Schulz wrote: > >> On 5/2/05 7:35 AM, "Bob Kerstetter" wrote: >> >> >>> On May 2, 2005, at 7:08 AM, Bernhard Barkow wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On 2. Mai 2005, at 13:47, Th?ger Juul Thorsen wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Is it possible to write the Apple-logo as a glyph in LaTeX, i.e. >>>>> does >>>>> any package contain the glyph? >>>>> --------------------- Info --------------------- >>>>> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >>>>> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ >>>>> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >>>>> List Post: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Might be possible in XeTeX; for ordinary LaTeX you could export the >>>> glyph as an .eps file (FreeHand, FontForge ?), convert to pdf and >>>> then >>>> include it in your LaTeX document. >>>> >>>> But I'm quite certain that someone on this list already did all this >>>> work and posted a link some time ago, unfortunately I can't find it >>>> right now (something with "applekeys"). >>>> >>> Maybe this is it, from Herb Schulz >>> >>> >>>> If anyone downloaded the applekeys package from my site >>>> yesterday there is a revised Power >>>> Key >>>> Symbol that is constructed correctly. I'm just learning how to use >>>> PfaEdit >>>> and the Power Key Symbol is constructed by superimposing two >>>> characters >>>> (from the LucidaGrande.dfont Bold Faced Version in this case) which >>>> I >>>> didn't >>>> do correctly before. >>>> >> >> Howdy, >> >> The applekeys package uses pdf (for pdflatex) and eps (for latex) >> versions >> of several of Apple's special characters along with the graphicx >> package. If >> that is suitable download it from the site mentioned above. >> >> Good Luck, >> >> Herb Schulz >> (herbs at wideopenwest.com) >> >> --------------------- Info --------------------- >> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ >> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >> List Post: >> >> >> >> > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From simon at simifilm.ch Mon May 2 16:09:59 2005 From: simon at simifilm.ch (Simon Spiegel) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 22:09:59 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger, PDF and embedded QT files Message-ID: <8CDF3B5D-2843-4EF6-9186-6801CFA88333@simifilm.ch> Something for the PDF gurus on the list I have a pdf file with an embedded QT movie (created easymovie, the QT file is 3ivx encoded and plays nicely with QT player). ON 10.3.x the only app which could show this movie properly was Acrobat (resp. Adobe Reader). Now, with Tiger I expected that also Preview would be able to do so. To my big surprise Preview fails to display anyting, instead of the movie it just shows a gray square. To my even bigger surprise, Adobe Reader (and Acrobat Pro) also fail to display the movie on Tiger. They both show the poster image properly, but when I want to play the movie, I get a requester telling me that I should install the proper media player. The app then takes me to Apple's side to download Quicktime. So what's going on here? Can Preview display embedded movies? Doesn't Acrobat interact with QT7? Insights aprreciated. simon -- Simon Spiegel Mutschellenstr. 97 8038 Z?rich Telephon: ++41 43 535 81 71 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch "I have never been certain that the moral of the Icarus myth is, as is generally accepted, 'don't fly too high', or whether it might also be thought of as: 'forget about the wax and feathers, and do a better job on the wings." Stanley Kubrick --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From riseguin at earthlink.net Mon May 2 17:47:07 2005 From: riseguin at earthlink.net (Richard Seguin) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 16:47:07 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] The TeXShop problem on Tiger In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F69C77F-2522-4B67-AA83-A8A87D0EF1FA@earthlink.net> On May 2, 2005, at 1:49 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 2 mai 05 ? 04:31, Richard Seguin a ?crit : > > >> On the whole everything is behaving beautifully with Tiger, and >> I'm very pleased. However, I attempted to install the iWork '05 >> demo from the CD that they included with the Tiger install disk, >> and it keeps crashing mid way through the install. >> > > I can't report on Tiger vs. TeXShop itself, as I have not yet > finished to reinstall/update everything following an Archive & > Install of Tiger. But regarding iWork: the retail (not trial) > version installs and works OK with Tiger. Possibly the fact that I > have also iLife is important here, though I would assume not given > iWork is said to take advantage of iLife not require it. Just before bed time last night I tried installing iWork again, only this time from an external CD drive rather than my Powerbook's internal drive. I also temporarily turned off Spotlight wondering if that could have been a problem. This time it did install with no problems. I should know better than not to change more than one variable at a time, but it was getting late, and I was tired and impatient, so I'll never know for sure which change solved the problem. Richard S?guin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From onur.baser at mac.com Mon May 2 17:54:21 2005 From: onur.baser at mac.com (Onur Baser) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:54:21 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTexiT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <347b0f6199a57336c85e9c79b29f46ca@mac.com> I could not make this work with word. It is transmitting just block box. Did you have the same problems. On May 2, 2005, at 10:38 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 2 mai 05 ? 16:13, Rene Borgella a ?crit : > >> Don't know anything about this, but just saw a link to it and >> thought some of you may be interested. Looks like LaTeX Equation >> Editor to me. >> >> > > Indeed the looks are pretty much the same. In the README the author > acknowledges this: > >> What is LaTeXiT ? >> >> LaTeXiT is a little utility designed to quickly typeset LaTeX >> equations and drag'n drop them into other applications. >> >> However, it is fair to tell that is is heavily inspired from the >> remarkable LaTeX Equation Editor by J. McKenzie Alexander. In fact, I >> missed some features in this application, so I have decided to create >> a new one. LaTeXiT is not based on Latex Equation Editor, it is >> simply largely inspired of. So, do not be surprised to notice similar >> behaviours about the way that LaTeX is silently called by the >> program. > > I don't know whether LaTeXiT uses portions of code from LaTeX Equation > Editor. If it does, there might be licensing issues: LaTeXiT isn't > GPL'd (nor is the source code available), whereas LaTeX Equation > Editor acknowledges using code from Equation Service: > >> Portions of the LaTeX Equation Editor include code and algorithms >> from Doug Rowland's Equation Services (particular the portions which >> support saving the source inside the PDF file). > > which itself is GPL'd. > > Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fcnpereira at mac.com Mon May 2 18:06:23 2005 From: fcnpereira at mac.com (Fernando Pereira) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 18:06:23 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 2.00 Improvement? In-Reply-To: References: <14E49706-CC27-4647-A67D-EA8441B702BF@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: On May 2, 2005, at 12:40 AM, Richard Koch wrote: > Obviously, this hasn't been tested very much. But is the TeXShop > 2.00 now > on the web better in the "beach ball department?" Before the silent update, I was getting the spinning ball for several seconds after typesetting a 12 page document. Now I see no spinning ball at all. Thanks for the fix! Just let me add my support for the request that there be no silent requests. A bNN suffix could be used to indicate a new version under fast development (beta) as many other developers do. Thanks again. -- F --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From whrose at gmail.com Mon May 2 18:10:57 2005 From: whrose at gmail.com (Wolter Rose) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 00:10:57 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] invalid character error message Message-ID: <47c3659105050215106c5e6e3d@mail.gmail.com> I have a document with this preamble: %===== ====== ====== ===== ====== ====== ===== ====== ====== --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From whrose at gmail.com Mon May 2 18:19:01 2005 From: whrose at gmail.com (Wolter Rose) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 00:19:01 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: invalid character error message In-Reply-To: <47c365910505021518a862064@mail.gmail.com> References: <47c3659105050215106c5e6e3d@mail.gmail.com> <47c3659105050215147bd2d222@mail.gmail.com> <47c365910505021518a862064@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47c3659105050215197513c1bc@mail.gmail.com> I give up. Apologies for mixing up so badly. On 5/3/05, Wolter Rose wrote: > For some reason GMail is acting up. I try once more. > > I have a document with this preamble: > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From whrose at gmail.com Mon May 2 18:26:02 2005 From: whrose at gmail.com (Wolter Rose) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 00:26:02 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: invalid character error message In-Reply-To: <47c3659105050215197513c1bc@mail.gmail.com> References: <47c3659105050215106c5e6e3d@mail.gmail.com> <47c3659105050215147bd2d222@mail.gmail.com> <47c365910505021518a862064@mail.gmail.com> <47c3659105050215197513c1bc@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47c36591050502152650ea25a1@mail.gmail.com> OK, I tried to include the preamble for the sake of completeness but GMail screwed up. Anyway I have a document which I texed under Panther with no problem. Now under Tiger and TeXShop 2.0 I get this error: This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) output format initialized to PDF entering extended mode (./WebLinks.tex LaTeX2e <2003/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, british, dutch, nohyphenat ion, loaded. ! Text line contains an invalid character. l.1 ^^@ \^^@d^^@o^^@c^^@u^^@m^^@e^^@n^^@t^^@c^^@l^^@a^^@s^^@s^^@[^^@1^^@2^^@p... ? Any thoughts on what is going on here are appreciated. Wolter Rose --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jonathan_kew at sil.org Mon May 2 18:35:56 2005 From: jonathan_kew at sil.org (Jonathan Kew) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 23:35:56 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: invalid character error message In-Reply-To: <47c36591050502152650ea25a1@mail.gmail.com> References: <47c3659105050215106c5e6e3d@mail.gmail.com> <47c3659105050215147bd2d222@mail.gmail.com> <47c365910505021518a862064@mail.gmail.com> <47c3659105050215197513c1bc@mail.gmail.com> <47c36591050502152650ea25a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2 May 2005, at 11:26 pm, Wolter Rose wrote: > OK, I tried to include the preamble for the sake of completeness but > GMail screwed up. Anyway I have a document which I texed under Panther > with no problem. Now under Tiger and TeXShop 2.0 I get this error: > > This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) > output format initialized to PDF > entering extended mode > (./WebLinks.tex > LaTeX2e <2003/12/01> > Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, british, dutch, > nohyphenat > ion, loaded. > ! Text line contains an invalid character. > l.1 ^^@ > > \^^@d^^@o^^@c^^@u^^@m^^@e^^@n^^@t^^@c^^@l^^@a^^@s^^@s^^@[^^@1^^@2^^@p.. > . > > ? > > > Any thoughts on what is going on here are appreciated. Your document has been saved as Unicode (UTF-16) by whatever application you've opened/edited it with, and pdfetex doesn't understand this; it's reading the individual bytes of the 16-bit Unicode values, and every other one is a null (zero) byte, whose TeX \catcode is "invalid" (by default). You probably want to change the default document encoding in TeXShop's Preferences to something more appropriate (if you want Unicode, UTF-8 is the appropriate encoding form to choose). JK --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Mon May 2 18:39:34 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 00:39:34 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTexiT In-Reply-To: <347b0f6199a57336c85e9c79b29f46ca@mac.com> References: <347b0f6199a57336c85e9c79b29f46ca@mac.com> Message-ID: <347D3CDA-F506-4F57-99E4-1F84CB082330@xs4all.nl> On May 2, 2005, at 11:54 PM, Onur Baser wrote: > I could not make this work with word. It is transmitting just block > box. Did you have the same problems. Don't have word. Word has serious issues with including PDF. Try a program that will accept pdf: TextEdit comes to mind. I tried it with Create, and that works. It is pretty close to a mirror image of the LaTeX Equation editor. Why, oh why this duplication, where cooperation and progress is needed. Before I wrote my rant I hadn't really usedthe application, I just read the read-me and played a bit with it. Now that I used it a little, it becomes obvious how close it is to LEE, including the library. It more or less looks like an Aqua version of LEE. sigh, Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From riseguin at earthlink.net Mon May 2 18:56:36 2005 From: riseguin at earthlink.net (Richard Seguin) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:56:36 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 2.00 Improvement? In-Reply-To: References: <14E49706-CC27-4647-A67D-EA8441B702BF@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: Yes, I'm not seeing the beach ball at all now. Good job Dick! Richard On May 1, 2005, at 11:40 PM, Richard Koch wrote: > Folks, > > Obviously, this hasn't been tested very much. But is the TeXShop > 2.00 now > on the web better in the "beach ball department?" > > If so, Spotlight was a red herring. > > Dick > koch at math.uregon.edu > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From whrose at gmail.com Mon May 2 19:22:07 2005 From: whrose at gmail.com (Wolter Rose) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 01:22:07 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: invalid character error message In-Reply-To: References: <47c3659105050215106c5e6e3d@mail.gmail.com> <47c3659105050215147bd2d222@mail.gmail.com> <47c365910505021518a862064@mail.gmail.com> <47c3659105050215197513c1bc@mail.gmail.com> <47c36591050502152650ea25a1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47c3659105050216227381857a@mail.gmail.com> > Your document has been saved as Unicode (UTF-16) by whatever > application you've opened/edited it with The document is generated by an AppleScript. Apparently opening access to a file, writing to the file and then closing it, under 10.4 saves the file as a Unicode document, which was not the way things were under 10.3. Thanks for your help, I now have been able to idenity the problem. Wolter --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From banuelos at math.purdue.edu Mon May 2 20:26:09 2005 From: banuelos at math.purdue.edu (Rodrigo Banuelos) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 19:26:09 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop 2.00 Bugs In-Reply-To: <8813.74445@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <8813.74445@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <00BEEF68-8018-42F9-BCAB-0F45DDB0F745@math.purdue.edu> Dear Dick and others, The spinning beach ball problem seems to have disappeared from my system after installing the latest Texshop. I don't know if the problem is permanently fixed but I cannot make the ball spin anymore even with very large (300 pages) files. Rodrigo On May 2, 2005, at 7:00 PM, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List wrote: > > Folks, > > I silently fixed several bugs in TeXShop 2.00; the web contains this > fixed version. > But there are two really significant remaining bugs: > > a) After the program typesets and displays the new pdf file, the > editor can become > inactive for several seconds. On my machine this is > intermittent; indeed I thought > it was fixed before the release. Other users report that they > must kill the program > when the ball spins. For me, the spin doesn't occur at all with > small > documents, often doesn't occur with larger documents, and lasts > several > seconds. > > This is completely unacceptable. > > I'm working on it. > > b) After a document is typeset, the preview window scrolls to > the top of the current page > rather than remaining at the exact position it was when the > typesetting button > was pushed. > > Unacceptable. > > I'm working on it. > > Dick > koch at math.uoregon.edu > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Mon May 2 22:04:06 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 19:04:06 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers Message-ID: Hi all, I wrote a couple of Spotlight importers that people may find useful. BibImporter (for BibTeX files), and DVIImporter (reads text of DVI files). In my testing, they work fine, but let me know of any problems (crashes or memory leaks). Source is available on request; DVIImporter has dvi2tty from gwTeX bundled with it. The importers are available at , and can be installed in ~/Library/Spotlight or /Library/Spotlight. You can force Spotlight to index your teTeX tree with `mdimport -f / usr/local/teTeX` in Terminal, and the DVI importer should give you access to the contents of the DVI documentation files from Spotlight, while Apple's importers will index the others. If you read the bibdesk-users list and installed a previous version of my BibImporter plugin, please reinstall from the above URL. regards, Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From sick at ucalgary.ca Mon May 2 22:07:37 2005 From: sick at ucalgary.ca (Gordon Sick) Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 20:07:37 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] The Application LaTeXit, Illustrator and Lucida Fonts Message-ID: <6F70165D-F25D-4BAB-8D2B-B8BBEE83EB8F@ucalgary.ca> I just tried the new application LaTeXit http://ktd.club.fr/programmation/latexit_en.php I found that it solves my problem of not being able to properly import Latex equations and so forth into Adobe Illustrator X. This will allow me to label figures with equations. Yeah! The only catch is that I find that I can't change the preamble in LaTeXit to use my Lucida fonts, for which I would normally put in my preamble \usepackage[LY1]{fontenc} \usepackage[expert,altbullet]{lucidabr} I've tried putting it at the beginning of the preamble, the end and right after the ams font definitions, eg. \usepackage{amssymb} %maths \usepackage{amsmath} %maths \usepackage[LY1]{fontenc} \usepackage[expert,altbullet]{lucidabr} \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc} %useful to type directly accentuated characters \pagestyle{empty} The fonts reside in my library ~/Library and it all works properly with TexShop. Somehow I suspect that LaTeXit isn't finding my fonts, so I suspect it isn't a LaTeXit problem but the way I'm calling it. I'd be grateful for any suggestions. --cheers, Gordon --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk Tue May 3 01:29:01 2005 From: Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk (Ralph Martin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 06:29:01 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3 May 2005, at 3:04 am, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > I wrote a couple of Spotlight importers that people may find > useful. BibImporter (for BibTeX files), and DVIImporter (reads > text of DVI files). In my testing, they work fine, but let me know > of any problems (crashes or memory leaks). > You can force Spotlight to index your teTeX tree with `mdimport -f / > usr/local/teTeX` in Terminal, and the DVI importer should give you > access to the contents of the DVI documentation files from > Spotlight, while Apple's importers will index the others. Great work! A couple of issues: (1) I get various errors while processing /usr/local/tetex - see below. These may be problems with files rather than the importer - I am unsure. (2) Am I right in presuming that if I want to use these to process all bibtex and dvi files in dirs within my home dir, I need `mdimport -f ~myusername`? Or will this be done automatically? Errors include various ones like: 2005-05-03 06:23:12.298 mdimport[470] -[FileProcessor importMetadataFromFileAtPath:] Got exception *** -[NSCFArray addObject:]: attempt to insert nil for path '/usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.tetex/doc/latex/amscls/jr.bib' and Expected integer; found `n' instead. Missing or invalid generation number. missing or invalid cross-reference stream. Invalid stream length 547; should be 546. and PSSniffer error: No such file or directory Best wishes Ralph -- Prof Ralph Martin Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536 School of Computer Science Fax: +44(0)29 2087 4598 Cardiff University Email: mailto:ralph at cs.cf.ac.uk 5 The Parade, Roath WWW: http://ralph.cs.cf.ac.uk/ Cardiff, CF24 3AA, United Kingdom VOIP: sip:rrmwork at iptel.org --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 3 02:42:32 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 08:42:32 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Equation editors Message-ID: <9E5EB41B-B88D-4BCB-93E9-39769B7985B9@mac.com> Being on the Pages and Keynote forums for another reason (looking for a way to get rid of the two Help menus appearing in both Pages and Keynote after installing Tiger, and apparently triggered by the presence of DivX), I found a thread "Scientific writing" asking for ways to write equations in Pages, and contributed to it by mentioning the 4 LaTeX equation editors I'm aware of (Equation Service, LaTeX Equation Editor, LaTeXiT and TeXType). Since I'm not a daily user of equation editors, I may have posted incorrect information. Please feel free to go ahead and contribute to that thread. Two related questions: - The TeXType URL doesn't seem to be working anymore. - Is there a specific location for Keynote plugins (for example inside /Library/Application Support/iWork/), other than inside the application itself? I've not installed TeXType so far, as I'm reluctant to install the LinkBack plugin which apparently has to go inside this application, which I'm not willing to modify. Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 3 03:03:47 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:03:47 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Equation editors In-Reply-To: <9E5EB41B-B88D-4BCB-93E9-39769B7985B9@mac.com> References: <9E5EB41B-B88D-4BCB-93E9-39769B7985B9@mac.com> Message-ID: <740255EE-9A00-4A1F-AB9F-9B4250FDDB56@mac.com> Le 3 mai 05 ? 08:42, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > - The TeXType URL textype.html> doesn't seem to be working anymore. Well it seems Safari saves the HTML file textype.html on disk instead of displaying it. Odd! Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Tue May 3 03:50:08 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:50:08 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Equation editors In-Reply-To: <9E5EB41B-B88D-4BCB-93E9-39769B7985B9@mac.com> References: <9E5EB41B-B88D-4BCB-93E9-39769B7985B9@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 3, 2005, at 8:42 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > - The TeXType URL textype.html> doesn't seem to be working anymore. Works for me (with Safari) > > - Is there a specific location for Keynote plugins (for example > inside /Library/Application Support/iWork/), other than inside the > application itself? I've not installed TeXType so far, as I'm > reluctant to install the LinkBack plugin which apparently has to go > inside this application, which I'm not willing to modify. As far as I know, Apple never intended the availability for plugins in iWork. So it is a bit of a hack. I can assure you that the combination works remarkably well. If it fails, you could just remove the application and re-install, right? Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 3 03:57:29 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 09:57:29 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 3 mai 05 ? 04:04, Adam R. Maxwell a ?crit : > I wrote a couple of Spotlight importers that people may find > useful. BibImporter (for BibTeX files), and DVIImporter (reads > text of DVI files). In my testing, they work fine, but let me know > of any problems (crashes or memory leaks). Source is available on > request; DVIImporter has dvi2tty from gwTeX bundled with it. > > The importers are available at , > and can be installed in ~/Library/Spotlight or /Library/Spotlight. > You can force Spotlight to index your teTeX tree with `mdimport -f / > usr/local/teTeX` in Terminal, and the DVI importer should give you > access to the contents of the DVI documentation files from > Spotlight, while Apple's importers will index the others. > > If you read the bibdesk-users list and installed a previous version > of my BibImporter plugin, please reinstall from the above URL. Seems very useful, and brings more general questions about SpotLight which I couldn't find addressed in either OS X help or at Apple's more technical page : - Is there an interface anywhere in Tiger to define when the SpotLight database is built, and to know when it's being built? I seem to remember seeing a dialog, immediately after installing Tiger, telling the SpotLight database was built every 30 minutes, but I can't find now where this is defined. Also, very often since installing Tiger I hear the fans of my PowerBook spinning and spinning and spinning, with no apparent reason, but can't see anything happening in either Activity Monitor or with "top" in Terminal. I imagine this is caused by SpotLight rebuilding its database. - Aren't hidden directories like /usr/local/teTeX searched automatically when building the SpotLight database? - Given the files in this directory are generally owned by root (depending on whether or not you stuck to the default setting when installing the TeX i-Package), should mdimport be sudo'ed? And getting OT, for those that might be interested: - I just noticed this morning on MacNN that Wolfram Research has already released a SpotLight module for Mathematica notebooks . I just hope it works with Mathematica 4! - There's also a SpotLight module for NeoOffice (the Java-based OS X port of Openoffice.org), but it seems so early in its development and the instructions for installing it seem so complicated that I'll wait until it matures. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From pmccann at gmail.com Tue May 3 04:09:41 2005 From: pmccann at gmail.com (Paul McCann) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 17:39:41 +0930 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TeXShop 2.00 Bugs In-Reply-To: <00BEEF68-8018-42F9-BCAB-0F45DDB0F745@math.purdue.edu> References: <8813.74445@email.esm.psu.edu> <00BEEF68-8018-42F9-BCAB-0F45DDB0F745@math.purdue.edu> Message-ID: Hi, Is anyone else seeing the drag and drop oddities with TeXShop 2.0 that I'm experiencing? In particular, it doesn't seem to work! The cursor tracks to the proposed drop area in the usual way but the payload isn't transferred, either with or without the option key held down. (ie copied or moved). For the record: I'm on 10.4 (obviously) with a download of TeXShop from versiontracker about 30 minutes ago. Cheers, Paul --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Tue May 3 04:33:17 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:33:17 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <941BF7F9-A77C-4E6C-819C-27C553012D98@xs4all.nl> On May 3, 2005, at 9:57 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Seems very useful, and brings more general questions about > SpotLight which I couldn't find addressed in either OS X help or at > Apple's more technical page spotlight.html>: I can recommend the article over on Ars Technica [1], it contains a good description on SpotLight. [1] http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/macosx-10.4.ars > - Is there an interface anywhere in Tiger to define when the > SpotLight database is built, and to know when it's being built? I > seem to remember seeing a dialog, immediately after installing > Tiger, telling the SpotLight database was built every 30 minutes, > but I can't find now where this is defined. Also, very often since > installing Tiger I hear the fans of my PowerBook spinning and > spinning and spinning, with no apparent reason, but can't see > anything happening in either Activity Monitor or with "top" in > Terminal. I imagine this is caused by SpotLight rebuilding its > database. SpotLight doesn't rebuild the database. After installation of Tiger, each file write operation will cause that file to be re-indexed, which keeps the database in sync at all times. This is actually done at the Kernel level (so there are no ways around this. Experiment: create a smart folder which has all files in it that contain 'blauwbilgorgel'. It is rather unlikely that you have a file with that in it (although this mail might appear in that smart folder right away). Keep the smart folder open. Now create a new, empty text file, copy'n'paste the word in that new file and save it somewhere. The file should immediately appear in the smart folder. Of course some files may have ended up on disk slightly differently, and for those files a separate (low priority) process is run. This is probably a rare occurence, FireWire target disk mode with a pre-Tiger OS comes to mind, or a removable disk that is used with other systems. Unlikely for your main drive. Of course there originally was a huge number of files on the drive that wasn't indexed. Depending on hte number of files, the indexing process may take several hours, but I guess you're past that now. > - Aren't hidden directories like /usr/local/teTeX searched > automatically when building the SpotLight database? I'm not sure if the hidden directories are indexed by default. Even though the indexing is hooked into the kernel to patch all file-write actions, it is still possible to exclude certain directories. there are a number of md* utilities: mdutil (remove an index, turn on or turn off indexing for a particular volume, status. requires sudo) mdimport (force a file or tree to be (re-)indexed.) mdls (see what info is indexed on a file) mdfind (use spotlight from the command-line, using the 'raw' syntax). > - Given the files in this directory are generally owned by root > (depending on whether or not you stuck to the default setting when > installing the TeX i-Package), should mdimport be sudo'ed? I'm not sure: you can still read those files. The security issues as to whether you should see a particular file in the results is handled at a different level. > And getting OT, for those that might be interested: > > - I just noticed this morning on MacNN that Wolfram Research has > already released a SpotLight module for Mathematica notebooks > . I just hope > it works with Mathematica 4! I'd guess so, the functionality may be different, but the basic format is still text. Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From johan at almqvist.net Tue May 3 04:53:38 2005 From: johan at almqvist.net (Johan Almqvist) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:53:38 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E8DE5D8-9018-4D32-9EA0-0C06C7E4DB03@almqvist.net> On May 3, 2005, at 04:04, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > I wrote a couple of Spotlight importers that people may find > useful. BibImporter (for BibTeX files), and DVIImporter (reads > text of DVI files). In my testing, they work fine, but let me know > of any problems (crashes or memory leaks). Source is available on > request; DVIImporter has dvi2tty from gwTeX bundled with it. > Great, this should be very helpful! > The importers are available at , > and can be installed in ~/Library/Spotlight or /Library/Spotlight. > You can force Spotlight to index your teTeX tree with `mdimport -f / > usr/local/teTeX` in Terminal, and the DVI importer should give you > access to the contents of the DVI documentation files from > Spotlight, while Apple's importers will index the others. > > If you read the bibdesk-users list and installed a previous version > of my BibImporter plugin, please reinstall from the above URL. > However, I can't seem to get them to work. I've put them both in / Library/Spotlight but they don't produce any results, nor do the file types show up in the "Spotlight" System Preferences Panel... -Johan -- Johan Almqvist johan at almqvist.net --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 3 04:55:09 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:55:09 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 3 mai 05 ? 04:04, Adam R. Maxwell a ?crit : > I wrote a couple of Spotlight importers that people may find > useful. BibImporter (for BibTeX files), and DVIImporter (reads > text of DVI files). In my testing, they work fine, but let me know > of any problems (crashes or memory leaks). Source is available on > request; DVIImporter has dvi2tty from gwTeX bundled with it. > > The importers are available at , > and can be installed in ~/Library/Spotlight or /Library/Spotlight. > You can force Spotlight to index your teTeX tree with `mdimport -f / > usr/local/teTeX` in Terminal, and the DVI importer should give you > access to the contents of the DVI documentation files from > Spotlight, while Apple's importers will index the others. Reporting on this: here's the Terminal output when running the above command. HTH, Bruno Voisin $ mdimport -f /usr/local/teTeX PSSniffer error: No such file or directory 2005-05-03 10:20:44.460 mdimport[462] -[FileProcessor importMetadataFromFileAtPath:] Got exception *** -[NSCFArray addObject:]: attempt to insert nil for path '/usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.gwtex/doc/fonts/tipa/tipa.bib' 2005-05-03 10:22:31.986 mdimport[462] -[FileProcessor importMetadataFromFileAtPath:] Got exception *** -[NSCFArray addObject:]: attempt to insert nil for path '/usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.local/bibtex/bib/jfm/bibsamp.bib' PSSniffer error: No such file or directory 2005-05-03 10:22:55.544 mdimport[462] -[FileProcessor importMetadataFromFileAtPath:] Got exception *** -[NSCFArray addObject:]: attempt to insert nil for path '/usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.tetex/bibtex/bib/ams/amsxport-options.bib' 2005-05-03 10:22:55.632 mdimport[462] -[FileProcessor importMetadataFromFileAtPath:] Got exception *** -[NSCFArray addObject:]: attempt to insert nil for path '/usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.tetex/bibtex/bib/ams/mrabbrev.bib' 2005-05-03 10:22:55.654 mdimport[462] -[FileProcessor importMetadataFromFileAtPath:] Got exception *** -[NSCFArray addObject:]: attempt to insert nil for path '/usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.tetex/bibtex/bib/base/test.bib' 2005-05-03 10:22:55.670 mdimport[462] -[FileProcessor importMetadataFromFileAtPath:] Got exception *** -[NSCFArray addObject:]: attempt to insert nil for path '/usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.tetex/bibtex/bib/base/xampl.bib' 2005-05-03 10:22:55.686 mdimport[462] -[FileProcessor importMetadataFromFileAtPath:] Got exception *** -[NSCFArray addObject:]: attempt to insert nil for path '/usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.tetex/bibtex/bib/plbib/plbib.bib' 2005-05-03 10:22:56.203 mdimport[462] -[FileProcessor importMetadataFromFileAtPath:] Got exception *** -[NSCFArray addObject:]: attempt to insert nil for path '/usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.tetex/doc/bibtex/base/btxdoc.bib' Expected integer; found `n' instead. Missing or invalid generation number. missing or invalid cross-reference stream. Invalid stream length 547; should be 546. Invalid stream length 5831; should be 5830. Invalid stream length 1327; should be 1326. Invalid stream length 10041; should be 10040. Invalid stream length 915; should be 914. Invalid stream length 4268; should be 4267. Invalid stream length 3809; should be 3808. Invalid stream length 298; should be 297. Invalid stream length 5974; should be 5973. Invalid stream length 4418; should be 4417. Invalid stream length 2491; should be 2490. Invalid stream length 3857; should be 3856. Invalid stream length 962; should be 961. Invalid stream length 864; should be 863. Invalid stream length 8526; should be 8525. Invalid stream length 813; should be 812. Invalid stream length 7416; should be 7415. Invalid stream length 8109; should be 8108. Invalid stream length 793; should be 792. Invalid stream length 19349; should be 19348. Invalid stream length 3446; should be 3445. Invalid stream length 795; should be 794. Invalid stream length 3834; should be 3833. Invalid stream length 5733; should be 5732. Invalid stream length 683; should be 682. Invalid stream length 4363; should be 4362. Invalid stream length 7993; should be 7992. Invalid stream length 3549; should be 3548. Invalid stream length 3280; should be 3279. Invalid stream length 3501; should be 3500. Invalid stream length 1532; should be 1531. Invalid stream length 5165; should be 5164. Invalid stream length 5260; should be 5259. Invalid stream length 2649; should be 2648. Invalid stream length 2684; should be 2683. Invalid stream length 6007; should be 6006. Invalid stream length 6746; should be 6745. Invalid stream length 4169; should be 4168. Invalid stream length 5501; should be 5500. Invalid stream length 12901; should be 12900. Invalid stream length 5930; should be 5929. Invalid stream length 4270; should be 4269. Invalid stream length 3458; should be 3457. Invalid stream length 8313; should be 8312. Invalid stream length 499; should be 498. Invalid stream length 3683; should be 3682. Invalid stream length 212; should be 211. Invalid stream length 5357; should be 5356. Invalid stream length 2536; should be 2535. Invalid stream length 3100; should be 3099. Invalid stream length 6395; should be 6394. Invalid stream length 398; should be 397. Invalid stream length 387; should be 386. Invalid stream length 424; should be 423. Invalid stream length 418; should be 417. Invalid stream length 412; should be 411. Invalid stream length 14388; should be 14387. Invalid stream length 1572; should be 1571. Invalid stream length 1607; should be 1606. Invalid stream length 10009; should be 10008. Invalid stream length 673; should be 672. Invalid stream length 2795; should be 2794. Invalid stream length 330; should be 329. Invalid stream length 6165; should be 6164. Invalid stream length 7729; should be 7728. Invalid stream length 2928; should be 2927. Invalid stream length 2046; should be 2045. Invalid stream length 2928; should be 2927. Invalid stream length 1242; should be 1241. Invalid stream length 8875; should be 8874. Invalid stream length 1547; should be 1546. Invalid stream length 2945; should be 2944. Invalid stream length 1887; should be 1886. Invalid stream length 1256; should be 1255. Invalid stream length 1860; should be 1859. Invalid stream length 2557; should be 2556. Invalid stream length 3565; should be 3564. Invalid stream length 3816; should be 3815. Invalid stream length 15318; should be 15317. Invalid stream length 10110; should be 10109. Invalid stream length 7500; should be 7499. Invalid stream length 10340; should be 10339. Invalid stream length 12294; should be 12293. Invalid stream length 7840; should be 7839. Invalid stream length 10541; should be 10540. Invalid stream length 13332; should be 13331. Invalid stream length 4138; should be 4137. Invalid stream length 9334; should be 9333. Invalid stream length 16561; should be 16560. Invalid stream length 18057; should be 18056. Invalid stream length 11840; should be 11839. Invalid stream length 14881; should be 14880. Invalid stream length 11791; should be 11790. Invalid stream length 16811; should be 16810. Invalid stream length 15803; should be 15802. Invalid stream length 18527; should be 18526. Invalid stream length 11607; should be 11606. Invalid stream length 10446; should be 10445. Invalid stream length 4744; should be 4743. Invalid stream length 10413; should be 10412. Invalid stream length 10694; should be 10693. Invalid stream length 22435; should be 22434. Invalid stream length 24570; should be 24569. Invalid stream length 31438; should be 31437. Invalid stream length 32145; should be 32144. Invalid stream length 5773; should be 5772. 2005-05-03 10:25:57.939 mdimport[462] -[FileProcessor importMetadataFromFileAtPath:] Got exception *** -[NSCFArray addObject:]: attempt to insert nil for path '/usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.tetex/doc/latex/amscls/jr.bib' 2005-05-03 10:26:23.774 mdimport[462] -[FileProcessor importMetadataFromFileAtPath:] Got exception *** -[NSCFArray addObject:]: attempt to insert nil for path '/usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.tetex/doc/latex/bibtopic/articles.bib' 2005-05-03 10:26:23.863 mdimport[462] -[FileProcessor importMetadataFromFileAtPath:] Got exception *** -[NSCFArray addObject:]: attempt to insert nil for path '/usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.tetex/doc/latex/bibtopic/books.bib' PSSniffer error: No such file or directory PSSniffer error: No such file or directory 2005-05-03 10:28:14.211 mdimport[462] -[FileProcessor importMetadataFromFileAtPath:] Got exception *** -[NSCFArray addObject:]: attempt to insert nil for path '/usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.tetex/doc/latex/revtex4/sample/apssamp.bib' PSSniffer error: No such file or directory PSSniffer error: Not a directory PSSniffer error: Not a directory Failed to find PDF header: `%PDF' not found. PDFSniffer error: Not a directory--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 3 05:08:27 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:08:27 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: <941BF7F9-A77C-4E6C-819C-27C553012D98@xs4all.nl> References: <941BF7F9-A77C-4E6C-819C-27C553012D98@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <8DCDBAC3-D514-443C-B81F-4F0F419F1311@mac.com> Le 3 mai 05 ? 10:33, Maarten Sneep a ?crit : > [omitted very useful info] Thanks for this, it's really useful. >> - Aren't hidden directories like /usr/local/teTeX searched >> automatically when building the SpotLight database? > > I'm not sure if the hidden directories are indexed by default. Even > though the indexing is hooked into the kernel to patch all file- > write actions, it is still possible to exclude certain directories. > there are a number of md* utilities: > mdutil (remove an index, turn on or turn off indexing for a > particular volume, status. requires sudo) > mdimport (force a file or tree to be (re-)indexed.) > mdls (see what info is indexed on a file) > mdfind (use spotlight from the command-line, using the 'raw' > syntax). After having tried, I can confirm: - Before running "mdimport -f /usr/local/teTeX", looking for say "fntguide" in SpotLight returned nothing. - After, it returns a number of html, cls, dvi and txt files, as well as email messages and pdf files. Double-clicking any dvi file in the SpotLight window opens up TeXShop which, after a couple of seconds, displays the conversion of this dvi file to pdf. Vow! >> - Given the files in this directory are generally owned by root >> (depending on whether or not you stuck to the default setting when >> installing the TeX i-Package), should mdimport be sudo'ed? > > I'm not sure: you can still read those files. The security issues > as to whether you should see a particular file in the results is > handled at a different level. Of course, you're right! >> And getting OT, for those that might be interested: >> >> - I just noticed this morning on MacNN that Wolfram Research has >> already released a SpotLight module for Mathematica notebooks >> . I just >> hope it works with Mathematica 4! > > I'd guess so, the functionality may be different, but the basic > format is still text. It works indeed. For example, looking for "besselj" in SpotLight yields in 3 seconds about 70 answers: notebooks in which I used BesselJ, email messages with Wolfram Research people, theses downloaded from the web and also using BesselJ. Amazing! And as I'm typing this, I see this message -- probably at the time it's saved automatically in the Drafts mailbox -- appearing in the SpotLight window in which I looked for "fntguide"! Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 3 06:55:06 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:55:06 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Alpha taking over some file extensions Message-ID: <7B06D8F8-C8BB-4872-B5A0-47D17757DFAC@mac.com> The Alpha forums would probably be a more appropriate medium for reporting this, but since I'm no member of these forums I'm posting this here in case Alpha people are listening. After every fresh install Alpha has a tendency to "take over" some file extensions, such as .txt and .tex IIRC, at least for files that have no Type or Creator set. Until Tiger this wasn't too much of a problem (you could use View Info for any file with a given extension, and specify there the default application for all files with this extension). I remember Alpha developers telling here this wasn't a planned behaviour, and they had no idea what's causing it. However with Tiger this is becoming a problem: it seems all files, including application bundles (thus actually directories), with names ending with a dot and a number, like the Fetch application "Fetch 4.0.3", are considered as Alpha files. As a consequence, Fetch can't be opened, and the only solutions are either to remove " 4.0.3" from the name, or add a .app extension. Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no Tue May 3 07:39:25 2005 From: Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no (Jonas Wellendorf) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:39:25 +0000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Find panel (Texshop, Ogrekit) Message-ID: <0d447fb183e53f49b1fed6d48d724f70@cms.uib.no> Hi, Since I updated to 1.37 the OgreKit find panel has changed its behaviour. When I enter apple+f my last search is no longer selected in the find panel, so I have to delete it before typing a new search string. How can I change this? Thank you, Jonas --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Tue May 3 08:04:22 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 07:04:22 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Equation editors In-Reply-To: <740255EE-9A00-4A1F-AB9F-9B4250FDDB56@mac.com> Message-ID: On 5/3/05 2:03 AM, "Bruno Voisin" wrote: > Le 3 mai 05 ? 08:42, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > >> - The TeXType URL > textype.html> doesn't seem to be working anymore. > > Well it seems Safari saves the HTML file textype.html on disk instead > of displaying it. Odd! > > Bruno Voisin Howdy, I ran into that yesterday and had to do a bit of game playing to get it to work. First I went to the user's site; i.e., delete the textype.html from the end of the URL. Then I moused over the link to the file to see that URL (I think it was something like textype.zip or textype.sit) and added that to the end of the URL. Then it finally downloaded. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Tue May 3 10:00:19 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 07:00:19 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: <8DCDBAC3-D514-443C-B81F-4F0F419F1311@mac.com> References: <941BF7F9-A77C-4E6C-819C-27C553012D98@xs4all.nl> <8DCDBAC3-D514-443C-B81F-4F0F419F1311@mac.com> Message-ID: <3E10FBA5-2CE8-460E-8007-86A49256987E@mac.com> Thanks to Ralph and Bruno for the bug reports; I've made the BibImporter more careful about adding objects to arrays, so you shouldn't see those "attempt to insert nil" exceptions any more. I also fixed a memory leak, so please update BibImporter (same URL): . regards, Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Tue May 3 10:03:16 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 07:03:16 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: <0E8DE5D8-9018-4D32-9EA0-0C06C7E4DB03@almqvist.net> References: <0E8DE5D8-9018-4D32-9EA0-0C06C7E4DB03@almqvist.net> Message-ID: On May 3, 2005, at 01:53, Johan Almqvist wrote: > > On May 3, 2005, at 04:04, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > >> The importers are available at > >, and can be installed in ~/Library/Spotlight or /Library/ >> Spotlight. You can force Spotlight to index your teTeX tree with >> `mdimport -f /usr/local/teTeX` in Terminal, and the DVI importer >> should give you access to the contents of the DVI documentation >> files from Spotlight, while Apple's importers will index the others. >> > > However, I can't seem to get them to work. I've put them both in / > Library/Spotlight but they don't produce any results, Please contact me off-list for some debugging instructions, and we'll see if this can be remedied. > nor do the file types show up in the "Spotlight" System Preferences > Panel... Not all types seem to show up there, for some reason; I'm not sure where that list comes from. regards, Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Tue May 3 10:06:59 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 07:06:59 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: <941BF7F9-A77C-4E6C-819C-27C553012D98@xs4all.nl> References: <941BF7F9-A77C-4E6C-819C-27C553012D98@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: On May 3, 2005, at 01:33, Maarten Sneep wrote: >> - Aren't hidden directories like /usr/local/teTeX searched >> automatically when building the SpotLight database? >> > > I'm not sure if the hidden directories are indexed by default. Even > though the indexing is hooked into the kernel to patch all file- > write actions, it is still possible to exclude certain directories. > there are a number of md* utilities: > mdutil (remove an index, turn on or turn off indexing for a > particular volume, status. requires sudo) > mdimport (force a file or tree to be (re-)indexed.) > mdls (see what info is indexed on a file) > mdfind (use spotlight from the command-line, using the 'raw' > syntax). No, the hidden directories (and others) aren't indexed by default, unfortunately. You may have to re-index /usr/local/teTeX after a new install also; I'm not sure if the path filtering still applies after you force indexing with mdimport -f. > >> - Given the files in this directory are generally owned by root >> (depending on whether or not you stuck to the default setting when >> installing the TeX i-Package), should mdimport be sudo'ed? >> > > I'm not sure: you can still read those files. The security issues > as to whether you should see a particular file in the results is > handled at a different level. Right, since you can read them, there's no point in running as root. -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fcnpereira at mac.com Tue May 3 10:31:04 2005 From: fcnpereira at mac.com (Fernando Pereira) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:31:04 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: <3E10FBA5-2CE8-460E-8007-86A49256987E@mac.com> References: <941BF7F9-A77C-4E6C-819C-27C553012D98@xs4all.nl> <8DCDBAC3-D514-443C-B81F-4F0F419F1311@mac.com> <3E10FBA5-2CE8-460E-8007-86A49256987E@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 3, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > Thanks to Ralph and Bruno for the bug reports; I've made the > BibImporter more careful about adding objects to arrays, so you > shouldn't see those "attempt to insert nil" exceptions any more. I > also fixed a memory leak, so please update BibImporter (same URL): > . > I downloaded the latest version and tried to index my home directory, where I have lots of .bib files. To stop mdimport from looking at all of the files, I specified BibImporter with the -r option. Surprisingly, I'm getting a slew of messages indicating that all of my OmniGraffle files are being imported: 2005-05-03 10:30:21.739 mdimport[22030] Importing pathToFile='/Users/ pereira/Documents/Research/collab/figs/flow.graffle', contentTypeUTI='com.omnigroup.omnigraffle.graffle' Hum... -- F --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Tue May 3 10:36:32 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 07:36:32 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: References: <941BF7F9-A77C-4E6C-819C-27C553012D98@xs4all.nl> <8DCDBAC3-D514-443C-B81F-4F0F419F1311@mac.com> <3E10FBA5-2CE8-460E-8007-86A49256987E@mac.com> Message-ID: <3CF8F4F7-9AD2-4BA1-9A4D-8A6D6C62E8DC@mac.com> On May 3, 2005, at 07:31, Fernando Pereira wrote: > > On May 3, 2005, at 10:00 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > >> Thanks to Ralph and Bruno for the bug reports; I've made the >> BibImporter more careful about adding objects to arrays, so you >> shouldn't see those "attempt to insert nil" exceptions any more. >> I also fixed a memory leak, so please update BibImporter (same >> URL): . >> >> > > I downloaded the latest version and tried to index my home > directory, where I have lots of .bib files. To stop mdimport from > looking at all of the files, I specified BibImporter with the -r > option. Surprisingly, I'm getting a slew of messages indicating > that all of my OmniGraffle files are being imported: > > 2005-05-03 10:30:21.739 mdimport[22030] Importing pathToFile='/ > Users/pereira/Documents/Research/collab/figs/flow.graffle', > contentTypeUTI='com.omnigroup.omnigraffle.graffle' > > Hum... That's odd. I certainly didn't claim the OmniGraffle UTI, so BibImporter isn't reading those files (unless your LaunchServices cache is really corrupt). Probably -r doesn't exclude other files from being imported (Omni has a Spotlight plugin for the latest OmniGraffle), so it's picking them up as well. Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fcnpereira at mac.com Tue May 3 10:39:46 2005 From: fcnpereira at mac.com (Fernando Pereira) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:39:46 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: References: <941BF7F9-A77C-4E6C-819C-27C553012D98@xs4all.nl> <8DCDBAC3-D514-443C-B81F-4F0F419F1311@mac.com> <3E10FBA5-2CE8-460E-8007-86A49256987E@mac.com> Message-ID: <0EDA594E-55CB-474E-89A8-B7515EF30A20@mac.com> On May 3, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Fernando Pereira wrote: > I downloaded the latest version and tried to index my home > directory, where I have lots of .bib files. To stop mdimport from > looking at all of the files, I specified BibImporter with the -r > option. Surprisingly, I'm getting a slew of messages indicating > that all of my OmniGraffle files are being imported. I fact, *everything* seemed to looked at again. Eventually, I starting getting a slew of messages like 2005-05-03 10:36:15.621 mdimport[22030] Importer using too much memory (160 MB), hit critical threshold. Last file imported was: / Users/pereira/Library/Application Support/Macromedia/Dreamweaver MX 2004/Configuration/FileCache.dat and I stopped the process. The command I used was mdimport -f /Users/pereira -r /Users/pereira/Library/Spotlight/ BibImporter.mdimporter Suggestions? -- F --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gray at engr.psu.edu Tue May 3 10:57:49 2005 From: gray at engr.psu.edu (Gary L. Gray) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:57:49 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Find panel (Texshop, Ogrekit) In-Reply-To: <0d447fb183e53f49b1fed6d48d724f70@cms.uib.no> References: <0d447fb183e53f49b1fed6d48d724f70@cms.uib.no> Message-ID: <1B709213-1AAF-4021-8321-05E564154734@engr.psu.edu> On May 3, 2005, at 7:39 AM, Jonas Wellendorf wrote: > Since I updated to 1.37 the OgreKit find panel has changed its > behaviour. When I enter apple+f my last search is no longer > selected in the find panel, so I have to delete it before typing a > new search string. > > How can I change this? I am seeing the same thing with 2.0. I also would like to see the old behavior. Is there a preference somewhere to change this? -- Gary --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Tue May 3 11:40:55 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam Maxwell) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 08:40:55 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: <0EDA594E-55CB-474E-89A8-B7515EF30A20@mac.com> References: <941BF7F9-A77C-4E6C-819C-27C553012D98@xs4all.nl> <8DCDBAC3-D514-443C-B81F-4F0F419F1311@mac.com> <3E10FBA5-2CE8-460E-8007-86A49256987E@mac.com> <0EDA594E-55CB-474E-89A8-B7515EF30A20@mac.com> Message-ID: <11936834.1115134855505.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> On Tuesday, May 03, 2005, at 07:40AM, Fernando Pereira wrote: > >On May 3, 2005, at 10:31 AM, Fernando Pereira wrote: > >> I downloaded the latest version and tried to index my home >> directory, where I have lots of .bib files. To stop mdimport from >> looking at all of the files, I specified BibImporter with the -r >> option. Surprisingly, I'm getting a slew of messages indicating >> that all of my OmniGraffle files are being imported. > > >I fact, *everything* seemed to looked at again. Eventually, I >starting getting a slew of messages like > >2005-05-03 10:36:15.621 mdimport[22030] Importer using too much >memory (160 MB), hit critical threshold. Last file imported was: / >Users/pereira/Library/Application Support/Macromedia/Dreamweaver MX >2004/Configuration/FileCache.dat > >and I stopped the process. > >The command I used was > >mdimport -f /Users/pereira -r /Users/pereira/Library/Spotlight/ >BibImporter.mdimporter > >Suggestions? Make sure you use the version that I posted about an hour ago. It fixes a stupid memory leak that could cause memory usage to balloon (sorry). I've no idea why a .dat file would be looked at by my importers. Do you have BibDesk on your system, by any chance? Maybe I should update the importer to claim the .bib UTI. -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fcnpereira at mac.com Tue May 3 12:11:51 2005 From: fcnpereira at mac.com (Fernando Pereira) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:11:51 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: <11936834.1115134855505.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> References: <941BF7F9-A77C-4E6C-819C-27C553012D98@xs4all.nl> <8DCDBAC3-D514-443C-B81F-4F0F419F1311@mac.com> <3E10FBA5-2CE8-460E-8007-86A49256987E@mac.com> <0EDA594E-55CB-474E-89A8-B7515EF30A20@mac.com> <11936834.1115134855505.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 3, 2005, at 11:40 AM, Adam Maxwell wrote: > Make sure you use the version that I posted about an hour ago. I thought I did, but maybe I made a mistake as I had the older version around previously. > It fixes a stupid memory leak that could cause memory usage to > balloon (sorry). I've no idea why a .dat file would be looked at > by my importers. Do you have BibDesk on your system, by any > chance? Maybe I should update the importer to claim the .bib UTI. > Yes, I use BibDesk. All my .bib files are "owned" by it. But I don't understand why that would make the import believe everything is a .bib... -- F --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Tue May 3 12:37:12 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam Maxwell) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 09:37:12 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: References: <941BF7F9-A77C-4E6C-819C-27C553012D98@xs4all.nl> <8DCDBAC3-D514-443C-B81F-4F0F419F1311@mac.com> <3E10FBA5-2CE8-460E-8007-86A49256987E@mac.com> <0EDA594E-55CB-474E-89A8-B7515EF30A20@mac.com> <11936834.1115134855505.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> Message-ID: <2102070.1115138232881.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> On Tuesday, May 03, 2005, at 09:13AM, Fernando Pereira wrote: > >On May 3, 2005, at 11:40 AM, Adam Maxwell wrote: > >> Make sure you use the version that I posted about an hour ago. > >I thought I did, but maybe I made a mistake as I had the older >version around previously. > >> It fixes a stupid memory leak that could cause memory usage to >> balloon (sorry). I've no idea why a .dat file would be looked at >> by my importers. Do you have BibDesk on your system, by any >> chance? Maybe I should update the importer to claim the .bib UTI. >> > >Yes, I use BibDesk. All my .bib files are "owned" by it. But I don't >understand why that would make the import believe everything is >a .bib... You could try using `mdimport -d1` to see which importer is claiming those files. Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gall at spookyhill.net Tue May 3 12:56:00 2005 From: gall at spookyhill.net (Norm Gall) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:56:00 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight and .tex files In-Reply-To: <7B5E24E5-70E3-476B-8FD6-9F59A91C6E80@engr.psu.edu> References: <7B5E24E5-70E3-476B-8FD6-9F59A91C6E80@engr.psu.edu> Message-ID: <112CB3D7-34EC-40E0-9E3D-FD22806D9427@spookyhill.net> On 1-May-05, at 11:36, Gary L. Gray wrote: > > On May 1, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Bruce Cohen wrote: > > >> I would like to be able to use Tiger's "Spotlight" to search my >> large collection of LaTeX source files. >> >> Any ideas? (Yes, I could use grep, but ...) >> > > It has indexed all of mine -- both the .tex source and the .pdf > output. It is AMAZING! :-) > By any chance are all of your tex files created by TeXShop (or BBEdit, etc.)? None of my .tex files have been indexd, but I have created them all with emacs of some flavour. Spotlight uses the Type/Creator codes to identify the file? -- "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last." - Winston Churchill --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gray at engr.psu.edu Tue May 3 12:57:47 2005 From: gray at engr.psu.edu (Gary L. Gray) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:57:47 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight and .tex files In-Reply-To: <112CB3D7-34EC-40E0-9E3D-FD22806D9427@spookyhill.net> References: <7B5E24E5-70E3-476B-8FD6-9F59A91C6E80@engr.psu.edu> <112CB3D7-34EC-40E0-9E3D-FD22806D9427@spookyhill.net> Message-ID: <6E5E7CA6-1278-4B4D-A1D1-169A2C6D26BE@engr.psu.edu> On May 3, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Norm Gall wrote: > > On 1-May-05, at 11:36, Gary L. Gray wrote: > > >> >> On May 1, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Bruce Cohen wrote: >> >> >> >>> I would like to be able to use Tiger's "Spotlight" to search my >>> large collection of LaTeX source files. >>> >>> Any ideas? (Yes, I could use grep, but ...) >>> >>> >> >> It has indexed all of mine -- both the .tex source and the .pdf >> output. It is AMAZING! :-) >> >> > > By any chance are all of your tex files created by TeXShop (or > BBEdit, etc.)? > > None of my .tex files have been indexd, but I have created them all > with emacs of some flavour. Spotlight uses the Type/Creator codes > to identify the file? They are all TeXShop files (with maybe a BBEdit file or three sprinkled in there). -- Gary --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gall at spookyhill.net Tue May 3 13:04:23 2005 From: gall at spookyhill.net (Norm Gall) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 11:04:23 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight and .tex files In-Reply-To: <6E5E7CA6-1278-4B4D-A1D1-169A2C6D26BE@engr.psu.edu> References: <7B5E24E5-70E3-476B-8FD6-9F59A91C6E80@engr.psu.edu> <112CB3D7-34EC-40E0-9E3D-FD22806D9427@spookyhill.net> <6E5E7CA6-1278-4B4D-A1D1-169A2C6D26BE@engr.psu.edu> Message-ID: On 3-May-05, at 10:57, Gary L. Gray wrote: >> >> By any chance are all of your tex files created by TeXShop (or >> BBEdit, etc.)? >> >> None of my .tex files have been indexd, but I have created them >> all with emacs of some flavour. Spotlight uses the Type/Creator >> codes to identify the file? >> > > They are all TeXShop files (with maybe a BBEdit file or three > sprinkled in there). > Ok. So that means that the rtf.mdimporter is grabbing them as they are identified as plain-text. I get this: [gall at ludwig v4] $ /usr/bin/mdimport -d1 Chapter-1.tex 2005-05-03 11:01:50.637 mdimport[2440] Import '/Users/gall/Documents/ Academic/Projects/PhilofPsych/v4/Chapter-1.tex' type 'dyn.ah62d4rv4ge81k3p2' no mdimporter So, I am going to have to write an importer for .tex files made by emacs and such. Sheesh. ng -- When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite. -- Winston Churchill --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Tue May 3 13:28:52 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam Maxwell) Date: Tue, 03 May 2005 10:28:52 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight and .tex files In-Reply-To: References: <7B5E24E5-70E3-476B-8FD6-9F59A91C6E80@engr.psu.edu> <112CB3D7-34EC-40E0-9E3D-FD22806D9427@spookyhill.net> <6E5E7CA6-1278-4B4D-A1D1-169A2C6D26BE@engr.psu.edu> Message-ID: <13050305.1115141332242.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> On Tuesday, May 03, 2005, at 10:09AM, Norm Gall wrote: > >On 3-May-05, at 10:57, Gary L. Gray wrote: >>> >>> By any chance are all of your tex files created by TeXShop (or >>> BBEdit, etc.)? >>> >>> None of my .tex files have been indexd, but I have created them >>> all with emacs of some flavour. Spotlight uses the Type/Creator >>> codes to identify the file? >>> >> >> They are all TeXShop files (with maybe a BBEdit file or three >> sprinkled in there). >> > >Ok. So that means that the rtf.mdimporter is grabbing them as they >are identified as plain-text. > >I get this: > >[gall at ludwig v4] $ /usr/bin/mdimport -d1 Chapter-1.tex >2005-05-03 11:01:50.637 mdimport[2440] Import '/Users/gall/Documents/ >Academic/Projects/PhilofPsych/v4/Chapter-1.tex' type >'dyn.ah62d4rv4ge81k3p2' no mdimporter > > >So, I am going to have to write an importer for .tex files made by >emacs and such. It should be about 4 lines of code using Foundation.framework. Let me know if you want any advice :). Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jguyer at his.com Tue May 3 13:44:07 2005 From: jguyer at his.com (Jon Guyer) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 10:44:07 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Alpha taking over some file extensions In-Reply-To: <7B06D8F8-C8BB-4872-B5A0-47D17757DFAC@mac.com> References: <7B06D8F8-C8BB-4872-B5A0-47D17757DFAC@mac.com> Message-ID: <92fc6f1353d775aeafa9793eae669cba@his.com> On May 3, 2005, at 3:55 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > The Alpha forums would probably be a more appropriate medium for > reporting this, but since I'm no member of these forums I'm posting > this here in case Alpha people are listening. > > After every fresh install Alpha has a tendency to "take over" some > file extensions, such as .txt and .tex IIRC, at least for files that > have no Type or Creator set. Until Tiger this wasn't too much of a > problem (you could use View Info for any file with a given extension, > and specify there the default application for all files with this > extension). I remember Alpha developers telling here this wasn't a > planned behaviour, and they had no idea what's causing it. > > However with Tiger this is becoming a problem: it seems all files, > including application bundles (thus actually directories), with names > ending with a dot and a number, like the Fetch application "Fetch > 4.0.3", are considered as Alpha files. As a consequence, Fetch can't > be opened, and the only solutions are either to remove " 4.0.3" from > the name, or add a .app extension. I didn't set up any of our .plist file and I've never touched its contents, but I will post your question to the rest of the Cabal. I don't know why, but Alpha does claim the extensions .1 and .3 for some reason. Presumably, files with these extensions are generated or used by something that somebody wanted to edit. Ah... probably for man files. An application bundle is not strictly required to have a .app extension, but unless several other criteria are met, it is /not/ an application without it, at which point it's fair game for any app that claims whatever extension it does have. Nonetheless, I see that Fetch 4.0.3 is not an application bundle; it is an old style resource-based CFM application with type/creator of APPL/FTCh. The documentation for the Finder and LS certainly seems to indicate that this is unambiguous and should launch as an application. It has the proper plst resource, so I don't see any problems with it. Alpha does define certain wildcard extensions and creator codes, but according to the LaunchServices documentation: "To allow an application to accept files of unrestricted file type or extension during drag-and-drop operations, you can use the special wild-card values '****' or '*' for CFBundleOSTypes or CFBundleTypeExtensions, respectively. (These are honored only in drag-and-drop operations and not when the user opens a document by double-clicking.)", so if the Finder is opening these in Alpha when you double-click on them, then that's a bug in the Finder or in LS (I'm shocked, *shocked* I say. A bug in a .0 OS release from Apple?!). This is all just speculation. I'm not running Tiger and will not be so delusional as to install it until at least 10.4.1. Possible issues: 1) Alpha is indeed claiming things more aggressively than it should. We will investigate and correct this, if true. 2) Your Launch Services database is corrupt. Depending on who you talk to, this is either much more common or much less common than old-style Desktop database corruption. 3) Tiger is buggy. The probability that this is /not/ true lies in the complex plane. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 3 17:46:14 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 23:46:14 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Alpha taking over some file extensions In-Reply-To: <92fc6f1353d775aeafa9793eae669cba@his.com> References: <7B06D8F8-C8BB-4872-B5A0-47D17757DFAC@mac.com> <92fc6f1353d775aeafa9793eae669cba@his.com> Message-ID: Le 3 mai 05 ? 19:44, Jon Guyer a ?crit : > An application bundle is not strictly required to have a .app > extension, but unless several other criteria are met, it is /not/ > an application without it, at which point it's fair game for any > app that claims whatever extension it does have. Nonetheless, I see > that Fetch 4.0.3 is not an application bundle; it is an old style > resource-based CFM application with type/creator of APPL/FTCh. The > documentation for the Finder and LS certainly seems to indicate > that this is unambiguous and should launch as an application. It > has the proper plst resource, so I don't see any problems with it. Thanks for the clarification. The problem seems odd, and not really reproducible: first, after installing Tiger, when I installed Fetch everything was OK. The only odd thing was that Fetch did not have the icon I had got familiar with on OS X, namely a liquid-looking dog seen halfway from the side (the icon at Fetch's home page), but an older icon representing a dog's face holding a floppy in its mouth. Then suddenly, after a few hours and with no apparent reason (or possibly installing AlphaX afterwards, I'm not sure), Fetch had become an Alpha document, as verified by double-clicking on it, and everytime I tried to unstuff the original archive Fetch_4.0.3.sit gave this very same result at once. After removing the " 4.0.3" from the name or adding .app at the end of it (using the view info window, and answering Yes to the question that arise when closing this window), then it's an application again and Fetch has got its familiar icon back. > Alpha does define certain wildcard extensions and creator codes, > but according to the LaunchServices documentation: "To allow an > application to accept files of unrestricted file type or extension > during drag-and-drop operations, you can use the special wild-card > values '****' or '*' for CFBundleOSTypes or CFBundleTypeExtensions, > respectively. (These are honored only in drag-and-drop operations > and not when the user opens a document by double-clicking.)", so if > the Finder is opening these in Alpha when you double-click on them, > then that's a bug in the Finder or in LS (I'm shocked, *shocked* I > say. A bug in a .0 OS release from Apple?!). > > This is all just speculation. I'm not running Tiger and will not be > so delusional as to install it until at least 10.4.1. A similar though slightly different behaviour: if you plan to install DivX (don't: it doesn't work on Tiger, and yields duplicated help menus in iWork applications) and download the archive DivX521.sit from , then upon unstuffing the extracted folder "DivX 5.2.1" will be seen by Tiger as such (a folder) whereas it is actually (and was seen by Panther as) an application bundle. Again, removing " 5.2.1" from the name or adding the .app extension solves the issue. Actually the Daring Fireball "Tiger Details" blog entry mentions something possibly related (go to "?.APP? FILE EXTENSIONS" at the bottom of the page): Tiger treats .app extension differently from what it did before. Beforehand, if you asked the Finder to display all extensions, it was still hiding .app ones; with Tiger, it doesn't. BTW, this blog entry is really interesting and useful for revealing hidden gems in Tiger. For example it mentions this, which should affect TeXShop for example: the Cocoa text editing "framework" NSTextView allows discontinuous text selection with Command-drag, and column selection with Option-drag. > Possible issues: > > 1) Alpha is indeed claiming things more aggressively than it > should. We will investigate and correct this, if true. > 2) Your Launch Services database is corrupt. Depending on who > you talk to, this is either much more common or much less common > than old-style Desktop database corruption. The fact that the Fetch problems above did not arise at once might indicate this is so. I had got from somewhere (probably a post to this list) the instructions that, for forcing this database to be rebuilt, the following files needed to be erased: /Library/Caches/com.apple.LaunchServices.6B.csstore ~/Library/Caches/com.apple.LaunchServices.UserCache.csstore ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.LaunchServices.plist Is this correct? > 3) Tiger is buggy. The probability that this is /not/ true lies > in the complex plane. After almost two days "polishing" my Tiger install, getting familiar with it and solving the problems that arose because of it, I can but agree this is truly understatement! Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 3 19:16:29 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 01:16:29 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Typesetting info for TeXShop 2.01 documents Message-ID: <850E5376-035E-428B-AE9E-5434DA539AB9@mac.com> Starting to use TeXShop (now 2.01) on Tiger, I'm seeing the following. The syntax for the typesetting infos at the beginning of TeXShop document has changed. However, the instructions at or in the included file IMPORTANT_README are partly erroneous, in that, for XeLaTeX, the original syntax: %&program=xelatex %&encoding=UTF-8 Unicode becomes: %!TEX TS-program = xelatex %!TEX encoding = UTF-8Unicode Specifically: - The space before the "=" in the first line is mandatory (otherwise the default pdfeTeX is used). The instructions include this, but the mandatory character of the space isn't mentioned. - There is no space between UTF-8 and Unicode on the second line (otherwise the input encoding is considered to be TeXShop's default; generally MacOS Roman). The instructions include one. Hope this helps, Bruno --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fcnpereira at mac.com Tue May 3 19:43:25 2005 From: fcnpereira at mac.com (Fernando Pereira) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 19:43:25 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: <11936834.1115134855505.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> References: <941BF7F9-A77C-4E6C-819C-27C553012D98@xs4all.nl> <8DCDBAC3-D514-443C-B81F-4F0F419F1311@mac.com> <3E10FBA5-2CE8-460E-8007-86A49256987E@mac.com> <0EDA594E-55CB-474E-89A8-B7515EF30A20@mac.com> <11936834.1115134855505.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> Message-ID: <19214084-D325-4CBF-A49C-4CED929DF63D@mac.com> On May 3, 2005, at 11:40 AM, Adam Maxwell wrote: > Make sure you use the version that I posted about an hour ago. It > fixes a stupid memory leak that could cause memory usage to balloon > (sorry). It seems to work now. However, I noticed another (non .bib) weird thing while looking at the debugging output: 2005-05-03 19:38:51.137 mdimport[22797] Import '/Users/pereira/ Documents/Research/collab/problem.tex' type 'dyn.ah62d4rv4ge81k3p2' no mdimporter That file, as many others on my disk, was created by Unix tools (in this case, cvs from a remote repository). It looks as if SpotLight ignores all of those files (including .bib files managed in the same way?) -- F --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 4 04:38:24 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:38:24 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild Message-ID: <0C00D524-D016-432C-9192-1F8DF1A520FA@mac.com> Sorry for this OT post, but I've been faced for the first time this morning with an effective Macintosh Trojan (I thought that impossible) and thought it useful to report here, in case others are faced with it. In short, I've spent a couple of hours trying to get up and running the PowerBook G4 15" of a colleague, with no luck. The OS is Panther 10.3.9. Since last Monday, the PowerBook is freezing several times a day, with Norton Antivirus (installed on that particular Mac) popping up a dialog about Hacktool.Underhand in a file swapfile1 that cannot be repaired. Problem is, there's nothing about this Trojan at Symantec's site, and no file swapfile1 on my colleague's disk (looking for both visible and invisible files on the whole disk). Turning finally to Google gives this , which corresponds exactly to the same symptoms and is fairly recent (reports on the problem started May 2). One post attributes the problem to NeoOffice, which is wrong since it is not installed on my colleague's Mac. Apparently, the only solution (apart from disconnecting physically from the net) is to boot another Mac with Norton AV installed, connect the infected Mac in FireWire disk mode and then sanitize it, which apparently means removing several swapfiles and tmp files. Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Wed May 4 05:18:22 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 11:18:22 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <0C00D524-D016-432C-9192-1F8DF1A520FA@mac.com> References: <0C00D524-D016-432C-9192-1F8DF1A520FA@mac.com> Message-ID: Am 04.05.2005 um 10:38 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > which apparently means removing several swapfiles and tmp files. All? Bruno! The swapfiles can be found in /private/var/vm. They last till the next reboot. They're nothing more than a memory extension -- when you loose the swap files you're not losing anything but re-gaining used disk space. You can delete them by hand when you boot into single user mode with only the text console and invoke 'mount -rw /' (Mac OS X gives you the correct syntax on the boot screen), typing on an English keyboard with French lettering! The files in /private/tmp are temporal too and are allowed to exist until you switch off or reboot your Mac. Therefore too no loss. It should be worth rebooting from a Norton AV CD and scanning the PowerBook's whole disk for the source of the trojan. -- Greetings Pete --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From costabel at wanadoo.fr Wed May 4 05:25:11 2005 From: costabel at wanadoo.fr (Martin Costabel) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 11:25:11 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <0C00D524-D016-432C-9192-1F8DF1A520FA@mac.com> References: <0C00D524-D016-432C-9192-1F8DF1A520FA@mac.com> Message-ID: <427894F7.2030402@wanadoo.fr> Bruno Voisin wrote: [] > Turning finally to Google gives this wwwboard/forum/10972.html>, which corresponds exactly to the same > symptoms and is fairly recent (reports on the problem started May 2). The "Trojan" is actually the antivirus program itself. Norton AV believes to find a virus signature in a swap file and "sanitizes" the swap file, thereby crashing the system. -- Martin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 4 06:01:51 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:01:51 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: References: <0C00D524-D016-432C-9192-1F8DF1A520FA@mac.com> Message-ID: <04D7D2EA-8566-41AC-A820-72DFE32ACC57@mac.com> Le 4 mai 05 ? 11:18, Peter Dyballa a ?crit : > The swapfiles can be found in /private/var/vm. They last till the > next reboot. They're nothing more than a memory extension -- when > you loose the swap files you're not losing anything but re-gaining > used disk space. You can delete them by hand when you boot into > single user mode with only the text console and invoke 'mount - > rw /' (Mac OS X gives you the correct syntax on the boot screen), > typing on an English keyboard with French lettering! > > The files in /private/tmp are temporal too and are allowed to exist > until you switch off or reboot your Mac. Therefore too no loss. > > It should be worth rebooting from a Norton AV CD and scanning the > PowerBook's whole disk for the source of the trojan. Le 4 mai 05 ? 11:25, Martin Costabel a ?crit : > The "Trojan" is actually the antivirus program itself. Norton AV > believes to find a virus signature in a swap file and "sanitizes" > the swap file, thereby crashing the system. Hi Peter, Martin, Thanks for the help! For sure one can recognize a Unix expert when one sees one! Following my failed attempts this morning we (1) told Norton AV to only report infected files, not attempt to sanitize them, and (2) do not perform background scans, only scans on demand. This seems to have halted the problem, and agrees perfectly with your explanations. Earlier, looking for swap files, we had found on my colleague's HD one /private/var/vm/swapfile0 (and indeed I have one too, 64 MB in size, on my Tiger PowerBook), but no swapfile1 which was the file reported by Norton AV as infected. Odd! Why the problem only started on May 2 remains unexplained. Given the latest virus definition file on my colleague's setup dates back to May 1, I tend to think that the problem is in this file, which would define erroneously (or may be not ;-) Norton AV as viral. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 4 06:33:43 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 12:33:43 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Typesetting info for TeXShop 2.01 documents In-Reply-To: <850E5376-035E-428B-AE9E-5434DA539AB9@mac.com> References: <850E5376-035E-428B-AE9E-5434DA539AB9@mac.com> Message-ID: <0F4EADF4-B28D-4B27-8753-171B94EBB758@mac.com> Le 4 mai 05 ? 01:16, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > The syntax for the typesetting infos at the beginning of TeXShop > document has changed. However, the instructions at www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop/changes.html> or in the included file > IMPORTANT_README are partly erroneous, in that, for XeLaTeX, the > original syntax: > > %&program=xelatex > %&encoding=UTF-8 Unicode > > becomes: > > %!TEX TS-program = xelatex > %!TEX encoding = UTF-8Unicode > > Specifically: > > - The space before the "=" in the first line is mandatory > (otherwise the default pdfeTeX is used). The instructions include > this, but the mandatory character of the space isn't mentioned. > > - There is no space between UTF-8 and Unicode on the second line > (otherwise the input encoding is considered to be TeXShop's > default; generally MacOS Roman). The instructions include one. Regarding the second remark, it turns out I was wrong. I don't understand fully what happened, but it seems to be connected with TeXShop no longer recognizing by default the older syntax: %&program=xelatex %&encoding=UTF-8 Unicode I took a former XeLaTeX file of mine, in UTF-8 encoding and using that syntax, and opened it in TeXShop, with MacOS Roman encoding as the default (for these occasions when I'm not using XeTeX). Then I replaced the above two lines by the new syntax: %!TEX TS-program = xelatex %!TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode and saved then typeset the file. However, because the modification had taken place in a TeXShop not recognizing the former syntax, the file has not been recognized as UTF-8 endoded upon opening, but as MacOS Roman encoded, and finally not saved in the proper (UTF-8) encoding. When opened afterwards, because of the correct new syntax, the file was identified as UTF-8 encoded, which its wasn't; hence the improper XeLaTeX output, with esoteric (square root etc.) symbols where accented letters should have been. If, on the other hand, the second line "UTF-8 Unicode" was replaced by "UTF-8Unicode", as I did later, then the file was not interpreted as UTF-8 input and yielded (oddly enough) correct XeLaTeX output. Two more things I tried: - Taking the original file and modifying it this time in TextEdit which is (in its default settings) encoding-agnostic. Then opening the file in TeXShop and XeLaTeXing it yields correct output. - Using the instructions at to get TeXShop recognize the former syntax in addition to the new one: defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands YES Then the file can be modified and compiled in TeXShop, yielding correct output. In summary I think that, for the sake of compatibility, it would be nicer to have the former syntax recognized by TeXShop in addition to the new syntax. Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk Wed May 4 06:37:19 2005 From: Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk (Ralph Martin) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 11:37:19 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <04D7D2EA-8566-41AC-A820-72DFE32ACC57@mac.com> References: <0C00D524-D016-432C-9192-1F8DF1A520FA@mac.com> <04D7D2EA-8566-41AC-A820-72DFE32ACC57@mac.com> Message-ID: <5ab84fddfcddc2c7fb32ab02d61dac9b@cs.cf.ac.uk> Recently I have had some sort of trojan(?) on my Mac. A bunch of files inluding perl scripts were created in /var/tmp/... running a file server. Ralph -- Prof Ralph Martin Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536 School of Computer Science Fax: +44(0)29 2087 4598 Cardiff University Email: mailto:ralph at cs.cf.ac.uk 5 The Parade, Roath WWW: http://ralph.cs.cf.ac.uk/ Cardiff, CF24 3AA, United Kingdom VOIP: sip:rrmwork at iptel.org --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Wed May 4 08:58:48 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 07:58:48 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Typesetting info for TeXShop 2.01 documents In-Reply-To: <0F4EADF4-B28D-4B27-8753-171B94EBB758@mac.com> Message-ID: On 5/4/05 5:33 AM, "Bruno Voisin" wrote: > Le 4 mai 05 ? 01:16, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > >> The syntax for the typesetting infos at the beginning of TeXShop >> document has changed. However, the instructions at > www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop/changes.html> or in the included file >> IMPORTANT_README are partly erroneous, in that, for XeLaTeX, the >> original syntax: >> >> %&program=xelatex >> %&encoding=UTF-8 Unicode >> >> becomes: >> >> %!TEX TS-program = xelatex >> %!TEX encoding = UTF-8Unicode >> >> Specifically: >> >> - The space before the "=" in the first line is mandatory >> (otherwise the default pdfeTeX is used). The instructions include >> this, but the mandatory character of the space isn't mentioned. >> >> - There is no space between UTF-8 and Unicode on the second line >> (otherwise the input encoding is considered to be TeXShop's >> default; generally MacOS Roman). The instructions include one. > > Regarding the second remark, it turns out I was wrong. I don't > understand fully what happened, but it seems to be connected with > TeXShop no longer recognizing by default the older syntax: > > %&program=xelatex > %&encoding=UTF-8 Unicode > > I took a former XeLaTeX file of mine, in UTF-8 encoding and using > that syntax, and opened it in TeXShop, with MacOS Roman encoding as > the default (for these occasions when I'm not using XeTeX). Then I > replaced the above two lines by the new syntax: > > %!TEX TS-program = xelatex > %!TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode > > and saved then typeset the file. However, because the modification > had taken place in a TeXShop not recognizing the former syntax, the > file has not been recognized as UTF-8 endoded upon opening, but as > MacOS Roman encoded, and finally not saved in the proper (UTF-8) > encoding. > > When opened afterwards, because of the correct new syntax, the file > was identified as UTF-8 encoded, which its wasn't; hence the improper > XeLaTeX output, with esoteric (square root etc.) symbols where > accented letters should have been. If, on the other hand, the second > line "UTF-8 Unicode" was replaced by "UTF-8Unicode", as I did later, > then the file was not interpreted as UTF-8 input and yielded (oddly > enough) correct XeLaTeX output. > > Two more things I tried: > > - Taking the original file and modifying it this time in TextEdit > which is (in its default settings) encoding-agnostic. Then opening > the file in TeXShop and XeLaTeXing it yields correct output. > > - Using the instructions at changes.html> to get TeXShop recognize the former syntax in addition > to the new one: > > defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands YES > > Then the file can be modified and compiled in TeXShop, yielding > correct output. > > In summary I think that, for the sake of compatibility, it would be > nicer to have the former syntax recognized by TeXShop in addition to > the new syntax. > > Bruno Howdy, I've managed to do this in one of my XeLaTeX files and now don't know how to get the it back! Luckily it's not important and goes back to when XeLaTeX first came out. I did notice that there had to be a space on each side of the `=' in the line and meant to bring that up as a possible bug. Didn't think it could have this permanent effect on a file. If I set the default input format to UTF-8 in TeXShop but only use the standard ASCII set and standard LaTeX commands for accented characters as pdflatex input will pdflatex be able to compile it; i.e., is the plain ASCII set the same in Mac and UTF-8 encoding? What about using your French keyboard and entering the extended set of charcters; does it need an input encoding? Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From koch at math.uoregon.edu Wed May 4 09:43:37 2005 From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 06:43:37 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Typesetting info for TeXShop 2.01 documents In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9480283B-B2EB-4F6D-8EEE-8D2476FAB085@math.uoregon.edu> Folks, Thanks to Bruno for explaining his problem. I'll revise IMPORTANT_README to tell users exactly how to convert UTF-8 files. To convert an XeTeX project, I recommend opening TeXShop from scratch, opening Preferences and setting the encoding preference to UTF-8 Unicode, and then opening the files one by one and changing their encoding lines. Save all of the changed files. As a final step, switch TeXShop's encoding preference back to its original value. The trouble with having TeXShop recognize the old syntax in addition to the new one is that it defeats the purpose of the fix. The "%&" syntax is reserved for tex itself. Dick --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Wed May 4 10:10:30 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 09:10:30 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Typesetting info for TeXShop 2.01 documents In-Reply-To: <9480283B-B2EB-4F6D-8EEE-8D2476FAB085@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: On 5/4/05 8:43 AM, "Richard Koch" wrote: > Folks, > > Thanks to Bruno for explaining his problem. I'll revise IMPORTANT_README > to tell users exactly how to convert UTF-8 files. > > To convert an XeTeX project, I recommend opening TeXShop from scratch, > opening Preferences and setting the encoding preference to UTF-8 > Unicode, > and then opening the files one by one and changing their encoding > lines. Save > all of the changed files. As a final step, switch TeXShop's encoding > preference > back to its original value. > > The trouble with having TeXShop recognize the old syntax in addition > to the > new one is that it defeats the purpose of the fix. The "%&" syntax is > reserved > for tex itself. > > Dick > Howdy, I thought that was only for lines that designated the TeX processor, e.g., ``%&pdflatex,'' not for encoding since pdflatex, etc. (not including xetex and/or omega), only understand ASCII input without a special input encoding package. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 4 10:24:34 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:24:34 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Typesetting info for TeXShop 2.01 documents In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8246B042-5AF7-43DD-BDCF-70734E38A3B4@mac.com> Le 4 mai 05 ? 14:58, Herb Schulz a ?crit : > I've managed to do this in one of my XeLaTeX files and now don't > know how to > get the it back! > > Luckily it's not important and goes back to when XeLaTeX first came > out. Hi Herb, Fortunately I had done these tests on a copy of the original file, thus nothing was lost. As to how to get your modified file to its original state, I don't know. Probably manual searching and replacing would be the most efficient way, provided the file isn't too long and doesn't include too many non-ASCII characters. I've tried to use Cyclone to convert files from one encoding to the other, but it seems to no longer work on Tiger, or I can no longer figure out how it works. I've tried to use BBEdit 7 as well, but either it's too old and BBEdit 8 is required with Tiger, or I also can no longer figure out how it works; in any case, I didn't manage to get it to convert encodings successfully. > I did notice that there had to be a space on each side of the `=' > in the > line and meant to bring that up as a possible bug. Didn't think it > could > have this permanent effect on a file. I think it's only important for specifying the program. I didn't observe the same effect with the encoding line, but I didn't try all possibilities. > If I set the default input format to UTF-8 in TeXShop but only use the > standard ASCII set and standard LaTeX commands for accented > characters as > pdflatex input will pdflatex be able to compile it; i.e., is the > plain ASCII > set the same in Mac and UTF-8 encoding? What about using your French > keyboard and entering the extended set of charcters; does it need > an input > encoding? The encoding shouldn't matter if you only use ASCII characters: all encodings share the same ASCII foundation (with TeX, though, giving special meaning to the first 30 or so characters oof the ASCII table, normally reserved by the OS for characters such as EOL, LF etc., but that shouldn't matter here). And yes, the encoding in TeXShop influences the way the non-ASCII characters -- like ? ? ? ? ? -- entered on my French keyboard are stored in the TeX input file on disk; that's about it in XeTeX, provided UTF-8 encoding is used, whereas in standard TeX I also need to use the inputenc package with appropriate option, eg for Mac OS Roman encoding in TeXShop: \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc} Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 4 12:44:15 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:44:15 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reloaded Message-ID: <76285FCB-0083-4CEA-8053-3612D20DE415@mac.com> Something I just remarked with TeXShop on Tiger: the Preview Window Magnification doesn't stick. On my setup it's set to 150, but apparently that's not taken into account; instead, it seems Fit to Window is always applied when a document is opened. What I also miss is no longer having Fit to Width as an available magnification. It seems there's now only Fit to Window, with different effects depending on whether Default Page Style is set to Single Page or Multi-Page: - In Single Page, the magnification is set such that the whole page fits within the window. - In Multi-Page, it is set such that the page width occupies the whole width of the window. That makes sense. Thanks, in any case, for having fixed the bug in which, in previous versions of TeXShop, when moving one page up or down, the lateral centering of the page was lost. A request: keyboard shortcuts for scrolling up or down, and also one page up or down. It would be nice to be able to scroll a whole document without having to use the mouse. Wait! After trying some key combinations, it seems you can actually do this: Space scrolls one screen down, and Shift-Space one screen up. A suggestion: something convenient in recent applications like Pages and Keynote (from iWork) is in the Help menu, in addition to the Help item itself, another Keyboard Shortcuts item opening a separate help document (in Help Viewer) containing a table of all keyboard shortcuts for the application. I second the request, made last week-end, of being able to hard-wrap text in TexShop. Possibly a switch enabling "Hard Wrap As You Type", and a command "Hard Wrap", pretty much as for spell checking. Finally: is it planned at some point to add to TeXShop the ability to Cmd-Drag for discontinuous selection, and Alt-Drag for column selection, as now allowed by NSTextView? (As I don't know whether TeXShop uses NSTextView, this suggestion may make no sense at all.) Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Wed May 4 15:39:32 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 21:39:32 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reloaded In-Reply-To: <76285FCB-0083-4CEA-8053-3612D20DE415@mac.com> References: <76285FCB-0083-4CEA-8053-3612D20DE415@mac.com> Message-ID: Am 04.05.2005 um 18:44 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > A request: keyboard shortcuts for scrolling up or down, and also one > page up or down. It would be nice to be able to scroll a whole > document without having to use the mouse. Wait! After trying some key > combinations, it seems you can actually do this: Space scrolls one > screen down, and Shift-Space one screen up. > I use cursor-left/right to browse through the pages. -- Greetings <] Pete o __o |__ o recumbo ___o /I -\<, |o \ -\),-% ergo sum! ___/\ /\___./ \___...O/ O____.....`-O-'-()--o_________________ --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From stefan at walsen.net Wed May 4 15:45:32 2005 From: stefan at walsen.net (Stefan Walsen) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 21:45:32 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Typesetting info for TeXShop 2.01 documents In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4279265C.8050107@walsen.net> Herb Schulz wrote: > Bruno Voisin wrote: >> [Stuff about encoding troubles] > > I've managed to do this in one of my XeLaTeX files and now don't know > how to get the it back! You might find this little tool handy: http://www.nebulous.org/handy/text_recoder.html With Text Recoder, you can browse through different encodings for a file and see which one comes out correctly, then save the file in an encoding of your choice. I don't know whether it works on Tiger (as I didn't have the chance to upgrade yet), and neither does the author (or at least he doesn't tell). It does work on 10.3.9, though, and I can't imagine a reason for it not to work on Tiger. HTH, Stefan --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Wed May 4 16:46:20 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 15:46:20 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Typesetting info for TeXShop 2.01 documents In-Reply-To: <4279265C.8050107@walsen.net> Message-ID: On 5/4/05 2:45 PM, "Stefan Walsen" wrote: > Herb Schulz wrote: >> Bruno Voisin wrote: >>> [Stuff about encoding troubles] >> >> I've managed to do this in one of my XeLaTeX files and now don't know >> how to get the it back! > > You might find this little tool handy: > > http://www.nebulous.org/handy/text_recoder.html > > With Text Recoder, you can browse through different encodings for a file > and see which one comes out correctly, then save the file in an encoding > of your choice. > > I don't know whether it works on Tiger (as I didn't have the chance to > upgrade yet), and neither does the author (or at least he doesn't tell). > It does work on 10.3.9, though, and I can't imagine a reason for it not > to work on Tiger. > > HTH, > Stefan Howdy, The author only says it works in 10.2.x but it seems to work in 10.3.9 except it crashed when I tried out UTF-16 on a file. Unfortunately it appears that the UTF-8 file was read in as MacRoman encoding and, after changes, was written out as MacRoman encoding to so I can't seem to retrieve the original; i.e., the file looked wrong in Mac encoding AND UTF-8. Like I said, no big deal; as a matter of fact I found the original source and did the change carefully - after setting the TeXShop option to allow the old-style command. I know I shouldn't use the old-style commands and I've managed to get all my others over fine. I know that I probably missed a few but I don't have too many Xe(La)TeX files and all my others are MacRoman using only standard ASCII. I think I only have one file that uses \usepackage[applemac]{inputenc} because I needed a bullet character in verbatim and that was the easiest way to get it at the time. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Wed May 4 18:16:45 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 00:16:45 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Typesetting info for TeXShop 2.01 documents In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <070b9585b418402f317817111c5f3e54@Web.DE> Am 04.05.2005 um 14:58 schrieb Herb Schulz: > If I set the default input format to UTF-8 in TeXShop but only use the > standard ASCII set and standard LaTeX commands for accented characters > as > pdflatex input will pdflatex be able to compile it; i.e., is the plain > ASCII > set the same in Mac and UTF-8 encoding? What about using your French > keyboard and entering the extended set of charcters; does it need an > input > encoding? Hello Herb! Although Terminal is set (and able too) to make use of the whole UTF-8 character set, there are applications that are a bit restricted. vi, or better: vim for example. I know the files which have some characters from the range 128-255 (or, more exact, from the range 160-255, because the range 128-159 are the 8bit control codes, analogous to those in the 7bit range, 0-31, in the ISO Latin encodings, only Mac Roman has no gap and only 7bit controls). In vim 8bit and UTF-8 characters are displayed as ?, in pico too. Both are clever enough not to re-encode the file when saving it. When you're stubborn enough to accept that ? can mean ?, ?, ?, or anything else too, you just make your changes in the 7bit ASCII range and save them. That's all! It makes no difference which keyboard layout you're using and which method you apply to type an 'extended' character (you could use Character Palette too!), they all get translated by internal mechanisms to show up as the same glyph. This show is just a presentation layer. Another kind of presentation layer is the way these glyphs are saved as bytes in a file, as one, two, three, or more bytes each ... And only the first 128 code positions, the 7 bits behind the seven mountains, in the ISO Latin, Mac Roman, and MS Windows encodings are the same; the DOS Code Pages could exchange the characters #, $, @, [, ], \, {, }, |, ^, _, `, or ~ by 'national' ones, German umlauts, French accents, the British ?. While ISO Latin, HP Roman-8, and Unicode reflect the 7 bit control characters in the code postition range of 0-31 into the 8 bit extension, i.e. the code positions 128-159 are (again) 8 bit control characters, Mac Roman and MS Windows use some to all of these points. Compared to these ASCII encodings chaos is a well-structured and computable design. -- Greetings Pete Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a night, but set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amorton at fastmail.fm Wed May 4 18:54:34 2005 From: amorton at fastmail.fm (Anthony Morton) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:54:34 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <0C00D524-D016-432C-9192-1F8DF1A520FA@mac.com> Message-ID: <7BB0AF62-BCEF-11D9-A924-0003931D89F6@fastmail.fm> > Sorry for this OT post, but I've been faced for the first time this > morning with an effective Macintosh Trojan (I thought that impossible) > and thought it useful to report here, in case others are faced with > it. Hi Bruno, Whether this trojan really is one or not, keep in mind that trojans are *always* possible on *any* operating system. This is because they don't rely for their effect on technical features of the computer but rather on tricking an admin user into running malicious code (which said admin user always has the power to do). Some operating system features make this kind of trickery easier or more difficult, but it's always possible in principle. The moral is: always be vigilant, especially with email attachments. Cheers, Tony M. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jkhanson at umich.edu Wed May 4 20:12:29 2005 From: jkhanson at umich.edu (Jon Hanson) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 20:12:29 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <1D4F821B-31CF-428C-B8DF-A5FFC80C9DA9@umich.edu> > Subject: OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild > From: "Bruno Voisin" > Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 10:38:24 +0200 > > In short, I've spent a couple of hours trying to get up and running > the PowerBook G4 15" of a colleague, with no luck. The OS is Panther > 10.3.9. Since last Monday, the PowerBook is freezing several times a > day, with Norton Antivirus (installed on that particular Mac) popping > up a dialog about Hacktool.Underhand in a file swapfile1 that cannot > be repaired. Problem is, there's nothing about this Trojan at > Symantec's site, and no file swapfile1 on my colleague's disk > (looking for both visible and invisible files on the whole disk). Macintouch provides this link to instructions for removing this Trojan: http://www.cowfight.com/cf4/underhand/RemovingUnderhand.rtf Cheers, Jon Hanson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From sick at ucalgary.ca Wed May 4 21:42:42 2005 From: sick at ucalgary.ca (Gordon Sick) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:42:42 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and Lucida doesn't Message-ID: <875D7721-6BD2-4AA8-B42C-5DE4706F9983@ucalgary.ca> Further to my earlier post, I've been pursuing the issue of being able to edit pdfs created by PDFLatex on Mac OS X with Illustrator CS1. I had earlier thought that this wouldn't work at all, because Illustrator won't recognize the fonts, but I now find that I Illustrator WILL correctly handle the default CMR fonts with no problem but NOT the Lucida Y&Y fonts. I've checked my system, and I don't have the Tex-Illustrator version of CMR on the system. When I open the CMR text (created with TeXShop 2 defaults) in Illustrator CS, I can see the CMR fonts and even select the text line and add text. I know it is the Tex version of CMR, because when I type a space, it gives me a ? mark rather than a space. Now, when I Latex the simple document with the Y&Y Lucida fonts with the following preamble: \usepackage[LY1]{fontenc} \usepackage[expert,altbullet]{lucidabr} I find I can't open the Lucida fonts in Illustrator CS. It substitutes another font instead. Does anybody have any suggestions as to where I should look to figure out how to get the Y&Y Lucida fonts being treated the same as the CMR fonts in Illustrator? Thanks, in advance, for any help. --Gordon Sick --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From thomas.schmitz at uni-bonn.de Thu May 5 02:44:00 2005 From: thomas.schmitz at uni-bonn.de (Thomas A. Schmitz) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:44:00 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <482620AD-E56F-4878-AACB-BEB1BE4F71F5@uni-bonn.de> On May 5, 2005, at 2:00 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Earlier, looking for swap files, we had found on my colleague's HD > one /private/var/vm/swapfile0 (and indeed I have one too, 64 MB in > size, on my Tiger PowerBook), but no swapfile1 which was the file > reported by Norton AV as infected. Odd! > Just a small remark: when the load average goes up, OS X will create those swapfiles and number them consecutively. When the load average goes down again over an extended period of time, it will delete them again. I have seen this behavior on my box: after doing some memory- intensive stuff, I could see swapfiles0 through 3 in /var/vm. After a while of normal use, swapfiles 2 and 3 were deleted again. So, to sum up: the fact that you couldn't find the offending file doesn't mean it wasn't there when Norton reported it. This being said: I've stayed away from all Norton products since the advent of OS X, and my computing exeprience has been a lot smoother. Even on Mac OS 9, the latest atavars of Norton System Works were extremely unstable and dangerous; with OS X, it was disastrous. Best Thomas --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Thu May 5 02:51:46 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:51:46 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <482620AD-E56F-4878-AACB-BEB1BE4F71F5@uni-bonn.de> References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> <482620AD-E56F-4878-AACB-BEB1BE4F71F5@uni-bonn.de> Message-ID: <55BBEF25-FEE1-4241-AF8D-D77D3659B6C5@mac.com> Le 5 mai 05 ? 08:44, Thomas A. Schmitz a ?crit : > This being said: I've stayed away from all Norton products since > the advent of OS X, and my computing exeprience has been a lot > smoother. Even on Mac OS 9, the latest atavars of Norton System > Works were extremely unstable and dangerous; with OS X, it was > disastrous. Same with me: I have always disliked their tendency to reinvent the OS (read: interfere with its operation), and make it a hell slower. (Ever tried on OS 7 to activate this functionality keeping a trace of all files created and put to the trash, for later restoring if needed? With it, very file suppression took about a second, imagine when you were deleting a whole directory.) As an antivirus on OS X I only used Virex, and actually purchased my .Mac subscription essentially to get it. With Tiger Apple recommend against it (by saying it's only for Panther), though without telling the why. Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Thu May 5 03:07:04 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:07:04 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <1D4F821B-31CF-428C-B8DF-A5FFC80C9DA9@umich.edu> References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> <1D4F821B-31CF-428C-B8DF-A5FFC80C9DA9@umich.edu> Message-ID: <8CD2F377-043A-44A2-A4FC-320914C3E5D5@mac.com> Le 5 mai 05 ? 02:12, Jon Hanson a ?crit : > Macintouch provides this link to instructions for removing this > Trojan: > > http://www.cowfight.com/cf4/underhand/RemovingUnderhand.rtf Many thanks for the help. Yesterday evening my colleague reported to me that, even after switching Norton Antivirus essentially off, the problem (Mac becoming unresponsive) still showed up. I won't have the opportunity to see my colleague before Monday, but as soon as I do I'll see to applying the removal instructions. I looked at that site (CowFight), I'm amazed and shocked: these guys provide infection tools openly, as if it were any legitimate business, and congratulate themselves on their achievements. On the other hand this of course serves as a reminder to the Mac user community that security measures have always to be taken. Be it connected or not, since activating, in Tiger, firewall logging and stealth mode, I'm now seeing bursts of port scanning now and then, whether I'm at home on an AirPort network or (what's more worrying) at work protected in principle by several layers of university firewalls. ipfw.log contains many bursts of lines like (10.0.1.2 is an address on my AirPort network, and I'm hiding the other IPs to not get a poor guy's address showing up on Google) : May 5 08:32:29 Portable-de-Bruno ipfw: Stealth Mode connection attempt to TCP 10.0.1.2:49987 from [...].73.26:80 May 5 08:32:29 Portable-de-Bruno ipfw: Stealth Mode connection attempt to TCP 10.0.1.2:49986 from [...].73.26:80 May 5 08:32:34 Portable-de-Bruno ipfw: Stealth Mode connection attempt to TCP 10.0.1.2:49965 from [...].87.2:80 Scary! (I hope I'm not misinterpreting these messages as port scan attempts.) Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lp15 at cam.ac.uk Thu May 5 04:16:17 2005 From: lp15 at cam.ac.uk (Lawrence Paulson) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 09:16:17 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild Message-ID: > The "Trojan" is actually the antivirus program itself. Norton AV > believes to find a virus signature in a swap file and "sanitizes" the > swap file, thereby crashing the system. Well, well. I used to run Virex, and it caused no end of problems with many applications. Some people even lost their mailboxes. AV software for Macs serves no purpose at present. Larry Paulson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From scheffner at gmx.de Thu May 5 04:19:53 2005 From: scheffner at gmx.de (Thorsten Scheffner) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:19:53 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <7BB0AF62-BCEF-11D9-A924-0003931D89F6@fastmail.fm> References: <7BB0AF62-BCEF-11D9-A924-0003931D89F6@fastmail.fm> Message-ID: <933713f7d322e0eaa4fbc732d71633dc@gmx.de> Hello, I read the discussion about viruses on mac and want to add one scanner: I use clamAV ( http://www.clamav.net ) as antivirus tool with ClamXav ( http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/24449 ) as gui frontend. It is a freeware scanner for unix, mac and win. It is really slow, a scan of my 30 GB-volume took about 2,5 hours and it does not find viruses on the classic enviroment. But it seems to "know" a lot of different viruses. Worth a look, I think. On the other hand - Symantec is beta-testing a new version of NAV. Maybe this will give us a little more protection. Have a nice day, Yours Thorsten -- "Ich habe nichts zu verbergen - trage aber trotzdem gerne Hosen" --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Thu May 5 05:12:23 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:12:23 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <55BBEF25-FEE1-4241-AF8D-D77D3659B6C5@mac.com> References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> <482620AD-E56F-4878-AACB-BEB1BE4F71F5@uni-bonn.de> <55BBEF25-FEE1-4241-AF8D-D77D3659B6C5@mac.com> Message-ID: <28FAF602-FEA9-486D-AD4C-04B4BC6359B5@xs4all.nl> On May 5, 2005, at 8:51 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > As an antivirus on OS X I only used Virex, and actually purchased > my .Mac subscription essentially to get it. With Tiger Apple > recommend against it (by saying it's only for Panther), though > without telling the why. I tried to install it (7.2, through my ISP), and it can't connect to retrieve updates to its definitions. There may be some other parts that interfere with normal operation of the OS. On May 5, 2005, at 10:19 AM, Thorsten Scheffner wrote: > I read the discussion about viruses on mac and want to add one > scanner: I use clamAV ( http://www.clamav.net ) as antivirus tool > with ClamXav ( http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/ > 24449 ) as gui frontend. It is a freeware scanner for unix, mac and > win. It is really slow, a scan of my 30 GB-volume took about 2,5 > hours and it does not find viruses on the classic enviroment. But > it seems to "know" a lot of different viruses. Worth a look, I think. ClamAV is commonly used to scan incoming mail for virusses. Its main advantage (especially for mail scanning) is that the definitions can be updated very quickly: they actually advise you to update them every 30 minutes or so (they use differences between updates, so the network load isn't that bad). In emergency situations (Sober.ZZZ suddenly appears), you can add your own scanning signature. I noticed that I now have a deamon user for ClamAV on Tiger (I did a clean install), so Apple knows about it in any case. Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bb at creativeeyes.at Thu May 5 05:56:41 2005 From: bb at creativeeyes.at (Bernhard Barkow) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 11:56:41 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <28FAF602-FEA9-486D-AD4C-04B4BC6359B5@xs4all.nl> References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> <482620AD-E56F-4878-AACB-BEB1BE4F71F5@uni-bonn.de> <55BBEF25-FEE1-4241-AF8D-D77D3659B6C5@mac.com> <28FAF602-FEA9-486D-AD4C-04B4BC6359B5@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 5. Mai 2005, at 11:12, Maarten Sneep wrote: > >> As an antivirus on OS X I only used Virex, and actually purchased >> my .Mac subscription essentially to get it. With Tiger Apple >> recommend against it (by saying it's only for Panther), though >> without telling the why. >> > > I tried to install it (7.2, through my ISP), and it can't connect > to retrieve updates to its definitions. There may be some other > parts that interfere with normal operation of the OS. > > On May 5, 2005, at 10:19 AM, Thorsten Scheffner wrote: > >> I read the discussion about viruses on mac and want to add one >> scanner: I use clamAV ( http://www.clamav.net ) as antivirus tool >> with ClamXav ( http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/ >> 24449 ) as gui frontend. It is a freeware scanner for unix, mac >> and win. It is really slow, a scan of my 30 GB-volume took about >> 2,5 hours and it does not find viruses on the classic enviroment. >> But it seems to "know" a lot of different viruses. Worth a look, I >> think. >> > > ClamAV is commonly used to scan incoming mail for virusses. Its > main advantage (especially for mail scanning) is that the > definitions can be updated very quickly: they actually advise you > to update them every 30 minutes or so (they use differences between > updates, so the network load isn't that bad). In emergency > situations (Sober.ZZZ suddenly appears), you can add your own > scanning signature. > > I noticed that I now have a deamon user for ClamAV on Tiger (I did > a clean install), so Apple knows about it in any case. > This seems to be a leftover from Tiger Server, where you can filter email on a OS X-based mail server through ClamAV or Amavis etc. ClamAV's features sound promising, it would be nice to have a plugin for Apple Mail to use it for filtering emails only (on the client); as far as I found out you can only schedule it to scan certain files periodically or have it as a server-based filter. Or is there an option which I didn't see? Bernhard -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCee3dqJ8JxFkhAg0RAhDIAKDlm0XaFkkdduojRUvZeBlt/WD3NgCg5Mby CkusoAZKxIe7LADVugI7vmQ= =1LcW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Thu May 5 07:16:23 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:16:23 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> <482620AD-E56F-4878-AACB-BEB1BE4F71F5@uni-bonn.de> <55BBEF25-FEE1-4241-AF8D-D77D3659B6C5@mac.com> <28FAF602-FEA9-486D-AD4C-04B4BC6359B5@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <8F669FED-7A93-43FC-A20D-000882C25316@mac.com> Le 5 mai 05 ? 11:56, Bernhard Barkow a ?crit : > On 5. Mai 2005, at 11:12, Maarten Sneep wrote: > >>> As an antivirus on OS X I only used Virex, and actually purchased >>> my .Mac subscription essentially to get it. With Tiger Apple >>> recommend against it (by saying it's only for Panther), though >>> without telling the why. >> >> I tried to install it (7.2, through my ISP), and it can't connect >> to retrieve updates to its definitions. There may be some other >> parts that interfere with normal operation of the OS. I looked at the Apple Virex discussion forum this morning, it seems Virex is simply incompatible with Tiger (it consumes a huge amount of CPU resources, apparently due to background scanning), and Norton AV is also incompatible: There's even a copy of a message from .Mac support, confirming Virex isn't compatible, and telling that .Mac includes now email scanning as a part of its email service. But what about other email accounts? Regarding the virus definition updates: - You can download the DAT file in Mac .pkg format from . There'll be a screen asking you to confirm that you've got PrimeSupport, but given you've got Virex from .Mac and are entitled to update virus definitions, I assume that's no problem. Then you'll obtain a .gz file (I just tried and got V7050504.gz), which dragged onto StuffIt Expander yields a .pkg file. - You can also download the same .pkg file from .Mac, through the succession of links: Login > Member Central > Virex (Panther Only) > Download > Download Virex Updates - You can download the DAT file in Unix format from . Get the latest .tar file, untar it, then put IIRC the three files clean.dat, names.dat and scan.dat inside /usr/local/vscanx/. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Thu May 5 07:23:27 2005 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 13:23:27 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <8CD2F377-043A-44A2-A4FC-320914C3E5D5@mac.com> References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> <1D4F821B-31CF-428C-B8DF-A5FFC80C9DA9@umich.edu> <8CD2F377-043A-44A2-A4FC-320914C3E5D5@mac.com> Message-ID: I noticed these attempts too. From the ip addresses I can tell that they are from my internet provider. If they are legitimate or not and don't know, but the connection isn't affected by my stealth settings. With regard to antivirus software. I use Sophos Anti Virus and recommend it strongly. Though I guess individual licenses aren't possible. I am getting it under our university site license. Claus On May 5, 2005, at 9:07, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Be it connected or not, since activating, in Tiger, firewall > logging and stealth mode, I'm now seeing bursts of port scanning > now and then, whether I'm at home on an AirPort network or (what's > more worrying) at work protected in principle by several layers of > university firewalls. ipfw.log contains many bursts of lines like > (10.0.1.2 is an address on my AirPort network, and I'm hiding the > other IPs to not get a poor guy's address showing up on Google) : > > May 5 08:32:29 Portable-de-Bruno ipfw: Stealth Mode connection > attempt to TCP 10.0.1.2:49987 from [...].73.26:80 > May 5 08:32:29 Portable-de-Bruno ipfw: Stealth Mode connection > attempt to TCP 10.0.1.2:49986 from [...].73.26:80 > May 5 08:32:34 Portable-de-Bruno ipfw: Stealth Mode connection > attempt to TCP 10.0.1.2:49965 from [...].87.2:80 > > Scary! (I hope I'm not misinterpreting these messages as port scan > attempts.) > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Thu May 5 08:07:47 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:07:47 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <8CD2F377-043A-44A2-A4FC-320914C3E5D5@mac.com> References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> <1D4F821B-31CF-428C-B8DF-A5FFC80C9DA9@umich.edu> <8CD2F377-043A-44A2-A4FC-320914C3E5D5@mac.com> Message-ID: Am 05.05.2005 um 09:07 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > May 5 08:32:29 Portable-de-Bruno ipfw: Stealth Mode connection > attempt to TCP 10.0.1.2:49987 from [...].73.26:80 > May 5 08:32:29 Portable-de-Bruno ipfw: Stealth Mode connection > attempt to TCP 10.0.1.2:49986 from [...].73.26:80 > May 5 08:32:34 Portable-de-Bruno ipfw: Stealth Mode connection > attempt to TCP 10.0.1.2:49965 from [...].87.2:80 > Their targets are usually MS based. The PCs have sleepers that wait for an outside call to become activated to distribute spam or to attack some company. Since the 'developers' of that malware do not know where the programmes wait inside the infected PCs, they have to scan from the outside all IP adresses for responsive, open, ports. Could be that most of the IP traffic is spam and such searching. -- Greetings Pete The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny..." [Isaac Asimov] --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Thu May 5 08:09:35 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:09:35 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and Lucida doesn't In-Reply-To: <875D7721-6BD2-4AA8-B42C-5DE4706F9983@ucalgary.ca> References: <875D7721-6BD2-4AA8-B42C-5DE4706F9983@ucalgary.ca> Message-ID: On May 5, 2005, at 3:42 AM, Gordon Sick wrote: > Further to my earlier post, I've been pursuing the issue of being > able to edit pdfs created by PDFLatex on Mac OS X with Illustrator > CS1. I had earlier thought that this wouldn't work at all, because > Illustrator won't recognize the fonts, but I now find that I > Illustrator WILL correctly handle the default CMR fonts with no > problem but NOT the Lucida Y&Y fonts. > I noticed that LaTeXiT includes the fonts in ansi encoding. I thought you reported that LaTeXiT produced output that could be read by Illustrator. Since LaTeXiT has a bug that prevents a change of the preamble (at least I couldn't get it to work), I have no idea if there is something LaTeXiT does to enable this type of use. > I've checked my system, and I don't have the Tex-Illustrator > version of CMR on the system. When I open the CMR text (created > with TeXShop 2 defaults) in Illustrator CS, I can see the CMR fonts > and even select the text line and add text. I know it is the Tex > version of CMR, because when I type a space, it gives me a ? mark > rather than a space. > [snip] > Does anybody have any suggestions as to where I should look to > figure out how to get the Y&Y Lucida fonts being treated the same > as the CMR fonts in Illustrator? I have no idea to get them treated the same. I _think_ it has to do with the encoding, which is tricky, no matter how you look at it. Do you need to _edit_ the text in Illustrator, or do you merely need to _use_ the resulting image? If it is the latter, you can remove the fonts (and replace them by their outlines) and include the result in Illustrator. The following call to GhostScript should do the trick: gs -dNOPAUSE -dNOCACHE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite \ -sOutputFile=your-output-file.pdf \ your-source-file.pdf The -dNOCACHE should remove all fonts, and simply draw the outlines instead. There is no (easy) way to edit the resulting text, but at the very least you can include the result in Illustrator. HTMH, Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From osxtex at wehlou.com Thu May 5 08:26:25 2005 From: osxtex at wehlou.com (Martin Wehlou) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 14:26:25 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> <1D4F821B-31CF-428C-B8DF-A5FFC80C9DA9@umich.edu> <8CD2F377-043A-44A2-A4FC-320914C3E5D5@mac.com> Message-ID: <427A10F1.2090208@wehlou.com> Claus, > I noticed these attempts too. From the ip addresses I can tell that > they are from my internet provider. If they are legitimate or not and > don't know, but the connection isn't affected by my stealth settings. When I lived in Belgium, the internet provider there (Telenet) prohibited users from running servers of any kind. They verified compliance by regularly portscanning us subscribers that way. Causing my BlackICE alarms to go off all the time. I don't know if that is what you're seeing, but I wouldn't be surprised. Since you could run HTTP, SMTP and other servers on any old port number, they would have to scan all over the port map. Check with your ISP if they have this in their policy, and if so, simply ignore it. -- Dr. J. Martin Wehlou MD, CISSP www.wehlou.com --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Thu May 5 08:43:10 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 07:43:10 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <933713f7d322e0eaa4fbc732d71633dc@gmx.de> Message-ID: On 5/5/05 3:19 AM, "Thorsten Scheffner" wrote: > Hello, > > I read the discussion about viruses on mac and want to add one scanner: > I use clamAV ( http://www.clamav.net ) as antivirus tool with ClamXav ( > http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/24449 ) as gui > frontend. It is a freeware scanner for unix, mac and win. It is really > slow, a scan of my 30 GB-volume took about 2,5 hours and it does not > find viruses on the classic enviroment. But it seems to "know" a lot of > different viruses. Worth a look, I think. > > On the other hand - Symantec is beta-testing a new version of NAV. > Maybe this will give us a little more protection. > > Have a nice day, > > Yours > > Thorsten > Howdy, I've been using this also but there are a few things it won't search. It seems it isn't able to scan .sit files although it can look into other types of archives. It really needs the ability to drag and drop files for analysis; the author told me he's working on that for the next iteration. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From agoralczyk at gmail.com Wed May 4 07:27:46 2005 From: agoralczyk at gmail.com (Armin Goralczyk) Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 13:27:46 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] fink tetex vs. i-installer Message-ID: Hi list I am new to the list, so this might have been discussed before (Sorry). With my Tiger upgrade I thought switching from fink tetex to i- installer tetex. Can anybody explain the differences, drawbacks or advantages of either one. Thanks for advice Armin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From wadams at atlis.com Thu May 5 10:21:28 2005 From: wadams at atlis.com (William F. Adams) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:21:28 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] fink tetex vs. i-installer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 4, 2005, at 7:27 AM, Armin Goralczyk wrote: > I am new to the list, so this might have been discussed before (Sorry). > With my Tiger upgrade I thought switching from fink tetex to > i-installer tetex. Can anybody explain the differences, drawbacks or > advantages of either one. fink normally hides things away in a special directory i-Installer uses standard system directories fink is tested to work w/ other fink-installed things i-Installer is guaranteed to work w/ things which expect files to be in standard locations i-Installer is the norm for projects like TeXshop, iTeXmac, XeTeX, &c. to work with and ``just works'' William -- William Adams, publishing specialist voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708 www.atlis.com --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From wadams at atlis.com Thu May 5 10:21:28 2005 From: wadams at atlis.com (William F. Adams) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 10:21:28 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] fink tetex vs. i-installer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 4, 2005, at 7:27 AM, Armin Goralczyk wrote: > I am new to the list, so this might have been discussed before (Sorry). > With my Tiger upgrade I thought switching from fink tetex to > i-installer tetex. Can anybody explain the differences, drawbacks or > advantages of either one. fink normally hides things away in a special directory i-Installer uses standard system directories fink is tested to work w/ other fink-installed things i-Installer is guaranteed to work w/ things which expect files to be in standard locations i-Installer is the norm for projects like TeXshop, iTeXmac, XeTeX, &c. to work with and ``just works'' William -- William Adams, publishing specialist voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708 www.atlis.com --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Schremmer.Alain at verizon.net Thu May 5 20:28:14 2005 From: Schremmer.Alain at verizon.net (Alain Schremmer) Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 20:28:14 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <482620AD-E56F-4878-AACB-BEB1BE4F71F5@uni-bonn.de> References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> <482620AD-E56F-4878-AACB-BEB1BE4F71F5@uni-bonn.de> Message-ID: <427ABA1E.9040904@verizon.net> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: > > On May 5, 2005, at 2:00 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > >> Earlier, looking for swap files, we had found on my colleague's HD >> one /private/var/vm/swapfile0 (and indeed I have one too, 64 MB in >> size, on my Tiger PowerBook), but no swapfile1 which was the file >> reported by Norton AV as infected. Odd! >> > > Just a small remark: when the load average goes up, OS X will create > those swapfiles and number them consecutively. When the load average > goes down again over an extended period of time, it will delete them > again. I have seen this behavior on my box: after doing some memory- > intensive stuff, I could see swapfiles0 through 3 in /var/vm. After a > while of normal use, swapfiles 2 and 3 were deleted again. So, to sum > up: the fact that you couldn't find the offending file doesn't mean > it wasn't there when Norton reported it. > > This being said: I've stayed away from all Norton products since the > advent of OS X, and my computing exeprience has been a lot smoother. > Even on Mac OS 9, the latest atavars of Norton System Works were > extremely unstable and dangerous; with OS X, it was disastrous. A couple of days ago I renewed my subscription to Norton Antivirus. Today, I got "hit by the Hacktool". I am glad I saw the previous exchange so I did not panick and since I kept it I will now know what to do. Still, I don't like that and I was wondering if you would say what you are using instead. Regards --schremmer --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From dac at panix.com Thu May 5 21:18:59 2005 From: dac at panix.com (david craig) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 21:18:59 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Swapfiles [WAS: OT: effective Macintosh Trojan ...] Message-ID: > OS X will create those swapfiles and number them consecutively. When > the load average goes down again over an extended period of time, it > will delete them again. I have never EVER observed OS X to delete swapfiles. I notice them because even with 1 GB of RAM, applications like Graphic Converter, Retrospect, and Maple will often cause the OS to spawn four or five swapfiles, which leads to noticeable system slowdoans and some interesting Finder bugs. Noticing that these refuse to go away, I've even experimented by quitting every application I can and leaving the machine be, once for as long as an entire weekend -- the swapfiles were still there. Because they bug me so much I've been keeping an close eye on system swapfile management for many months now, and not once in all that time has the number of swapfiles on my system gone down short of a reboot. YMMV. David Craig --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amanfroi at mac.com Thu May 5 21:29:59 2005 From: amanfroi at mac.com (Aldo Manfroi) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 20:29:59 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Swapfiles [WAS: OT: effective Macintosh Trojan ...] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9EC1C415-85F7-475B-8E94-14B377D62474@mac.com> I have to agree with David. I have not done any scientific test, but I have never seen the number of swapfiles decrease without a reboot. The way I notice this is on my iBook, where HD space is tight. When many swapfiles are created, the HD free space gets very low. I then quit all applications and wait to see if the free HD space ever increases. It does not, and I then prefer to reboot. AJM On May 5, 2005, at 20:18, david craig wrote: > > >> OS X will create those swapfiles and number them consecutively. >> When the load average goes down again over an extended period of >> time, it will delete them again. >> > > I have never EVER observed OS X to delete swapfiles. I notice them > because even with 1 GB of RAM, applications like Graphic Converter, > Retrospect, and Maple will often cause the OS to spawn four or five > swapfiles, which leads to noticeable system slowdoans and some > interesting Finder bugs. Noticing that these refuse to go away, > I've even experimented by quitting every application I can and > leaving the machine be, once for as long as an entire weekend -- > the swapfiles were still there. Because they bug me so much I've > been keeping an close eye on system swapfile management for many > months now, and not once in all that time has the number of > swapfiles on my system gone down short of a reboot. YMMV. > > David Craig > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From justin at mac.com Thu May 5 22:03:51 2005 From: justin at mac.com (Justin Walker) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 19:03:51 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Swapfiles [WAS: OT: effective Macintosh Trojan ...] In-Reply-To: <9EC1C415-85F7-475B-8E94-14B377D62474@mac.com> References: <9EC1C415-85F7-475B-8E94-14B377D62474@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 5, 2005, at 18:29, Aldo Manfroi wrote: > I have to agree with David. > I have not done any scientific test, but I have never seen the number > of swapfiles decrease without a reboot. The way I notice this is on my > iBook, where HD space is tight. When many swapfiles are created, the > HD free space gets very low. I then quit all applications and wait to > see if the free HD space ever increases. It does not, and I then > prefer to reboot. To add to the chatter, but from across the aisle, creation and deletion of swap files is normal behavior, and I observe the number of files go up and down as I start and stop large apps. If I start apps in some order, and terminate in a different order, the behavior can vary wildly, depending on the relative sizes of the apps, but the swap files do indeed go away. The system will even consolidate and remove excess swap files, as needed. I've seen this (expected) behavior since 10.1 at least. Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for General Semantics -------- "Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals. Well, except the weasel." - Homer J Simpson -------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From sick at ucalgary.ca Thu May 5 22:24:09 2005 From: sick at ucalgary.ca (Gordon Sick) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 20:24:09 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and Lucida doesn't In-Reply-To: <68013.28440@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <68013.28440@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: Maarten, Thanks for your prompt reply. Your suggestion doesn't seem to work, comments below: On 5-May-05, at 6:00 PM, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List wrote: > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and > Lucida doesn't > From: "Maarten Sneep" > Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 14:09:35 +0200 > [snip] > I noticed that LaTeXiT includes the fonts in ansi encoding. I thought > you reported that LaTeXiT produced output that could be read by > Illustrator. Since LaTeXiT has a bug that prevents a change of the > preamble (at least I couldn't get it to work), I have no idea if > there is something LaTeXiT does to enable this type of use. > > I now think that the LaTeXiT issue is a red herring. I only got it to work with CMR fonts (i.e. it produced output that I could properly open in Illustrator. I can do the same with TeXShop. I didn't think I could even do that with TeXShop before (with the CMR fonts), so my interest in this issue was resurrected by my partial success. >> Does anybody have any suggestions as to where I should look to >> figure out how to get the Y&Y Lucida fonts being treated the same >> as the CMR fonts in Illustrator? >> > > I have no idea to get them treated the same. I _think_ it has to do > with the encoding, which is tricky, no matter how you look at it. Do > you need to _edit_ the text in Illustrator, or do you merely need to > _use_ the resulting image? Outlining the fonts is sort of OK. I don't need to edit the result (I want to be able to label diagrams, and want LateX to build the labels). By outlining, I assume that they won't render on screen as nicely, because they lose their hinting. But, I would expect it all to print fine, so this is worth pursuing. > If it is the latter, you can remove the > fonts (and replace them by their outlines) and include the result in > Illustrator. The following call to GhostScript should do the trick: > > gs -dNOPAUSE -dNOCACHE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite \ > -sOutputFile=your-output-file.pdf \ > your-source-file.pdf > > The -dNOCACHE should remove all fonts, and simply draw the outlines > instead. There is no (easy) way to edit the resulting text, but at > the very least you can include the result in Illustrator. I tried this. I assume that the backslashes are escapes to new lines, as when I copy such lines from the terminal, the Terminal spreads them out on one line. Here is the output I get from one of many attempts: Gordons-PB:~ gsick$ gs -dNOPAUSE -dNOCACHE -dBATCH - sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=/Users/gsick/Desktop/Scratch/ Scratch3H.pdf /Users/gsick/Desktop/Scratch/Scratch3.pdf AFPL Ghostscript 8.51 (2005-04-18) Copyright (C) 2005 artofcode LLC, Benicia, CA. All rights reserved. This software comes with NO WARRANTY: see the file PUBLIC for details. Processing pages 1 through 1. Page 1 The command line is all on one line and my paste has put in the underscore _ Anyway, this leaves me with fonts (I can see and select them in Preview). And, Illustrator still seems to complain that it can't find the Lucida fonts and substitutes for them. > > HTMH, > > Maarten > Thanks for your help, Maarten. I should try to find some documentation for Ghostscript, to see why I didn't get the outlines. It is amazing that the platform that is #1 for graphics (Mac OS X) and the premiere vector drawing program (Illustrator) and the premiere typesetting engine (LaTeX) are all incompatible in this way. It is particularly frustrating that this works for CMR, but not for the Lucida. --cheers, Gordon --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jguyer at his.com Fri May 6 01:46:00 2005 From: jguyer at his.com (Jon Guyer) Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 22:46:00 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Swapfiles [WAS: OT: effective Macintosh Trojan ...] In-Reply-To: References: <9EC1C415-85F7-475B-8E94-14B377D62474@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 5, 2005, at 7:03 PM, Justin Walker wrote: > To add to the chatter, but from across the aisle, creation and > deletion of swap files is normal behavior, and I observe the number of > files go up and down as I start and stop large apps. If I start apps > in some order, and terminate in a different order, the behavior can > vary wildly, depending on the relative sizes of the apps, but the swap > files do indeed go away. The system will even consolidate and remove > excess swap files, as needed. > > I've seen this (expected) behavior since 10.1 at least. Me too!! --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Fri May 6 03:43:45 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:43:45 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <427ABA1E.9040904@verizon.net> References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> <482620AD-E56F-4878-AACB-BEB1BE4F71F5@uni-bonn.de> <427ABA1E.9040904@verizon.net> Message-ID: <7A7D2D29-94F0-4DFF-A56B-CC2FF748B9FB@mac.com> Le 6 mai 05 ? 02:28, Alain Schremmer a ?crit : > A couple of days ago I renewed my subscription to Norton Antivirus. > Today, I got "hit by the Hacktool". I am glad I saw the previous > exchange so I did not panick and since I kept it I will now know > what to do. It seems the problem has finally got wider exposure on the web, as more and more people were being hit by it. A piece of information that I found most helpful is this post on the Apple discussion forums . As it turns out, Hacktool.Underhand isn't a virus or Trojan, but simply a bug in Norton AV's latest virus definition file, which was too broad and identified legitimate background system maintenance tasks, such as management of swap files, as viral. Symantec has finally acknowledged the problem and released yesterday (May 5) a corrected virus definition . > Still, I don't like that and I was wondering if you would say what > you are using instead. At present I'm not using anything: I simply take care to never open (or forward to other people) an email attachment before checking from other sources that it is legitimate; and (but that's more antiscam than antivirus) to always look at the source of email messages containing hyperlinks, before clicking on them, to infer from the html code whether the hyperlinks actually do what they pretend to be doing. But that's just stopgap measures: I would prefer to have an antivirus running, and I'm waiting for an update to be released, compatible with Tiger. Though, as a Virex user, I must confess that, after a brief trial period, I had disabled background scanning and scanning of mounted volumes, to only leave scan-on-demand, for performance issues (and because I don't like very much to have background-running software, other than the OS, to avoid unhappy interference). Or maybe Apple did suppress Virex from .Mac on purpose, and is working on a home-brand antivirus software, to be announced at Steve's WWDC keynote? Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bb at creativeeyes.at Fri May 6 04:47:39 2005 From: bb at creativeeyes.at (Bernhard Barkow) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:47:39 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <7A7D2D29-94F0-4DFF-A56B-CC2FF748B9FB@mac.com> References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> <482620AD-E56F-4878-AACB-BEB1BE4F71F5@uni-bonn.de> <427ABA1E.9040904@verizon.net> <7A7D2D29-94F0-4DFF-A56B-CC2FF748B9FB@mac.com> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 6. Mai 2005, at 9:43, Bruno Voisin wrote: > >> A couple of days ago I renewed my subscription to Norton >> Antivirus. Today, I got "hit by the Hacktool". I am glad I saw the >> previous exchange so I did not panick and since I kept it I will >> now know what to do. >> > > It seems the problem has finally got wider exposure on the web, as > more and more people were being hit by it. A piece of information > that I found most helpful is this post on the Apple discussion > forums 0 at .68ae26a7/99>. > > As it turns out, Hacktool.Underhand isn't a virus or Trojan, but > simply a bug in Norton AV's latest virus definition file, which was > too broad and identified legitimate background system maintenance > tasks, such as management of swap files, as viral. Symantec has > finally acknowledged the problem and released yesterday (May 5) a > corrected virus definition avcenter/download/pages/US-NMC.html>. > > >> Still, I don't like that and I was wondering if you would say what >> you are using instead. >> > > At present I'm not using anything: I simply take care to never open > (or forward to other people) an email attachment before checking > from other sources that it is legitimate; and (but that's more > antiscam than antivirus) to always look at the source of email > messages containing hyperlinks, before clicking on them, to infer > from the html code whether the hyperlinks actually do what they > pretend to be doing. > > But that's just stopgap measures: I would prefer to have an > antivirus running, and I'm waiting for an update to be released, > compatible with Tiger. Though, as a Virex user, I must confess > that, after a brief trial period, I had disabled background > scanning and scanning of mounted volumes, to only leave scan-on- > demand, for performance issues (and because I don't like very much > to have background-running software, other than the OS, to avoid > unhappy interference). > OK, maybe this can help: I spent some time yesterday trying to modify an AppleScript (sent to me by Maarten Sneep, thanks a lot!) in order to use it with Clam AV for on-demand scanning of emails. It's a very simple solution, but in my opinion quite reasonable for use on Macs. It is still experimental, and there is no great documentation coming with it, but if you want to give it a try, look at http://www.creativeeyes.at/tools/clamav.php HTH, Bernhard ____________________________________________________ _________________________________ Bernhard Barkow __ __ __ __ mail bb at creativeeyes.at __ www.creativeeyes.at __ __ Phone +43 699 12660415 __ Fax +43 1 8775334 __ ___________________ gpg key ID _ A89F09C45921020D __ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCey8uqJ8JxFkhAg0RAqBtAKDJtDaZCSQXRFZG7KwVv7rauWkRLgCgmGuy gsBIN4sMyVD8vO27mbe8Q0c= =IJ5/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Fri May 6 04:56:45 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:56:45 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] fink tetex vs. i-installer In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79a1e4e3065dfee28fcfca37fafeff7d@rna.nl> On May 5, 2005, at 16:21, William F. Adams wrote: > On May 4, 2005, at 7:27 AM, Armin Goralczyk wrote: > >> I am new to the list, so this might have been discussed before >> (Sorry). >> With my Tiger upgrade I thought switching from fink tetex to >> i-installer tetex. Can anybody explain the differences, drawbacks or >> advantages of either one. > > fink normally hides things away in a special directory > i-Installer uses standard system directories > > fink is tested to work w/ other fink-installed things > i-Installer is guaranteed to work w/ things which expect files to be > in standard locations > > i-Installer is the norm for projects like TeXshop, iTeXmac, XeTeX, &c. > to work with and ``just works'' Under Tiger, not everything has been tested and I already know one issue which might not work (ghostscript in stall on a non-X11 system). G --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ansobol at mac.com Fri May 6 05:00:50 2005 From: ansobol at mac.com (Andrei Sobolevskii) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 13:00:50 +0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: fink tetex vs. i-installer Message-ID: <5821C436-BE0D-11D9-827A-000A95C51BEE@mac.com> Armin, earlier this year I posted a similar question to the list. I don't know if threaded archives are available for 2005, but look for the thread migration from Fink to Gerben Wierda's TeX in digests starting from #1295: I got a lot of helpful advice from the people on the list, hopefully some of it will be of help for you too. Best, Andrei --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Fri May 6 05:08:59 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:08:59 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> <482620AD-E56F-4878-AACB-BEB1BE4F71F5@uni-bonn.de> <427ABA1E.9040904@verizon.net> <7A7D2D29-94F0-4DFF-A56B-CC2FF748B9FB@mac.com> Message-ID: <142951C4-DAFC-4E79-9F69-0A353FFCF847@mac.com> Le 6 mai 05 ? 10:47, Bernhard Barkow a ?crit : > OK, maybe this can help: I spent some time yesterday trying to > modify an AppleScript (sent to me by Maarten Sneep, thanks a lot!) > in order to use it with Clam AV for on-demand scanning of emails. > It's a very simple solution, but in my opinion quite reasonable for > use on Macs. > It is still experimental, and there is no great documentation > coming with it, but if you want to give it a try, look at > http://www.creativeeyes.at/tools/clamav.php Thanks, I'll have a look at it. The ClamAV site points to a Mac OS X Server page, indicating that Server 10.4 includes now SpamAssassin for antispam, and ClamAV for antivirus, at the mail server level . Seems like an indication that ClamAV works well with OS X. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Fri May 6 06:09:03 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:09:03 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Hyperlinks not working in TeXShop 2.01 Message-ID: <48FCFE3C-6467-4A16-8A6F-83D01A9EBE1E@mac.com> It seems hyperlinks aren't working in TeXShop 2.01 on Tiger. Assuming a hyperlink is created in the way mentioned at TeXShop's site , then in TeXShop's preview window the hyperlink appears as a hyperlink, when leaving the mouse pointer on it a small yellow box arises displaying the URL, but clicking on the hyperlink does nothing. I've verified in Preview.app that the hyperlink works indeed as it should (ie clicking on it opens the corresponding page in Safari.app). I've tried several hyperlinks, putting in the preamble: \usepackage[colorlinks=true, bookmarks=true, pdfstartview=FitH]{hyperref} and then in the document, for example: \href{http://w3.msi.vxu.se/~bni/wavephenomena05/}{Conference on Mathematical Modelling of Wave Phenomena} In both pdfTeX, putting "pdftex" as a package option, and in XeTeX, putting "dvipdfm" as a package option, the result is the same. Thus it seems the problem lies in the preview window itself. Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Fri May 6 07:12:09 2005 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan Litchfield) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 23:12:09 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Sideways longtable Message-ID: <82eaa86ddeee8750ca1a8995fa857d80@alphabyte.co.nz> Hi all, My apologies for the cross-post. I need to rotate a longtable by 90?. At the moment it covers about five pages. Any clues? I have read through the longtable documentation and saw nothing there and I have tried a number of combinations, but all returning unsatisfactory results. For example, I have tried the rotfloat package, rotating, etc. Also, is the footer in longtable really limited to one line only? Thanks Alan --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macmechanic at fastmail.fm Fri May 6 08:54:27 2005 From: macmechanic at fastmail.fm (Rene Borgella) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 08:54:27 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] virus protection Message-ID: Folks: there is a good discussion and info at info re. Norton, clam, and the hacktool "virus" also, there've been reports of some new viruses that are not on definitions lists quite yet, so extra caution is warranted. At a large university I'm affiliated with, all incoming attachments were rejected for several hours as norton and sophos were apparently not picking something up correctly. ren? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Fri May 6 09:12:47 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:12:47 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <142951C4-DAFC-4E79-9F69-0A353FFCF847@mac.com> References: <81613.43757@email.esm.psu.edu> <482620AD-E56F-4878-AACB-BEB1BE4F71F5@uni-bonn.de> <427ABA1E.9040904@verizon.net> <7A7D2D29-94F0-4DFF-A56B-CC2FF748B9FB@mac.com> <142951C4-DAFC-4E79-9F69-0A353FFCF847@mac.com> Message-ID: <03b61ecc2b3eb1d5dad72523fb892096@msrce.howard.edu> On May 6, 2005, at 5:08 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 6 mai 05 ? 10:47, Bernhard Barkow a ?crit : > >> OK, maybe this can help: I spent some time yesterday trying to modify >> an AppleScript (sent to me by Maarten Sneep, thanks a lot!) in order >> to use it with Clam AV for on-demand scanning of emails. It's a very >> simple solution, but in my opinion quite reasonable for use on Macs. >> It is still experimental, and there is no great documentation coming >> with it, but if you want to give it a try, look at >> http://www.creativeeyes.at/tools/clamav.php > > Thanks, I'll have a look at it. The ClamAV site points to a Mac OS X > Server page, indicating that Server 10.4 includes now SpamAssassin for > antispam, and ClamAV for antivirus, at the mail server level > . Seems > like an indication that ClamAV works well with OS X. Well, clamav works with all UNIX like operating systems. I have it set up on my office mail server as a sendmail milter. In the last few months it has stopped 760 messages containing 79 different viruses from reaching my 20 users. Spamassassin also works well on any system really, since it is written in perl. However, since it is written in perl it is a tremendous resource hog. The more proper solution would be to make sure that spam and viruses never reach your computer in the first place, so a solution like greylisting is ideal see http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/ for more info. I don't know how things are set up for you, but these tools generally work best at the mail server level, but I imagine that clamav could be run to look at files you download. Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Fri May 6 10:17:43 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 16:17:43 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tcl/Tk, Alpha and Tiger Message-ID: <60E747BA-A872-42C7-9F15-79EB0DB636D1@mac.com> Again I'm asking an Alpha question here, as I'm not sure where to go for questions related to Alpha and Tcl/Tk. Going by chance on the Tcl/Tk Aqua page I just saw that a new page on Tiger compatibility has been written , telling in particular that most of Tcl/Tk Aqua BI 8.4.9 is included in Tiger, that a new 8.4.9.1 had been released for Tiger and that previous versions, if installed after Tiger, have overwritten one of its components /usr/bin/wish4.7. Unfortunately I installed version 8.4.9. Arghhh! Hence the following questions: - How can I get Tiger to exactly the state in which it was before installing Tcl/Tk Aqua 8.4.9? Contrary to other software packages, Tcl/Tk Aqua is very nice in that it includes an uninstall script, but that won't recreate the portions of Tiger that may have been overwritten. Do I need to Archive & Install Tiger just for this? If that's needed I'll do it, but frankly I would give anything for not having to lose again one or two days just reinstalling Tiger and then my additional applications one by one, then redefining my printers, etc. - The above page mentions Tcl/Tk Aqua BI, Tcl/Tk Aqua Darwin, TkAqua, TclTkAqua CVS and more. Help! It's difficult nay impossible, when not a specialist, to understand the differences and relations between all these things. - Is it correct to infer from this page that the portions of Tcl/Tk included in Tiger are all that's required to run AlphaX? I'm not interested in Tcl/Tk Aqua per se, only as a pre-requisite for runnning AlphaX (and possibly DarwinPorts). - Is it correct, too, to infer that the fix in Tcl/Tk Alpha BI 8.4.9.1, compared with version 8.4.9, is that it only installs those portions of Tcl/Tk not included inside Tiger, without overwriting anything? If there's a risk of overwrite, then I would never even remotely consider to install it. Help! Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Fri May 6 10:24:31 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:24:31 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >>I noticed that I now have a deamon user for ClamAV on Tiger (I did a >>clean install), so Apple knows about it in any case. can someone say more about this? A lot of people have reported this but did'nt know what it was. Most have uninstalled the software. Any advice appreciated (and will be passed on to other users) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Fri May 6 10:33:43 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 16:33:43 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> Le 6 mai 05 ? 16:24, Jason Davies a ?crit : > can someone say more about this? A lot of people have reported this > but > did'nt know what it was. Most have uninstalled the software. Any > advice > appreciated (and will be passed on to other users) When installing, ClamXav creates a clamav group and a clamav user, visible under NetInfo Manager and used (according to the doc) for retrieving updates. Is that what you mean? According to the FAQ, there were problems with previous versions of ClamXav, in that these user and group were not created completely during the install, with the consequence that the Reset Password utility on the OS X disks could no longer be used, leaving you in the void should you forget your password. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Fri May 6 10:24:40 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 15:24:40 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Swapfiles [WAS: OT: effective Macintosh Trojan ...] In-Reply-To: <9EC1C415-85F7-475B-8E94-14B377D62474@mac.com> Message-ID: >I have not done any scientific test, but I have never seen the number >of swapfiles decrease without a reboot. The way I notice this is on my >iBook, where HD space is tight. When many swapfiles are created, the >HD free space gets very low. I then quit all applications and wait to >see if the free HD space ever increases. It does not, and I then >prefer to reboot. for the (OT) record, when I get huge VM use with Soundsoap, quitting the app *does* allow them to clear without reboot. The OS seems to only salvage the space when it *has* to (as usually happens with Soundsoap). --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From koch at math.uoregon.edu Fri May 6 12:10:53 2005 From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:10:53 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno In-Reply-To: <76285FCB-0083-4CEA-8053-3612D20DE415@mac.com> References: <76285FCB-0083-4CEA-8053-3612D20DE415@mac.com> Message-ID: <4F430445-5864-4BB8-915E-3F30C04915B9@math.uoregon.edu> Folks, In general I don't like to clutter up the mailing list with messages about a mere front end. Let me reply to Bruno in public, since that will give TeXShop users a chance to influence future program design. On May 4, 2005, at 9:44 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Something I just remarked with TeXShop on Tiger: the Preview Window > Magnification doesn't stick. On my setup it's set to 150, but > apparently that's not taken into account; instead, it seems Fit to > Window is always applied when a document is opened. TeXShop uses the "Preview Window Magnification" number only if you have set the window magnification behavior to "Fixed Magnification." I changed the default value for this preference to "Fit to Window" because I thought many users would prefer that mode. To obtain the old behavior, change back to "Fixed Magnification." (I see that in Preferences this item is called "After Window Resize," which is definitely misleading. I'll change that.) > > What I also miss is no longer having Fit to Width as an available > magnification. It seems there's now only Fit to Window, with > different effects depending on whether Default Page Style is set to > Single Page or Multi-Page: Originally TeXShop had rather primitive preview window display options. Then Mitsuhiro Shishikura rewrote the code. Apple's PDFKit design is almost isomorphic to Shishikura's design --- compliments to Shishikura for doing a good job! TeXShop still contains Shishikura's magnification code and his code to select pdf regions for drag and drop. One feature of Shishikura's design isn't in PDFKit: the ability to fit magnification to width or length. That is why these features are missing from 2.01. I'd be very reluctant to add them back, since PDFKit commands would have to be overridden. In general, accepting Apple's design decisions leads to stable code, while trying to force changes leads to instabilities and compatibility problems in the future. > > - In Single Page, the magnification is set such that the whole page > fits within the window. > > - In Multi-Page, it is set such that the page width occupies the > whole width of the window. > > That makes sense. > > Thanks, in any case, for having fixed the bug in which, in previous > versions of TeXShop, when moving one page up or down, the lateral > centering of the page was lost. These thanks, of course, go to Apple. > > A request: keyboard shortcuts for scrolling up or down, and also > one page up or down. It would be nice to be able to scroll a whole > document without having to use the mouse. Wait! After trying some > key combinations, it seems you can actually do this: Space scrolls > one screen down, and Shift-Space one screen up. In earlier versions, we handled keystroke shortcuts ourselves. In 2.01, I just accepted the default PDFKit behavior. So the left and right arrow keys move the display horizontally, the up and down arrow keys move the display up or down by a few lines, the page up and page down keys move up or down by a page, and the home and end keys go to the start and end of a document. Moreover, space goes one page down and shift-space goes one page up. Users have pointed out that Preview adds other defaults to these and TeXShop should follow suit. In Preview, command-left arrow is page up and command-left arrow is page down. That will be trivial to implement and will appear in the next version. Also in Preview, left arrow and right arrow move left and right only if the horizontal scroll bar is active; otherwise they do page up and page down. I'll implement that. In Preview, command[ and command] are shortcuts for Back and Forward. It would be trivial to implement that, but unfortunately TeXShop already uses these shortcuts for Indent and Comment. So a first question for users: can I change the shortcuts for Indent, Comment, Unindent, and Uncomment, and if so what should I use? > > A suggestion: something convenient in recent applications like > Pages and Keynote (from iWork) is in the Help menu, in addition to > the Help item itself, another Keyboard Shortcuts item opening a > separate help document (in Help Viewer) containing a table of all > keyboard shortcuts for the application. Good suggestion; I'll try to do it after the rush of adding small features ends. > > I second the request, made last week-end, of being able to hard- > wrap text in TexShop. Possibly a switch enabling "Hard Wrap As You > Type", and a command "Hard Wrap", pretty much as for spell checking. There are two problems with this common request. The most serious is that I wouldn't use this feature. It is dangerous for a programmer to add a feature for others but not use it himself, because then the feature doesn't get seriously tested. Since I don't use editors which work like this, I have some really elementary questions. If I'm typing a line and it gets too long, the cursor reaches back to a word ending and moves the text after that word to the next line. But what happens if I edit in the middle of a line? Do words at the end sort of dribble down to their own lines? What happens if I copy and paste? Do lines get reformatted? Etc. Etc. Pretty soon, what sounds like a simple change requires modifications all over the place. The second problem is that NSTextEdit wasn't really designed for hard wrapping. There isn't any switch to just "turn it on." So I'd have to force that class to do things it wasn't designed to do, leading to possible problems along the lines mentioned in the "fit to width" discussion. I'm not opposed to such a mode. We really need to find a volunteer who would actually use this mode to write the code. At present, TeXShop's editing code isn't factored out very well, so adding such a "hard wrap class" might be tricky, but I'd volunteer to do the factoring if someone else would write the new class. > > Finally: is it planned at some point to add to TeXShop the ability > to Cmd-Drag for discontinuous selection, and Alt-Drag for column > selection, as now allowed by NSTextView? (As I don't know whether > TeXShop uses NSTextView, this suggestion may make no sense at all.) This would be trivial to implement. TeXShop does use NSTextView, and so in a sense these already work. The trouble is that Cmd-click has been overridden for synchronization. Is there a reasonable substitute for Cmd-click for synchronization? Or are folks so used to this that they don't want a change? > > Bruno Voisin PS. In a later message, Bruno complained that hyperlinks don't work in 2.01. They do work, but you have to select the "A" tool to make them work. Probably I should add a command shortcut so that when another tool is selected you can temporarily return to the "A" tool. One trouble is that most command modifications are used with the magnification tools already, to select various magnification options. > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amanfroi at mac.com Fri May 6 12:19:09 2005 From: amanfroi at mac.com (Aldo Manfroi) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:19:09 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Swapfiles [WAS: OT: effective Macintosh Trojan ...] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, given all the posters that say they don't have problems with swapfiles, I will have to do more careful testing. But now I also have Tiger on the iBook, so we'll see how that behaves. AJM On May 6, 2005, at 9:24, Jason Davies wrote: >> I have not done any scientific test, but I have never seen the number >> of swapfiles decrease without a reboot. The way I notice this is on my >> iBook, where HD space is tight. When many swapfiles are created, the >> HD free space gets very low. I then quit all applications and wait to >> see if the free HD space ever increases. It does not, and I then >> prefer to reboot. > > > for the (OT) record, when I get huge VM use with Soundsoap, quitting > the > app *does* allow them to clear without reboot. The OS seems to only > salvage the space when it *has* to (as usually happens with Soundsoap). > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Fri May 6 12:43:52 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:43:52 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno In-Reply-To: <4F430445-5864-4BB8-915E-3F30C04915B9@math.uoregon.edu> References: <76285FCB-0083-4CEA-8053-3612D20DE415@mac.com> <4F430445-5864-4BB8-915E-3F30C04915B9@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: Le 6 mai 05 ? 18:10, Richard Koch a ?crit : > In general, accepting Apple's design decisions leads to stable > code, while trying to force changes leads to instabilities and > compatibility problems in the future. I can but agree wholeheartedly with that! > In earlier versions, we handled keystroke shortcuts ourselves. In > 2.01, I just accepted the default PDFKit behavior. So the left and > right arrow keys move the display horizontally, the up and down > arrow keys move the display up or down by a few lines, the page up > and page down keys move up or down by a page, and the home and end > keys go to the start and end of a document. Moreover, space goes > one page down and shift-space goes one page up. Page-Up, Page-Down, Home and End are all very convenient navigation tools. However, on a PowerBook I never figured out how to use these: Page-Up appears on the Up arrow, Page-Down on the Down arrow, Home on the Left arrow and End on the Right arrow. I tried all key combinations I could think of (Cmd-Up, Shift-Up, etc.), without ever getting them. >> I second the request, made last week-end, of being able to hard- >> wrap text in TexShop. Possibly a switch enabling "Hard Wrap As You >> Type", and a command "Hard Wrap", pretty much as for spell checking. > > There are two problems with this common request. > > The most serious is that I wouldn't use this feature. It is > dangerous for a programmer to add a feature for others but not use > it himself, because then the feature doesn't get seriously tested. > > Since I don't use editors which work like this, I have some really > elementary questions. If I'm typing a line and it gets too long, > the cursor reaches back to a word ending and moves the text after > that word to the next line. But what happens if I edit in the > middle of a line? Do words at the end sort of dribble down to their > own lines? What happens if I copy and paste? Do lines get > reformatted? Etc. Etc. Pretty soon, what sounds like a simple > change requires modifications all over the place. I was thinking of an interface "? la Textures", with: - A switch "Hard Wrap As You Type", similar to "Spell Check As You Type", and such that text is hard-wrapped each time the cursor reaches the right edge of the window, or a user-specified position in its line (like 80 characters). - An item "Hard Wrap...", similar to "Spell Check" but applying to a selected area, and using the same rules as above. This would allow hard-wrapping a portion of text that has not been hard-wrapped yet, or correcting the wrapping of text that has been modified as you described. It wouldn't be convenient probably to hard wrap a whole document, as hand-placed line breaks are desirable for mathematical formulas and macro definitions, in particular. I'm advocating this since I had got used to it during years of practice of Textures. Hence I'm certainly biased, and there may be more efficient and straightforward ways to proceed. Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From whrose at gmail.com Mon May 2 18:18:03 2005 From: whrose at gmail.com (Wolter Rose) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 00:18:03 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: invalid character error message In-Reply-To: <47c3659105050215147bd2d222@mail.gmail.com> References: <47c3659105050215106c5e6e3d@mail.gmail.com> <47c3659105050215147bd2d222@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47c365910505021518a862064@mail.gmail.com> For some reason GMail is acting up. I try once more. I have a document with this preamble: --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From whrose at gmail.com Mon May 2 18:14:48 2005 From: whrose at gmail.com (Wolter Rose) Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 00:14:48 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: invalid character error message In-Reply-To: <47c3659105050215106c5e6e3d@mail.gmail.com> References: <47c3659105050215106c5e6e3d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <47c3659105050215147bd2d222@mail.gmail.com> Sorry, try again. I have a document with this preamble: %===== ====== ====== ===== ====== ====== ===== ====== ====== --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jguyer at his.com Fri May 6 12:57:58 2005 From: jguyer at his.com (Jon Guyer) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 09:57:58 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno In-Reply-To: References: <76285FCB-0083-4CEA-8053-3612D20DE415@mac.com> <4F430445-5864-4BB8-915E-3F30C04915B9@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: On May 6, 2005, at 9:43 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Page-Up, Page-Down, Home and End are all very convenient navigation > tools. However, on a PowerBook I never figured out how to use these: > Page-Up appears on the Up arrow, Page-Down on the Down arrow, Home on > the Left arrow and End on the Right arrow. I tried all key > combinations I could think of (Cmd-Up, Shift-Up, etc.), without ever > getting them. Try the "fn" key in combination with the arrow of choice. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Fri May 6 12:52:12 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:52:12 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno In-Reply-To: References: <76285FCB-0083-4CEA-8053-3612D20DE415@mac.com> <4F430445-5864-4BB8-915E-3F30C04915B9@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <3AB45201-1F4A-49A7-BF0D-8B627E7F0C63@mac.com> Le 6 mai 05 ? 18:43, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > Page-Up, Page-Down, Home and End are all very convenient navigation > tools. However, on a PowerBook I never figured out how to use > these: Page-Up appears on the Up arrow, Page-Down on the Down > arrow, Home on the Left arrow and End on the Right arrow. I tried > all key combinations I could think of (Cmd-Up, Shift-Up, etc.), > without ever getting them. OK, I just tried the last key combination I had never thought of. Results: Fn-Up -> Page-Up Fn-Down -> Page-Down Fn-Left -> Home Fn-Right -> End So now I just feel idiotic! Given the ease of these shortcuts, there's probably no necessity of implementing something else. (Except possibly for those ancient Apple keyboards, like the one with my PowerMac G4 400 MHz, having no Function key.) Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jguyer at his.com Fri May 6 13:06:36 2005 From: jguyer at his.com (Jon Guyer) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:06:36 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tcl/Tk, Alpha and Tiger In-Reply-To: <60E747BA-A872-42C7-9F15-79EB0DB636D1@mac.com> References: <60E747BA-A872-42C7-9F15-79EB0DB636D1@mac.com> Message-ID: <3be51310e850411ddb0c789d027619ee@his.com> On May 6, 2005, at 7:17 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > - Is it correct to infer from this page that the portions of Tcl/Tk > included in Tiger are all that's required to run AlphaX? Hopefully Daniel can give answers to the majority of your questions, but yes, this should be true. AlphaX does not need or use Tk at all. The Tcl libraries that are needed or recommended are indeed shipped with Tiger (TclAE, TclApplescript, TclResource, TclX, ...). --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From axretif at igo.com.mx Fri May 6 12:57:25 2005 From: axretif at igo.com.mx (Axel E. Retif) Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 11:57:25 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno In-Reply-To: Message-ID: El 5/6/05 11:43 AM, "Bruno Voisin" escribi?: > Page-Up appears on the Up arrow, Page-Down on the Down arrow, Home on > the Left arrow and End on the Right arrow. I tried all key > combinations I could think of (Cmd-Up, Shift-Up, etc.), without ever > getting them. fn key + Up arrow, etc. Best regards, Axel --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jguyer at his.com Fri May 6 13:57:16 2005 From: jguyer at his.com (Jon Guyer) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 10:57:16 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tcl/Tk, Alpha and Tiger In-Reply-To: <5DD45A2B-DAA9-478E-B047-ADE2A110B761@mac.com> References: <60E747BA-A872-42C7-9F15-79EB0DB636D1@mac.com> <3be51310e850411ddb0c789d027619ee@his.com> <5DD45A2B-DAA9-478E-B047-ADE2A110B761@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 6, 2005, at 10:48 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Thanks for the info. I'll probably just go for the Archive & Install > route (knowing this is certainly overkill, as the overwritten > /usr/bin/wish8.4 is only a 3-lines script). Definitely overkill. wish is not even used by AlphaX (although it's probably needed by things in DarwinPorts), and as you say, it's a tiny thing. I understand the desire to have things installed "correctly", but I don't think this particular case is cause to suffer through another install. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From cgoedde at condor.depaul.edu Fri May 6 13:45:03 2005 From: cgoedde at condor.depaul.edu (Chris Goedde) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 12:45:03 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno In-Reply-To: <4F430445-5864-4BB8-915E-3F30C04915B9@math.uoregon.edu> References: <76285FCB-0083-4CEA-8053-3612D20DE415@mac.com> <4F430445-5864-4BB8-915E-3F30C04915B9@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <93B051F8-BE56-11D9-A1BD-000D93B6E480@condor.depaul.edu> On May 6, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Richard Koch wrote: > In general I don't like to clutter up the mailing list with messages > about a mere front end. Personally, I think that this is one of the most appropriate topics for this list. Here are my $0.02 on some of the other questions. > In Preview, command[ and command] are shortcuts for Back and Forward. > It would be trivial to implement that, but unfortunately TeXShop > already uses these shortcuts for Indent and Comment. So a first > question for users: can I change the shortcuts for Indent, Comment, > Unindent, and Uncomment, and if so what should I use? Since % is the TeX comment character, maybe Cmd-5 and Cmd-% for comment and uncomment? (Note: I don't use these keyboard shortcuts.) > Since I don't use editors which work like this, I have some really > elementary questions. If I'm typing a line and it gets too long, the > cursor reaches back to a word ending and moves the text after that > word to the next line. But what happens if I edit in the middle of a > line? Do words at the end sort of dribble down to their own lines? > What happens if I copy and paste? Do lines get reformatted? Etc. Etc. > Pretty soon, what sounds like a simple change requires modifications > all over the place. Emacs, as I recall, does this by making be smart. If the user types beyond a certain column, a new line character is substituted. Again, IIRC correctly, emacs punts on auto-reflowing text that is inserted or typed in the middle of the line. It has a wrap-region command to manually fix these. Personally, I wouldn't advise you to worry about this too much; this is what that key is for :-). But, if you wanted to make smart as above and implement a wrap-selection command, that would be sufficient for me. Going much beyond that seems like it would lead to lots of headaches with math mode and intelligently parsing the TeX source for wrapping purposes. It doesn't seem to me (easy to say!) that making smart would be too hard. > This would be trivial to implement. TeXShop does use NSTextView, and > so in a sense these already work. The trouble is that Cmd-click > has been overridden for synchronization. Is there a reasonable > substitute for Cmd-click for synchronization? Cmd-double click? Chris --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Fri May 6 13:48:54 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 19:48:54 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tcl/Tk, Alpha and Tiger In-Reply-To: <3be51310e850411ddb0c789d027619ee@his.com> References: <60E747BA-A872-42C7-9F15-79EB0DB636D1@mac.com> <3be51310e850411ddb0c789d027619ee@his.com> Message-ID: <5DD45A2B-DAA9-478E-B047-ADE2A110B761@mac.com> Le 6 mai 05 ? 19:06, Jon Guyer a ?crit : > On May 6, 2005, at 7:17 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > >> - Is it correct to infer from this page that the portions of Tcl/ >> Tk included in Tiger are all that's required to run AlphaX? > > Hopefully Daniel can give answers to the majority of your > questions, but yes, this should be true. AlphaX does not need or > use Tk at all. The Tcl libraries that are needed or recommended are > indeed shipped with Tiger (TclAE, TclApplescript, TclResource, > TclX, ...). Thanks for the info. I'll probably just go for the Archive & Install route (knowing this is certainly overkill, as the overwritten /usr/ bin/wish8.4 is only a 3-lines script). Earlier this week when I last did that, I took care to note which software installers installed elements inside /Library/ or in hidden directories, and hence needed to be rerun after an Archive & Install. Actually there aren't that many of them: StuffIt, Windows Media Player, Adobe Reader, TeX and friends, DarwinPorts, QuickTime MPEG-2 component, RealMedia Export Plugin, NeoOfficeJ, etc. And now the SpotLight importers. Not that many, thus hopefully that shouldn't take too long. Thanks in any case to Daniel for his work, since the Tcl/Tk Aqua distro included in Tiger is indeed based on one he prepared and submitted to Apple. Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jguyer at his.com Fri May 6 14:11:36 2005 From: jguyer at his.com (Jon Guyer) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:11:36 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Alpha taking over some file extensions In-Reply-To: References: <7B06D8F8-C8BB-4872-B5A0-47D17757DFAC@mac.com> <92fc6f1353d775aeafa9793eae669cba@his.com> Message-ID: On May 3, 2005, at 2:46 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 3 mai 05 ? 19:44, Jon Guyer a ?crit : > >> 3) Tiger is buggy. The probability that this is /not/ true lies in >> the complex plane. > > After almost two days "polishing" my Tiger install, getting familiar > with it and solving the problems that arose because of it, I can but > agree this is truly understatement! And indeed, this appears to be a Tiger issue, not an Alpha issue: --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From chugg at usc.edu Fri May 6 14:27:11 2005 From: chugg at usc.edu (Keith M. Chugg) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 11:27:11 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno In-Reply-To: <4F430445-5864-4BB8-915E-3F30C04915B9@math.uoregon.edu> References: <76285FCB-0083-4CEA-8053-3612D20DE415@mac.com> <4F430445-5864-4BB8-915E-3F30C04915B9@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: Rich, TexShop is great - thanks. A couple of things I notice about the current vers. that, as a user, I would like to see changed... 1.) In the prefs->preview-> default mouse mode, add a choice that is "maintain as set". This means that if the last time I was at the preview window, I had it set for text, keep text; if it was set for select, keep select. I use texshop to create mathematical equations/symbols to be copied between the preview window and another app. (e.g., omnigraffle or keynote). It is convenient to keep the "select" setting when doing this repeatedly, but otherwise I would like the text select setting for synching... 2.) FIND: when I type cmd-F foo, and hit return, this used to search for foo. Now, it searches for vvvfoo if I had previously searched for vvv -- ie, the default mode is to append what you type instead of overwrite the string from the previous search. Most apps use the overwrite convention, so I am used to this. Thanks again for the great program. Keith -- --------------------------- http://csi.usc.edu --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bb at creativeeyes.at Fri May 6 15:07:47 2005 From: bb at creativeeyes.at (Bernhard Barkow) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 21:07:47 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 6. Mai 2005, at 16:24, Jason Davies wrote: >>> I noticed that I now have a deamon user for ClamAV on Tiger (I did a >>> clean install), so Apple knows about it in any case. >>> > > can someone say more about this? A lot of people have reported this > but Hi, I'm not completely sure, but I think it's just a user account for clamAV which originates from 10.4 Server (which is preparated for the use of server-sided scanners). > did'nt know what it was. Most have uninstalled the software. Any > advice > appreciated (and will be passed on to other users) > Uninstalled which software? BB -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCe8CHqJ8JxFkhAg0RArG3AJ4+bgOK7h1wBo9HTCPOzHLGk4Wh5ACgqSYZ h4MJxofbj6srlW000XHBjQg= =ySi0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From alan at alphabyte.co.nz Fri May 6 18:28:46 2005 From: alan at alphabyte.co.nz (Alan Litchfield) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 10:28:46 +1200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: [texhax] Sideways longtable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 6, 2005, at 11:32 PM, Robin Fairbairns wrote: >> My apologies for the cross-post. > > general tex issues are usually best not addressed to specialised > mailing lists; i would guess the mac list could have been avoided. Thanks Robin, I am using TeXShop, hence the specific choice. > > > http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=landscape > > explains how to do this (second bullet in list). iirc, macos x tetex > is pdflatex-focused -- if so, you need pdflscape rather than lscape. Good, thanks for that. I am using pdflatex in TeXShop. > >> Also, is the footer in longtable really limited to one line only? > > i didn't think so; and a quick scan of the documentation does nothing > to make me change my mind. the example in the doc has a multiline > lastfoot, and the syntax for that and for the running foot is the > same. > Hmm. Reason I ask is that long footer content seems to just push the right side of the table further to the right, and off the right edge of the page. In this case the issue appears on pages prior to the lastfoot. Alan --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Fri May 6 18:47:02 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 00:47:02 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno In-Reply-To: References: <76285FCB-0083-4CEA-8053-3612D20DE415@mac.com> <4F430445-5864-4BB8-915E-3F30C04915B9@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: Am 06.05.2005 um 18:43 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > Page-Up, Page-Down, Home and End are all very convenient navigation > tools. However, on a PowerBook I never figured out how to use these: > Page-Up appears on the Up arrow, Page-Down on the Down arrow, Home on > the Left arrow and End on the Right arrow. I tried all key > combinations I could think of (Cmd-Up, Shift-Up, etc.), without ever > getting them. > Have you thought of pressing the fn key? -- Greetings Pete Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we. -- Georges W. Bush --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From stephenmoye at cox.net Fri May 6 18:58:51 2005 From: stephenmoye at cox.net (Stephen Moye) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 18:58:51 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop is SSLLOOOWW on 10.4 for me Message-ID: <7A6E3F9C-A251-4BCA-86FE-52372EC1A2A6@cox.net> I have TeXShop 2.01 and am using it on my PowerBook. It seems to take forever to save a document, and to typeset it (using XeTeX). Is anyone else experiencing this? Any ideas what I can do to solve this? I have fixed permissions. Help! 8>} Stephen Moye --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fcnpereira at mac.com Fri May 6 19:43:52 2005 From: fcnpereira at mac.com (Fernando Pereira) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 19:43:52 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno In-Reply-To: <93B051F8-BE56-11D9-A1BD-000D93B6E480@condor.depaul.edu> References: <76285FCB-0083-4CEA-8053-3612D20DE415@mac.com> <4F430445-5864-4BB8-915E-3F30C04915B9@math.uoregon.edu> <93B051F8-BE56-11D9-A1BD-000D93B6E480@condor.depaul.edu> Message-ID: <5EA4DC98-70EE-4921-8512-92EA7138237A@mac.com> On May 6, 2005, at 1:45 PM, Chris Goedde wrote: >> Since I don't use editors which work like this, I have some really >> elementary questions. If I'm typing a line and it gets too long, >> the cursor reaches back to a word ending and moves the text after >> that word to the next line. But what happens if I edit in the >> middle of a line? Do words at the end sort of dribble down to >> their own lines? What happens if I copy and paste? Do lines get >> reformatted? Etc. Etc. Pretty soon, what sounds like a simple >> change requires modifications all over the place. >> > > Emacs, as I recall, does this by making be smart. If the > user types beyond a certain column, a new line character is > substituted. Again, IIRC correctly, emacs punts on auto-reflowing > text that is inserted or typed in the middle of the line. It has a > wrap-region command to manually fix these. Sort of. In Emacs, each key is in effect bound to a command (a function in Emacs Lisp or in the core C-implemented functions). The command that is bound to in text fill checks line line width when the space is being inserted. If the space is beyond the line width, the command backs up to the previous space, turns that into a newline, and then moves forward to the original insertion point, and inserts the space. > > Personally, I wouldn't advise you to worry about this too much; > this is what that key is for :-). I disagree. It is hard to remember to type when composing on the keyboard. The reason why this matters is that many of us work with colleagues who use Linux or Windows, and we share files using cvs or other means. Unfortunately, cvs does everything in terms of lines, as do document comparison programs like diff, diff3, and FileMerge. Because of that, merging changes between a hard-newline and a soft-newline version is pretty much impossible. > But, if you wanted to make smart as above and implement a > wrap-selection command, that would be sufficient for me. For me that would be perfect. > Going much beyond that seems like it would lead to lots of > headaches with math mode and intelligently parsing the TeX source > for wrapping purposes. It doesn't seem to me (easy to say!) that > making smart would be too hard. No point in trying to be too smart in this, it would just break things in annoying ways. -- F --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From stephenmoye at cox.net Fri May 6 20:05:14 2005 From: stephenmoye at cox.net (Stephen Moye) Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:05:14 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop is SSLLOOOWW on 10.4 for me In-Reply-To: <7A6E3F9C-A251-4BCA-86FE-52372EC1A2A6@cox.net> References: <7A6E3F9C-A251-4BCA-86FE-52372EC1A2A6@cox.net> Message-ID: On May 6, 2005, at 6:58 PM, Stephen Moye wrote: > I have TeXShop 2.01 and am using it on my PowerBook. It seems to > take forever to save a document, and to typeset it (using XeTeX). > Is anyone else experiencing this? Any ideas what I can do to solve > this? I have fixed permissions. > > Help! 8>} Ooops. Without knowing it I was working on a file that was on my iDisk. Yeah, no wonder it was slow... Sorry for the false alarm. Stephen Moye --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maine at searust.com Sat May 7 02:22:57 2005 From: maine at searust.com (Jeff Genung) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 01:22:57 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] landscape longtable Message-ID: I regularly use landscape longtables, and at the top of each is the following: \begin{landscape} \begin{center} \tiny \begin{longtable}{column info here} my pages are all 6x9 inches, and I can cram a huge amount of tiny text into them, including multi-line headers and footers. Jeff G. maine at searust.com --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Sat May 7 04:13:39 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 10:13:39 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: tex4ht In-Reply-To: <721DF6EC-5063-431F-9A06-C3B9A5085294@ch.inter.net> References: <721DF6EC-5063-431F-9A06-C3B9A5085294@ch.inter.net> Message-ID: Hello, There is nothing I can do unless it is a problem that has to do with the way it is installed. There is nothing anyone can do unless you include log output of a run and preferably an example run. The installation of updated packages may have given you a newer version of Ghostscript and that could influence things. Mac OS X 10.4 has an updated PDF engine which may influence things. Also, check your results when viewing them on 10.3 if possible. I have not the means to provide TeX4ht (or any other TeX part) support. For this, your best route is to the Mac OS X TeX mailing list first. There are helpul and knowledgeable people there who can and will help you. Yours, G PS. I am cc-ing this message to the Mac OS X TeX list. I advise you to subscribe and post your question there with more info. On May 6, 2005, at 21:29, Jean-Bernard Roux wrote: > I have problems with tex4ht: > > 1.- the translation of formulaes are too big pictures; unusable; > 2.- the translation of ligatures are unsable, unreadable; > > I am using the nex Mac OS X Tiger 10.4; I have installed yesterday all > the modified packages with iinstaller; I am using version tex 2004. > > Before this I had not any problem like these! > > Thank you for your answer. > > > > > > ?? ? ? \\\|/// ? ? ? ? Jean-Bernard ROUX? > ?? ? \\? - -? // ? ? ? > ? ? ? (? @ @? )? ? ? ? ? ? ? > ?---oOOo-(_)-oOOo-------------------------------------------? > ?12d, rte de Meyrin ? > ?1202 GENEVE? > ?--------------Oooo----------------------------------------------? > ? ? ? oooO? ? ( ? )? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? tel. +4122 733 36 28? > ? ? ? (? ) ? ? ) / ? > ?? ? ? \ (? ? (_/ ? mailto:rouxjeanbernard at mac.com ? > ? ? ? ? \_) ? ? ? ? http://hypo.geneve.ch/www/math/html/root.html > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sat May 7 05:26:37 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:26:37 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and Lucida doesn't In-Reply-To: References: <68013.28440@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: On May 6, 2005, at 4:24 AM, Gordon Sick wrote: > Outlining the fonts is sort of OK. I don't need to edit the result > (I want to be able to label diagrams, and want LateX to build the > labels). By outlining, I assume that they won't render on screen as > nicely, because they lose their hinting. But, I would expect it all > to print fine, so this is worth pursuing. > > >> If it is the latter, you can remove the >> fonts (and replace them by their outlines) and include the result in >> Illustrator. The following call to GhostScript should do the trick: >> >> gs -dNOPAUSE -dNOCACHE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite \ >> -sOutputFile=your-output-file.pdf \ >> your-source-file.pdf >> >> The -dNOCACHE should remove all fonts, and simply draw the outlines >> instead. There is no (easy) way to edit the resulting text, but at >> the very least you can include the result in Illustrator. >> > I tried this. I assume that the backslashes are escapes to new > lines, as when I copy such lines from the terminal, the Terminal > spreads them out on one line. Indeed, backslashes are continuation marks. In the part I snipped below, you say that it doesn't work for you. Try changing the device: gs -dNOPAUSE -dNOCACHE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=epswrite \ -sOutputFile=your-output-file.eps \ your-source-file.pdf now the command will produce an eps file, and (i've just checked, with the same version of gs you use) that the result no longer includes any fonts. Illustrator will be able to read eps, or you could use pstopdf to produce a pdf-file again. The version of gs is important, some versions between 8.1x and 8.5 had bugs that prevented this use. It is officially considered a debugging feature, but comes in very handy in these cases. I once figured out with an Elsevier editor that this is the only practical way to submit figures generated from metapost. > It is amazing that the platform that is #1 for graphics (Mac OS X) > and the premiere vector drawing program (Illustrator) and the > premiere typesetting engine (LaTeX) are all incompatible in this way. > > It is particularly frustrating that this works for CMR, but not for > the Lucida. Blame Adobe for not supporting some odd font encodings. their standards allow it, so why not (completely) support it? Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sat May 7 05:33:46 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:33:46 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> Message-ID: <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> On May 6, 2005, at 4:33 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 6 mai 05 ? 16:24, Jason Davies a ?crit : > > >> can someone say more about this? A lot of people have reported >> this but >> did'nt know what it was. Most have uninstalled the software. Any >> advice >> appreciated (and will be passed on to other users) >> > > When installing, ClamXav creates a clamav group and a clamav user, > visible under NetInfo Manager and used (according to the doc) for > retrieving updates. Is that what you mean? No, the clamav user is there on my system, even though I've never installed clamXav. > According to the FAQ, there were problems with previous versions of > ClamXav, in that these user and group were not created completely > during the install, with the consequence that the Reset Password > utility on the OS X disks could no longer be used, leaving you in > the void should you forget your password. I guess that that is fixed by default now. Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sat May 7 07:40:54 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 13:40:54 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno In-Reply-To: <4F430445-5864-4BB8-915E-3F30C04915B9@math.uoregon.edu> References: <76285FCB-0083-4CEA-8053-3612D20DE415@mac.com> <4F430445-5864-4BB8-915E-3F30C04915B9@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: <9319AA0E-2B3C-4143-9ACB-1B3CACFFD783@xs4all.nl> On May 6, 2005, at 6:10 PM, Richard Koch wrote: > In general I don't like to clutter up the mailing list with > messages about a mere front end. I think this message is _exactly_ what this list is for, rather than generic TeX question that get answered anyway. [snip] > In Preview, command[ and command] are shortcuts for Back and > Forward. It would be trivial to implement that, but unfortunately > TeXShop already uses these shortcuts for Indent and Comment. So a > first question for users: can I change the shortcuts for Indent, > Comment, Unindent, and Uncomment, and if so what should I use? I hardly ever indent or comment a pdf file ;-). I think it is not a problem to overload these command-key shortcuts and use them bot for source-display (where they perform an action on the source) and on the preview (where they go back and forth). >> I second the request, made last week-end, of being able to hard- >> wrap text in TexShop. Possibly a switch enabling "Hard Wrap As You >> Type", and a command "Hard Wrap", pretty much as for spell checking. > > There are two problems with this common request. > > The most serious is that I wouldn't use this feature. It is > dangerous for a programmer to add a feature for others but not use > it himself, because then the feature doesn't get seriously tested. > > Since I don't use editors which work like this, I have some really > elementary questions. If I'm typing a line and it gets too long, > the cursor reaches back to a word ending and moves the text after > that word to the next line. But what happens if I edit in the > middle of a line? Do words at the end sort of dribble down to their > own lines? What happens if I copy and paste? Do lines get > reformatted? Etc. Etc. Pretty soon, what sounds like a simple > change requires modifications all over the place. The main reason I can see for this request is for version control systems (CVS, subversion, ...) and working with other writers (on other platforms). To merge back changes, the most commonly used tool is diff (or some graphical shell around that (bbedit's variant, available in TextWrangler as well, or Apple's FileMerge). All of these tools work on a line-by-line basis. Due to the nature of TeX, this comes down to paragraph-by-paragraph in most sources. This can be a granularity that is fine enough for some, but in practice it is too coarse. I have made a habit of starting each sentence on a new line (and let sentences themselves wrap around). Some completion algorithm could be used to wrap after a '. ' is typed, but that may not suit everyone (and foul up some abbreviations in the process, just look at the hoops TeX itself has to jump through to reliably determine whether a period ends a sentence (and a double space has to be inserted). Re-wrapping the paragraph upon a re-write totally removes the benefit of hard-wrapping, at least as far as I can see. Maybe you should add a command to re-wrap the current paragraph, if users feel inclined to trow out some of the benefits. > The second problem is that NSTextEdit wasn't really designed for > hard wrapping. There isn't any switch to just "turn it on." So I'd > have to force that class to do things it wasn't designed to do, > leading to possible problems along the lines mentioned in the "fit > to width" discussion. This is a harder problem to solve. > I'm not opposed to such a mode. We really need to find a volunteer > who would actually use this mode to write the code. At present, > TeXShop's editing code isn't factored out very well, so adding such > a "hard wrap class" might be tricky, but I'd volunteer to do the > factoring if someone else would write the new class. You _do_ use some form of version control for TeXShop itself, don't you? At the very least it will give you some experience with the issues involved. (Related: I think it would be a good idea to develop TeXShop in a public location - SourceForge, Sarovar.org - as it would involve more developers more directly). > This would be trivial to implement. TeXShop does use NSTextView, > and so in a sense these already work. The trouble is that Cmd-click > has been overridden for synchronization. Is there a reasonable > substitute for Cmd-click for synchronization? Or are folks so used > to this that they don't want a change? Cmd-doubleclick for syncing seems fine. Or just press 'Esc' to sync with the text-cursor. > PS. In a later message, Bruno complained that hyperlinks don't work > in 2.01. They do work, but you have to select the "A" tool to make > them work. Probably I should add a command shortcut so that when > another tool is selected you can temporarily return to the "A" > tool. One trouble is that most command modifications are used with > the magnification tools already, to select various magnification > options. Is there a specific reason that hyperlinks do not work in a mode that is not the 'A' tool? What about switching temporarily if the cursor is over a hyperlink? Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Sat May 7 08:40:19 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 05:40:19 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno In-Reply-To: <9319AA0E-2B3C-4143-9ACB-1B3CACFFD783@xs4all.nl> References: <76285FCB-0083-4CEA-8053-3612D20DE415@mac.com> <4F430445-5864-4BB8-915E-3F30C04915B9@math.uoregon.edu> <9319AA0E-2B3C-4143-9ACB-1B3CACFFD783@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <067EAD82-D445-43AE-898C-2C95BE7BB38B@mac.com> On May 7, 2005, at 04:40, Maarten Sneep wrote: > On May 6, 2005, at 6:10 PM, Richard Koch wrote: > > >> In general I don't like to clutter up the mailing list with >> messages about a mere front end. >> > > I think this message is _exactly_ what this list is for, rather > than generic TeX question that get answered anyway. My sentiments exactly; it's nice to see Mac OS X-specific discussion here! > [snip] > [snip more] >> The second problem is that NSTextEdit wasn't really designed for >> hard wrapping. There isn't any switch to just "turn it on." So I'd >> have to force that class to do things it wasn't designed to do, >> leading to possible problems along the lines mentioned in the "fit >> to width" discussion. >> > > This is a harder problem to solve. You could take a look at how iTeXMac implements it; there are some oddities in the wrapping, but I use it all the time anyway; see iTMTextView's wrapText... methods (I think). It does look complicated, to say the least. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lp15 at cam.ac.uk Sat May 7 09:14:05 2005 From: lp15 at cam.ac.uk (Lawrence Paulson) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 14:14:05 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Reply to Bruno (hard wrapping) In-Reply-To: <54413.13111@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <54413.13111@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: > In general I don't like to clutter up the mailing list with messages > about a mere front end. Mere front end?? Did you mean miracle? The new sync system is particularly amazing. >> I second the request, made last week-end, of being able to hard- >> wrap text in TexShop. Possibly a switch enabling "Hard Wrap As You >> Type", and a command "Hard Wrap", pretty much as for spell checking. > > There are two problems with this common request... I bought an app called SmartWrap a while ago that builds this functionality into all text windows. It seems silly to pay $20 to augment a free program, but it's one solution. Wrapping and re-wrapping is a nuisance, but it's helpful if you share the editing with Linux users, who usually hate super-long lines. One of TeXShop's best features is its simplicity. Please bear that in mind when considering feature requests. People who want a feature-loaded tool can always use iTexMac. Larry Paulson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From musaf at runbox.com Sat May 7 13:09:41 2005 From: musaf at runbox.com (Musa Furber) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 20:09:41 +0300 Subject: [OS X TeX] Using an old GW TeX with Tiger Message-ID: I haven't been able to update the larger i-Installer packages since April of 2004. If I update to Tiger, will I be able to use my existing i-Installer packages, or will I have to downloaded newer ones to work with Tiger? I don't have high-speed Internet access, so downloading a new set of i-Installer packages is not a viable option. Tiger sounds great, but I will stick with 10.3 for the time being if Panther means breaking TeX. Regards, Musa --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sat May 7 13:21:51 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 19:21:51 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Using an old GW TeX with Tiger In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13C0BDE3-67F3-4E3B-A110-7849C7C7E498@xs4all.nl> On May 7, 2005, at 7:09 PM, Musa Furber wrote: > I haven't been able to update the larger i-Installer packages since > April of 2004. > > If I update to Tiger, will I be able to use my existing i-Installer > packages, or will I have to downloaded newer ones to work with Tiger? > > I don't have high-speed Internet access, so downloading a new set > of i-Installer packages is not a viable option. > > Tiger sounds great, but I will stick with 10.3 for the time being > if Panther means breaking TeX. As far as I know, there hasn't been an update to these packages since the release of Tiger, and they work just fine. However, your packages are now over a year old, and I'm not sure what other bugs have been fixed, and whether that particular version will work (no guarantees). Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From benoit at circuscowboy.com Sat May 7 13:36:32 2005 From: benoit at circuscowboy.com (Benoit Favreault) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 13:36:32 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Screenplay on LaTeX Message-ID: <045640065cd6f57f402747fb04266c8e@circuscowboy.com> Hello list, I remember vaguely having red on this forum about a package design to write screen (or theater) play. Does anybody can enlight me ? Thanks in advance - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Benoit Favreault Charg? du cours DES 7016 DESS en design d'?v?nements ?cole de design Universit? du Qu?bec ? Montr?al --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From piet at cs.uu.nl Sat May 7 15:55:30 2005 From: piet at cs.uu.nl (Piet van Oostrum) Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 21:55:30 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Sideways longtable In-Reply-To: <82eaa86ddeee8750ca1a8995fa857d80@alphabyte.co.nz> (Alan Litchfield's message of "Fri, 6 May 2005 23:12:09 +1200") References: <82eaa86ddeee8750ca1a8995fa857d80@alphabyte.co.nz> Message-ID: >>>>> Alan Litchfield (AL) wrote: >AL> Hi all, >AL> My apologies for the cross-post. >AL> I need to rotate a longtable by 90?. At the moment it covers about five >AL> pages. Any clues? http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=landscape -- Piet van Oostrum URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP] Private email: piet at vanoostrum.org --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sat May 7 16:07:05 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 22:07:05 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: References: <941BF7F9-A77C-4E6C-819C-27C553012D98@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: On May 3, 2005, at 4:06 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > No, the hidden directories (and others) aren't indexed by default, > unfortunately. You may have to re-index /usr/local/teTeX after a > new install also; I'm not sure if the path filtering still applies > after you force indexing with mdimport -f. Apparently, you can add directories to be indexed. This is taken from the Ars-technical openforum, a post by John Siracusa (his review has been mentioned on this list before). A the very least it will allow you to check whether certain paths are explicitly excluded. John writes: > Spotlight is hard-coded to ignore certain dirs. You need to > override those settings. Edit this file: > > % sudo emacs /.Spotlight-V100/_rules.plist > > > and make it look something like this: > > > www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> > > > EXCLUDE > > INCLUDE > > /private > /usr > > NOTE > Specify paths to include or exclude, preceeding > rules which target user-homes with ~/ > > > > > ...and so on, adding each directory you want to include. Then tell > Spotlight to reindex your drive: > > % sudo mdutil -E / > > > That should do it. (Note: I got this from a mailing list and > haven't actually tried it myself, but it looks sensible and safe to > me.) Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From attele at ameritech.net Sat May 7 20:17:50 2005 From: attele at ameritech.net (Rohan Attele) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 19:17:50 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Message-ID: <757242FC-4FD1-47CF-9BE6-835C894C1880@ameritech.net> Hi! Is Cocoa aspell spell check working in TexShop 2? I have installed latest spell checker, enabled UK dictionary(ize), texshop says cannot contact spell checker. Rohan Attele --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From sick at ucalgary.ca Sat May 7 20:34:07 2005 From: sick at ucalgary.ca (Gordon Sick) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 18:34:07 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and Lucida doesn't In-Reply-To: <40813.97793@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <40813.97793@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: Martin, Thanks for your help. Indeed, forcing output of eps does force the fonts to become outlined and I can work with this. As I investigate this, I am perplexed and intrigued by the following: 1. This problem occurs with the Y&Y Lucida fonts converted to be used in TeTeX (using the instructions on this list), but it does not occur with the CMR fonts that AMS distributes. 2. I think that those CMR fonts were originally created by Blue Sky Research and they started as the postscript distribution that went with Textures-- I used that to learn Latex. 3. Blue Sky also distributes Lucida and I wonder if they distribute them in a way that works like CMR (and does't have the problem). Moreover, I noticed on BSR's website a note that they had talked with Apple about the encoding problem and that the encoding problem might be fixed with Tiger. 4. I've run this example with both Tiger and TexShop 2.0 and Panther and TexShop 1.36 and I get the same results in both cases. That is, if I typeset Latex in CMR, the resulting pdf can be opened by Illustrator CS and it displays the fonts as CMR -- that means they are hinted for display and that some editing of the text is possible. But, if I typeset Latex in Lucida, the resulting pdf cannot be opened by Illustrator CS unless I either outline the font (as per Maarten's instructions), or accept some font substitution for Lucida. This all begs the question of what is the difference between the encoding of Lucida and CMR, and whether the Lucida encoding can be changed to work like CMR? > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- > CMR Works and Lucida doesn't > From: "Maarten Sneep" > Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:26:37 +0200 > > On May 6, 2005, at 4:24 AM, Gordon Sick wrote: [snip} > Indeed, backslashes are continuation marks. In the part I snipped > below, you say that it doesn't work for you. Try changing the device: > > gs -dNOPAUSE -dNOCACHE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=epswrite \ > -sOutputFile=your-output-file.eps \ > your-source-file.pdf > > now the command will produce an eps file, and (i've just checked, > with the same version of gs you use) that the result no longer > includes any fonts. Illustrator will be able to read eps, or you > could use pstopdf to produce a pdf-file again. The version of gs is > important, some versions between 8.1x and 8.5 had bugs that prevented > this use. It is officially considered a debugging feature, but comes > in very handy in these cases. I once figured out with an Elsevier > editor that this is the only practical way to submit figures > generated from metapost. > > >> It is amazing that the platform that is #1 for graphics (Mac OS X) >> and the premiere vector drawing program (Illustrator) and the >> premiere typesetting engine (LaTeX) are all incompatible in this way. >> >> It is particularly frustrating that this works for CMR, but not for >> the Lucida. >> > > Blame Adobe for not supporting some odd font encodings. their > standards allow it, so why not (completely) support it? > > Maarten > --cheers, Gordon Sick --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bellwasright at mchsi.com Sat May 7 22:26:45 2005 From: bellwasright at mchsi.com (bellwasright at mchsi.com) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 02:26:45 +0000 Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht Message-ID: <050820050226.7863.427D78E3000D0BEC00001EB721979267619B0809079D9C0E9904040A0D@mchsi.com> I am lost. I thought we ARE on the Mac OSX TeX list. And someone is telling a guy to post on the Mac OSX TeX list... ???? >>> Subject: Re: tex4ht From: "Gerben Wierda" Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 10:13:39 +0200 Hello, There is nothing I can do unless it is a problem that has to do with the way it is installed. There is nothing anyone can do unless you include log output of a run and preferably an example run. The installation of updated packages may have given you a newer version of Ghostscript and that could influence things. Mac OS X 10.4 has an updated PDF engine which may influence things. Also, check your results when viewing them on 10.3 if possible. I have not the means to provide TeX4ht (or any other TeX part) support. For this, your best route is to the Mac OS X TeX mailing list first. There are helpul and knowledgeable people there who can and will help you. Yours, G > MacOSX-TeX Digest #1366 - Saturday, May 7, 2005 > > Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop is SSLLOOOWW on 10.4 for me > by "Stephen Moye" > landscape longtable > by "Jeff Genung" > Re: tex4ht > by "Gerben Wierda" > Re: [OS X TeX] Re: OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and L > by "Maarten Sneep" > Re: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild > by "Maarten Sneep" > Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno > by "Maarten Sneep" > Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno > by "Adam R. Maxwell" > Re: Reply to Bruno (hard wrapping) > by "Lawrence Paulson" > Using an old GW TeX with Tiger > by "Musa Furber" > Re: [OS X TeX] Using an old GW TeX with Tiger > by "Maarten Sneep" > Screenplay on LaTeX > by "Benoit Favreault" > Re: [OS X TeX] Sideways longtable > by "Piet van Oostrum" > Re: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers > by "Maarten Sneep" > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop is SSLLOOOWW on 10.4 for me > From: "Stephen Moye" > Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 20:05:14 -0400 > > > On May 6, 2005, at 6:58 PM, Stephen Moye wrote: > > > I have TeXShop 2.01 and am using it on my PowerBook. It seems to > > take forever to save a document, and to typeset it (using XeTeX). > > Is anyone else experiencing this? Any ideas what I can do to solve > > this? I have fixed permissions. > > > > Help! 8>} > > Ooops. Without knowing it I was working on a file that was on my > iDisk. Yeah, no wonder it was slow... > > Sorry for the false alarm. > > Stephen Moye > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: landscape longtable > From: "Jeff Genung" > Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 01:22:57 -0500 > > I regularly use landscape longtables, and at the top of each is the > following: > > \begin{landscape} > \begin{center} > \tiny > \begin{longtable}{column info here} > > my pages are all 6x9 inches, and I can cram a huge amount of tiny text into > them, including multi-line headers and footers. > > Jeff G. > maine at searust.com > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: tex4ht > From: "Gerben Wierda" > Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 10:13:39 +0200 > > Hello, > > There is nothing I can do unless it is a problem that has to do with > the way it is installed. There is nothing anyone can do unless you > include log output of a run and preferably an example run. > > The installation of updated packages may have given you a newer version > of Ghostscript and that could influence things. Mac OS X 10.4 has an > updated PDF engine which may influence things. Also, check your results > when viewing them on 10.3 if possible. > > I have not the means to provide TeX4ht (or any other TeX part) support. > For this, your best route is to the Mac OS X TeX mailing list first. > There are helpul and knowledgeable people there who can and will help > you. > > Yours, > > G > > PS. I am cc-ing this message to the Mac OS X TeX list. I advise you to > subscribe and post your question there with more info. > > On May 6, 2005, at 21:29, Jean-Bernard Roux wrote: > > > I have problems with tex4ht: > > > > 1.- the translation of formulaes are too big pictures; unusable; > > 2.- the translation of ligatures are unsable, unreadable; > > > > I am using the nex Mac OS X Tiger 10.4; I have installed yesterday all > > the modified packages with iinstaller; I am using version tex 2004. > > > > Before this I had not any problem like these! > > > > Thank you for your answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > ?? ? ? \\\|/// ? ? ? ? Jean-Bernard ROUX? > > ?? ? \\? - -? // ? ? ? > > ? ? ? (? @ @? )? ? ? ? ? ? ? > > ?---oOOo-(_)-oOOo-------------------------------------------? > > ?12d, rte de Meyrin ? > > ?1202 GENEVE? > > ?--------------Oooo----------------------------------------------? > > ? ? ? oooO? ? ( ? )? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? tel. +4122 733 36 28? > > ? ? ? (? ) ? ? ) / ? > > ?? ? ? \ (? ? (_/ ? mailto:rouxjeanbernard at mac.com ? > > ? ? ? ? \_) ? ? ? ? http://hypo.geneve.ch/www/math/html/root.html > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and > Lucida doesn't > From: "Maarten Sneep" > Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:26:37 +0200 > > On May 6, 2005, at 4:24 AM, Gordon Sick wrote: > > > Outlining the fonts is sort of OK. I don't need to edit the result > > (I want to be able to label diagrams, and want LateX to build the > > labels). By outlining, I assume that they won't render on screen as > > nicely, because they lose their hinting. But, I would expect it all > > to print fine, so this is worth pursuing. > > > > > >> If it is the latter, you can remove the > >> fonts (and replace them by their outlines) and include the result in > >> Illustrator. The following call to GhostScript should do the trick: > >> > >> gs -dNOPAUSE -dNOCACHE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite \ > >> -sOutputFile=your-output-file.pdf \ > >> your-source-file.pdf > >> > >> The -dNOCACHE should remove all fonts, and simply draw the outlines > >> instead. There is no (easy) way to edit the resulting text, but at > >> the very least you can include the result in Illustrator. > >> > > I tried this. I assume that the backslashes are escapes to new > > lines, as when I copy such lines from the terminal, the Terminal > > spreads them out on one line. > > Indeed, backslashes are continuation marks. In the part I snipped > below, you say that it doesn't work for you. Try changing the device: > > gs -dNOPAUSE -dNOCACHE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=epswrite \ > -sOutputFile=your-output-file.eps \ > your-source-file.pdf > > now the command will produce an eps file, and (i've just checked, > with the same version of gs you use) that the result no longer > includes any fonts. Illustrator will be able to read eps, or you > could use pstopdf to produce a pdf-file again. The version of gs is > important, some versions between 8.1x and 8.5 had bugs that prevented > this use. It is officially considered a debugging feature, but comes > in very handy in these cases. I once figured out with an Elsevier > editor that this is the only practical way to submit figures > generated from metapost. > > > It is amazing that the platform that is #1 for graphics (Mac OS X) > > and the premiere vector drawing program (Illustrator) and the > > premiere typesetting engine (LaTeX) are all incompatible in this way. > > > > It is particularly frustrating that this works for CMR, but not for > > the Lucida. > > Blame Adobe for not supporting some odd font encodings. their > standards allow it, so why not (completely) support it? > > Maarten > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild > From: "Maarten Sneep" > Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 11:33:46 +0200 > > On May 6, 2005, at 4:33 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > > > Le 6 mai 05 ? 16:24, Jason Davies a ?crit : > > > > > >> can someone say more about this? A lot of people have reported > >> this but > >> did'nt know what it was. Most have uninstalled the software. Any > >> advice > >> appreciated (and will be passed on to other users) > >> > > > > When installing, ClamXav creates a clamav group and a clamav user, > > visible under NetInfo Manager and used (according to the doc) for > > retrieving updates. Is that what you mean? > > No, the clamav user is there on my system, even though I've never > installed clamXav. > > > According to the FAQ, there were problems with previous versions of > > ClamXav, in that these user and group were not created completely > > during the install, with the consequence that the Reset Password > > utility on the OS X disks could no longer be used, leaving you in > > the void should you forget your password. > > I guess that that is fixed by default now. > > Maarten > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno > From: "Maarten Sneep" > Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 13:40:54 +0200 > > On May 6, 2005, at 6:10 PM, Richard Koch wrote: > > > In general I don't like to clutter up the mailing list with > > messages about a mere front end. > > I think this message is _exactly_ what this list is for, rather than > generic TeX question that get answered anyway. > > [snip] > > > In Preview, command[ and command] are shortcuts for Back and > > Forward. It would be trivial to implement that, but unfortunately > > TeXShop already uses these shortcuts for Indent and Comment. So a > > first question for users: can I change the shortcuts for Indent, > > Comment, Unindent, and Uncomment, and if so what should I use? > > I hardly ever indent or comment a pdf file ;-). I think it is not a > problem to overload these command-key shortcuts and use them bot for > source-display (where they perform an action on the source) and on > the preview (where they go back and forth). > > >> I second the request, made last week-end, of being able to hard- > >> wrap text in TexShop. Possibly a switch enabling "Hard Wrap As You > >> Type", and a command "Hard Wrap", pretty much as for spell checking. > > > > There are two problems with this common request. > > > > The most serious is that I wouldn't use this feature. It is > > dangerous for a programmer to add a feature for others but not use > > it himself, because then the feature doesn't get seriously tested. > > > > Since I don't use editors which work like this, I have some really > > elementary questions. If I'm typing a line and it gets too long, > > the cursor reaches back to a word ending and moves the text after > > that word to the next line. But what happens if I edit in the > > middle of a line? Do words at the end sort of dribble down to their > > own lines? What happens if I copy and paste? Do lines get > > reformatted? Etc. Etc. Pretty soon, what sounds like a simple > > change requires modifications all over the place. > > The main reason I can see for this request is for version control > systems (CVS, subversion, ...) and working with other writers (on > other platforms). To merge back changes, the most commonly used tool > is diff (or some graphical shell around that (bbedit's variant, > available in TextWrangler as well, or Apple's FileMerge). All of > these tools work on a line-by-line basis. Due to the nature of TeX, > this comes down to paragraph-by-paragraph in most sources. This can > be a granularity that is fine enough for some, but in practice it is > too coarse. I have made a habit of starting each sentence on a new > line (and let sentences themselves wrap around). Some completion > algorithm could be used to wrap after a '. ' is typed, but that may > not suit everyone (and foul up some abbreviations in the process, > just look at the hoops TeX itself has to jump through to reliably > determine whether a period ends a sentence (and a double space has to > be inserted). > > Re-wrapping the paragraph upon a re-write totally removes the benefit > of hard-wrapping, at least as far as I can see. Maybe you should add > a command to re-wrap the current paragraph, if users feel inclined to > trow out some of the benefits. > > > The second problem is that NSTextEdit wasn't really designed for > > hard wrapping. There isn't any switch to just "turn it on." So I'd > > have to force that class to do things it wasn't designed to do, > > leading to possible problems along the lines mentioned in the "fit > > to width" discussion. > > This is a harder problem to solve. > > > I'm not opposed to such a mode. We really need to find a volunteer > > who would actually use this mode to write the code. At present, > > TeXShop's editing code isn't factored out very well, so adding such > > a "hard wrap class" might be tricky, but I'd volunteer to do the > > factoring if someone else would write the new class. > > You _do_ use some form of version control for TeXShop itself, don't > you? At the very least it will give you some experience with the > issues involved. (Related: I think it would be a good idea to develop > TeXShop in a public location - SourceForge, Sarovar.org - as it would > involve more developers more directly). > > > This would be trivial to implement. TeXShop does use NSTextView, > > and so in a sense these already work. The trouble is that Cmd-click > > has been overridden for synchronization. Is there a reasonable > > substitute for Cmd-click for synchronization? Or are folks so used > > to this that they don't want a change? > > Cmd-doubleclick for syncing seems fine. Or just press 'Esc' to sync > with the text-cursor. > > > PS. In a later message, Bruno complained that hyperlinks don't work > > in 2.01. They do work, but you have to select the "A" tool to make > > them work. Probably I should add a command shortcut so that when > > another tool is selected you can temporarily return to the "A" > > tool. One trouble is that most command modifications are used with > > the magnification tools already, to select various magnification > > options. > > Is there a specific reason that hyperlinks do not work in a mode that > is not the 'A' tool? What about switching temporarily if the cursor > is over a hyperlink? > > Maarten > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] TeXShop on Tiger: Reply to Bruno > From: "Adam R. Maxwell" > Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 05:40:19 -0700 > > > On May 7, 2005, at 04:40, Maarten Sneep wrote: > > > On May 6, 2005, at 6:10 PM, Richard Koch wrote: > > > > > >> In general I don't like to clutter up the mailing list with > >> messages about a mere front end. > >> > > > > I think this message is _exactly_ what this list is for, rather > > than generic TeX question that get answered anyway. > > My sentiments exactly; it's nice to see Mac OS X-specific discussion > here! > > > [snip] > > > [snip more] > > >> The second problem is that NSTextEdit wasn't really designed for > >> hard wrapping. There isn't any switch to just "turn it on." So I'd > >> have to force that class to do things it wasn't designed to do, > >> leading to possible problems along the lines mentioned in the "fit > >> to width" discussion. > >> > > > > This is a harder problem to solve. > > You could take a look at how iTeXMac implements it; there are some > oddities in the wrapping, but I use it all the time anyway; see > iTMTextView's wrapText... methods (I think). It does look > complicated, to say the least. > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Reply to Bruno (hard wrapping) > From: "Lawrence Paulson" > Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 14:14:05 +0100 > > > In general I don't like to clutter up the mailing list with messages > > about a mere front end. > > Mere front end?? Did you mean miracle? The new sync system is > particularly amazing. > > >> I second the request, made last week-end, of being able to hard- > >> wrap text in TexShop. Possibly a switch enabling "Hard Wrap As You > >> Type", and a command "Hard Wrap", pretty much as for spell checking. > > > > There are two problems with this common request... > > I bought an app called SmartWrap a while ago that builds this > functionality into all text windows. It seems silly to pay $20 to > augment a free program, but it's one solution. Wrapping and re-wrapping > is a nuisance, but it's helpful if you share the editing with Linux > users, who usually hate super-long lines. > > One of TeXShop's best features is its simplicity. Please bear that in > mind when considering feature requests. People who want a > feature-loaded tool can always use iTexMac. > > Larry Paulson > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Using an old GW TeX with Tiger > From: "Musa Furber" > Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 20:09:41 +0300 > > I haven't been able to update the larger i-Installer packages since > April of 2004. > > If I update to Tiger, will I be able to use my existing i-Installer > packages, or will I have to downloaded newer ones to work with Tiger? > > I don't have high-speed Internet access, so downloading a new set of > i-Installer packages is not a viable option. > > Tiger sounds great, but I will stick with 10.3 for the time being if > Panther means breaking TeX. > > Regards, > Musa > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Using an old GW TeX with Tiger > From: "Maarten Sneep" > Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 19:21:51 +0200 > > On May 7, 2005, at 7:09 PM, Musa Furber wrote: > > > I haven't been able to update the larger i-Installer packages since > > April of 2004. > > > > If I update to Tiger, will I be able to use my existing i-Installer > > packages, or will I have to downloaded newer ones to work with Tiger? > > > > I don't have high-speed Internet access, so downloading a new set > > of i-Installer packages is not a viable option. > > > > Tiger sounds great, but I will stick with 10.3 for the time being > > if Panther means breaking TeX. > > As far as I know, there hasn't been an update to these packages since > the release of Tiger, and they work just fine. However, your packages > are now over a year old, and I'm not sure what other bugs have been > fixed, and whether that particular version will work (no guarantees). > > Maarten > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Screenplay on LaTeX > From: "Benoit Favreault" > Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 13:36:32 -0400 > > Hello list, > > I remember vaguely having red on this forum about a package design to > write screen (or theater) play. Does anybody can enlight me ? > > Thanks in advance > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Benoit Favreault > Charg? du cours DES 7016 > DESS en design d'?v?nements > ?cole de design > Universit? du Qu?bec ? Montr?al > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Sideways longtable > From: "Piet van Oostrum" > Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 21:55:30 +0200 > > >>>>> Alan Litchfield (AL) wrote: > > >AL> Hi all, > >AL> My apologies for the cross-post. > > >AL> I need to rotate a longtable by 90?. At the moment it covers about five > >AL> pages. Any clues? > > http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=landscape > -- > Piet van Oostrum > URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP] > Private email: piet at vanoostrum.org > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers > From: "Maarten Sneep" > Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 22:07:05 +0200 > > On May 3, 2005, at 4:06 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > > No, the hidden directories (and others) aren't indexed by default, > > unfortunately. You may have to re-index /usr/local/teTeX after a > > new install also; I'm not sure if the path filtering still applies > > after you force indexing with mdimport -f. > > Apparently, you can add directories to be indexed. This is taken from > the Ars-technical openforum, a post by John Siracusa (his review has > been mentioned on this list before). A the very least it will allow > you to check whether certain paths are explicitly excluded. > > John writes: > > > Spotlight is hard-coded to ignore certain dirs. You need to > > override those settings. Edit this file: > > > > % sudo emacs /.Spotlight-V100/_rules.plist > > > > > > and make it look something like this: > > > > > > > www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd"> > > > > > > EXCLUDE > > > > INCLUDE > > > > /private > > /usr > > > > NOTE > > Specify paths to include or exclude, preceeding > > rules which target user-homes with ~/ > > > > > > > > > > ...and so on, adding each directory you want to include. Then tell > > Spotlight to reindex your drive: > > > > % sudo mdutil -E / > > > > > > That should do it. (Note: I got this from a mailing list and > > haven't actually tried it myself, but it looks sensible and safe to > > me.) > > Maarten > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > End of MacOSX-TeX Digest > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Sat May 7 23:19:58 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Sat, 7 May 2005 23:19:58 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht In-Reply-To: <050820050226.7863.427D78E3000D0BEC00001EB721979267619B0809079D9C0E9904040A0D@mchsi.com> References: <050820050226.7863.427D78E3000D0BEC00001EB721979267619B0809079D9C0E9904040A0D@mchsi.com> Message-ID: <8c6258a8cc711d67254d70c07e9df3de@msrce.howard.edu> On May 7, 2005, at 10:26 PM, bellwasright at mchsi.com wrote: > > I am lost. I thought we ARE on the Mac OSX TeX list. And > someone is telling a guy to post on the Mac OSX TeX list... > > ???? Someone?!!?!?!?! The Gerben Wierda was telling that person to email the list. Most likely it was a personal product support request that was cc'ed to the list. Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Sun May 8 03:02:40 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 09:02:40 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht In-Reply-To: <8c6258a8cc711d67254d70c07e9df3de@msrce.howard.edu> References: <050820050226.7863.427D78E3000D0BEC00001EB721979267619B0809079D9C0E9904040A0D@mchsi.com> <8c6258a8cc711d67254d70c07e9df3de@msrce.howard.edu> Message-ID: On May 8, 2005, at 05:19, Aaron Jackson wrote: > On May 7, 2005, at 10:26 PM, bellwasright at mchsi.com wrote: > >> >> I am lost. I thought we ARE on the Mac OSX TeX list. And >> someone is telling a guy to post on the Mac OSX TeX list... >> >> ???? > > Most likely it was a personal product support request that was cc'ed > to the list. Yes. It is better to add something to a message like that indicating you are doing a confusing thing like that. G --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Sun May 8 03:07:41 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 09:07:41 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] tex4ht In-Reply-To: <8c6258a8cc711d67254d70c07e9df3de@msrce.howard.edu> References: <050820050226.7863.427D78E3000D0BEC00001EB721979267619B0809079D9C0E9904040A0D@mchsi.com> <8c6258a8cc711d67254d70c07e9df3de@msrce.howard.edu> Message-ID: <54372cae9eeb6506f97104f679ddfe73@rna.nl> On May 8, 2005, at 05:19, Aaron Jackson wrote: > On May 7, 2005, at 10:26 PM, bellwasright at mchsi.com wrote: > >> >> I am lost. I thought we ARE on the Mac OSX TeX list. And >> someone is telling a guy to post on the Mac OSX TeX list... >> >> ???? > > Most likely it was a personal product support request that was cc'ed > to the list. Talking about personal support requests: anybody available next thursday to help carry some heavy things (like a piano) around in our living room in The Hague, The Netherlands? ;-) G (Sorry, couldn't resist) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sun May 8 06:01:19 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 12:01:19 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and Lucida doesn't In-Reply-To: References: <40813.97793@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: On May 8, 2005, at 2:34 AM, Gordon Sick wrote: > Thanks for your help. Indeed, forcing output of eps does force the > fonts to become outlined and I can work with this. > > As I investigate this, I am perplexed and intrigued by the following: > 1. This problem occurs with the Y&Y Lucida fonts converted to be > used in TeTeX (using the instructions on this list), but it does > not occur with the CMR fonts that AMS distributes. > > 2. I think that those CMR fonts were originally created by Blue > Sky Research and they started as the postscript distribution that > went with Textures-- I used that to learn Latex. If you use i-Installer to install your TeX, then you use the fonts that come with it. Those were indeed created by Blue Sky, but to unix specifications (although not the Y&Y specific TeX-n-ANSI encoding). Myabe that is the key difference. > 3. Blue Sky also distributes Lucida and I wonder if they > distribute them in a way that works like CMR (and does't have the > problem). Moreover, I noticed on BSR's website a note that they had > talked with Apple about the encoding problem and that the encoding > problem might be fixed with Tiger. As far as I know, the two sets are _exactly_ the same. CMR is available in more encodings (with the aid of virtual fonts), and one of them may do the trick. > 4. I've run this example with both Tiger and TexShop 2.0 and > Panther and TexShop 1.36 and I get the same results in both cases. > That is, if I typeset Latex in CMR, the resulting pdf can be opened > by Illustrator CS and it displays the fonts as CMR -- that means > they are hinted for display and that some editing of the text is > possible. But, if I typeset Latex in Lucida, the resulting pdf > cannot be opened by Illustrator CS unless I either outline the font > (as per Maarten's instructions), or accept some font substitution > for Lucida. > > This all begs the question of what is the difference between > the encoding of Lucida and CMR, and whether the Lucida encoding can > be changed to work like CMR? I'm not sure I want to figure that out (especially since I don't have illustrator, Create with Linkback combined with a tool that supports it (TeXType at the moment) is just too cool). The replacement trick works regardless of the exact font, have you tried Utopia+Fourier? Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sun May 8 07:20:47 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 13:20:47 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and Lucida doesn't In-Reply-To: References: <40813.97793@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <009b9fab23ad865f6ddbfcb642d3a1f5@Web.DE> Gordon, do you have the Y&Y fonts bought and installed correctly? In one of your previous eMails you wrote that in AI you see them substituted -- which can mean that pdftex does not find them. What is your log file looking like? Do have (the X11 application) xpdf installed? With this programme useful (command line) utilities come too: pdffonts and pdfinfo. pdffonts can reveal easily which fonts are actually included in the PDF file. And there is a last source of errors: pdftex and dvips and dvipdfm(x) know two ways to create their PS or PDF output -- "downloading" the fonts or not. "Downloading" means that they are included, usually only partially i.e. only those glyphs used in the document, in the output file together with their encoding files. In the other case, for example for the case of the usual set of 35 PostScript fonts, only the encodings are "downloaded" and the viewer application has to fetch the fonts from its own or the system's resources. What is the output of 'updmap --listmaps'? I never used AI, but it's really had to have an idea why it should make a difference between Computer Modern and other PostScript fonts. Or are you using the CMR bitmap fonts? updmap and the pdftex run's log file should reveal these details ... -- Greetings Pete ????? ?snq? ?,u?? no? ??? ?u?????u? s?? poo? ????? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 8 07:25:48 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 13:25:48 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and Lucida doesn't In-Reply-To: References: <40813.97793@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: Le 8 mai 05 ? 02:34, Gordon Sick a ?crit : > 3. Blue Sky also distributes Lucida and I wonder if they > distribute them in a way that works like CMR (and does't have the > problem). Moreover, I noticed on BSR's website a note that they had > talked with Apple about the encoding problem and that the encoding > problem might be fixed with Tiger. The Lucida fonts on the BSR disks were distributed in several different encodings, but that affected screen fonts and metrics suitcases only, not the PS fonts themselves which are the only component reused by gwTeX IIRC (the metrics and accompanying files being already included in teTeX and hence in gwTeX). Specifically, here are the several variants on my BSR Lucida font floppies (from 1995 for the basic set, and 1996 for the expert set): Math fonts ========== There are two alternate screen font suitcases "LucidaNewMath TeX Screen" and "LucidaNewMath Ord Screen". The first must be used if you're only using the fonts with TeX, and the second if you're using them with other applications. The difference lies in the ways the character codes 0-31 are handled, and one character with a long descender is handled. From one of the ReadMe files: > Macintosh applications - other than implementations of TeX - cannot > deal with character codes in the range 0 - 31 (for one thing, these > cannot be generated from the keyboard). The screen fonts for > non-TeX use do not include these character codes. Note that > nothing is lost, since the same character shapes ARE accessible > higher up: all characters in the range 0 - 31 are repeated > somewhere in the range 161 - 170 or 173 - 195. > > (Also, some Macintosh applications - such as PopChar - cannot deal > with > characters that have negative widths. For this reason the screen > fonts for non-TeX use to not include character codes 252 - 255). and later: > One of the math fonts, LucidaNewMath-Symbol, has a rather long > descender in the TeX version of the screen font, which may affect > line spacing in some applications. A more reasonable descender is > specified in the `ordinary' versions of the screen fonts > (`LucidaNewMath Ord Screen'). > > This makes it more convenient to use LucidaNewMath-Symbol with > applications other than TeX. The following describes this in more > detail: > > Technical Details: > ----------------- > > Two of the math fonts, LucidaNewMath-Arrows and LucidaNewMath-Italic > have ascenders and descenders typical of text fonts, and so > characters from these fonts can be freely mixed with ordinary text. > At the other end of the spectrum, LucidaNewMath-Extension, is > specialized to provide very large delimiters, and so has very large > descenders. Such large descenders, when specified in the screen > font, will cause a large increases in leading (line spacing) in many > applications, if character from this font are mixed with ordinary > text. > > LucidaNewMath-Symbol is a borderline case, in that just a single > character (`radical', code position 112) has a very large descender. > To properly render this character - used for square root in TeX - a > correspondingly large descender has to be specified in the screen > font. When the fonts are used with applications other than TeX, > however, a screen font can be used that ignores this one exceptional > character and sets the descender to a value more in line with typical > text fonts. That way characters from LucidaNewMath-Symbol can be > mixed freely with ordinary text also. Text fonts ========== There are two alternate font metrics suitcases "LucidaBright Mac Metrics" and "LucidaBright CM Metrics". The first one must be used with versions of Textures including and after 1.6, and the second with versions before 1.6. From another ReadMe: > `LucidaBright CM Metrics' is a TeXtures metric file set up for > use of the LucidaBright text fonts with Textures' `TeX text' encoding > (which mimics the way the CM text fonts are laid out). This metric > file is provided primarily for use with versions of Textures *before* > Textures 1.6 (this Metrics file for the text fonts was the default for > use with earlier versions of Textures). > > The `Lucida Mac Metrics' file in the 'Metrics File' folder is instead > set up to use the new 'MacintoshStandard' encoding supported by > Textures 1.6. We recommend using that, since it makes many more > characters available, including the accented characters. However, I'm providing these details for info only, as I don't think they are involved when using the Lucida fonts with gwTeX. Having only Illustrator 10, I can't be of more help. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From m.j.b.stokhof at uva.nl Sun May 8 08:04:38 2005 From: m.j.b.stokhof at uva.nl (Martin Stokhof) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 14:04:38 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] In-Reply-To: <757242FC-4FD1-47CF-9BE6-835C894C1880@ameritech.net> References: <757242FC-4FD1-47CF-9BE6-835C894C1880@ameritech.net> Message-ID: <83C88BB6-AC3C-4CF9-A934-CF8B25AC02C8@uva.nl> On May 08, 2005, at 02:17, Rohan Attele wrote: > Hi! > Is Cocoa aspell spell check working in TexShop 2? I have installed > latest spell checker, enabled UK dictionary(ize), texshop says > cannot contact spell checker. > Rohan Attele I had the same experience; a logout/login solved it for me. Martin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 8 09:53:44 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 15:53:44 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Man and info pages in gwTeX Message-ID: Are there specific reasons why info and man pages are not added to the corresponding default paths, in the same way as for the bin executables, when the TeX and GS i-Packages are installed? Is this security-connected? I'm asking this because, with the default setup, it's not possible to use "man" in Terminal, or in utilities like ManOpen, for TeX and friends. Noticing that for DarwinPorts it's recommended to add in ~/.profile stuff like (for bash): # DarwinPorts path additions export PATH=$PATH:/opt/local/bin export MANPATH=$MANPATH:/opt/local/share/man export INFOPATH=$INFOPATH:/opt/local/share/info I've been thinking of doing the same for gwTeX. Namely, replacing for bash, in /etc/profile, the lines (added when the GS i-Package is installed with CLI activation selected): if [ `whoami` != "root" ] then PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/bin" export PATH fi by: if [ `whoami` != "root" ] then PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/bin" export PATH MANPATH="$MANPATH:/usr/local/man" export MANPATH INFOPATH="$INFOPATH:/usr/local/info" export INFOPATH fi and the lines (added when the TeX i-Package is installed with CLI activation selected): if [ `whoami` != "root" ] then PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current" export PATH fi by: if [ `whoami` != "root" ] then PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current" export PATH MANPATH="$MANPATH:/usr/local/teTeX/man" export MANPATH INFOPATH="$INFOPATH:/usr/local/teTeX/info" export INFOPATH fi and similarly in /etc/csh.login for csh. Are there specific reasons why this should better not be done? If not, could it be added to the default CLI activation options? Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 8 10:20:38 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 16:20:38 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> Le 7 mai 05 ? 11:33, Maarten Sneep a ?crit : > On May 6, 2005, at 4:33 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > >> When installing, ClamXav creates a clamav group and a clamav user, >> visible under NetInfo Manager and used (according to the doc) for >> retrieving updates. Is that what you mean? > > No, the clamav user is there on my system, even though I've never > installed clamXav. Then I imagine you've got Tiger Server, which includes clamav . About it, the clamav FAQ says: 1. How do I remove the clamav account from my MacOSX server 10.4 (Tiger)? The clamav user was set up by Apple and we don't know anything about it. 2. What is the password for the clamav user on MacOSX server 10.4 (Tiger)? The clamav user was set up by Apple who has not told us the password they use, please contact Apple support for help. You may find that sudo password clamav in a terminal session helps to change the password, however we cannot support the option. What I'm wondering now is whether clamXav (the OS X port of clamav) can be made, on Tiger Client, to automatically scan incoming mails in Mail.app (without having to fiddle with Tiger, that is). In my case, installing clamav at the mail server level (IMAP, POP and SMTP) isn't an option, as the mail server (a Debian linux box) is run by my lab's sysadmin, but I can suggest it to him. But then it's also possible clamav is already installed on another server one or two levels higher up in the university server hierarchy. HTH, Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Sun May 8 10:39:33 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 07:39:33 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Man and info pages in gwTeX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 8, 2005, at 06:53, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Are there specific reasons why info and man pages are not added to > the corresponding default paths, in the same way as for the bin > executables, when the TeX and GS i-Packages are installed? Is this > security-connected? ISTR that you are no longer supposed to set MANPATH directly, as the system handles this for you by searching next to bin directories (e.g. if your PATH has /usr/local/bin, it will search /usr/local/man automatically). See the manual pages for manpath or man(1). I find that even though the manpath command reports /usr/local/teTeX/man as part of the search path, I don't get any teTeX man pages unless I add /usr/local/teTeX/bin to PATH. Is this a Tiger-only problem? -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sun May 8 10:46:02 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 16:46:02 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> Message-ID: <35F18A19-110B-4F0A-8B98-2A5D4CDC2CF4@xs4all.nl> On May 8, 2005, at 4:20 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 7 mai 05 ? 11:33, Maarten Sneep a ?crit : > >> On May 6, 2005, at 4:33 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: >> >>> When installing, ClamXav creates a clamav group and a clamav >>> user, visible under NetInfo Manager and used (according to the >>> doc) for retrieving updates. Is that what you mean? >> >> No, the clamav user is there on my system, even though I've never >> installed clamXav. > > Then I imagine you've got Tiger Server, which includes clamav [looks at bill:] No, that isn't server, just a clean install of Tiger client. [looks again at 'about this mac':] "Mac OS X, version 10.4 (no mention of server there) [click] build 8A428. Note that I did wipe my drive before instaling, and that I formatted as Case sensitive HFS+. Maybe that triggered some things, but I find that hard to believe. Maarten--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bb at creativeeyes.at Sun May 8 11:13:35 2005 From: bb at creativeeyes.at (Bernhard Barkow) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 17:13:35 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <35F18A19-110B-4F0A-8B98-2A5D4CDC2CF4@xs4all.nl> References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> <35F18A19-110B-4F0A-8B98-2A5D4CDC2CF4@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 8. Mai 2005, at 16:46, Maarten Sneep wrote: >>>> When installing, ClamXav creates a clamav group and a clamav >>>> user, visible under NetInfo Manager and used (according to the >>>> doc) for retrieving updates. Is that what you mean? >>>> >>> >>> No, the clamav user is there on my system, even though I've never >>> installed clamXav. >>> >> >> Then I imagine you've got Tiger Server, which includes clamav >> > > [looks at bill:] No, that isn't server, just a clean install of > Tiger client. [looks again at 'about this mac':] "Mac OS X, version > 10.4 (no mention of server there) [click] build 8A428. > > Note that I did wipe my drive before instaling, and that I > formatted as Case sensitive HFS+. Maybe that triggered some things, > but I find that hard to believe. I too wiped my drive and formatted it as HFS+; in Tiger (Client), the clamav user exists, but ClamAV is not installed on the system; as I said before, I assume it's just a leftover from Tiger Server. ClamAV only makes sense unless you either use the system as a mail server (i.e. to have ClamAV work at server level, which is the intention of the clamav user configured by Apple), or use it as on-demand scanner (also for scanning incoming mails, for example with the AppleScript I adapted (http://www.creativeeyes.at/tools/clamav.php)). If you don't use ClamAV, I guess it can't do any harm to delete the user with the Netinfo Utility; of course, it will probably do even less harm to just leave the clamav user as it is... Bernhard -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCfiyjqJ8JxFkhAg0RAs/lAKCgaAl8wYUoX5uMD2iM9Dkg4LB4/wCgxspV ayWXZb3/TNrI1O4b05urvmA= =jo1b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bb at creativeeyes.at Sun May 8 11:23:11 2005 From: bb at creativeeyes.at (Bernhard Barkow) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 17:23:11 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Man and info pages in gwTeX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2DBF456E-FB48-4933-A5E1-C6ABFFF59263@creativeeyes.at> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 8. Mai 2005, at 16:39, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > >> Are there specific reasons why info and man pages are not added to >> the corresponding default paths, in the same way as for the bin >> executables, when the TeX and GS i-Packages are installed? Is this >> security-connected? >> > > ISTR that you are no longer supposed to set MANPATH directly, as > the system handles this for you by searching next to bin > directories (e.g. if your PATH has /usr/local/bin, it will search / > usr/local/man automatically). See the manual pages for manpath or > man(1). I find that even though the manpath command reports /usr/ > local/teTeX/man as part of the search path, I don't get any teTeX > man pages unless I add /usr/local/teTeX/bin to PATH. Is this a > Tiger-only problem? Hi, that's no solution for you, but just FYI: my path contains only /usr/ local/teTeX, not /usr/local/teTeX/bin, manpath also reports /usr/ local/teTeX/man - but man finds the correct man page files. I did a clean install of Tiger, and reinstalled teTeX over the old installation (it's not on the OS partition), so I guess it's not directly Tiger-related? Stupid question: are your man pages in the correct loacation (e.g., / usr/local/teTeX/man/man1/latex.1)? Bernhard -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCfi7jqJ8JxFkhAg0RAvyvAJ4u1j6y5lg7wpUASNKuj0OQRq0nmACdH2dO YI8VgsS9r7pwulqyEBlKZvM= =tRU6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 8 11:33:07 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 17:33:07 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> <35F18A19-110B-4F0A-8B98-2A5D4CDC2CF4@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <599C8D8C-7A95-4AAE-8B4E-AE9E3CE9A272@mac.com> Le 8 mai 05 ? 17:13, Bernhard Barkow a ?crit : > ClamAV only makes sense unless you either use the system as a mail > server (i.e. to have ClamAV work at server level, which is the > intention of the clamav user configured by Apple), or use it as on- > demand scanner (also for scanning incoming mails, for example with > the AppleScript I adapted (http://www.creativeeyes.at/tools/ > clamav.php)). Thanks for reminding this, which answers my question about how to get clamav to scan incoming emails automatically. You had mentioned it a couple of days ago, but I had forgotten. Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gurari at cse.ohio-state.edu Sun May 8 11:33:58 2005 From: gurari at cse.ohio-state.edu (Eitan Gurari) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 11:33:58 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: tex4ht In-Reply-To: References: <721DF6EC-5063-431F-9A06-C3B9A5085294@ch.inter.net> Message-ID: <17022.12646.62255.442126@xi.cse.ohio-state.edu> > > 1.- the translation of formulaes are too big pictures; unusable; Can you provide a miniature complete sample latex file illustrating the problem. > > 2.- the translation of ligatures are unsable, unreadable; This (common) problem is due to lack of font support for the browser. In any case, the distribution in the bug fixes page http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/bugfixes.html undo the `fi' and `ff' ligatures in the default setting. If other ligatures need similar handling I'll appreciate being informed about their identities. -eitan --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From acurtis at ieee.org Sun May 8 11:34:49 2005 From: acurtis at ieee.org (Alan Curtis) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 11:34:49 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and Lucida doesn't In-Reply-To: <875D7721-6BD2-4AA8-B42C-5DE4706F9983@ucalgary.ca> References: <875D7721-6BD2-4AA8-B42C-5DE4706F9983@ucalgary.ca> Message-ID: On May 4, 2005, at 9:42 PM, Gordon Sick wrote: > Further to my earlier post, I've been pursuing the issue of being able > to edit pdfs created by PDFLatex on Mac OS X with Illustrator CS1. I > had earlier thought that this wouldn't work at all, because > Illustrator won't recognize the fonts, but I now find that I > Illustrator WILL correctly handle the default CMR fonts with no > problem but NOT the Lucida Y&Y fonts. > > I've checked my system, and I don't have the Tex-Illustrator version > of CMR on the system. When I open the CMR text (created with TeXShop 2 > defaults) in Illustrator CS, I can see the CMR fonts and even select > the text line and add text. I know it is the Tex version of CMR, > because when I type a space, it gives me a ? mark rather than a space. Just a thought --- did you check to see if the CMR fonts are in *Library/Application\ Support/Adobe ? I would second using Maarten's ghostscript solution, as even with CMR fonts problems occur in Illustrator (with odd characters missing - \pm and \gamma come to mind). Alan --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Sun May 8 11:55:28 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 08:55:28 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Man and info pages in gwTeX In-Reply-To: <2DBF456E-FB48-4933-A5E1-C6ABFFF59263@creativeeyes.at> References: <2DBF456E-FB48-4933-A5E1-C6ABFFF59263@creativeeyes.at> Message-ID: On May 8, 2005, at 08:23, Bernhard Barkow wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > > On 8. Mai 2005, at 16:39, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > >> >> >>> Are there specific reasons why info and man pages are not added >>> to the corresponding default paths, in the same way as for the >>> bin executables, when the TeX and GS i-Packages are installed? Is >>> this security-connected? >>> >>> >> >> ISTR that you are no longer supposed to set MANPATH directly, as >> the system handles this for you by searching next to bin >> directories (e.g. if your PATH has /usr/local/bin, it will search / >> usr/local/man automatically). See the manual pages for manpath or >> man(1). I find that even though the manpath command reports /usr/ >> local/teTeX/man as part of the search path, I don't get any teTeX >> man pages unless I add /usr/local/teTeX/bin to PATH. Is this a >> Tiger-only problem? >> > > Hi, > > that's no solution for you, but just FYI: my path contains only / > usr/local/teTeX, not /usr/local/teTeX/bin, manpath also reports / > usr/local/teTeX/man - but man finds the correct man page files. My path (before I added /usr/local/teTeX/bin) contains /usr/local/ teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current, which might mess up the manpath? I'm not sure what heuristic it uses to search alongside bin directories. > I did a clean install of Tiger, and reinstalled teTeX over the old > installation (it's not on the OS partition), so I guess it's not > directly Tiger-related? I have a clean (erase install) of Tiger. > Stupid question: are your man pages in the correct loacation > (e.g., /usr/local/teTeX/man/man1/latex.1)? Yes, and since I added /usr/local/teTeX/bin I can read them as well. -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sun May 8 11:57:50 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 17:57:50 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <35F18A19-110B-4F0A-8B98-2A5D4CDC2CF4@xs4all.nl> References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> <35F18A19-110B-4F0A-8B98-2A5D4CDC2CF4@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <366f7862b6acc0d059b0230ddac64e70@Web.DE> Am 08.05.2005 um 16:46 schrieb Maarten Sneep: > Case sensitive HFS+ Either you're joking -- or some of the extras that were introduced to Mac OS X 10.3.x Server are available in Tiger desktop, when you install onto a blank disk! -- Greetings Pete "I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -- Hunter S. Thompson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Sun May 8 12:17:27 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 09:17:27 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <366f7862b6acc0d059b0230ddac64e70@Web.DE> References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> <35F18A19-110B-4F0A-8B98-2A5D4CDC2CF4@xs4all.nl> <366f7862b6acc0d059b0230ddac64e70@Web.DE> Message-ID: <7DA5FCCB-11AA-48E5-9A1C-A3843381A96D@mac.com> On May 8, 2005, at 08:57, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 08.05.2005 um 16:46 schrieb Maarten Sneep: > > >> Case sensitive HFS+ >> > > Either you're joking -- or some of the extras that were introduced > to Mac OS X 10.3.x Server are available in Tiger desktop, when you > install onto a blank disk! The option isn't available through the Tiger OS installer, but you can format disk images as HFS+ case-sensitive in Disk Utility.app; I'm not going to erase one of my volumes to see if that extends to internal partitions, though :). You could also use diskutil(8). -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sun May 8 12:30:36 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 18:30:36 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <366f7862b6acc0d059b0230ddac64e70@Web.DE> References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> <35F18A19-110B-4F0A-8B98-2A5D4CDC2CF4@xs4all.nl> <366f7862b6acc0d059b0230ddac64e70@Web.DE> Message-ID: <7F9670CD-B6CD-4794-8F58-02960C79E582@xs4all.nl> On May 8, 2005, at 5:57 PM, Peter Dyballa wrote: > Am 08.05.2005 um 16:46 schrieb Maarten Sneep: > >> Case sensitive, journaled HFS+ > > Either you're joking -- or some of the extras that were introduced > to Mac OS X 10.3.x Server are available in Tiger desktop, when you > install onto a blank disk! Not joking: It is available in Panther Client through Disk Utility _if_ you edit a property list (/System/Library/Filesystems/... use Google to find the detailed instructions). I used this prior to installing Tiger (booting from a FireWire drive). So it did require me to jump through some hoops. The installer itself doesn't offer this option, but Disk Utility does under Tiger. Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From farwer at informatik.uni-hamburg.de Sun May 8 12:54:58 2005 From: farwer at informatik.uni-hamburg.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Berndt=A0_Farwer?=) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 18:54:58 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger Preview.app and presentations Message-ID: <2CE05459-8C4A-4455-BB1B-2DA61D7462B7@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> I am missing the simple full screen mode of Preview 2 in Tiger's Preview 3. I used to use it for all my LaTex PDF presentations. Now the only thing I can find is a Slideshow feature, that automatically advances the pages and has an ugly controls panel at the bottom. Is the old mode no longer available or is there an option that I have not yet found?! TIA, Berndt --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bb at creativeeyes.at Sun May 8 12:58:30 2005 From: bb at creativeeyes.at (Bernhard Barkow) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 18:58:30 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Man and info pages in gwTeX In-Reply-To: References: <2DBF456E-FB48-4933-A5E1-C6ABFFF59263@creativeeyes.at> Message-ID: <64D0C05A-1432-4279-9B96-2FA0F244E570@creativeeyes.at> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 8. Mai 2005, at 17:55, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: >>>> Are there specific reasons why info and man pages are not added >>>> to the corresponding default paths, in the same way as for the >>>> bin executables, when the TeX and GS i-Packages are installed? >>>> Is this security-connected? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ISTR that you are no longer supposed to set MANPATH directly, as >>> the system handles this for you by searching next to bin >>> directories (e.g. if your PATH has /usr/local/bin, it will >>> search /usr/local/man automatically). See the manual pages for >>> manpath or man(1). I find that even though the manpath command >>> reports /usr/local/teTeX/man as part of the search path, I don't >>> get any teTeX man pages unless I add /usr/local/teTeX/bin to >>> PATH. Is this a Tiger-only problem? >>> >>> >> >> Hi, >> >> that's no solution for you, but just FYI: my path contains only / >> usr/local/teTeX, not /usr/local/teTeX/bin, manpath also reports / >> usr/local/teTeX/man - but man finds the correct man page files. >> > > My path (before I added /usr/local/teTeX/bin) contains /usr/local/ > teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current, which might mess up the > manpath? I'm not sure what heuristic it uses to search alongside > bin directories. Hi, I don't know either how the path is searched, but that's how my $PATH looks: % echo $PATH /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/ local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/share/ ghostscript:/usr/local/mysql/bin:/usr/local/teTeX:. As far as I remember, I had to include /usr/local/teTeX manually - but now that I think about it, the reason seems obvious: if you only have /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current in your path, the system probably searches /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/man or something similar, since /usr/local/teTeX/bin is actually not included in /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current . If I get it right, adding /usr/local/teTeX should make /usr/local/ teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current redundant. Conclusion: should /usr/local/teTeX be added to $PATH by i-Installer instead of (or in addition to) /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple- darwin-current ? What I notice apart from that is that in my case /usr/local/bin is included twice, I assume that since Tiger it is included by the system, but some other installer adds it to csh.login again. > >> Stupid question: are your man pages in the correct loacation >> (e.g., /usr/local/teTeX/man/man1/latex.1)? >> > > Yes, and since I added /usr/local/teTeX/bin I can read them as well. Just one of these "make sure the power-cord is plugged in"-Q&As :-) Bernhard -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFCfkU6qJ8JxFkhAg0RAvdUAKCUY/N4zYCK/NvjoHVD6y7pZsctpwCgvveK bbU092s4X2h19wjYRePcmd8= =JzUT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Sun May 8 13:07:55 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 13:07:55 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 8, 2005, at 10:20 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > In my case, installing clamav at the mail server level (IMAP, POP and > SMTP) isn't an option, as the mail server (a Debian linux box) is run > by my lab's sysadmin, but I can suggest it to him. I't really not hard to install and well worth it if you consider the amount of headaches and wasted time it prevents. It should be a matter of adding an RPM or two and tweeking the sendmail.cf. I would strongly and frequently suggest it to your admin. > But then it's also possible clamav is already installed on another > server one or two levels higher up in the university server hierarchy. If clamav is being used upstream, then you should be able to see it in your mail headers. A command-option-u will reveal all. Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Sun May 8 13:14:52 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 13:14:52 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> <35F18A19-110B-4F0A-8B98-2A5D4CDC2CF4@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <94221138df81788253a1b81581da0862@msrce.howard.edu> On May 8, 2005, at 11:13 AM, Bernhard Barkow wrote: > > If you don't use ClamAV, I guess it can't do any harm to delete the > user with the Netinfo Utility; of course, it will probably do even > less harm to just leave the clamav user as it is... > The whole reason for a clamav user is strictly for UNIX security purposes. Basically, you don't want a process to run with root privileges unless absolutely necessary. Also along the lines of UNIX security, a proper implementation should NEVER allow the clamav user to login i.e. there should be no valid password associated with the clamav user. I would assume the people at apple understand this and made it so. I'm not going to worry about this... Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Sun May 8 13:22:49 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 13:22:49 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Man and info pages in gwTeX In-Reply-To: <64D0C05A-1432-4279-9B96-2FA0F244E570@creativeeyes.at> References: <2DBF456E-FB48-4933-A5E1-C6ABFFF59263@creativeeyes.at> <64D0C05A-1432-4279-9B96-2FA0F244E570@creativeeyes.at> Message-ID: <07a88f78f29f9b8b25a8e2e3f6ff1c1f@msrce.howard.edu> On May 8, 2005, at 12:58 PM, Bernhard Barkow wrote: > I don't know either how the path is searched, but that's how my $PATH > looks: > % echo $PATH > /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/ > local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/local/share/ > ghostscript:/usr/local/mysql/bin:/usr/local/teTeX:. At least in panther, man paths are set in /private/etc/manpath.config and are searched in exactly the order they are listed. So if there are two man pages with the same name in different sections, the first one found is the one displayed. Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From costabel at wanadoo.fr Sun May 8 13:23:58 2005 From: costabel at wanadoo.fr (Martin Costabel) Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 19:23:58 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Man and info pages in gwTeX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <427E4B2E.6090805@wanadoo.fr> Bruno Voisin wrote: > Are there specific reasons why info and man pages are not added to the > corresponding default paths, in the same way as for the bin > executables, when the TeX and GS i-Packages are installed? Is this > security-connected? I don't know if you noticed, but the man/manpath/MANPATH system has again changed between Panther and Tiger: On Panther, the MANPATH environment variable was working, but was being considered with a certain hostility by manpath and its followers. The one and only configuration file (which was used and written to by GWtex) was /etc/manpath.config. On Tiger, the hostility seems to have disappeared, and the config file is now /usr/share/misc/man.conf; in addition its name is configurable. -- Martin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 8 13:51:11 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 19:51:11 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Man and info pages in gwTeX In-Reply-To: <427E4B2E.6090805@wanadoo.fr> References: <427E4B2E.6090805@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <5E9CE176-0F35-4D42-ACDC-4AD2D5A05143@mac.com> Le 8 mai 05 ? 19:23, Martin Costabel a ?crit : > I don't know if you noticed, but the man/manpath/MANPATH system has > again changed between Panther and Tiger: > > On Panther, the MANPATH environment variable was working, but was > being considered with a certain hostility by manpath and its > followers. The one and only configuration file (which was used and > written to by GWtex) was /etc/manpath.config. > > On Tiger, the hostility seems to have disappeared, and the config > file is now /usr/share/misc/man.conf; in addition its name is > configurable. Many thanks for the info. Thus it seems what should be done is adding to this file, or to a similar file if there can be several such files, the entry: MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/ / usr/local/teTeX/man/ But it seems there's also a conflict between the default in this file: MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/share/man and the structure used by gwTeX which would require: MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man It's amusing to note man.conf also contains reference to TeX, but apparently to a TeX of a different kind: #MANPATH /opt/teTeX/man Bruno --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 8 13:58:08 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 19:58:08 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <94221138df81788253a1b81581da0862@msrce.howard.edu> References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> <35F18A19-110B-4F0A-8B98-2A5D4CDC2CF4@xs4all.nl> <94221138df81788253a1b81581da0862@msrce.howard.edu> Message-ID: <504F3700-35B0-456F-AE9A-621DF27CE4AC@mac.com> Le 8 mai 05 ? 19:14, Aaron Jackson a ?crit : > The whole reason for a clamav user is strictly for UNIX security > purposes. Basically, you don't want a process to run with root > privileges unless absolutely necessary. Also along the lines of > UNIX security, a proper implementation should NEVER allow the > clamav user to login i.e. there should be no valid password > associated with the clamav user. I would assume the people at > apple understand this and made it so. I'm not going to worry about > this... The clamav user created by clamXav has shell /sbin/nologin (as revealed by NetInfo Manager), thus I assume this means this user can't login. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 8 14:01:32 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 20:01:32 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> Message-ID: <19F32A4A-B1A4-4D7B-9DDD-B1F6F9CD4B2A@mac.com> Le 8 mai 05 ? 19:07, Aaron Jackson a ?crit : >> But then it's also possible clamav is already installed on >> another server one or two levels higher up in the university >> server hierarchy. > > If clamav is being used upstream, then you should be able to see it > in your mail headers. A command-option-u will reveal all. The full headers mention amavisd-new, which if I interpret correctly is a bridge between the mail server software and content scanners (i.e. antispam and antivirus software). I know SpamAssassin is installed, will ask about antivirus. Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jan at linguist.umass.edu Sun May 8 14:04:17 2005 From: jan at linguist.umass.edu (Jan Anderssen) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 14:04:17 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger Preview.app and presentations In-Reply-To: <2CE05459-8C4A-4455-BB1B-2DA61D7462B7@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> References: <2CE05459-8C4A-4455-BB1B-2DA61D7462B7@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> Message-ID: <690F7C04-3308-4BC5-8693-6B70CE49A2DC@linguist.umass.edu> hi berndt, > I am missing the simple full screen mode of Preview 2 in Tiger's > Preview 3. I used to use it for all my LaTex PDF presentations. Now > the only thing I can find is a Slideshow feature, that > automatically advances the pages and has an ugly controls panel at > the bottom. Is the old mode no longer available or is there an > option that I have not yet found?! if you set the slideshow to pause, you can use the the arrow keys to navigate through it manually like before. the control panel disappears as soon as you move the mouse somewhere else. jan --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From farwer at informatik.uni-hamburg.de Sun May 8 14:16:14 2005 From: farwer at informatik.uni-hamburg.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Berndt=A0_Farwer?=) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 20:16:14 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger Preview.app and presentations In-Reply-To: <690F7C04-3308-4BC5-8693-6B70CE49A2DC@linguist.umass.edu> References: <2CE05459-8C4A-4455-BB1B-2DA61D7462B7@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> <690F7C04-3308-4BC5-8693-6B70CE49A2DC@linguist.umass.edu> Message-ID: <7FEF84EE-2E32-45AF-A9F2-C6D7768EBB02@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> On 8 May 2005, at 20:04 Uhr, Jan Anderssen wrote: >> I am missing the simple full screen mode of Preview 2 in Tiger's >> Preview 3. I used to use it for all my LaTex PDF presentations. >> Now the only thing I can find is a Slideshow feature, that >> automatically advances the pages and has an ugly controls panel at >> the bottom. Is the old mode no longer available or is there an >> option that I have not yet found?! >> > > if you set the slideshow to pause, you can use the the arrow keys > to navigate through it manually like before. the control panel > disappears as soon as you move the mouse somewhere else. > > jan ... but the paner re-appears with every new page, i.e. every time I press the right or left arrow key. I guess I will have to go get acquainted with Adobe Reader after some years of abstinence :-( --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 8 14:22:18 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 20:22:18 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger Preview.app and presentations In-Reply-To: <2CE05459-8C4A-4455-BB1B-2DA61D7462B7@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> References: <2CE05459-8C4A-4455-BB1B-2DA61D7462B7@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> Message-ID: <9C57123F-9AD2-4C17-9D14-6E2426BE97FC@mac.com> Le 8 mai 05 ? 18:54, Berndt Farwer a ?crit : > I am missing the simple full screen mode of Preview 2 in Tiger's > Preview 3. I used to use it for all my LaTex PDF presentations. Now > the only thing I can find is a Slideshow feature, that > automatically advances the pages and has an ugly controls panel at > the bottom. Is the old mode no longer available or is there an > option that I have not yet found?! It seems there are other unwelcome changes in Preview.app: no alert pops up any longer, when printing a document without large enough margins, to ask what should be done (crop or scale). I saw nothing in the Prefs or in the Print dialog, allowing rescaling; cropping seems to be the default. As a consequence, to print a PDF document with practically no margins (a tax form I just filled in today), I finally had to resort to Adobe Reader to avoid the pages being cropped. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Sun May 8 14:41:02 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 14:41:02 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <504F3700-35B0-456F-AE9A-621DF27CE4AC@mac.com> References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> <35F18A19-110B-4F0A-8B98-2A5D4CDC2CF4@xs4all.nl> <94221138df81788253a1b81581da0862@msrce.howard.edu> <504F3700-35B0-456F-AE9A-621DF27CE4AC@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 8, 2005, at 1:58 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 8 mai 05 ? 19:14, Aaron Jackson a ?crit : > >> The whole reason for a clamav user is strictly for UNIX security >> purposes. Basically, you don't want a process to run with root >> privileges unless absolutely necessary. Also along the lines of UNIX >> security, a proper implementation should NEVER allow the clamav user >> to login i.e. there should be no valid password associated with the >> clamav user. I would assume the people at apple understand this and >> made it so. I'm not going to worry about this... > > The clamav user created by clamXav has shell /sbin/nologin (as > revealed by NetInfo Manager), thus I assume this means this user can't > login. Yes. The shell nologin prints the contents of /private/etc/nologin.txt and then quits. Of course, this only happens if the account has a valid password and the initial login interaction is successful. As far as security is concerned, paranoia is a good thing. So in addition to not having a valid password other common things to do is to make sure the shell is not valid and also there is no valid home directory for the user. Kinda like wearing a belt, suspenders and another pair of pants to make sure your pants never fall down unexpectedly, because you never want to be caught with your pants down... Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 8 14:48:57 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 20:48:57 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger Preview.app and presentations In-Reply-To: <9C57123F-9AD2-4C17-9D14-6E2426BE97FC@mac.com> References: <2CE05459-8C4A-4455-BB1B-2DA61D7462B7@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> <9C57123F-9AD2-4C17-9D14-6E2426BE97FC@mac.com> Message-ID: Le 8 mai 05 ? 20:22, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > It seems there are other unwelcome changes in Preview.app: no alert > pops up any longer, when printing a document without large enough > margins, to ask what should be done (crop or scale). I saw nothing > in the Prefs or in the Print dialog, allowing rescaling; cropping > seems to be the default. As a consequence, to print a PDF document > with practically no margins (a tax form I just filled in today), I > finally had to resort to Adobe Reader to avoid the pages being > cropped. Even stranger: for images in JPEG format, the print dialog includes (in the standard pull-down menu starting with Copies & Pages) an additional Preview item, allowing images to be rescaled, and there are two versions of the dialog: Advanced, as above, and Standard, displaying only a preview of the image together with the content of the Preview item, with no pull-down menu. For PDF files, these additional settings are gone. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sun May 8 14:51:40 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 20:51:40 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger Preview.app and presentations In-Reply-To: <2CE05459-8C4A-4455-BB1B-2DA61D7462B7@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> References: <2CE05459-8C4A-4455-BB1B-2DA61D7462B7@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> Message-ID: On May 8, 2005, at 6:54 PM, Berndt Farwer wrote: > I am missing the simple full screen mode of Preview 2 in Tiger's > Preview 3. I used to use it for all my LaTex PDF presentations. Now > the only thing I can find is a Slideshow feature, that > automatically advances the pages and has an ugly controls panel at > the bottom. Is the old mode no longer available or is there an > option that I have not yet found?! I once had a small tool for full screen presentations. I resurrected the tool for Tiger only. You can get it from http://www.nat.vu.nl/~sneep/tex/Presenter2.zip Warning: very limited capabilities, but it may be just what the doctor ordered. GPL/sources included. Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Sun May 8 14:55:59 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 14:55:59 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: <19F32A4A-B1A4-4D7B-9DDD-B1F6F9CD4B2A@mac.com> References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> <19F32A4A-B1A4-4D7B-9DDD-B1F6F9CD4B2A@mac.com> Message-ID: <99b606df08e49b29fb7bb2b4e88876b1@msrce.howard.edu> On May 8, 2005, at 2:01 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 8 mai 05 ? 19:07, Aaron Jackson a ?crit : > >>> But then it's also possible clamav is already installed on another >>> server one or two levels higher up in the university server >>> hierarchy. >> >> If clamav is being used upstream, then you should be able to see it >> in your mail headers. A command-option-u will reveal all. > > The full headers mention amavisd-new, which if I interpret > correctly is a bridge between > the mail server software and content scanners (i.e. antispam and > antivirus software). I know SpamAssassin is installed, will ask about > antivirus. I have never used amavisd-new, but the basic interaction is that the incoming message goes to the MTA, which then passes it off to content, attachment, spam and virus filtering (this is the role of amavisd-new). Depending on how things are setup, if everything is ok, the message is passed back to the MTA and is accepted for delivery. If the message does not pass one of the filters, it is either rejected BEFORE being accepted for delivery or marked and passed back to the MTA and accepted for delivery. The former is how virus messages should be handled after being scanned by clamav, while the latter is how messages are handled after being scanned by SpamAssassin. You should see something that indicates virus scanning. For your message I see the following in my headers: X-SMTP-Vilter-Virus-Backend: clamd X-SMTP-Vilter-Status: clean X-SMTP-Vilter-clamd-Virus-Status: clean It is possible that the message is scanned and not tagged, but I believe that the default is to tag the message. It should be trivial to implement virus filtering if amavisd-new and SpamAssassin is already setup (assuming that there is enough computer power to handle the extra load). Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From farwer at informatik.uni-hamburg.de Sun May 8 15:01:19 2005 From: farwer at informatik.uni-hamburg.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Berndt=A0_Farwer?=) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 21:01:19 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger Preview.app and presentations In-Reply-To: References: <2CE05459-8C4A-4455-BB1B-2DA61D7462B7@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> Message-ID: <660DDA6D-0132-4713-9072-FC254F92FC0F@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> On 8 May 2005, at 20:51 Uhr, Maarten Sneep wrote: > I once had a small tool for full screen presentations. I > resurrected the tool for Tiger only. > You can get it from http://www.nat.vu.nl/~sneep/tex/Presenter2.zip > Warning: very limited capabilities, but it may be just what the > doctor ordered. > GPL/sources included. > > Maarten Thanks Maarten and all others for the suggestions! I have now found a solution ;-) ... simply copies the old Preview.app from a machine running Panther and renamed it "Preview2". This works as usual, as far as I can tell right now, and has the nice full screen mode I have become used to ... Berndt --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 8 15:59:39 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 21:59:39 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: Choice between Panther and Tiger Message-ID: <20CFFB64-6175-4B9B-BA0F-3EC316914033@mac.com> Thinking about all the things that've been said about Tiger in a week, the pros and cons, and about the people that may be wondering whether it's worth to upgrade: one very important thing to realize is that, as far as email is concerned, the change is irreversible. When loading Mail in Tiger for the first time, you will be asked whether you allow your mailboxes to be converted for use in Tiger. The conversion is actually not trivial: for compatibility with SpotLight, your mailboxes, which were all kept in Unix-compatible format, as a mbox file inside a .mbox bundle, will be separated into a multitude of .emlx files, one per message. The new organisation of a mailbox will be, for example: OS X TeX.mbox: Info.plist Messages 15752.emlx 15753.emlx ... content_index mbox mbox.SKindex mbox.SKindex.isValid table_of_contents As new messages come in, the original mbox file won't be updated, neither will be the accompanying files table_of_contents etc.; instead, the new messages will all be added as individual .emlx files inside the Messages subfolder. This means that it won't be possible to easily import your mailboxes in Mozilla or Thunderbird say, should you consider later to switch emailer or change platform. Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk Sun May 8 16:30:46 2005 From: Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk (Ralph Martin) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 21:30:46 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: Choice between Panther and Tiger In-Reply-To: <20CFFB64-6175-4B9B-BA0F-3EC316914033@mac.com> References: <20CFFB64-6175-4B9B-BA0F-3EC316914033@mac.com> Message-ID: <15B6D58B-D669-427B-824D-0F26869ABAA2@cs.cf.ac.uk> On 8 May 2005, at 8:59 pm, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Thinking about all the things that've been said about Tiger in a > week, the pros and cons, and about the people that may be wondering > whether it's worth to upgrade: one very important thing to realize > is that, as far as email is concerned, the change is irreversible. Not if you use IMAP, which leaves the messages on the server (as well as locally caching copies...) Best wishes Ralph -- Prof Ralph Martin Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536 School of Computer Science Fax: +44(0)29 2087 4598 Cardiff University Email: mailto:ralph at cs.cf.ac.uk 5 The Parade, Roath WWW: http://ralph.cs.cf.ac.uk/ Cardiff, CF24 3AA, United Kingdom VOIP: sip:rrmwork at iptel.org --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Sun May 8 17:26:48 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 17:26:48 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: Choice between Panther and Tiger In-Reply-To: <20CFFB64-6175-4B9B-BA0F-3EC316914033@mac.com> References: <20CFFB64-6175-4B9B-BA0F-3EC316914033@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 8, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Thinking about all the things that've been said about Tiger in a week, > the pros and cons, and about the people that may be wondering whether > it's worth to upgrade: one very important thing to realize is that, as > far as email is concerned, the change is irreversible. > > When loading Mail in Tiger for the first time, you will be asked > whether you allow your mailboxes to be converted for use in Tiger. The > conversion is actually not trivial: for compatibility with SpotLight, > your mailboxes, which were all kept in Unix-compatible format, as a > mbox file inside a .mbox bundle, will be separated into a multitude of > .emlx files, one per message. The new organisation of a mailbox will > be, for example: > > OS X TeX.mbox: > Info.plist > Messages > 15752.emlx > 15753.emlx > ... > content_index > mbox > mbox.SKindex > mbox.SKindex.isValid > table_of_contents > > As new messages come in, the original mbox file won't be updated, > neither will be the accompanying files table_of_contents etc.; > instead, the new messages will all be added as individual .emlx files > inside the Messages subfolder. > > This means that it won't be possible to easily import your mailboxes > in Mozilla or Thunderbird say, should you consider later to switch > emailer or change platform. I haven't gone through this myself, as I haven't yet got Tiger, but it sounds like you are describing maildir format. See http://www.qmail.org/man/man5/maildir.html for more info. If so, then this is very much a standard and there are many conversion utilities available to switch between mbox and maildir format. The benefit of maildir over mbox is that messages are individual files. Instead of parsing through on 500MB file you look through a directory with many smaller files. Theoretically, this has a smaller memory requirement for the mail application. Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From riseguin at earthlink.net Sun May 8 22:02:08 2005 From: riseguin at earthlink.net (Richard Seguin) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 21:02:08 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: Choice between Panther and Tiger In-Reply-To: <20CFFB64-6175-4B9B-BA0F-3EC316914033@mac.com> References: <20CFFB64-6175-4B9B-BA0F-3EC316914033@mac.com> Message-ID: Furthermore, if you do a clean install like I did, you have to use the Import Mailboxes function under the file menu. You then select Mail for Mac OS X and then you have to point it to your old mail folder wherever you have stored it . In my case, the old mailboxes were backed up to a CD, and it imported them with no problem directly from the CD. It does not work to just simply move your old mailboxes into the new Mail folder as it once did. If you do that, the mail boxes appear in the sidebar, but they also appear to be empty. I've had no problems with anything since I have upgraded. I like the new preview module in TeXShop. The synchronization feature works beautifully without distorting the layout of the document (i.e, making it longer), and it now displays hyper-references. Alas, my old Titanium powerbook isn't fast enough to use the text editor with syntax coloring turned on. I wonder if anyone is working on a similar synchronization mechanism between BBEdit and the TeXShop previewer. Richard S?guin On May 8, 2005, at 2:59 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Thinking about all the things that've been said about Tiger in a > week, the pros and cons, and about the people that may be wondering > whether it's worth to upgrade: one very important thing to realize > is that, as far as email is concerned, the change is irreversible. > > When loading Mail in Tiger for the first time, you will be asked > whether you allow your mailboxes to be converted for use in Tiger. > The conversion is actually not trivial: for compatibility with > SpotLight, your mailboxes, which were all kept in Unix-compatible > format, as a mbox file inside a .mbox bundle, will be separated > into a multitude of .emlx files, one per message. The new > organisation of a mailbox will be, for example: > > OS X TeX.mbox: > Info.plist > Messages > 15752.emlx > 15753.emlx > ... > content_index > mbox > mbox.SKindex > mbox.SKindex.isValid > table_of_contents > > As new messages come in, the original mbox file won't be updated, > neither will be the accompanying files table_of_contents etc.; > instead, the new messages will all be added as individual .emlx > files inside the Messages subfolder. > > This means that it won't be possible to easily import your > mailboxes in Mozilla or Thunderbird say, should you consider later > to switch emailer or change platform. > > Bruno Voisin > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macmechanic at fastmail.fm Sun May 8 22:35:08 2005 From: macmechanic at fastmail.fm (Rene Borgella) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 22:35:08 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] case sensitive HFS+ In-Reply-To: <366f7862b6acc0d059b0230ddac64e70@Web.DE> References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> <35F18A19-110B-4F0A-8B98-2A5D4CDC2CF4@xs4all.nl> <366f7862b6acc0d059b0230ddac64e70@Web.DE> Message-ID: Dear Folks: Perhaps I am wrong, as I'm certainly no expert, but I seem to recall that HFS+ was not yet recommended for non-server (client) boot volumes. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it's currently most appropriate for non-boot vols. and raid arrays at the moment. I will see if I can dig up the relevant information in the next couple of days. My understanding is that case sensitive HFS+ is part of a metadata transition for the future and is not quite ready for prime time (I believe due primarily to limitation of Finder app. Arstechnica is one place where I recall a discussion that touched on this, though I don't think all of the info re. the appropriateness of case sensitive drives is there. I'll let you folks know what I dig up (if I can recall where I just recently saw this!). ren? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macmechanic at fastmail.fm Sun May 8 23:28:15 2005 From: macmechanic at fastmail.fm (Rene Borgella) Date: Sun, 8 May 2005 23:28:15 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] case sensitive HFS+ In-Reply-To: References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> <35F18A19-110B-4F0A-8B98-2A5D4CDC2CF4@xs4all.nl> <366f7862b6acc0d059b0230ddac64e70@Web.DE> Message-ID: A correction: "HFS+ case sensitive" is what I mean here . . . >" . . . , but I seem to recall that HFS+ was >not yet recommended for non-server (client) . . >. " and Justin said: "Why are you sending this to a TeX mailing list?" Because it's about Mac OS X and at least 2 others have written about formatting volumes as case-sensitive HFS+ ren? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lp15 at cam.ac.uk Mon May 9 04:29:54 2005 From: lp15 at cam.ac.uk (Lawrence Paulson) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 09:29:54 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: cocoaspell In-Reply-To: <27213.82496@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <27213.82496@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: I had the same problem and no amount of restarting or reinstalling would cure it. I have purged cocoaspell from my system, and can't say that I miss it particularly. Larry Paulson On 9 May 2005, at 01:00, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List wrote: > Is Cocoa aspell spell check working in TexShop 2? I have installed > latest spell checker, enabled UK dictionary(ize), texshop says > cannot contact spell checker. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Mon May 9 11:18:12 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:18:12 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: effective Macintosh Trojan in the wild In-Reply-To: References: <4B8AE5CB-3A2F-428F-8C75-3EEFB08335E6@mac.com> <6BA99F8E-511E-4685-A354-C53ACE132859@xs4all.nl> <114BB795-E570-4573-8728-47214A332D9D@mac.com> <35F18A19-110B-4F0A-8B98-2A5D4CDC2CF4@xs4all.nl> <94221138df81788253a1b81581da0862@msrce.howard.edu> <504F3700-35B0-456F-AE9A-621DF27CE4AC@mac.com> Message-ID: <3C5EAB7C-726C-4747-AA39-241402316FFA@mac.com> Le 8 mai 05 ? 20:41, Aaron Jackson a ?crit : > On May 8, 2005, at 1:58 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > >> The clamav user created by clamXav has shell /sbin/nologin (as >> revealed by NetInfo Manager), thus I assume this means this user >> can't login. > > Yes. The shell nologin prints the contents of /private/etc/ > nologin.txt and then quits. Of course, this only happens if the > account has a valid password and the initial login interaction is > successful. > > As far as security is concerned, paranoia is a good thing. So in > addition to not having a valid password other common things to do > is to make sure the shell is not valid and also there is no valid > home directory for the user. Kinda like wearing a belt, suspenders > and another pair of pants to make sure your pants never fall down > unexpectedly, because you never want to be caught with your pants > down... A new Archive & Install has revealed that there are indeed a clamav user and a clamav group in Tiger Client, with different characteristics from those installed by clamXav. According to NetInfo Manager: - Group: name "clamav", realname "SPAM Assassin Group 1" - User: name "clamav", realname "Clamav User", home /var/virusmails, shell /bin/tcsh But there's no directory /var/virusmails. Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From markoilcan at yahoo.com Mon May 9 12:41:19 2005 From: markoilcan at yahoo.com (mark oilcan) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 09:41:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: Choice between Panther and Tiger In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050509164119.97649.qmail@web53105.mail.yahoo.com> --- Aaron Jackson wrote: > On May 8, 2005, at 3:59 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > > > .emlx files, one per message. The new organisation of a mailbox > > will > > be, for example: > > > > OS X TeX.mbox: > > Info.plist > > Messages > > 15752.emlx > > 15753.emlx > > ... > > content_index > > mbox > > mbox.SKindex > > mbox.SKindex.isValid > > table_of_contents > > > > > > This means that it won't be possible to easily import your > > mailboxes > > in Mozilla or Thunderbird say, should you consider later to switch > > emailer or change platform. > > I haven't gone through this myself, as I haven't yet got Tiger, but > it > sounds like you are describing maildir format. See > http://www.qmail.org/man/man5/maildir.html for more info. If so, > then > this is very much a standard and there are many conversion utilities > available to switch between mbox and maildir format. The benefit of > maildir over mbox is that messages are individual files. Instead of > parsing through on 500MB file you look through a directory with many > smaller files. Theoretically, this has a smaller memory requirement > for the mail application. > I don't have Tiger either, so it would be informative if someone who does can verify this, but this mail format, quite unfortunately, actually does NOT sound like maildir format. A maildir mailbox contains three subdirectories: cur, new, tmp with individual messages stored in cur. Also the names of the files which contain these messages must follow a specific form. This insures interoperability with different mail clients. It sure would have been nice if Apple had used a standard like maildir instead of inventing one of their own. MarkA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From johan at almqvist.net Mon May 9 14:24:18 2005 From: johan at almqvist.net (Johan Almqvist) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 20:24:18 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: Choice between Panther and Tiger In-Reply-To: <20050509164119.97649.qmail@web53105.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050509164119.97649.qmail@web53105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On May 9, 2005, at 18:41, mark oilcan wrote: > I don't have Tiger either, so it would be informative if someone who > does can verify this, but this mail format, quite unfortunately, > actually does NOT sound like maildir format. A maildir mailbox > contains > three subdirectories: cur, new, tmp with individual messages stored in > cur. Also the names of the files which contain these messages must > follow a specific form. This insures interoperability with different > mail clients. It sure would have been nice if Apple had used a > standard > like maildir instead of inventing one of their own. It's not Maildir. Anyway Maildir is only necessary to make sure that multiple simultaneous deliveries don't clobber the inbox; that's never going to happen in the Apple Mail scenario anyway. There's another one-file-per-message format that used to be popular but I can't recall the name nor the specifics. -Johan -- Johan Almqvist johan at almqvist.net --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From chugg at usc.edu Mon May 9 14:24:30 2005 From: chugg at usc.edu (Keith M. Chugg) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 11:24:30 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] another bad change in tiger preview... In-Reply-To: <660DDA6D-0132-4713-9072-FC254F92FC0F@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> References: <2CE05459-8C4A-4455-BB1B-2DA61D7462B7@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> <660DDA6D-0132-4713-9072-FC254F92FC0F@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> Message-ID: I use TexShop to create equations or symbols and then paste these into drawings in Omnigraffle. These are then saved as pdf and included in latex docs using \includegraphics. When printing from the new vers of preview these equations/symbols show up "fuzzy" as a pdf pasted into word looks. Printing from 10.3's preview or Acrobat 6, there is no problem... The new preview is also slow in screen-rendering these type of documents... keith chugg --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lberman at ursinus.edu Mon May 9 14:41:39 2005 From: lberman at ursinus.edu (Leah Berman) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 14:41:39 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] another bad change in tiger preview... In-Reply-To: References: <2CE05459-8C4A-4455-BB1B-2DA61D7462B7@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> <660DDA6D-0132-4713-9072-FC254F92FC0F@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> Message-ID: <5FA23B73-3805-4148-B83A-1B8D82B84FE7@ursinus.edu> Hi-- I was also trying to use TeXShop to clip part of a file today, and I couldn't figure out how to do it. I can select the text or graphic, but it doesn't really give me a selection box (although clicking option helped with that), and it didn't behave the nice way it used to (when it was easy to clip graphics). The only thing that seemed likely was to go to Preview/Save Selection to File... (which I then saved as a .pdf) but when I did that I got a blank file. Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong or if this is just a broken/missing feature in the new version? I'm running TeXShop 2.01. Thanks, Leah ........................................... Leah Wrenn Berman, Ph.D. Department of Mathematics & Computer Science Ursinus College P.O. Box 1000 Collegeville, PA 19426 610-409-3000 x2411 610-409-3660 (fax) Pfahler Hall 101D --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lberman at ursinus.edu Mon May 9 15:44:08 2005 From: lberman at ursinus.edu (Leah Berman) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 15:44:08 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] another bad change in tiger preview... In-Reply-To: <5FA23B73-3805-4148-B83A-1B8D82B84FE7@ursinus.edu> References: <2CE05459-8C4A-4455-BB1B-2DA61D7462B7@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> <660DDA6D-0132-4713-9072-FC254F92FC0F@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> <5FA23B73-3805-4148-B83A-1B8D82B84FE7@ursinus.edu> Message-ID: <9238B00E-33C0-492B-B2D0-B4405A39B31D@ursinus.edu> On May 9, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Leah Berman wrote: > I was also trying to use TeXShop to clip part of a file today, and > I couldn't figure out how to do it. In case there are others as clueless as I: if you click on the little double-arrows (>>) at the right side of the preview window, there are lots of lovely options, including the clipping one I was looking for. Now that I know how it works, I actually think that change is a nice one. Leah ........................................... Leah Wrenn Berman, Ph.D. Department of Mathematics & Computer Science Ursinus College P.O. Box 1000 Collegeville, PA 19426 610-409-3000 x2411 610-409-3660 (fax) Pfahler Hall 101D --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mark at bbprojects.net Mon May 9 16:26:28 2005 From: mark at bbprojects.net (Mark Smith) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 22:26:28 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: Choice between Panther and Tiger In-Reply-To: References: <20050509164119.97649.qmail@web53105.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4421167A-55FF-40F0-94D5-159620BB67F2@bbprojects.net> On May 9, 2005, at 20:24, Johan Almqvist wrote: > It's not Maildir. Anyway Maildir is only necessary to make sure > that multiple simultaneous deliveries don't clobber the inbox; > that's never going to happen in the Apple Mail scenario anyway. > > There's another one-file-per-message format that used to be popular > but I can't recall the name nor the specifics. MH or nmh? looks to be stagnating somewhat. I hadn't heard of this until it was stated on another list that Tiger Mail's .elmx files are MH-like ? mark --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From johan at almqvist.net Mon May 9 16:56:33 2005 From: johan at almqvist.net (Johan Almqvist) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 22:56:33 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT: Mail 2.0 mailbox format - Spotlight (was Choice between Panther and Tiger) In-Reply-To: <4421167A-55FF-40F0-94D5-159620BB67F2@bbprojects.net> References: <20050509164119.97649.qmail@web53105.mail.yahoo.com> <4421167A-55FF-40F0-94D5-159620BB67F2@bbprojects.net> Message-ID: On May 9, 2005, at 22:26, Mark Smith wrote: > MH or nmh? > > looks to be stagnating somewhat. I hadn't heard of this until it > was stated on another list that Tiger Mail's .elmx files are MH-like ? Not MH-alike enough for mutt http://www.mutt.org/ to open them, in any case.... Thread closed? -Johan -- Johan Almqvist johan at almqvist.net --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From hendrik.chaltin at univ.u-3mrs.fr Mon May 9 18:55:18 2005 From: hendrik.chaltin at univ.u-3mrs.fr (Hendrik Chaltin) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 00:55:18 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] different defaults for size? Message-ID: <1096be02cbcd5a967862b0ffa418e87a@univ.u-3mrs.fr> I was trying to make up my mind about what version of \mathcal to use \usepackage{mathptmx} or \usepackage{mathpazo} when I suddenly realized that the packages seem to induce slightly different defaults for \mathrm and \textrm (perhaps others too, I didn't check). It is visible both on the screen and on the outprint. I do not mind what size exactly the default is, but I don't want the aspect of entire documents to change just because I decide to change the \mathcal font. How can I fix the size default? Thanks, HC --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Mon May 9 19:18:41 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:18:41 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] different defaults for size? In-Reply-To: <1096be02cbcd5a967862b0ffa418e87a@univ.u-3mrs.fr> References: <1096be02cbcd5a967862b0ffa418e87a@univ.u-3mrs.fr> Message-ID: <358D4478-7A3B-457E-BDDF-01BEDAC84265@mac.com> Le 10 mai 05 ? 00:55, Hendrik Chaltin a ?crit : > I was trying to make up my mind > about what version of \mathcal to use > \usepackage{mathptmx} or \usepackage{mathpazo} > when I suddenly realized > that the packages seem to induce > slightly different defaults for \mathrm and \textrm > (perhaps others too, I didn't check). The primary difference is that mathptmx is based on Times, while mathpazo is based on Palatino; and the size of the characters in Palatino is slightly larger than that in Times. Is this what you mean, or something else? Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Mon May 9 19:19:31 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 18:19:31 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] different defaults for size? In-Reply-To: <1096be02cbcd5a967862b0ffa418e87a@univ.u-3mrs.fr> Message-ID: On 5/9/05 5:55 PM, "Hendrik Chaltin" wrote: > I was trying to make up my mind > about what version of \mathcal to use > \usepackage{mathptmx} or \usepackage{mathpazo} > when I suddenly realized > that the packages seem to induce > slightly different defaults for \mathrm and \textrm > (perhaps others too, I didn't check). > It is visible both on the screen > and on the outprint. > I do not mind what size exactly the default is, > but I don't want the aspect of entire documents to change > just because I decide to change the \mathcal font. > > How can I fix the size default? > > Thanks, > > HC > Howdy, Not a small change at all! The mathptmx package uses Times Roman for the Serif Font while the mathpazo package uses Palatino. Try them both out and see which one you like better. Also remember to pick a nice Sans Serif and Monospace (Typewriter) Font. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From hendrik.chaltin at univ.u-3mrs.fr Mon May 9 19:23:24 2005 From: hendrik.chaltin at univ.u-3mrs.fr (Hendrik Chaltin) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:23:24 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] script fonts Message-ID: ... in addition, I am getting a headache trying all eight combinations of \mathcal and \mathscr fonts with the following packages: %mathcal: \usepackage{mathptmx} \usepackage{mathpazo} \usepackage{calrsfs} \usepackage[mathcal]{euscript} %mathscr: \usepackage{mathrsfs} \usepackage[mathscr]{euscript} But there seem to be only three fonts involved. If I am not mistaken (sorry, headache!), each of the following represents one of these three: \usepackage{mathpazo} \mathcal \usepackage{mathptmx} \mathcal \usepackage[ mathscr]{euscript} \mathscr (But as I just wrote, different choices seem to jumble up size defaults.) Anyway, if there are only three fonts, isn't there a simple way to use all three at the same time? Thanks, HC --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From hendrik.chaltin at univ.u-3mrs.fr Mon May 9 19:27:01 2005 From: hendrik.chaltin at univ.u-3mrs.fr (Hendrik Chaltin) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 01:27:01 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] different defaults for size? In-Reply-To: <358D4478-7A3B-457E-BDDF-01BEDAC84265@mac.com> References: <1096be02cbcd5a967862b0ffa418e87a@univ.u-3mrs.fr> <358D4478-7A3B-457E-BDDF-01BEDAC84265@mac.com> Message-ID: On 10 May 2005, at 01:18, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Is this what you mean, Yep. But this doesn't solve my problem. I'll think it over when my headache is over. Thanks to Herb too. HC --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From sick at ucalgary.ca Tue May 10 00:03:22 2005 From: sick at ucalgary.ca (Gordon Sick) Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 22:03:22 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and Lucida doesn't In-Reply-To: <27213.82496@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <27213.82496@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: Results of further investigation of Lucida Fonts, PDFLatex, and Illustrator 10/CS In response to my recent query, I've helpful responses from Maarten Sneep, Peteter Dyballa, Bruno Voisin and Alan Curtis. Thanks to all. I've been able to follow up on many of the suggestions and here is the latest status report. In terms of whether I've done the YandY font installation right, I got my son to do the setup and he is very diligent on these things, following instructions posted on this list. In particular, I've created pdf files with the Lucida and CMR fonts that I have distributed to lots of people and they display properly. I just checked with my wife's PC and Acrobat recognizes them as Lucida and as being installed in the document. Thus, I believe that I do have a proper installation of the Y and Y Lucida fonts, gwTeTex and Texshop. I've got X11 installed, but it doesn't contain pdffonts or pdfinfo. However, in Acrobat Professional 6, the Document Properties of the Latex document with Lucida shows that my document has Embedded Subsets Type 1 fonts of LucidaBright (Ansi encoding), LucidaNewMath- Altitalic, (Custom encoding) and LucidaNewMath-Symbol (Ansi encoding). The document PDF Producer is listed as Apple pstopdf of AFPL Ghostscript 8.51, pf pdfTeX-1.20a depending on the different options I've used to create the document in TexShop Acrobat Professional lets me edit the LucidaBright text, but not the Lucida math stuff (complaining that it has no system font installed). It also lets me edit any of the CMR stuff (text or math), but I don't know what keys to press to get math characters. That is, I have gamma epsilon and can insert a character (in Acrobat) between them, but it comes out as regular text. I found that Illustrator (10 and CS) on one of my computers complained about not having Lucida Math and Lucida Bright, but the other only complained about Lucida Bright. Searching the first machine for occurences of LucidaBright led me to an old system folder that had a Java Virtual Machine in it that contained LucidaBright as a ttf font. The System and Library for that machine (running Panther) didn't have it -- it was only in the old Java Installation. When I copied the Lucida Bright fonts to my home ~/Library/Fonts on my other machine (running Tiger), Illustrator no longer complained about LucidaBright and actually made it editable (that is, I can add or delete text). However, I still cannot get the math to work. Here are the error messages I get from Illustrator: Adobe Illustrator CS error message: The font LucidaNewMath-AltItalic is missing Affected text will be displayed using a substitute font. The font LucidaNewMath-Symbol is missing. Affected text will be displayed using a substitute font. Below this is the warning message: The document "Test2.ps" uses fonts or characters which are not available or are in a different format than originally specified. Illustrator 10 Error Message: Missing Type 1 fonts have been substituted with the default font. Fonts with foreign encodings have been reencoded. BTW, I have also installed the yandy font folder (with folders for lubright, lucida, lumath, etc in it) in my /Library/Application\ Support/Adobe/Fonts folder I don't have the Blue Sky fonts, and, in particular, I don't have the ones that Bruno Voisin mentioned. I might ask Blue Sky whether they think this might work with TeTeX in OS X. I'm a little reluctant to contact them since TeTeX is essentially a competitor to Textures.... I'll close off with the code that I'm typesetting and the log file: \documentclass[11pt]{article} \usepackage{amssymb,amsmath} % Use Lucida fonts. Comment out the item below to use CMR \usepackage[LY1]{fontenc} \usepackage[expert,altbullet]{lucidabr} \begin{document} Test2 \emph{some italics} \textbf{some bold face} $\gamma \epsilon \Sigma = \frac{c}{d}$ \end{document} This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) \write18 enabled. output format initialized to PDF entering extended mode (./Scratch5.tex LaTeX2e <2003/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, d utch, italian, norsk, portuges, spanish, swedish, nohyphenation, loaded. (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/size11.clo)) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/amsfonts/amssymb.sty (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/amsfonts/amsfonts.sty)) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/amsmath/amsmath.sty For additional information on amsmath, use the `?' option. (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/amsmath/amstext.sty (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/amsmath/amsgen.sty)) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/amsmath/amsbsy.sty) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/amsmath/amsopn.sty)) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/psnfssx/ly1enc.def) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/psnfssx/ly1ptm.fd)) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/lucidabr/lucidabr.sty (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/lucida/ly1hlh.fd)) (./Scratch5.aux) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/lucidabr/lmrhlcm.fd) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/lucidabr/omlhlcm.fd) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/lucidabr/omshlcy.fd) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/lucidabr/omxhlcv.fd) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/amsfonts/umsa.fd) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/amsfonts/umsb.fd) [1{/ usr/local/t eTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}] (./ Scratch5.aux) )< /Users/gsick/Library/texmf/fonts/type1/yandy/lumath/lbms.pfb>{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/ enc/dvips/ psnfssx/texnansi.enc} Output written on Scratch5.pdf (1 page, 24004 bytes). Transcript written on Scratch5.log. Thanks for all your help. --cheers, Gordon Sick --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 10 04:52:09 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:52:09 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and Lucida doesn't In-Reply-To: References: <27213.82496@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <2F809111-50D9-4898-918B-60835E2320A9@mac.com> Le 10 mai 05 ? 06:03, Gordon Sick a ?crit : > , I have also installed the yandy font folder (with folders for > lubright, lucida, lumath, etc in it) in my > /Library/Application\ Support/Adobe/Fonts folder I'm not sure that can help. On the BSR disks, the fonts are in Classic font format (FFIL screen font suitcases and LWFN printer font files) and must go inside /System Folder/Fonts. > I don't have the Blue Sky fonts, and, in particular, I don't have > the ones that Bruno Voisin mentioned. I might ask Blue Sky whether > they think this might work with TeTeX in OS X. I'm a little > reluctant to contact them since TeTeX is essentially a competitor > to Textures.... I have the standard Lucida font set from BSR installed. See below what's observed in Illustrator 10. I tried to install the alternative Lucida Math screen fonts ("Ord" set, instead of "TeX" set, as described in my previous message): that doesn't change a thing. > I'll close off with the code that I'm typesetting and the log file: > > \documentclass[11pt]{article} > \usepackage{amssymb,amsmath} > % Use Lucida fonts. Comment out the item below to use CMR > \usepackage[LY1]{fontenc} > \usepackage[expert,altbullet]{lucidabr} > > \begin{document} > Test2 \emph{some italics} > \textbf{some bold face} > $\gamma \epsilon \Sigma = \frac{c}{d}$ > \end{document} Thanks for your example. I tried to typeset it in TeXShop, with four different settings: pdfTeX, TeX & GhostScript with GhostScript distiller (/usr/local/bin/ps2pdf), TeX & GhostScript with Apple distiller (/usr/bin/pstopdf), XeTeX. They all give different results. My setup is Tiger, Illustrator 10, gwTeX with 2005 devel. The fonts are all included as embedded subsets. - With pdfTeX, the resulting PDF is said by Adobe Reader 7 to contain: LucidaBright: Custom encoding LucidaBright-Demi: Custom encoding LucidaBright-Italic: Custom encoding LucidaNewmath-AltItalic: Custom encoding LucidaNewMath-Roman: Custom encoding LucidaNewMath-Symbol: Custom encoding and Illustrator 10 refuses to open it, reporting: Could not create internal representation of XAP metadata - With TeX + GS distiller: LucidaBright: ANSI encoding LucidaBright-Demi: ANSI encoding LucidaBright-Italic: ANSI encoding LucidaNewmath-AltItalic: Custom encoding LucidaNewMath-Roman: Custom encoding LucidaNewMath-Symbol: Custom encoding and Illustrator 10 opens the file but the characters corresponding to "\gamma \epsilon \Sigma" aren't displayed. - With TeX + Apple distiller: LucidaBright: ANSI encoding LucidaBright-Demi: ANSI encoding LucidaBright-Italic: ANSI encoding LucidaNewmath-AltItalic: Custom encoding LucidaNewMath-Roman: Custom encoding LucidaNewMath-Symbol: ANSI encoding and Illustrator 10 opens the file but the characters corresponding to "\gamma \epsilon \Sigma" aren't displayed and the character "=" is replaced by "\Im". - With XeTeX: LucidaBright: Roman encoding LucidaBright-Demi: Roman encoding LucidaBright-Italic: Roman encoding LucidaNewmath-AltItalic: Custom encoding LucidaNewmath-AltItalic: Roman encoding LucidaNewMath-Roman: Custom encoding LucidaNewMath-Symbol: Roman encoding and Illustrator 10 opens the file but the characters corresponding to "\gamma \epsilon \Sigma =" are replaced by "\omega \epsilon \omega \Im". Thus it all seems to boil down to encoding issues. I remember vaguely hearing on this list that Illustrator has problems with the encodings of TeX fonts in PDF files; not sure whether there's a solution. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 10 05:01:58 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:01:58 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] different defaults for size? In-Reply-To: References: <1096be02cbcd5a967862b0ffa418e87a@univ.u-3mrs.fr> <358D4478-7A3B-457E-BDDF-01BEDAC84265@mac.com> Message-ID: <14D32CC6-8055-4987-815A-BA25D035EE74@mac.com> Le 10 mai 05 ? 01:27, Hendrik Chaltin a ?crit : > On 10 May 2005, at 01:18, Bruno Voisin wrote: > >> Is this what you mean, > > Yep. > But this doesn't solve my problem. > I'll think it over when my headache is over. I think there's actually no problem: in this and the related post "script fonts", you seem to consider that it's possible to use both mathptmx and mathpazo at the same time. That's not true: it's either one, or the other: - mathptmx uses Times as the roman font (instead of CMR) and math fonts combining Times, Symbol and the CM math fonts. - mathpazo uses Palatino as the roman font(instead of CMR) and math fonts combining Palatino, Symbol and the CM math fonts. You've just got to choose which one you prefer. Each defines a specific calligraphic font as well (with \mathcal). More detail are given in /Library/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/doc/latex/psnfss/psnfss2e.pdf. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue May 10 05:10:21 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:10:21 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] script fonts In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 10.05.2005 um 01:23 schrieb Hendrik Chaltin: > Anyway, if there are only three fonts, > isn't there a simple way > to use all three at the same time? Besides Times, Palatino, and Euler there are RSFS, Computer Modern -- and of course Zapf Chancery-Medium Italic, could be Latin Modern has some too. To use all fonts in one document just look into the STY or CLS files and copy their declarations ? la \DeclareFontFamily{OT1}{pzc}{} \DeclareFontShape{OT1}{pzc}{m}{it}{<-> s * [0.900] pzcmi7t}{} \DeclareMathAlphabet{\mathpzc}{OT1}{pzc}{m}{it} into your TeX file's preample. You can give each font a diffrent name, because it's NFSS2. Now you can type: \begin{document} $\mathpzc{Beaut? est si simple ...}$ \end{document} but since it's math *and* OT1 it will look a bit different ... could look ugly! -- Greetings Pete Windows, c'est un peu comme le beaujolais nouveau: a chaque nouvelle cuv?e on sait que ce sera d?gueulasse, mais on en prend quand m?me, par masochisme. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Tue May 10 05:37:47 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:37:47 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] different defaults for size? In-Reply-To: <1096be02cbcd5a967862b0ffa418e87a@univ.u-3mrs.fr> References: <1096be02cbcd5a967862b0ffa418e87a@univ.u-3mrs.fr> Message-ID: <7FE7C40A-3CEE-42DF-9307-82C9A47A1728@xs4all.nl> On May 10, 2005, at 12:55 AM, Hendrik Chaltin wrote: > I was trying to make up my mind > about what version of \mathcal to use > \usepackage{mathptmx} or \usepackage{mathpazo} > when I suddenly realized > that the packages seem to induce > slightly different defaults for \mathrm and \textrm > (perhaps others too, I didn't check). > It is visible both on the screen > and on the outprint. > I do not mind what size exactly the default is, > but I don't want the aspect of entire documents to change > just because I decide to change the \mathcal font. > > How can I fix the size default? The size of a font is ill-defined, so changing the typeface will completely rearrange a document. Please try different typefaces to see which one you like best, as the readability can vary greatly between typefaces [*]. Note that both mathptmx and mathpazo not only change the math fonts, but also the text font. Or rather: they are among the few packages that change the math font as well as changing the main text font. To visualise this (easily) open TextEdit, type a one-liner ("Help I'm a rock"), and paste it in a few times (each one on a new line, in Rich Text Mode (Format menu). You may want to make the size a bit bigger (I used 18pt). The default seems to be Times New Roman (the Microsoft rip-off of Times). Bring up the fonts panel (cmd-T). Select each line in turn, and change the font. You'll notice that both the line height and the line-length change when the typeface changes. This is no real surprise for things like bold and ultra-thin (Helvetica Neue), but the difference can be rather large, even in such a short sentence. [*] Possible options include: Utopia + Fourier, Times (mathptmx), Palatino (mathpazo), Lucida (commercial, pretty hard to get these days). All of these synchronise the mathematical fonts with the text fonts (which is usually what you want, computer modern looks very thin compared to pretty much any other typeface. Times will probably fit most text on a page. If you just want to change the text font, there are more (free) options: Garamond, Charter, ... look on CTAN. One of the Euler packages (eulervm) just changes the math fonts, and goes remarkably well with a variety of text fonts (much better than CM in most cases). Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jerome.laurens at u-bourgogne.fr Tue May 10 06:27:32 2005 From: jerome.laurens at u-bourgogne.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me_Laurens?=) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:27:32 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] another bad change in tiger preview... In-Reply-To: <9238B00E-33C0-492B-B2D0-B4405A39B31D@ursinus.edu> References: <2CE05459-8C4A-4455-BB1B-2DA61D7462B7@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> <660DDA6D-0132-4713-9072-FC254F92FC0F@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> <5FA23B73-3805-4148-B83A-1B8D82B84FE7@ursinus.edu> <9238B00E-33C0-492B-B2D0-B4405A39B31D@ursinus.edu> Message-ID: <97911a9b472464508c1859af1d97a191@u-bourgogne.fr> Le 9 mai 05, ? 21:44, Leah Berman a ?crit : > > On May 9, 2005, at 2:41 PM, Leah Berman wrote: > >> I was also trying to use TeXShop to clip part of a file today, and I >> couldn't figure out how to do it. > > In case there are others as clueless as I: if you click on the little > double-arrows (>>) at the right side of the preview window, there are > lots of lovely options, including the clipping one I was looking for. What you call the >> is certainly the way the toolbar are made available when the window is to narrow. People with a different window size won't see that widget, moreover, people with a different toolbar setting will not see what you are talking about. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue May 10 07:00:02 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:00:02 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: OS X TeX] TeX and Illustrator Fonts -- CMR Works and Lucida doesn't In-Reply-To: References: <27213.82496@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: Am 10.05.2005 um 06:03 schrieb Gordon Sick: > > I've got X11 installed, but it doesn't contain pdffonts or pdfinfo. X11 is not enough, it's just the basis for more programmes (X or X11 clients). The xpdf programme package contains the command line tool mentioned. > The document PDF Producer is listed as Apple pstopdf of AFPL > Ghostscript 8.51, Now that you mention Ghostscript as one PDF distiller: there is a file Fontmap.GS that needs in case the PS file does *not* contain all the fonts entries to tell the gs interpreter which file contains the PostScript font /X ? la: % Bigelow & Holmes' Lucida fonts from Java added by Pete: /LucidaBright (hlhr8a.pfb) ; /LucidaBright-Demi (hlhd8a.pfb) ; /LucidaBright-DemiItalic (hlhdi8a.pfb) ; /LucidaBright-Italic (hlhri8a.pfb) ; /LucidaSans (hlsr8a.pfb) ; /LucidaSans-Demi (hlsd8a.pfb) ; /LucidaSans-DemiOblique (hlsdo8a.pfb) ; /LucidaSans-Oblique (hlsro8a.pfb) ; /LucidaSans-Typewriter (hlsrt8a.pfb) ; /LucidaSans-TypewriterBold (hlsbt8a.pfb) ; /LucidaSans-TypewriterBoldOblique (hlsbot8a.pfa) ; /LucidaSans-TypewriterOblique (hlsrot8a.pfb) ; and these fonts have to be accessible from the interpreters search path, so an UNIX symlink would be needed in the Ghostscript fonts directory. But in you case the lb*.pfb font files are all included in the PDF output. > > I found that Illustrator (10 and CS) on one of my computers complained > about not having Lucida Math and Lucida Bright, but the other only > complained about Lucida Bright. Searching the first machine for > occurences of LucidaBright led me to an old system folder that had a > Java Virtual Machine in it that contained LucidaBright as a ttf font. > The System and Library for that machine (running Panther) didn't have > it -- it was only in the old Java Installation. When I copied the > Lucida Bright fonts to my home ~/Library/Fonts on my other machine > (running Tiger), Illustrator no longer complained about LucidaBright > and actually made it editable (that is, I can add or delete text). It's some kind of workaround, and it can fool you, since the Y&Y PostScript fonts can be slightly different than the Java TrueType ones! > > Here are the error messages I get from Illustrator: > Adobe Illustrator CS error message: > The font LucidaNewMath-AltItalic is missing > Affected text will be displayed using a substitute font. > The font LucidaNewMath-Symbol is missing. Affected text will be > displayed using a substitute font. > Below this is the warning message: > The document "Test2.ps" uses fonts or characters which are not > available or > are in a different format than originally specified. These messages could mean that AI looks for screen fonts as in the Classic days ... and I think I've seen these Classic screen fonts a few times on the net! Here for example here http://www.tug.org/tex-archive/systems/mac/textures/fonts/ and there http://www.bluesky.com/help/technews.html. Or on a CTAN /TeX Live CD or DVD. One remark on pdftex's log: only one ENCoding file is put into the output: /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/enc/dvips/psnfssx/ texnansi.enc, the one for text use. Could be that AI has some AI built in not accepting that a PS font is used as-is, without specific encoding, i.e. the found "(Custom encoding)." Lars Hellstr?m from the fontinst team once mentioned that this can be a hazard and since my work on using TrueType fonts in TeX as converted PS fonts leads into the same corner of 'unencoded' PostScript fonts, we might have located the culprit. (And I too see some issues with that sometimes.) On math characters to input: have you discovered the Character Palette? It's in a menu symbolized with your country's or keyboard layout's national flag. If you don't have this menu yet, go (in Panther) into System Preferences -> "national/local" preferences (the UN flag) -> keyboard menu and check what you feel is needful -- and check particularly keyboard menu down in the margin! Choosing in Character Palette Unicode blocks you can manoeuvre to the math or Greek block and check out the glyphs you want to enter. -- Mit friedvollen Gr??en Pete Windows, c'est un peu comme le beaujolais nouveau: a chaque nouvelle cuv?e on sait que ce sera d?gueulasse, mais on en prend quand m?me, par masochisme. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From stephen.anderson at yale.edu Tue May 10 08:11:45 2005 From: stephen.anderson at yale.edu (Stephen Anderson) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:11:45 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: <40813.97793@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <40813.97793@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <851AA820-DAB8-44FB-A1A1-6BDDFB58DFF5@yale.edu> I've just installed Tiger, and I'm still getting up to speed. I installed the most recent yaced version of emacs, which includes an mdimporter for LaTeX files. For some reason, the package installs the importer module inside the Emacs.app package. I copied it from there to /Library/Spotlight with the others, but running mdimport -f on my Documents directory does not seem to get any of the LaTeX files there indexed for Spotlight, since none of them show up in searches. In contrast, the BibTeX file importer module mentioned a little while ago on this list seems to work, since my bibfiles do get indexed. What do I need to do to get my *.tex files indexed for Spotlight? -- Steve Anderson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mark at bbprojects.net Tue May 10 08:44:21 2005 From: mark at bbprojects.net (Mark Smith) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:44:21 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: <851AA820-DAB8-44FB-A1A1-6BDDFB58DFF5@yale.edu> References: <40813.97793@email.esm.psu.edu> <851AA820-DAB8-44FB-A1A1-6BDDFB58DFF5@yale.edu> Message-ID: <9960EE89-75C4-4B4B-8D6E-713705C0F24A@bbprojects.net> On May 10, 2005, at 14:11, Stephen Anderson wrote: > For some reason, the package installs the importer module inside > the Emacs.app package. I copied it from there to /Library/ > Spotlight with the others, but running mdimport -f on my Documents > directory does not seem to get any of the LaTeX files there indexed > for Spotlight, since none of them show up in searches. You probably shouldn't have done that. Spotlight plugins can live inside of app bundles at: myApp/Contents/Library/Spotlight/myApp.mdimporter I don't use emacs so can't comment on whether they have done it right (no reason to suppose they haven't), but with the plugin in this location, it should work, provided that it conforms and that they have added the necessary stuff to the application's info.plist. If they have built things correctly, their plugin will *only* work in this location and having two or more instances of the same plugin in two or more of the standard locations [1] will conflict. It may not run straight away. I'd put it back (or delete the copy in / Library/ ) and then try this: mdimport -r /Path/to/the/plugin/in/the/app/bundle mark. [1] /System/Library/Spotlight/ /Library/Spotlight/ ~/Library/ Spotlight/ my.app/Contents/Library/Spotlight/ --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Tue May 10 09:59:52 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 06:59:52 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: <851AA820-DAB8-44FB-A1A1-6BDDFB58DFF5@yale.edu> References: <40813.97793@email.esm.psu.edu> <851AA820-DAB8-44FB-A1A1-6BDDFB58DFF5@yale.edu> Message-ID: On May 10, 2005, at 05:11, Stephen Anderson wrote: > I've just installed Tiger, and I'm still getting up to speed. > > I installed the most recent yaced version of emacs, which includes > an mdimporter for LaTeX files. For some reason, the package > installs the importer module inside the Emacs.app package. I > copied it from there to /Library/Spotlight with the others, but > running mdimport -f on my Documents directory does not seem to get > any of the LaTeX files there indexed for Spotlight, since none of > them show up in searches. In contrast, the BibTeX file importer > module mentioned a little while ago on this list seems to work, > since my bibfiles do get indexed. > > What do I need to do to get my *.tex files indexed for Spotlight? Try deleting the LaTeX mdimporter that you copied to /Library/ Spotlight; I think there are problems if you have multiple importers for the same file type, as the one that's in the Emacs bundle is in a valid location. -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 10 11:21:11 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:21:11 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: <9960EE89-75C4-4B4B-8D6E-713705C0F24A@bbprojects.net> References: <40813.97793@email.esm.psu.edu> <851AA820-DAB8-44FB-A1A1-6BDDFB58DFF5@yale.edu> <9960EE89-75C4-4B4B-8D6E-713705C0F24A@bbprojects.net> Message-ID: Yesterday I downloaded LaTeX MDImporter from and installed it inside /Library/SpotLight/. The file ReadMe.rtf in the .pkg bundle says LaTeX.mdimporter can be put either there, or in ~/Library/Spotlight, or inside an / Applications/Emacs.app bundle. During the install, the user can select the location. Then I ran "mdimport -f /usr/local/teTeX". The motivation was not to have .tex Emacs files added to the SpotLight database (I don't use Emacs other than for testing purposes), but to have all .tex .cls .sty etc. files inside the gwteX directories added to the database. Alas, even after doing this, searching for \eqalign, defined in plain.tex, returns only the files plain.tex from my Textures and OzTeX setups, not the one in gwTeW. I'm a bit reluctant to edit such low-level file as /.Spotlight-V100/ _rules.plist (as mentioned by Maarten Sneep in another message from this thread) if that can be avoided. From another list, it seems the problem is actually different, namely that the .tex files inside gwTeX are not associated with any importer (even after installing LaTeX.mdimporter): > $ mdimport -d1 -f /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/plain/base/ > plain.tex > 2005-05-10 16:50:15.340 mdimport[494] Import '/usr/local/teTeX/ > share/texmf.tetex/tex/plain/base/plain.tex' type > 'dyn.ah62d4rv4ge81k3p2' no mdimporter If the file type (in Classic Mac OS Creator/Type resource sense) is changed to "TEXT", the .tex file is identified as Rich Text, and an importer is found: > $ cp /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/plain/base/plain.tex ~/ > Desktop/ > > $ cd ~/Desktop > > $ /Developer/Tools/SetFile -t "TEXT" plain.tex > > $ mdimport -d1 plain.tex > 2005-05-05 16:40:17.105 mdimport[731] Import '/Users/brunovoisin/ > Desktop/plain.tex' type 'com.apple.traditional-mac-plain-text' > using 'file://localhost/System/Library/Spotlight/RichText.mdimporter/' But even better, as pointed by Will Robertson on another list, would probably be to assign proper UTIs (the Tiger resurrection/improvement of Creator/Type resources ) to TeX files. This will happen: people are brainstorming on it at the TUG level. Afterwards it should be easier to write Spotlight importers, I imagine. Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From hendrik.chaltin at univ.u-3mrs.fr Tue May 10 12:17:00 2005 From: hendrik.chaltin at univ.u-3mrs.fr (Hendrik Chaltin) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:17:00 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] post strikes again? Message-ID: According to my TNT "shipment status" my "Tiger" arrived at Marignane airport (near Marseille, France) on 29 April. It never arrived at my home. As I live to the south of the border that separates France from a "d?partement" (county) called "Bouches-du-Rh?ne" (in which lie Marseille and the said airport), people who work for companies providing such luxury services as post and public transport often are unexpectedly on strike, but I don't know if that is involved now. Did anyone experience something similar? Can one ask Apple for a second and certified shipment? Please don't advise me to complain with the local post office. I am sure they will be very happy to file my complaint. HC --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Tue May 10 13:23:13 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam Maxwell) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:23:13 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: References: <40813.97793@email.esm.psu.edu> <851AA820-DAB8-44FB-A1A1-6BDDFB58DFF5@yale.edu> <9960EE89-75C4-4B4B-8D6E-713705C0F24A@bbprojects.net> Message-ID: <13007312.1115745793199.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> On Tuesday, May 10, 2005, at 08:43AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: >I'm a bit reluctant to edit such low-level file as /.Spotlight-V100/ >_rules.plist (as mentioned by Maarten Sneep in another message from >this thread) if that can be avoided. You don't have to do this. > > From another list, it seems the problem is actually different, >namely that the .tex files inside gwTeX are not associated with any >importer (even after installing LaTeX.mdimporter): > >> $ mdimport -d1 -f /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/plain/base/ >> plain.tex >> 2005-05-10 16:50:15.340 mdimport[494] Import '/usr/local/teTeX/ >> share/texmf.tetex/tex/plain/base/plain.tex' type >> 'dyn.ah62d4rv4ge81k3p2' no mdimporter If you have the Emacs app with an importer in its bundle, that will conflict with the one you installed manually, due to a bug in Spotlight itself. >But even better, as pointed by Will Robertson on another list, would >probably be to assign proper UTIs (the Tiger resurrection/improvement >of Creator/Type resources macosx-10.4.ars/11>) to TeX files. This will happen: people are >brainstorming on it at the TUG level. What people are brainstorming on it? Having written a couple of these, I'm interested in the discussion. -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mark at bbprojects.net Tue May 10 14:35:59 2005 From: mark at bbprojects.net (Mark Smith) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 20:35:59 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: <13007312.1115745793199.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> References: <40813.97793@email.esm.psu.edu> <851AA820-DAB8-44FB-A1A1-6BDDFB58DFF5@yale.edu> <9960EE89-75C4-4B4B-8D6E-713705C0F24A@bbprojects.net> <13007312.1115745793199.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 10, 2005, at 19:23, Adam Maxwell wrote: > If you have the Emacs app with an importer in its bundle, that will > conflict with the one you installed manually, due to a bug in > Spotlight itself. Is this confirmed as a bug Adam ? IOW, will we not need to worry about multiple instances in the future ? mark. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Tue May 10 14:49:54 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam Maxwell) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:49:54 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Spotlight importers In-Reply-To: References: <40813.97793@email.esm.psu.edu> <851AA820-DAB8-44FB-A1A1-6BDDFB58DFF5@yale.edu> <9960EE89-75C4-4B4B-8D6E-713705C0F24A@bbprojects.net> <13007312.1115745793199.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> Message-ID: <3465382.1115750994260.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> On Tuesday, May 10, 2005, at 11:39AM, Mark Smith wrote: > >On May 10, 2005, at 19:23, Adam Maxwell wrote: > >> If you have the Emacs app with an importer in its bundle, that will >> conflict with the one you installed manually, due to a bug in >> Spotlight itself. > >Is this confirmed as a bug Adam ? > >IOW, will we not need to worry about multiple instances in the future ? Yes to both, FSVO future. See . -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From borrel at uchicago.edu Tue May 10 18:54:38 2005 From: borrel at uchicago.edu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?B=F8rre_Ludvigsen?=) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:54:38 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] A working version of emacs (fwd) Message-ID: Would someone kindly point me to a working version of Emacs Cocoa, Aqua or X11 - whatever - that is utf-8 aware? I work with mixed chcaractersets like ascii, european and arabic both in LaTeX and html and need something that works. - Barre ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barre Ludvigsen - http://www.hiof.no/~borrel/ - +47 908 24 608 N42.10135 W087.35241 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue May 10 19:35:26 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 01:35:26 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] A working version of emacs (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 11.05.2005 um 00:54 schrieb B?rre Ludvigsen: > Would someone kindly point me to a working version of Emacs Cocoa, Aqua > or X11 - whatever - that is utf-8 aware? I work with mixed > chcaractersets like ascii, > european and arabic both in LaTeX and html and need something that > works. > For this you only have two options: GNU Emacs 22.0.50 from CVS, or Unicode Emacs 23.0.0. The first one has the advantage that you could make a working Carbon version too, but: with many, many font problems. You have to get the code from a CVS repository, the first time like setenv CVS_RSH ssh cvs -z3 -d:ext:anoncvs at savannah.gnu.org:/cvsroot/emacs co emacs then you can update with setenv CVS_RSH ssh cvs -z3 -d:ext:anoncvs at savannah.gnu.org:/cvsroot/emacs update emacs At least the first time you have to cd into the emacs directory and invoke configure, for example as: ./configure --without-carbon --with-x --without-pop --with-xpm --with-jpeg --with-tiff --with-png --with-gif --with-gtk --with-x-toolkit=gtk or ./configure --without-carbon --with-x --without-pop --with-xpm --with-jpeg --with-tiff --with-png --with-gif --with-x-toolkit=lucid The first time and whenever you update an elisp file you have then to invoke: make bootstrap. If only C code or other files are changed a make bootfast is OK. GNU Emacs 22.0.50 works quite fine with Unicode. There are some esoteric errors. For example an ? is one encoding a different character than in another, or put into other words: when you i-search in buffer with one encoding for your first name you'll succeed. When you type in another buffer with another encoding C-s C-s you'll fail! Unicode Emacs is said to be really Unicode based, so ? should be ? in every encoding it is in. I haven't checked yet. To get it you need extra software: tla. You can get with Fink: i arch-tla 1.3-1 Distributed revision control(archive) system i tla-tools 0.2004.p90-1 Useful tools for working with GNU Arch i xtla 0.9-1 Emacs front-end for arch-tla To retrieve the code, first step is: tla register-archive http://push.sourcecontrol.net/archives/miles at gnu.org--gnu-2005 then you can fetch the code: tla get miles at gnu.org--gnu-2005/emacs--unicode--0 Updates you can fetch from the emacs--unicode-- directory like: tla update Nice, eh? Again you need to configure and to 'make bootstrap'. Not so nice is the compile time. GNU Emacs 22.0.50 will take more than half hour, 23.0.0 will go towards 1h. The Carbon versions are produced form the mac directories in the emacs or emacs--unicode-- directories with ./make-package. To create an updated package first remove the EmacsInstaller.dmg (you can rename too) and 'make clean' in the emacs or emacs--unicode-- directories. Otherwise the make-package script will surely fail. Carbon Unicode Emacs does not launch on my Mac because it can't find any fonts ... For X11 I can send you my site-fontsets-X11.el file. For X11 you should set in your shell's environment: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 or whatever you prefer, *with* UTF-8. Then you don't need to set up that many things: ;LC_CTYPE; (set-language-environment 'UTF-8) ;LC_CTYPE (set-default-coding-systems 'utf-8) ;LC_CTYPE (setq file-name-coding-system 'utf-8) ;LC_CTYPE (setq default-buffer-file-coding-system 'utf-8) ;LC_CTYPE (setq coding-system-for-write 'utf-8) ;LC_CTYPE; (set-keyboard-coding-system 'utf-8) ;LC_CTYPE (set-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8) ;LC_CTYPE;; (set-clipboard-coding-system 'utf-8) ;LC_CTYPE;; (set-selection-coding-system 'utf-8) ;LC_CTYPE; (set-language-environment 'German) ;LC_CTYPE; (prefer-coding-system 'iso-8859-15); for LaTeX! ;LC_CTYPE; (setq x-select-request-type '(UTF8_STRING COMPOUND_TEXT TEXT STRING)) ; (modify-coding-system-alist 'process 'UTF-8 'UTF-8) (modify-coding-system-alist 'process "\\*shell\\*\\'" 'utf-8-unix) I'm not sure whether the last line is OK ... and working! This is important too: set an alias in your shell for ls! This alias should contain -w to display in shell the UTF-8 glyphs of usual file names. Setting the dired-listing-switches to some value with -w does not lead to a correct display of UTF-8 names in dired buffers! You know that you can launch Apple's quartz-wm as a proxy for your preferred Window Manager? It's quartz-wm --only-proxy & then you can exchange regions of text between GNU Emacs and Mac apps. -- Greetings Pete "I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -- Hunter S. Thompson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From joseph.slater at wright.edu Tue May 10 19:39:52 2005 From: joseph.slater at wright.edu (Joseph C. Slater) Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 19:39:52 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] A working version of emacs (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 10, 2005, at 6:54 PM, B?rre Ludvigsen wrote: > > Would someone kindly point me to a working version of Emacs Cocoa, > Aqua > or X11 - whatever - that is utf-8 aware? I work with mixed > chcaractersets like ascii, > european and arabic both in LaTeX and html and need something that > works. > None of the versions on mac-tex work? Joe --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jerome.laurens at u-bourgogne.fr Wed May 11 02:15:08 2005 From: jerome.laurens at u-bourgogne.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me_Laurens?=) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:15:08 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] post strikes again? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 10 mai 05, ? 18:17, Hendrik Chaltin a ?crit : > According to my TNT "shipment status" > my "Tiger" arrived at Marignane airport (near Marseille, France) > on 29 April. > It never arrived at my home. > > As I live to the south of the border > that separates France > [...] > Can one ask Apple for a second and certified shipment? > > Please don't advise me to complain with the local post office. > I am sure they will be very happy to file my complaint. > I am not sure this is the right place to send that post. I would suggest you to use one of the french mac os related newsgroups. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Wed May 11 04:27:09 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:27:09 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] A working version of emacs (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 11.05.2005 um 01:39 schrieb Joseph C. Slater: > None of the versions on mac-tex work? > Yes, they all fail to display characters outside the US-ASCII and Mac Roman range. I can send you screenshots or test files or both ... (I think it would be nice to add the UTF-7, -8, -16-xy codes for the glyphs to them too, I'm only missing a tool or programmatic way to create them, maybe recode can do that; these codes can be helpful when debugging such display errors with C-u C-x =) -- Mit friedvollen Gr??en Pete A lot of us are working harder than we want, at things we don't like to do. Why? ...In order to afford the sort of existence we don't care to live. -- Bradford Angier --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From hendrik.chaltin at univ.u-3mrs.fr Wed May 11 06:48:49 2005 From: hendrik.chaltin at univ.u-3mrs.fr (Hendrik Chaltin) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:48:49 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] post strikes again? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98a05c25eb8ea5b321f962fb00aae4d6@univ.u-3mrs.fr> On 11 May 2005, at 08:15, J?r?me Laurens wrote: > I am not sure this is the right place to send that post. I am not sure you are the right person to decide that kind of matters. > I would suggest you to use one of the french mac os related newsgroups. I don't need anyone to "suggest" things I should do. HC --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From joseph.slater at wright.edu Wed May 11 07:49:01 2005 From: joseph.slater at wright.edu (Joseph C. Slater) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:49:01 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] A working version of emacs (fwd) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <652403BA-AFB8-4864-9D7D-B5FAC46FB8EF@wright.edu> On May 11, 2005, at 4:27 AM, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 11.05.2005 um 01:39 schrieb Joseph C. Slater: > > >> None of the versions on mac-tex work? >> >> > > Yes, they all fail to display characters outside the US-ASCII and > Mac Roman range. I can send you screenshots or test files or > both ... (I think it would be nice to add the UTF-7, -8, -16-xy > codes for the glyphs to them too, I'm only missing a tool or > programmatic way to create them, maybe recode can do that; these > codes can be helpful when debugging such display errors with C-u C- > x =) > Too bad we can't convince the authors of the distributions to include this capability. This is an issue about which I (clearly) know nothing. Have you asked them in the past? Joe --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Wed May 11 08:45:27 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:45:27 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] A working version of emacs (fwd) In-Reply-To: <652403BA-AFB8-4864-9D7D-B5FAC46FB8EF@wright.edu> References: <652403BA-AFB8-4864-9D7D-B5FAC46FB8EF@wright.edu> Message-ID: <73090c10499ddbfda8eaab2b8e154b66@Web.DE> Am 11.05.2005 um 13:49 schrieb Joseph C. Slater: > Too bad we can't convince the authors of the distributions to include > this capability. This is an issue about which I (clearly) know > nothing. Have you asked them in the past? No, Joe, because they can't do anything. I complained in bug reports a few times, but not that much progress. The problem is in Carbon Emacs' past, the way it was prepared for Mac OS 9. The font selection is based on mimicking an X11 mechanism instead of using proper ATSUI or such things, as Emacs-on-Aqua uses. To change this you'd need to re-write a lot of C and Elisp code. This then *has* to be accepted by Richard Stallman to become integrated into Emacs' core. Could be YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu can do something. Last December he introduced a new Elisp function in CVS, create-fontset-from-mac-roman-font, which makes the creation of fontsets easier. (Some elderly Carbon Emacsen as ECE don't understand it.) I think Emacs is clever enough to understand that a particular font needs to be selected to display a particular glyph. The problem only is that it gets fonts and font encodings presented that are incorrect, so no real complete and correct vector of glyphs can be built. The reason for this malfunction probably, that Andrew Choi's routines only read the pretty restricted Mac Roman (+ Mac Chinese, Mac Japanese, Mac Korean) map of a font (since Unicode's not that Macish, just remember the many language kits patches), while TrueType fonts usually have an extremely rich MS-Unicode map of a few thousand glyphs, some have an extra 'pure' Unicode map (to be more exact: the CMAP property of a TT font can have several 'sub-fonts' built from a big reservoir in it in a specific encoding, proper specs are the platformName/platformID {Unicode/0 | Macintosh/1 | Microsoft/3}, scriptName/scriptID {Roman/0 | Unicode/1 | Unicode/3 | SurroGATES/10}, no sorrow Gates!, encodingID and the format, in which this is written into the font). The X11 interface can make use of this wealth, the Cocoa interface too. -- Greetings Pete When you meet a master swordsman, show him your sword. When you meet a man who is not a poet, do not show him your poem. -- Rinzai, ninth century Zen master --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amanfroi at mac.com Wed May 11 08:58:01 2005 From: amanfroi at mac.com (Aldo Manfroi) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:58:01 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] post strikes again? In-Reply-To: <98a05c25eb8ea5b321f962fb00aae4d6@univ.u-3mrs.fr> References: <98a05c25eb8ea5b321f962fb00aae4d6@univ.u-3mrs.fr> Message-ID: <9C7C124D-6E33-46C1-AEAE-D7F6981BAB9E@mac.com> On May 11, 2005, at 5:48, Hendrik Chaltin wrote: > On 11 May 2005, at 08:15, J?r?me Laurens wrote: > >> I am not sure this is the right place to send that post. >> > I am not sure you are the right person to decide that kind of matters. I think Jerome was trying to be helpful. I am not sure either that there are many people that can help you here. > >> I would suggest you to use one of the french mac os related >> newsgroups. >> > I don't need anyone to "suggest" things I should do. Well if you ask a question, you may get an answer in the form of a suggestion (and that particular suggestion seems very helpful too) AJM --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jhgowen at mac.com Wed May 11 09:05:27 2005 From: jhgowen at mac.com (James Owen) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:05:27 +0900 Subject: [OS X TeX] [ANN] BibDesk 0.99.3 available In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0B7F5094-E849-49CF-8F72-301EBE725484@mac.com> I would like to be able to sort all the citations in a bib file, (by date et al.) and then resave the file, and have the bib text file reflect the sorting that has just been done. On a related note, when performing an export to html format, although the html will reflect the sort column which has been used, it does not reflect the sign of the sort. For example, if you save by date, the oldest citations will always be at the top, even if in the bibliography the sorting column has been selected to have the newest citations appear at the top. This is a general issue, the same thing happens when sorting by first author. Authors beginning with 'A' will always appear at the top of the html file. Can this be fixed? Does BibDesk interact with Spotlight in any way? James On 26 Apr 2005, at 13:15, Adam R.Maxwell wrote: > The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce the > availability of BibDesk 0.99.3 from >. We have a great new feature for importing references from the > Internet or other text sources, plus numerous other features, and > we've even fixed a couple of bugs since 0.99.2 was released two > weeks ago. > > Please read the online help for information about the new features; > it now has an index, which should make it more usable for browsing. > > Hopefully we're running out of bugs to fix, but if you find any > more, please post them to our bug tracker at sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=497423&group_id=61487&func=browse>. > We'd like to get version 1.0 out Real Soon Now, but I don't even > believe myself when I write that any more. > > For the bored among you, a complete list of changes follows, so you > can decide if this release is worth downloading. > > Changes since 0.99.2 > > IMPORTANT: > * A new version of the autocompletion plugin is available, which > fixes an issue for jurabib users in particular; use the > Autocompletion (External) preferences to reinstall the plugin. > * Preferences have been rearranged and consolidated, but the online > help screenshots do not reflect this yet! > * This version also has a new feature for adding references by > selecting blocks of text from the clipboard or the web and adding > them directly to BibDesk. You can access the new feature from the > Publication menu, but please check the online help for > documentation of this feature (note the handy Help button on the > sheet). > > New Features > ? Last-selected column for sorting when a document is closed > will be the default sort order for new/opened documents (bug #1178642) > ? Annote and Abstract may now be saved at the end of entries > (preference), which works around buffer limits in some versions of > bibtex > ? Custom cite key drawer is now editable directly, rather than > from preferences > ? Text import feature added, which allows adding text from the > clipboard or a web page directly to a reference > ? Missing files are now shown with a question mark icon in the > main pubs list > ? Can save/export as RIS > ? Encoding is now settable from Save As... dialogs > ? Fields with alphanumeric values are now sorted correctly > ? Added a "Container" column for the main pubs list that shows > the title of the work that a reference is a part of (e.g. Journal > for articles, Booktitle for inproceedings) > ? Added options to Copy and Export as minimal BibTeX, so you can > access the pubs without BibDesk's fields (Date-Created Date- > Modified, Local-Url, Url) > ? Can now edit fields list in Defaults pref pane directly > > Bugfixes > ? New crash reporter, with fields for contact info, and it > should work on Jaguar now > ? Fix exception in Character Conversion editor, improved > validation of entries and editing > ? Fixed status message updating in BibEditor > ? User's character conversion dictionary is actually loaded now, > so changes should be effective > ? %f in AutoFile is no longer interpreted as Keywords > ? Use singular noun when appropriate in the document's status > display > ? BibEditor's form/text fields no longer lose focus after saving > the file > ? The proper encoding is now used for pasting, so you don't end > up with garbled accented characters > ? Frontmatter is now passed to the LaTeX preview > ? Combo boxes are now used instead of text field + popup button > to selected BibTeX fields (various places) > ? Changes to BibItems are only observed by the document that > contains them, instead of all open documents > ? Field for default cite key in prefs actually works now > ? Jurabib works again with autocompletion input manager > ? Dragging from the cite key drawer always gives a cite key, > regardless of your prefs for dragging/copying > ? Fix bug #1183091, crash on second reordering of fields in the > types editor > ? Whitespace is no longer collapsed in Abstract and Annote for > preview pane below the pub list, so people who create lists with > returns and tabs will see them now > ? Matthew Cook's BDOrganizedLock is now used for locking in the > LaTeX preview, which should eliminate some (hopefully all) of the > thread-safety problems there > ? Changed default button, title, and warning message in the > BibEditor warning sheet for unset citekey/unfiled paper; added > "Discard" button for unedited pubs > ? Default encoding type is now selected in popups > ? Use a combo box for number of items to display in preview > (preferences) > ? Error messages from btparse are no longer truncated > ? Ring-above is now supported in TeX accents (bug #1184564) > ? Return values from the LaTeX previewer are actually checked > now, which should improve copying from it > ? Renamed RIS import service > ? RIS document encoding can now be specified for opening files > (and respects default encoding in prefs) > ? CoreFoundation is now used for the background update checking, > since [NSDictionary dictionaryWithURL:] was leaking memory > ? Fix bug #1185789, month not displayed in user's locale > ? Font for added table columns is now changed properly to the > user's default font > ? Arbitrary accented characters with \i and \j are now converted > both ways properly > ? LaTeX preview should display the currently selected item as > soon as it becomes visible, so you don't have to deselect/reselect > an item to make it work > ? It's now possible to enter &$^ in cite keys, but we warn you > that this is a bad idea > ? Use Chapter instead of Title for inbook for format specifiers % > t and %T > ? Fixed crasher that could occur when browsing the web in > BibEditor (bug #1151065) > ? Paste/Drag errors are properly removed when their document > closes (bug #944817) > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 11 09:23:55 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:23:55 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] A working version of emacs (fwd) In-Reply-To: <73090c10499ddbfda8eaab2b8e154b66@Web.DE> References: <652403BA-AFB8-4864-9D7D-B5FAC46FB8EF@wright.edu> <73090c10499ddbfda8eaab2b8e154b66@Web.DE> Message-ID: <8AB76FCE-0DEA-444C-B0CF-B23E6BFF7C1B@mac.com> Le 11 mai 05 ? 14:45, Peter Dyballa a ?crit : > Am 11.05.2005 um 13:49 schrieb Joseph C. Slater: > >> Too bad we can't convince the authors of the distributions to >> include this capability. This is an issue about which I (clearly) >> know nothing. Have you asked them in the past? > > No, Joe, because they can't do anything. I complained in bug > reports a few times, but not that much progress. The problem is in > Carbon Emacs' past, the way it was prepared for Mac OS 9. The font > selection is based on mimicking an X11 mechanism instead of using > proper ATSUI or such things, as Emacs-on-Aqua uses. > > To change this you'd need to re-write a lot of C and Elisp code. > This then *has* to be accepted by Richard Stallman to become > integrated into Emacs' core. Could be YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu can do > something. Last December he introduced a new Elisp function in CVS, > create-fontset-from-mac-roman-font, which makes the creation of > fontsets easier. (Some elderly Carbon Emacsen as ECE don't > understand it.) Not sure whether the following helps, but just in case: in the list of unofficial patches inside Seiji Zenitani's Carbon Emacs , there's one called mac-utf. And there's mention of utf-8 in the annoucement , for example. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Wed May 11 10:23:34 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:23:34 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] [ANN] BibDesk 0.99.3 available In-Reply-To: <0B7F5094-E849-49CF-8F72-301EBE725484@mac.com> References: <0B7F5094-E849-49CF-8F72-301EBE725484@mac.com> Message-ID: <5DA44892-FC02-4E80-94FE-46358BD5A184@mac.com> On May 11, 2005, at 06:05, James Owen wrote: > I would like to be able to sort all the citations in a bib file, > (by date et al.) and then resave the file, and have the bib text > file reflect the sorting that has just been done. BibDesk doesn't support this at present, I'm afraid, so you'll need to use BibTool. Please file an enhancement request. > On a related note, when performing an export to html format, > although the html will reflect the sort column which has been used, > it does not reflect the sign of the sort. For example, if you save > by date, the oldest citations will always be at the top, even if in > the bibliography the sorting column has been selected to have the > newest citations appear at the top. > This is a general issue, the same thing happens when sorting by > first author. Authors beginning with 'A' will always appear at the > top of the html file. Please file a bug report. > > Can this be fixed? > Does BibDesk interact with Spotlight in any way? We're working on it. I've previously posted here about the mdimporter plugin. -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 11 10:28:02 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:28:02 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] post strikes again? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E098EA5-7B87-4F8C-93E3-FF34DD2EF19C@mac.com> Le 10 mai 05 ? 18:17, Hendrik Chaltin a ?crit : > According to my TNT "shipment status" > my "Tiger" arrived at Marignane airport (near Marseille, France) > on 29 April. > It never arrived at my home. > > [...] > > Did anyone experience something similar? No. Mine was delivered on April 29. > Can one ask Apple for a second and certified shipment? Not sure. When the parcel is delivered a delivery notice is included, you're asked to sign something, and I imagine some indication is then sent back to Apple or their contractor, that delivery has taken place. Hence it should be easy for Apple to check the status of your parcel. > Please don't advise me to complain with the local post office. > I am sure they will be very happy to file my complaint. You can also have a look there , there's a form for reporting back trouble. Or get refunds. It says: "If you're still having trouble using the Apple Store, let us know. We respond to requests in the order they are received, and will contact you within 24 hours." HTH, Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Roberto.Avanzi at ruhr-uni-bochum.de Wed May 11 10:45:24 2005 From: Roberto.Avanzi at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Roberto Avanzi) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:45:24 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXshop, non european fonts and XeTeX Message-ID: Dear All I am using TeXShop 1.39 under OS X 10.3.9 and with the latest gwTeX packages. I just installed XeTeX 0.94, solved the ``usual'' problem of the XeLaTeX format missing, and tried to open a few examples. I set the default encoding in the TeXShop editor to be UTF-8, then I opened a few of the sample files. However, I do not seem able to view the files correctly, I always see strange characters in lieu of the arabic, chinese, hindi, etc, fonts http://harmoniae.com/doge/arabic_tex.png Of course they compile correctly and I see arabic text in the pdf output. what should I do in order to view (and edit) the international characters with the TeXshop editor? Roberto -- /_/ Dr. Roberto Avanzi, Junior Professor _/ Fakult?t f?r Mathematik - Ruhr University Bochum / "Choosing Windows is a case of Stockholm Syndrome" --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From hendrik.chaltin at univ.u-3mrs.fr Wed May 11 10:58:48 2005 From: hendrik.chaltin at univ.u-3mrs.fr (Hendrik Chaltin) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 16:58:48 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] post strikes again? In-Reply-To: <5E098EA5-7B87-4F8C-93E3-FF34DD2EF19C@mac.com> References: <5E098EA5-7B87-4F8C-93E3-FF34DD2EF19C@mac.com> Message-ID: <57b1415fceba7f2aeb4d6250dcc92e9d@univ.u-3mrs.fr> My apologies to the French post company. They were not involved. Instead, it was the local habit for people who are in charge of deliveries (such as TNT) to stop looking for an otherwise well-indicated address if they have to look for it for more than 30 sec. (I live in a small suburb.) (They then report to their boss that the address does not exist.) What really makes me angry is that TNT Marignane did not try to phone or e-mail me. Anyway, on the phone, they promised delivery tomorrow. On 11 May 2005, at 16:28, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 10 mai 05 ? 18:17, Hendrik Chaltin a ?crit : > >> According to my TNT "shipment status" >> my "Tiger" arrived at Marignane airport (near Marseille, France) >> on 29 April. >> It never arrived at my home. >> >> [...] >> >> Did anyone experience something similar? > > No. Mine was delivered on April 29. > >> Can one ask Apple for a second and certified shipment? > > Not sure. When the parcel is delivered a delivery notice is included, > you're asked to sign something, and I imagine some indication is then > sent back to Apple or their contractor, that delivery has taken place. > Hence it should be easy for Apple to check the status of your parcel. > >> Please don't advise me to complain with the local post office. >> I am sure they will be very happy to file my complaint. > > You can also have a look there > , there's a form for > reporting back trouble. Or get refunds. It says: "If you're still > having trouble using the Apple Store, let us know. We respond to > requests in the order they are received, and will contact you within > 24 hours." > > HTH, > > Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From markoilcan at yahoo.com Wed May 11 11:03:44 2005 From: markoilcan at yahoo.com (mark oilcan) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 08:03:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] A working version of emacs (fwd) In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050511150344.50507.qmail@web53104.mail.yahoo.com> --- B?rre Ludvigsen wrote: > > Would someone kindly point me to a working version of Emacs Cocoa, > Aqua > or X11 - whatever - that is utf-8 aware? I work with mixed > chcaractersets like ascii, > european and arabic both in LaTeX and html and need something that > works. > I'm not one who needs much internationalization support, but xemacs (MULE version) may be helpful. Internationalization including unicode and utf-8 support is discussed here: http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/21.5/html/xemacs-faq_2.html#SEC65 X11 versions of xemacs are most easily installed via fink or darwinports, but there's also a beta carbon version available here: http://members.shaw.ca/akochoi-xemacs/index.html The carbon version is very nice, although there is a resource usage bug which crops up if you leave xemacs running for extended periods (eg overnight), and there are a few things which don't quite work yet (like the very handy package installing tools). Mark A __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Wed May 11 11:04:46 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 10:04:46 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXshop, non european fonts and XeTeX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/11/05 9:45 AM, "Roberto Avanzi" wrote: > Dear All > > I am using TeXShop 1.39 under OS X 10.3.9 and with the > latest gwTeX packages. > I just installed XeTeX 0.94, solved the ``usual'' problem > of the XeLaTeX format missing, and tried to open a few > examples. I set the default encoding in the TeXShop > editor to be UTF-8, then I opened a few of the sample files. > However, I do not seem able to view the files correctly, > I always see strange characters in lieu of the arabic, > chinese, hindi, etc, fonts > > http://harmoniae.com/doge/arabic_tex.png > > Of course they compile correctly and I see arabic text > in the pdf output. > > what should I do in order to view (and edit) the international > characters with the TeXshop editor? > > > Roberto > Howdy, I may just be guessing here but what is the display font you are using? You may have to pick one that has the complete character set you need. That would be in the Preferences, on the same tab as the input encoding default. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 11 11:52:35 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 17:52:35 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXshop, non european fonts and XeTeX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0CC3114B-7ED9-4F32-BCFB-16749BB82272@mac.com> Le 11 mai 05 ? 16:45, Roberto Avanzi a ?crit : > I am using TeXShop 1.39 under OS X 10.3.9 and with the > latest gwTeX packages. > I just installed XeTeX 0.94, solved the ``usual'' problem > of the XeLaTeX format missing, and tried to open a few > examples. I set the default encoding in the TeXShop > editor to be UTF-8, then I opened a few of the sample files. > However, I do not seem able to view the files correctly, > I always see strange characters in lieu of the arabic, > chinese, hindi, etc, fonts > > http://harmoniae.com/doge/arabic_tex.png > > Of course they compile correctly and I see arabic text > in the pdf output. > > what should I do in order to view (and edit) the international > characters with the TeXshop editor? TeXShop switched to a new syntax for specifying the engine and encoding. Details are there (see "New features in 2.00 and 1.37"). You've got to (1) set in TexShop the default encoding to UTF-8, (2) open you input file -- the characters should now display correctly --, (3) change the first two lines in your input file, (4) save and close it, (5) set back the default encoding in TeXShop to its original setting, (6) reopen your input file -- it should now display correctly. HTH, Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From joseph.slater at wright.edu Wed May 11 12:07:14 2005 From: joseph.slater at wright.edu (Joseph C. Slater) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:07:14 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] A working version of emacs (fwd) In-Reply-To: <73090c10499ddbfda8eaab2b8e154b66@Web.DE> References: <652403BA-AFB8-4864-9D7D-B5FAC46FB8EF@wright.edu> <73090c10499ddbfda8eaab2b8e154b66@Web.DE> Message-ID: On May 11, 2005, at 8:45 AM, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 11.05.2005 um 13:49 schrieb Joseph C. Slater: > > >> Too bad we can't convince the authors of the distributions to >> include this capability. This is an issue about which I (clearly) >> know nothing. Have you asked them in the past? >> > > > No, Joe, because they can't do anything. I complained in bug > reports a few times, but not that much progress. The problem is in > Carbon Emacs' past, the way it was prepared for Mac OS 9. The font > selection is based on mimicking an X11 mechanism instead of using > proper ATSUI or such things, as Emacs-on-Aqua uses. > > To change this you'd need to re-write a lot of C and Elisp code. > This then *has* to be accepted by Richard Stallman to become > integrated into Emacs' core. Could be YAMAMOTO Mitsuharu can do > something. Last December he introduced a new Elisp function in CVS, > create-fontset-from-mac-roman-font, which makes the creation of > fontsets easier. (Some elderly Carbon Emacsen as ECE don't > understand it.) > > I think Emacs is clever enough to understand that a particular font > needs to be selected to display a particular glyph. The problem > only is that it gets fonts and font encodings presented that are > incorrect, so no real complete and correct vector of glyphs can be > built. The reason for this malfunction probably, that Andrew Choi's > routines only read the pretty restricted Mac Roman (+ Mac Chinese, > Mac Japanese, Mac Korean) map of a font (since Unicode's not that > Macish, just remember the many language kits patches), while > TrueType fonts usually have an extremely rich MS-Unicode map of a > few thousand glyphs, some have an extra 'pure' Unicode map (to be > more exact: the CMAP property of a TT font can have several 'sub- > fonts' built from a big reservoir in it in a specific encoding, > proper specs are the platformName/platformID {Unicode/0 | Macintosh/ > 1 | Microsoft/3}, scriptName/scriptID {Roman/0 | Unicode/1 | > Unicode/3 | SurroGATES/10}, no sorrow Gates!, encodingID and the > format, in which this is written into the font). The X11 interface > can make use of this wealth, the Cocoa interface too. > My head hurts now. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 11 12:19:36 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:19:36 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXshop, non european fonts and XeTeX In-Reply-To: <6D05A230-4AEE-411F-A6B6-C4D05418EB50@mac.com> References: <0CC3114B-7ED9-4F32-BCFB-16749BB82272@mac.com> <6D05A230-4AEE-411F-A6B6-C4D05418EB50@mac.com> Message-ID: <9AC24544-19DB-4EC3-8048-8494A27EDBD4@mac.com> Le 11 mai 05 ? 18:10, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > Le 11 mai 05 ? 17:52, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > >> TeXShop switched to a new syntax for specifying the engine and >> encoding. Details are there > changes.html> (see "New features in 2.00 and 1.37"). You've got to >> (1) set in TexShop the default encoding to UTF-8, (2) open you >> input file -- the characters should now display correctly --, (3) >> change the first two lines in your input file, (4) save and close >> it, (5) set back the default encoding in TeXShop to its original >> setting, (6) reopen your input file -- it should now display >> correctly. > > That's all wrong, and the problem must lie elsewhere. Maybe you > don't have the font "Geeza Pro"? Sorry for the blunder. More blunder: that was actually correct. I had forgotten I had set earlier, in Terminal: defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands YES and omitted afterwards to reset it back to the default: defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands NO There are some details about this in the file IMPORTANT_README, under "Beware! Changing Encoding Requires Care". This also means that the XeTeX samples should be changed at some point, to reflect TeXShop's new syntax. Hoping I'm not making another mistake this time, Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Wed May 11 12:43:32 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:43:32 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXshop, non european fonts and XeTeX In-Reply-To: <9AC24544-19DB-4EC3-8048-8494A27EDBD4@mac.com> Message-ID: On 5/11/05 11:19 AM, "Bruno Voisin" wrote: > More blunder: that was actually correct. I had forgotten I had set > earlier, in Terminal: > > defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands YES > > and omitted afterwards to reset it back to the default: > > defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands NO > > There are some details about this in the file IMPORTANT_README, under > "Beware! Changing Encoding Requires Care". > > This also means that the XeTeX samples should be changed at some > point, to reflect TeXShop's new syntax. > > Hoping I'm not making another mistake this time, > > Bruno Voisin Howdy, I've done that also. while agree that the old style headings interfered with a well established method to give TeX information on processing I don't understand is why it is so important to NOT accept the old style headings as a starting point and not have to change every file I have that didn't have the interference problem. I'm sure there are still some .tex files on my system I haven't changed; when I come across them I'll change them but I don't think problems should arise just reading them into TeXShop or processing them without changing them. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Wed May 11 12:54:24 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 11:54:24 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXshop, non european fonts and XeTeX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/11/05 11:43 AM, "Herb Schulz" wrote: > On 5/11/05 11:19 AM, "Bruno Voisin" wrote: > >> More blunder: that was actually correct. I had forgotten I had set >> earlier, in Terminal: >> >> defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands YES >> >> and omitted afterwards to reset it back to the default: >> >> defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands NO >> >> There are some details about this in the file IMPORTANT_README, under >> "Beware! Changing Encoding Requires Care". >> >> This also means that the XeTeX samples should be changed at some >> point, to reflect TeXShop's new syntax. >> >> Hoping I'm not making another mistake this time, >> >> Bruno Voisin > > Howdy, > > I've done that also. while agree that the old style headings interfered with > a well established method to give TeX information on processing I don't > understand is why it is so important to NOT accept the old style headings as > a starting point and not have to change every file I have that didn't have > the interference problem. I'm sure there are still some .tex files on my > system I haven't changed; when I come across them I'll change them but I > don't think problems should arise just reading them into TeXShop or > processing them without changing them. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest.com) > Howdy, I just tried using the line %!TEX TS-program = context or %!TEX TS-program = texexec at the start of the ConTeXt file. The bad news is that TeXShop doesn't recognize either of those to choose the built-in command to run texexec on the file. The good news is that, when texexec is run manually (actually, via Cmd-Shft-N in TeXShop rather than Cmd-T) it no longer gets confused by the line; the intended result of changing the command structure. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 11 12:10:16 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:10:16 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXshop, non european fonts and XeTeX In-Reply-To: <0CC3114B-7ED9-4F32-BCFB-16749BB82272@mac.com> References: <0CC3114B-7ED9-4F32-BCFB-16749BB82272@mac.com> Message-ID: <6D05A230-4AEE-411F-A6B6-C4D05418EB50@mac.com> Le 11 mai 05 ? 17:52, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > TeXShop switched to a new syntax for specifying the engine and > encoding. Details are there changes.html> (see "New features in 2.00 and 1.37"). You've got to > (1) set in TexShop the default encoding to UTF-8, (2) open you > input file -- the characters should now display correctly --, (3) > change the first two lines in your input file, (4) save and close > it, (5) set back the default encoding in TeXShop to its original > setting, (6) reopen your input file -- it should now display > correctly. That's all wrong, and the problem must lie elsewhere. Maybe you don't have the font "Geeza Pro"? Sorry for the blunder. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 11 13:20:19 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:20:19 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXshop, non european fonts and XeTeX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <395BE8A6-B624-4BE2-87A2-72170C4C3768@mac.com> Le 11 mai 05 ? 18:54, Herb Schulz a ?crit : > I just tried using the line > > %!TEX TS-program = context > > or > > %!TEX TS-program = texexec > > at the start of the ConTeXt file. > > The bad news is that TeXShop doesn't recognize either of those to > choose the > built-in command to run texexec on the file. The good news is that, > when > texexec is run manually (actually, via Cmd-Shft-N in TeXShop rather > than > Cmd-T) it no longer gets confused by the line; the intended result of > changing the command structure. I think the TS-program here must correspond to an engine from ~/ Library/TeXShop/Engines/. Or maybe to one of the scripts inside / Applications/TeXShop.app/Contents/Resources/, in which case that could be "contextwrap" instead of "context". I've not fully mastered the difference between engine files, and the scripts specified in the Engine pref tab. For example, inside / Applications/TeXShop.app/Contents/Resources/, both contextwrap and XeTeX.engine are shell scripts (just open them in TextEdit). Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macmechanic at fastmail.fm Wed May 11 13:53:02 2005 From: macmechanic at fastmail.fm (Rene Borgella) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 13:53:02 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] tiger and latex hint Message-ID: Tiger users: At this link there's a hint on using Grapher.app (in the Utilities folder) to make LaTex equations. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Wed May 11 13:57:57 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:57:57 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXshop, non european fonts and XeTeX In-Reply-To: <395BE8A6-B624-4BE2-87A2-72170C4C3768@mac.com> Message-ID: On 5/11/05 12:20 PM, "Bruno Voisin" wrote: > > I think the TS-program here must correspond to an engine from ~/ > Library/TeXShop/Engines/. Or maybe to one of the scripts inside / > Applications/TeXShop.app/Contents/Resources/, in which case that > could be "contextwrap" instead of "context". > Howdy, But it also is useful for pdflatex vs. latex (for files that need dvips processing), i.e., %!TEX TS-program=latex will run through latex->dvips->ps2pdf as expected even though my defaults are set for pdflatex processing. I guess I'd assume that it should work for all the default processes in the Typeset Menu but it never has. > I've not fully mastered the difference between engine files, and the > scripts specified in the Engine pref tab. For example, inside / > Applications/TeXShop.app/Contents/Resources/, both contextwrap and > XeTeX.engine are shell scripts (just open them in TextEdit). > > Bruno TeXShop ``contains'' all the default .engines, etc., it needs to populate the necessary directories it creates when it first starts up. That is why, e.g., CommandCompletion.txt goes back to a default copy if you empty the ~/TeXShop/CommandCompletion/ folder and start up TeXShop. The contextwrap file is, most likely, what TeXShop uses internally for running texexec. I made a simple context.engine that simply called texexec --pdf "$1" and it works using %!TEX TS-program = context on the first line. I'm not sure when TeXShop uses the --passon=" --interaction=nonstopmode " version in contextwrap. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lsequeir at fc.ul.pt Wed May 11 14:08:28 2005 From: lsequeir at fc.ul.pt (Luis Sequeira) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:08:28 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop text navigation glitch In-Reply-To: <4013.81727@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <4013.81727@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: I am loving the new TeXShop (especially the sync and hyperlinks features) and that alone would have made go Tiger (if hadn't already :-)). But the new functionality regarding page navigation (Cmd-arrows for previous or next page in the preview) seems to have broken a basic keyboard combination that is, or should be, standard in text editing: e.g. Cmd-rightarrow used to move to the end of the current line, for example - and that's how it works in most programs that edit text (with the exception of, er, Word); more to the point, that's how most people are by now brain-wired to expect it (I know I am!). This no longer works in TeXShop. If there is some hidden preference that lets one set this straight, I would like to know. If not, can this be fixed in the next version, please? By the way, thanks again, Richard, for this great new TeXShop! Luis Sequeira --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From pastor at fusl.ac.be Wed May 11 14:52:34 2005 From: pastor at fusl.ac.be (Franck Pastor) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 20:52:34 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] tiger and latex hint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 11-mai-05, ? 19:53, Rene Borgella a ?crit : > Tiger users: > > At this link there's a hint on using Grapher.app (in the Utilities > folder) to make LaTex equations. Isn't it this application which was formerly known as "Curvus Pro", from Arizona Software? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From justin at mac.com Wed May 11 15:14:37 2005 From: justin at mac.com (Justin Walker) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 12:14:37 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] tiger and latex hint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 11, 2005, at 11:52, Franck Pastor wrote: > > Le 11-mai-05, ? 19:53, Rene Borgella a ?crit : > >> Tiger users: >> >> At this link there's a hint on using Grapher.app (in the Utilities >> folder) to make LaTex equations. > > Isn't it this application which was formerly known as "Curvus Pro", > from Arizona Software? I'd put money on that. In fact, I did :-} Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for General Semantics -------- Some people have a mental horizon of radius zero, and call it their point of view. -- David Hilbert -------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Wed May 11 15:14:51 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:14:51 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXshop, non european fonts and XeTeX In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <298a0b22276c39145ff8de2cf4288359@Web.DE> Am 11.05.2005 um 16:45 schrieb Roberto Avanzi: > what should I do in order to view (and edit) the international > characters with the TeXshop editor? > I think you need to install from your Mac OS X CDs or DVD those extra-European fonts that you want to see. The Additional Fonts package has Arabic, Hebrew, and Cyrillic plus some Indics. The Additional Asian Fonts package has those Far Eastern CJK fonts. Next thing is that you'll have to set your keyboard layout to a language that supports the script you want to type in. It's OK to set in TeXShop's preferences UTF-8 as default encoding, but not the MacOSX UTF encoding. It will make your TeX files Mac OS X only. And of course you'll have to decide which font you use to type the text. ?k opens the fonts chooser. -- Mit friedvollen Gr??en Pete Government is actually the worst failure of civilized man. There has never been a really good one, and even those that are most tolerable are arbitrary, cruel, grasping and unintelligent. -- H. L. Mencken --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fstengel at mac.com Wed May 11 15:18:14 2005 From: fstengel at mac.com (Frank STENGEL) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 19:18:14 +0000 Subject: [OS X TeX] tiger and latex hint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <486CB1CA-4E04-4786-876D-13C62175771A@mac.com> Le 11 mai 05 ? 18:52, Franck Pastor a ?crit : > > Isn't it this application which was formerly known as "Curvus Pro", > from Arizona Software? > Looks a lot like it ;-) I remember arizona having sold Curvus Pro to a well known computer maker... -- Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macmechanic at fastmail.fm Wed May 11 15:38:12 2005 From: macmechanic at fastmail.fm (Rene Borgella) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:38:12 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] tiger and latex hint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 8:52 PM +0200 5/11/05, Franck Pastor wrote: >> >>At this link there's a hint on using >>Grapher.app (in the Utilities folder) to make >>LaTex equations. > >Isn't it this application which was formerly >known as "Curvus Pro", from Arizona Software? > I've no idea! I am not familiar with Curvus Pro and I myself do not have a Tiger in my box yet. Perhaps someone w/Tiger can take a look at the package contents and see if there's any hint of the Curvus Pro origins. Since Justin has just laid some $ down on this, perhaps he'd like to let us know what made him confident of this. Justin, are you there? ren? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From pastor at fusl.ac.be Wed May 11 17:44:22 2005 From: pastor at fusl.ac.be (Franck Pastor) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 23:44:22 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] tiger and latex hint In-Reply-To: <486CB1CA-4E04-4786-876D-13C62175771A@mac.com> References: <486CB1CA-4E04-4786-876D-13C62175771A@mac.com> Message-ID: <1684f9487c00df65dd8832b8e663e7dc@fusl.ac.be> Le 11-mai-05, ? 21:18, Frank STENGEL a ?crit : > > Le 11 mai 05 ? 18:52, Franck Pastor a ?crit : > >> >> Isn't it this application which was formerly known as "Curvus Pro", >> from Arizona Software? >> > > Looks a lot like it ;-) I remember arizona having sold Curvus Pro to a > well known computer maker... > Well, that's what I thought ;-) I knew that Curvus Pro had been bought by Apple for their new system, but I didn't know how Tiger would name it (and I don't have Tiger yet, so I wanted to be sure that this "grapher" was my old friend Curvus Pro :-) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jhr at maths.warwick.ac.uk Wed May 11 17:47:36 2005 From: jhr at maths.warwick.ac.uk (John Rawnsley) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:47:36 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] tiger and latex hint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <30C32374-7CB7-4A39-923C-32EC6CD2256E@maths.warwick.ac.uk> On 11 May 2005, at 20:38, Rene Borgella wrote: > Perhaps someone w/Tiger can take a look at the package > contents and see if there's any hint of the Curvus Pro > origins. Perhaps the Grapher.app application signature of `CRVS' is a clue... (taken from the PkgInfo file) John -- John Rawnsley * --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From tex at jnicholl.org Wed May 11 20:27:45 2005 From: tex at jnicholl.org (Jonathan Nicholl) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 01:27:45 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] tiger and latex hint In-Reply-To: <30C32374-7CB7-4A39-923C-32EC6CD2256E@maths.warwick.ac.uk> References: <30C32374-7CB7-4A39-923C-32EC6CD2256E@maths.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 11 May 2005, at 22:47, John Rawnsley wrote: > > On 11 May 2005, at 20:38, Rene Borgella wrote: > > >> Perhaps someone w/Tiger can take a look at the package >> contents and see if there's any hint of the Curvus Pro >> origins. >> > > Perhaps the Grapher.app application signature of `CRVS' is a clue... > (taken from the PkgInfo file) > > John > -- > John Rawnsley * It's definitely Curvus Pro X; I own a license. All the menus are basically the same; the functionality is the same; even the examples are the same. There are differences, but they are cosmetic. In fact, the main difference seems to be the brushed metal interface. (You can use Curvus Pro X to make LaTeX expressions in exactly the same way as Grapher.) If I double-click on my old Curvus Pro X documents when Grapher is open but Curvus Pro X is not, a warning pops up: 'The document "ABC.cpx" could not be opened. Grapher cannot open files in the "Curvus Pro X Document" format.' (I find the behavious here bizarre: CPX open? Grapher open? Opens in Yes Yes CPX Yes No CPX No Yes Grapher No No CPX Since when could one application, when open, steal responsibility for a file type?) I regret Apple's purchase of the application. The Arizona developers (Jean et Simon Bovet; I think Simon wrote the code) were very helpful, responded immediately to comments, and fixed bugs quickly. Will Apple? They don't seem to have done much with the application since they bought it. Jonathan --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macmechanic at fastmail.fm Wed May 11 21:11:45 2005 From: macmechanic at fastmail.fm (Rene Borgella) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 21:11:45 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] curvus pro Message-ID: Editor Notes: >From the developer: "On July 22, 2004 Curvus Pro X was bought by an international company (whose name cannot be revealed) and its distribution has been discontinued. It is therefore not possible any longer to download nor to buy any kind of registration license for this program. We would like at this point to thank all the users sincerely who registered and supported us during the development of this program." Ren? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From justin at mac.com Wed May 11 21:48:19 2005 From: justin at mac.com (Justin Walker) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:48:19 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] tiger and latex hint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8c5b79257409c1cea53c6547172945a7@mac.com> On May 11, 2005, at 12:38, Rene Borgella wrote: > At 8:52 PM +0200 5/11/05, Franck Pastor wrote: > >>> >>> At this link there's a hint on using Grapher.app (in the Utilities >>> folder) to make LaTex equations. >> >> Isn't it this application which was formerly known as "Curvus Pro", >> from Arizona Software? >> > > > I've no idea! I am not familiar with Curvus Pro and I myself do not > have a Tiger in my box yet. > > Perhaps someone w/Tiger can take a look at the package contents and > see if there's any hint of the Curvus Pro origins. > > Since Justin has just laid some $ down on this, perhaps he'd like to > let us know what made him confident of this. Justin, are you there? I "new" as soon as I opened up Grapher. The look is distinctive, and the capabilities are much the same as Curvus Pro. It's still a guess; the layout is different, and there are some other changes, but it seems to be essentially what Curvus Pro was. Jonathan Nicholl's post seems definitive. Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for General Semantics -------- If you're not confused, You're not paying attention -------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From justin at mac.com Wed May 11 21:53:20 2005 From: justin at mac.com (Justin Walker) Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 18:53:20 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] tiger and latex hint In-Reply-To: References: <30C32374-7CB7-4A39-923C-32EC6CD2256E@maths.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: On May 11, 2005, at 17:27, Jonathan Nicholl wrote: > On 11 May 2005, at 22:47, John Rawnsley wrote: > >> >> On 11 May 2005, at 20:38, Rene Borgella wrote: >> >> >>> Perhaps someone w/Tiger can take a look at the package >>> contents and see if there's any hint of the Curvus Pro >>> origins. >>> >> >> Perhaps the Grapher.app application signature of `CRVS' is a clue... >> (taken from the PkgInfo file) [smip] > (I find the behavious here bizarre: > > CPX open? Grapher open? Opens in > Yes Yes CPX > Yes No CPX > No Yes Grapher > No No CPX > > Since when could one application, when open, steal responsibility for > a file type?) Perhaps the system gives perference to an open app, before checking other possibilities. Do the results when both are open vary depending on which started first? (This is way off topic, but kind of intriguing, nonetheless). Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for General Semantics -------- Some people have a mental horizon of radius zero, and call it their point of view. -- David Hilbert -------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From eric.van-der-oord at wanadoo.fr Wed May 11 23:49:49 2005 From: eric.van-der-oord at wanadoo.fr (Eric van der Oord) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 05:49:49 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] gv and Tiger In-Reply-To: References: <30C32374-7CB7-4A39-923C-32EC6CD2256E@maths.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hi After a clean install of Tiger, I ran i-installer to install TeX, ghostscript, xfig, gv... again. Latex and xfig work fine But for gv I get the message ;"tcsh: gv: Command not found." Thanks for any help Eric --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ajmiller at psu.edu Fri May 13 19:04:14 2005 From: ajmiller at psu.edu (Andrew J.Miller) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 19:04:14 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] List Server is running again Message-ID: <20896eae460ad50961b37a847e3e863b@psu.edu> The Mac OS X TeX list server is now running again. It went down just after midnight on Thursday. Sorry for any inconvenience about the disruption. -- Andrew Miller --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Thu May 12 04:19:42 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:19:42 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] gv and Tiger In-Reply-To: References: <30C32374-7CB7-4A39-923C-32EC6CD2256E@maths.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: On May 12, 2005, at 05:49, Eric van der Oord wrote: > Hi > > After a clean install of Tiger, I ran i-installer to install TeX, > ghostscript, xfig, gv... again. > > Latex and xfig work fine > > But for gv I get the message ;"tcsh: gv: Command not found." Most likely /usr/local/bin is missing from your PATH. This is an area which requires some improvements. Only he ghostscript package does the /usr/local/bin PATH addition. G --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Thu May 12 01:40:35 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 01:40:35 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] gv and Tiger In-Reply-To: References: <30C32374-7CB7-4A39-923C-32EC6CD2256E@maths.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: <93e8a6b8b068b3a21721740a7369cf96@msrce.howard.edu> On May 11, 2005, at 11:49 PM, Eric van der Oord wrote: > Hi > > After a clean install of Tiger, I ran i-installer to install TeX, > ghostscript, xfig, gv... again. > > Latex and xfig work fine > > But for gv I get the message ;"tcsh: gv: Command not found." Try: rehash on the command line, or start a new shell... Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no Thu May 12 05:22:27 2005 From: Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no (Jonas Wellendorf) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 09:22:27 +0000 Subject: [OS X TeX] xetex, bibdesk and bibtex? Message-ID: Hi, I use bibdesk and texshop (newest versions for OS X 10.3). I have no problems with the combination latex+bibtex but when I use the combination xelatex+bibtex the characters ? and ? [quotationmarks] and ? [m-dash] in my bibliography appear as ``, '' and -- in the typeset pdf-file. On my (Norwegian) keyboard I enter these characters as [alt+n], [alt+m] and [alt+-]. How should I enter these characters to get the expected output? I would like to use the same bibtex database for botht ypes of documents. I use the UFT-8 encoding in bibdesk. Thank you, Jonas --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Thu May 12 05:18:21 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 11:18:21 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Line thickness in TeXShop preview (and Preview.app) on Tiger Message-ID: It seems that in TeXShop's preview window on Tiger (hence with version 2.02) the thickness of lines, as produced by underlining or in tables, varies: some lines have (what looks like) one pixel thickness, while others have two pixels thickness. This appears to be connected with the magnification: at 100% or 200% all lines have the same thickness, but when the PDF document isn't displayed at an integer multiple of its original resolution, for example with 150% magnification, the thickness starts to vary. Local rounding artifacts when mapping from the document resolution to the screen resolution, when the two are no integer multiples of each other? Preview.app exhibits the same behaviour, thus it seems to be connected with Apple's routines used by TeXShop. I was accustomed to this behaviour in OzTeX, but don't remember seeing it in TeXShop before Tiger. Screenshots here . (Sorry for the "-zip.zip" extensions, I've no idea of how it got there and tried everything I could think of to get rid of it, with no luck.) Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Thu May 12 04:16:01 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:16:01 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Man and info pages in gwTeX In-Reply-To: <5E9CE176-0F35-4D42-ACDC-4AD2D5A05143@mac.com> References: <427E4B2E.6090805@wanadoo.fr> <5E9CE176-0F35-4D42-ACDC-4AD2D5A05143@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 8, 2005, at 19:51, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 8 mai 05 ? 19:23, Martin Costabel a ?crit : > >> I don't know if you noticed, but the man/manpath/MANPATH system has >> again changed between Panther and Tiger: >> >> On Panther, the MANPATH environment variable was working, but was >> being considered with a certain hostility by manpath and its >> followers. The one and only configuration file (which was used and >> written to by GWtex) was /etc/manpath.config. >> >> On Tiger, the hostility seems to have disappeared, and the config >> file is now /usr/share/misc/man.conf; in addition its name is >> configurable. > > Many thanks for the info. Thus it seems what should be done is adding > to this file, or to a similar file if there can be several such files, > the entry: > > MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/ > /usr/local/teTeX/man/ > > But it seems there's also a conflict between the default in this file: > > MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/share/man > > and the structure used by gwTeX which would require: > > MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man > > It's amusing to note man.conf also contains reference to TeX, but > apparently to a TeX of a different kind: > > #MANPATH /opt/teTeX/man /opt is DarwinPorts if I remember correctly. G --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Thu May 12 04:14:57 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 10:14:57 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Man and info pages in gwTeX In-Reply-To: <427E4B2E.6090805@wanadoo.fr> References: <427E4B2E.6090805@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <8b0d25e135a418f1ac33d52a35d98107@rna.nl> On May 8, 2005, at 19:23, Martin Costabel wrote: > On Tiger, the hostility seems to have disappeared, and the config file > is now /usr/share/misc/man.conf; in addition its name is configurable. This will require a change in the ocnfigure scripts for adding man paths and such. Since I have not installed Tiger yet (I only have two machines, one is my 24/7 Cube server still running Panther until 10.4.1 is out and the other is my iBook which is still running 10.3.9 or 10.2.8 (for compilation)) So a fix will be forthcoming, after my iBook has been upgraded to Tiger (which I still have not received). G --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macmechanic at fastmail.fm Thu May 12 20:17:57 2005 From: macmechanic at fastmail.fm (Rene Borgella) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 20:17:57 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger -- some cautions & caveats Message-ID: Dear Folks: Please excuse the fact that this is definitely not a TeX issue in any way, but because it's a Mac OS X posting, I hope you'll consider it appropriate. If you don't use Tiger, aren't considering doing so in the near future, or perhaps are just not interested, then don't read any further. Otherwise, here's the deal . . . (from MacInTouch.com, other sources on the net have been reporting the same problems). Widget Users-- Dashboard widgets may be points of entry for malware . . . "This page discusses a security flaw resulting from a series of bad design choices in Safari and Dashboard in OS X 10.4, and links to a demonstration exploit." Also at: Possible Data Loss-- (Also relevant to HFSX "Extended Attributes" mentioned the other day) "Apple has a critical warning about the possibility of data loss using pre-Tiger utilities with the new operating system:" "Mac OS X 10.4 adds support for Extended Attributes. A disk repair application that's not Mac OS X 10.4-aware may incorrectly report Extended Attributes as directory damage. You may get an error message such as "Cannot be rebuilt. The original directory is too severely damaged" that is untrue." I've seen a few reports of this and the problem isn't apparent until you open up and try to use the sparse image. HTH Ren? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bernd.thaller at uni-graz.at Fri May 13 05:52:59 2005 From: bernd.thaller at uni-graz.at (Bernd Thaller) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 11:52:59 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] PCTeX on Mac OS X In-Reply-To: <486CB1CA-4E04-4786-876D-13C62175771A@mac.com> References: <486CB1CA-4E04-4786-876D-13C62175771A@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi, I just received Personal TeX's Spring 2005 Customer Newsletter stating that they are looking for Linux/Mac beta testers. Seems that a new TeX implementation for OS-X is around the corner. At 13:39 Uhr -0700 12.05.2005, sales at pctex.com wrote: >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >2. PCTeX for Linux and Mac OS X - looking for Beta testers > >We are looking for beta testers for new PCTeX versions for Linux and Mac OS X. >Testing will begin in June or July. If you can help with this >please contact us. (feedback at pctex.com, Subject: Linux / Mac beta >tester) > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, Bernd Thaller -- **************************************************************** Bernd Thaller Institute for Mathematics, University of Graz Heinrichstrasse 36, A-8010 Graz, Austria/Europe Tel: (+43 316) 380 5164 Fax: (+43 316) 380 9815 mailto:bernd.thaller at uni-graz.at http://vqm.uni-graz.at/ **************************************************************** --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mika.luoma-aho at pp.inet.fi Thu May 12 11:27:37 2005 From: mika.luoma-aho at pp.inet.fi (Mika Luoma-aho) Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 18:27:37 +0300 Subject: [OS X TeX] How to suppress automatic sectioning in bibliography? Message-ID: OK, I am putting finishing touches on a {scrartcl} using package {chicago}. I know how to hide the number before a section-title by doing a \section*{Acknowledgements}, but would also like to suppress automatic sectioning of the \bibliography, i.e. the number before References. Don't know how to do that, I'm afraid. Anyone? Cheers, Mika. -- Mika Luoma-aho, PhD University of Lapland Faculty of Social Sciences PO BOX 122 FI-96101 Rovaniemi Tel. +358 (0)16 341 2648 -- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From dac at panix.com Fri May 13 21:19:04 2005 From: dac at panix.com (david craig) Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 21:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] tiger and latex hint Message-ID: > I regret Apple's purchase of the application. I agree. I think Curvus Pro can be safely regarded as a dead application -- to Apple, this is nothing more than a bauble. It won't receive any further serious development. On the plus side, there is now a wonderful Mac OS X version of the original Graphing Calculator! David Craig --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From stephen.anderson at yale.edu Fri May 13 22:01:18 2005 From: stephen.anderson at yale.edu (Stephen Anderson) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:01:18 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Adding packages in LaTeX equation editors? Message-ID: The new generation of LaTeX equation editors (LaTeXit, TeXType) looks very nice, given LinkBack as a way to get the results directly into Keynote. But so far it looks like main thing they're good for is mathematical equations. As a linguist, my needs are different. For instance, I would like to be able to typeset expressions with phonetic symbols from the tipa font, but I don't see any way to do that: putting a command like \usepackage[T1,safe]{tipa} in the editor window gives an error since \usepackage can only appear in the preamble. Likewise for tree-drawing things. So: is there some way to modify the preamble in one or the other of these packages? I may be missing something obvious, but neither is exactly fully documented. Thanks, -- Steve Anderson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From stephen.anderson at yale.edu Fri May 13 22:09:49 2005 From: stephen.anderson at yale.edu (Stephen Anderson) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:09:49 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Adding packages in LaTeX equation editors? [Solved] Message-ID: Please ignore my previous message. I just found the clear explanation of how to modify the preamble in LaTeXiT. Sorry... -- Steve Anderson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From eric.van-der-oord at wanadoo.fr Sat May 14 01:14:07 2005 From: eric.van-der-oord at wanadoo.fr (Eric van der Oord) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 07:14:07 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] gv and Tiger In-Reply-To: References: <30C32374-7CB7-4A39-923C-32EC6CD2256E@maths.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: <6E5D9B37-1649-4A51-8461-89BFBC392709@wanadoo.fr> Thanks to Aaron and Gerben! Sorry for this very naive question : in what file (or files) have I to set the good PATH ? Eric Le 12 mai 05 ? 10:19, Gerben Wierda a ?crit : > On May 12, 2005, at 05:49, Eric van der Oord wrote: > > >> Hi >> >> After a clean install of Tiger, I ran i-installer to install TeX, >> ghostscript, xfig, gv... again. >> >> Latex and xfig work fine >> >> But for gv I get the message ;"tcsh: gv: Command not found." >> > > Most likely /usr/local/bin is missing from your PATH. This is an > area which requires some improvements. Only he ghostscript package > does the /usr/local/bin PATH addition. > > G > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From alain.matthes at mac.com Sat May 14 01:21:57 2005 From: alain.matthes at mac.com (Alain Matthes) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 07:21:57 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TextMate and pdftricks Message-ID: Hello Sorry for my bad english... :( I've no problem to use TeXniscope and TextMate without pdftricks but =20 when i use pdftricks ( with TeXshop it's perfect !) with a file like =20 this : \documentclass[a4paper,10pt]{article} \usepackage{ifpdf} \ifpdf \usepackage{pdftricks} \begin{psinputs} \usepackage{pstricks} \usepackage{pstricks-add} \usepackage{pst-plot} \end{psinputs} \else \usepackage{pstricks} \usepackage{pstricks-add} \usepackage{pst-plot} \fi \begin{document} \begin{pdfdisplay} \[\psset{xunit=3D0.75,yunit=3D0.75} \begin{pspicture}(-2,-2)(8,2) \psset{griddots=3D0,gridlabels=3D10pt,subgriddiv=3D5} \psset{shortput=3Dnab,nodesep=3D3pt,arrows=3D->,labelsep=3D3pt} \cnodeput(1,0){A}{A} \cnodeput(5,0){B}{B} \nccircle[angleA=3D90]{A}{0.6cm}_{0,75} \ncarc[arcangle=3D40]{A}{B}^{0,25} \ncarc[arcangle=3D40]{B}{A}^{0,5} \nccircle[angleA=3D-90]{B}{0.6cm}_{0,5} \end{pspicture}\] \end{pdfdisplay} \end{document} In Command Output i've : 1: latex : command not found and in the log sh: line 1: latex: command not found rm: graphe-fig1.aux: No such file or directory rm: graphe-fig1.dvi: No such file or directory is it possible to use pdftricks with textmate ? Alain Matthes --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Sat May 14 01:54:08 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 01:54:08 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] gv and Tiger In-Reply-To: <6E5D9B37-1649-4A51-8461-89BFBC392709@wanadoo.fr> References: <30C32374-7CB7-4A39-923C-32EC6CD2256E@maths.warwick.ac.uk> <6E5D9B37-1649-4A51-8461-89BFBC392709@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <730761928109beace1b8266f43c6f08d@msrce.howard.edu> On May 14, 2005, at 1:14 AM, Eric van der Oord wrote: > Thanks to Aaron and Gerben! > > Sorry for this very naive question : in what file (or files) have I to > set the good PATH ? This depends on your shell. If you use bash, modify your path variable in ~/.profile. If you use tcsh modify ~/.tcshrc. In my .tcshrc file, I put the following to include X11 binaries: setenv PATH "/usr/X11R6/bin/:$PATH" The equivalent bash style is PATH="/usr/X11R6/bin/:$PATH" export PATH Aaron PS If you don't know what shell you have copy and past the following line in a terminal window: env | grep SHELL --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Sat May 14 02:08:53 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 02:08:53 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TextMate and pdftricks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7126dbe7750577b4db26298c6e69a3e5@msrce.howard.edu> On May 14, 2005, at 1:21 AM, Alain Matthes wrote: > Hello > Sorry for my bad english... :( > > I've no problem to use TeXniscope and TextMate without pdftricks but > =20 > when i use pdftricks ( with TeXshop it's perfect !) with a file like > =20 > this : I have no idea what TextMate is, but I do see a problem with your file: > > \documentclass[a4paper,10pt]{article} > \usepackage{ifpdf} > \ifpdf > \usepackage{pdftricks} > \begin{psinputs} > \usepackage{pstricks} > \usepackage{pstricks-add} > \usepackage{pst-plot} > \end{psinputs} > \else > \usepackage{pstricks} > \usepackage{pstricks-add} > \usepackage{pst-plot} \newenvironment{pdfdisplay}{}{} % This line needs to be here when you process your file with latex. > \fi > \begin{document} > \begin{pdfdisplay} > \[\psset{xunit=3D0.75,yunit=3D0.75} > \begin{pspicture}(-2,-2)(8,2) > \psset{griddots=3D0,gridlabels=3D10pt,subgriddiv=3D5} > \psset{shortput=3Dnab,nodesep=3D3pt,arrows=3D->,labelsep=3D3pt} > \cnodeput(1,0){A}{A} > \cnodeput(5,0){B}{B} > \nccircle[angleA=3D90]{A}{0.6cm}_{0,75} > \ncarc[arcangle=3D40]{A}{B}^{0,25} > \ncarc[arcangle=3D40]{B}{A}^{0,5} > \nccircle[angleA=3D-90]{B}{0.6cm}_{0,5} > \end{pspicture}\] > \end{pdfdisplay} > \end{document} > > In Command Output i've : > > 1: latex : command not found > and in the log > sh: line 1: latex: command not found > rm: graphe-fig1.aux: No such file or directory > rm: graphe-fig1.dvi: No such file or directory > > is it possible to use pdftricks with textmate ? > This is most likely a path problem, but I don't know TextMate and I don't know how you process this file. Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bb at creativeeyes.at Sat May 14 03:19:46 2005 From: bb at creativeeyes.at (Bernhard Barkow) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 09:19:46 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] gv and Tiger In-Reply-To: References: <30C32374-7CB7-4A39-923C-32EC6CD2256E@maths.warwick.ac.uk> Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >> After a clean install of Tiger, I ran i-installer to install TeX, >> ghostscript, xfig, gv... again. >> >> Latex and xfig work fine >> >> But for gv I get the message ;"tcsh: gv: Command not found." >> > > Most likely /usr/local/bin is missing from your PATH. This is an > area which requires some improvements. Only he ghostscript package > does the /usr/local/bin PATH addition. > I agree with that; however, in Tiger /usr/local/bin seems to be included by the system, so the ghostscript package adds it a second time. BB -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFChaaWqJ8JxFkhAg0RAg4CAJ9N/LhTWX2DXhQikR83hkI6fwGyCACfd4ET 825hoSf42EHYqn5whcEji0I= =hGbv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sat May 14 03:43:22 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 09:43:22 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] xetex, bibdesk and bibtex? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0D5CA623-E37C-48A8-ACD8-12552578E4F2@mac.com> Le 12 mai 05 ? 11:22, Jonas Wellendorf a ?crit : > I use bibdesk and texshop (newest versions for OS X 10.3). I have > no problems with the combination latex+bibtex but when I use the > combination xelatex+bibtex the characters ? and ? [quotationmarks] > and ? [m-dash] in my bibliography appear as ``, '' and -- in the > typeset pdf-file. > On my (Norwegian) keyboard I enter these characters as [alt+n], [alt > +m] and [alt+-]. > > How should I enter these characters to get the expected output? I > would like to use the same bibtex database for botht ypes of > documents. > > I use the UFT-8 encoding in bibdesk. I am not sure regarding BibTeX (I don't use it), but regarding XeTeX you should make sure the fonts are called with the option ":mapping=tex-text", as in: \DeclareFontFamily{U}{optima}{} \DeclareFontShape{U}{optima}{m}{n} {<-> "Optima\space Regular:mapping=tex-text"}{} In case you're using the fontspec package, that should translate to: \setromanfont[Mapping=tex-text]{Optima Regular} Also, did you make sure that, in your XeTeX document, you are using the new syntax: %!TEX TS-program = xelatex %!TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode instead of the old syntax: %&program=xelatex %&encoding=UTF-8 Unicode The file IMPORTANT_README in the TeXShop distro describes some pitfalls related to this change. It may also be that you need to put the second line (encoding-related) in your BibTeX file as well, to make sure it is read by TeXShop with the proper encoding. Hope this helps, Bruno --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sat May 14 03:58:16 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 09:58:16 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] How to suppress automatic sectioning in bibliography? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9A363748-CA26-4B23-9C6A-179CDFEDC13C@mac.com> Le 12 mai 05 ? 17:27, Mika Luoma-aho a ?crit : > I am putting finishing touches on a {scrartcl} using package > {chicago}. I know how to hide the number before a section-title by > doing a \section*{Acknowledgements}, but would also like to > suppress automatic sectioning of the \bibliography, i.e. the number > before References. Don't know how to do that, I'm afraid. That's by redefining the thebibliography environment, i.e. the command \thebibliography from chicago.sty. I've not studied it (I'm not using chicago.sty), but generally I redefine thebibliography as follows, to turn it into an environment taking the bibliography section name as its argument (replacing \refname) and producing unnumbered references, in a slightly smaller font (at \footnotesize): \renewenvironment{thebibliography}[1] {\subsection*{\centering\normalfont\footnotesize\MakeUppercase{#1}} \footnotesize \begin{list}{}{\setlength{\leftmargin}{\bibindent} \setlength{\itemindent}{-\leftmargin} \setlength{\itemsep}{0pt} \setlength{\parsep}{\smallskipamount} \usecounter{enumiv}\renewcommand{\theenumiv}{}} \sloppy\clubpenalty=4000\widowpenalty=4000\frenchspacing} {\end{list}} HTH, Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sat May 14 05:56:15 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:56:15 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Adding packages in LaTeX equation editors? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3B483657-F9D4-4375-B424-207338B91725@xs4all.nl> On 14-mei-2005, at 4:01, Stephen Anderson wrote: > The new generation of LaTeX equation editors (LaTeXit, TeXType) > looks very nice, given LinkBack as a way to get the results > directly into Keynote. But so far it looks like main thing they're > good for is mathematical equations. As a linguist, my needs are > different. For instance, I would like to be able to typeset > expressions with phonetic symbols from the tipa font, but I don't > see any way to do that: putting a command like \usepackage[T1,safe] > {tipa} in the editor window gives an error since \usepackage can > only appear in the preamble. Likewise for tree-drawing things. I just won't ignore this message: the archives need an answer too. Make sure you use version 0.3 or later of TeXType, earlier version didn't handle changes to the template very well. The template in TeXType can be changed in the application's preferences. Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no Sat May 14 04:10:57 2005 From: Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no (Jonas Wellendorf) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 08:10:57 +0000 Subject: [OS X TeX] xetex, bibdesk and bibtex? In-Reply-To: <0D5CA623-E37C-48A8-ACD8-12552578E4F2@mac.com> References: <0D5CA623-E37C-48A8-ACD8-12552578E4F2@mac.com> Message-ID: <5cc928f1f86d4bf06dc0a295a9d47b53@cms.uib.no> P? 14. mai. 2005 kl. 07.43 skrev Bruno Voisin: > Le 12 mai 05 ? 11:22, Jonas Wellendorf a ?crit : > >> I use bibdesk and texshop (newest versions for OS X 10.3). I have no >> problems with the combination latex+bibtex but when I use the >> combination xelatex+bibtex the characters ? and ? [quotationmarks] >> and ? [m-dash] in my bibliography appear as ``, '' and -- in the >> typeset pdf-file. >> On my (Norwegian) keyboard I enter these characters as [alt+n], >> [alt+m] and [alt+-]. >> >> How should I enter these characters to get the expected output? I >> would like to use the same bibtex database for botht ypes of >> documents. >> >> I use the UFT-8 encoding in bibdesk. > > I am not sure regarding BibTeX (I don't use it), but regarding XeTeX > you should make sure the fonts are called with the option > ":mapping=tex-text", as in: > > \DeclareFontFamily{U}{optima}{} > \DeclareFontShape{U}{optima}{m}{n} > {<-> "Optima\space Regular:mapping=tex-text"}{} > > In case you're using the fontspec package, that should translate to: > > \setromanfont[Mapping=tex-text]{Optima Regular} Thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately it did not solve my problem. I do use the fontspec package. According to the manual the mappint=tex-text option will make -- appear as ?. My problem is that the opposite happens: ? in my bibtex file appears as -- in my finished document. Jonas -- Jonas Wellendorf Doctoral fellow Centre for Medieval Studies University of Bergen, Norway E-mail: Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no Phone: (+47) 55 58 80 93 --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sat May 14 06:54:20 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:54:20 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] xetex, bibdesk and bibtex? In-Reply-To: <5cc928f1f86d4bf06dc0a295a9d47b53@cms.uib.no> References: <0D5CA623-E37C-48A8-ACD8-12552578E4F2@mac.com> <5cc928f1f86d4bf06dc0a295a9d47b53@cms.uib.no> Message-ID: <1BCD4211-A997-46E6-94B7-9BF4C3D8F650@mac.com> Le 14 mai 05 ? 10:10, Jonas Wellendorf a ?crit : > P? 14. mai. 2005 kl. 07.43 skrev Bruno Voisin: > >> Le 12 mai 05 ? 11:22, Jonas Wellendorf a ?crit : >> >>> I use bibdesk and texshop (newest versions for OS X 10.3). I have >>> no problems with the combination latex+bibtex but when I use the >>> combination xelatex+bibtex the characters ? and >>> ? [quotationmarks] and ? [m-dash] in my bibliography appear as >>> ``, '' and -- in the typeset pdf-file. >>> On my (Norwegian) keyboard I enter these characters as [alt+n], >>> [alt+m] and [alt+-]. >>> >>> How should I enter these characters to get the expected output? I >>> would like to use the same bibtex database for botht ypes of >>> documents. >>> >>> I use the UFT-8 encoding in bibdesk. >> >> I am not sure regarding BibTeX (I don't use it), but regarding >> XeTeX you should make sure the fonts are called with the option >> ":mapping=tex-text", as in: >> >> [...] > > Thank you for your suggestion. Unfortunately it did not solve my > problem. > > I do use the fontspec package. According to the manual the > mappint=tex-text option will make -- appear as ?. My problem is > that the opposite happens: ? in my bibtex file appears as -- in my > finished document. Again this may or may not be related with your problem, but searching my XeTeX list mailbox I found the following message, from almost a year ago. That was before the "mapping=tex-text" mechanism was introduced; hence, to be handled with care. That said, the problem may as well be caused by the way BibDesk saves .bib files. I tried opening with BibDesk a .bib file from the doc of a package I use, editing one of the references by changing "--" to an UTF-8 en-dash "?" (Shift-Alt-- on my French keyboard), saving the result in UTF-8 encoding and opening this saved .bib file in a text editor: in the file, the "--" that I had changed to "?" still appears as "--". I'm not experienced with BibDesk at all, thus I may not have been doing what I think I did, but it seems BibDesk converts "?" to "--" upon saving, and similarly ? to `` and ? to ''. This ensures maximum compatibility with traditional TeX engines, but imposes the use of "mapping=tex-text" or [Mapping=tex-text] with XeTeX. You may also try the XeTeX mailing list, where you're more likely to find people knowledgeable in these matters. Bruno Voisin > De : Atip Asvanund > Date : 14 juillet 2004 21:15:10 HAEC > ? : Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X > Objet : R?p : [XeTeX] Replacing `` and '' with the unicode > equivalences in BibTeX? > > Dear Steffen, > > For reasons beyond my understand, your macro did work beautifully > for me. > I am hoping that it won't break for anything else I will do in the > future. > > I have an off-topic question for you. Why do you choose Hoefler > Text for > your paper writing font? > > Thank you, > > Atip > > On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Steffen Prohaska wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Hi, >> >> On Jul 14, 2004, at 7:09 PM, Atip Asvanund wrote: >> >>>> I try to use XeLaTeX with BibTeX. In certain BibTeX styles (e.g., >>>> Harvard >>>> Style) bibliography is printed out with quotaions around document >>>> titles. >>>> >>>> However, with XeLaTeX they are printed out as `` and '', rather >>>> than >>>> the >>>> unicode equivalences. Is there a way I can redefine the global >>>> property so >>>> that the unicode equivalences will show up properly? >>> >>> I posted a weird macro which would do the job, recently, see >>> http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2004-July/000564.html >>> >>> But as I didn't achieve to get such a macro working for '--' I >>> was kind >>> of stuck. I'm now trying to completely avoid the TeX specific >>> encodings >>> and replace them by macros. The macros can then be either defined to >>> expand to old-TeX style or to utf-8, e.g: >>> >>> old TeX: >>> \newcommand{\Quote}[1]{``#1''} >>> \def\Dash/{--} >>> >>> utf-8: >>> \newcommand{\Quote}[1]{?#1?} >>> \def\Dash/{?} >>> >>> Together with the macros I posted some minutes ago (to another >>> thread >>> to keep things sorted), I'm near to ``works for me'' :) Here they >>> are >>> again: >>> >>> utf-8: >>> \renewcommand{\"}[1]{\if#1a{?}\else\if#1A{?}\else\if#1u{?}\else >>> \if#1U{?} >>> \else\if#1o{?}\else\if#1O{?}\else ERROR: unexpected character >>> >>>> #1<\fi\fi\fi\fi\fi\fi} >>>> >>> \renewcommand{\c}[1]{\if#1c{?}\else\if#1C{?}\else ERROR: unexpected >>> character >#1<\fi\fi} >>> >>> Steffen >>> >>> - -- >>> PGP Public Key: http://www.zib.de/prohaska/prohaska.pgp >>> Key id: 0xDA749299 >>> Key fingerprint: 8B59 83A8 A43D E0E2 DEDB D479 3157 2FEA DA74 9299 >>> >>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (Darwin) >>> >>> iD8DBQFA9X5HMVcv6tp0kpkRArxyAJ0b294NaKa7CBlZdo5s7c2XyXuhLQCeI077 >>> AGigsqx08BInV7uvyK6XTeQ= >>> =ZHhZ >>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> XeTeX mailing list >>> postmaster at tug.org >>> http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex >> >> _______________________________________________ >> XeTeX mailing list >> postmaster at tug.org >> http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 14 07:47:38 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 06:47:38 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TextMate and pdftricks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/14/05 12:21 AM, "Alain Matthes" wrote: > > In Command Output i've : > > 1: latex : command not found > and in the log > sh: line 1: latex: command not found > rm: graphe-fig1.aux: No such file or directory > rm: graphe-fig1.dvi: No such file or directory > > is it possible to use pdftricks with textmate ? > > Alain Matthes Howdy, This sounds like a PATH problem. I'm not a user of TextMate so I don't know how it runs shell scripts but TeXShop, etc., are careful to make sure the PATH variable is properly set. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From wadams at atlis.com Sat May 14 09:11:17 2005 From: wadams at atlis.com (William F. Adams) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 09:11:17 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Line thickness in TeXShop preview (and Preview.app) on Tiger In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32ee85c80e41dcaed1295eb558e44160@atlis.com> On May 12, 2005, at 5:18 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > It seems that in TeXShop's preview window on Tiger (hence with version > 2.02) the thickness of lines, as produced by underlining or in tables, > varies: some lines have (what looks like) one pixel thickness, while > others have two pixels thickness. > > This appears to be connected with the magnification: at 100% or 200% > all lines have the same thickness, but when the PDF document isn't > displayed at an integer multiple of its original resolution, for > example with 150% magnification, the thickness starts to vary. Local > rounding artifacts when mapping from the document resolution to the > screen resolution, when the two are no integer multiples of each > other? > > Preview.app exhibits the same behaviour, thus it seems to be connected > with Apple's routines used by TeXShop. I was accustomed to this > behaviour in OzTeX, but don't remember seeing it in TeXShop before > Tiger. > > Screenshots here . > (Sorry for the "-zip.zip" extensions, I've no idea of how it got there > and tried everything I could think of to get rid of it, with no luck.) This is a function of how TeX draws lines. Instead of using a PostScript ``moveto'' and ``stroke'' operator, it defines a rectangular region and fills it. This means that it's subject to rounding errors as you noted, but this can be ameliorated by anti-aliasing and other rendering settings. In the past, I recall such dropping out completely quite often at lower magnifications, so it seems that Apple has set things so that they always render, resulting in the results you see. Frank Mittelbach spent a fair bit of time checking his macros for _The LaTeX Companion 2nd Ed._ because of the publisher being concerned with this in the proofs. William -- William Adams, publishing specialist voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708 www.atlis.com --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From piet at cs.uu.nl Sat May 14 06:14:32 2005 From: piet at cs.uu.nl (Piet van Oostrum) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:14:32 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Line thickness in TeXShop preview (and Preview.app) on Tiger In-Reply-To: (Bruno Voisin's message of "Thu, 12 May 2005 11:18:21 +0200") References: Message-ID: >>>>> Bruno Voisin (BV) wrote: >BV> It seems that in TeXShop's preview window on Tiger (hence with version >BV> 2.02) the thickness of lines, as produced by underlining or in tables, >BV> varies: some lines have (what looks like) one pixel thickness, while >BV> others have two pixels thickness. >BV> This appears to be connected with the magnification: at 100% or 200% all >BV> lines have the same thickness, but when the PDF document isn't displayed >BV> at an integer multiple of its original resolution, for example with 150% >BV> magnification, the thickness starts to vary. Local rounding artifacts when >BV> mapping from the document resolution to the screen resolution, when the >BV> two are no integer multiples of each other? I think so. It is quite probable that the top and bottom coordinates, or the left and right coordinates are rounded to pixels independently. It is hard to get all lines to display with the same width without some kind of `hinting'. -- Piet van Oostrum URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP] Private email: piet at vanoostrum.org --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Sat May 14 10:26:58 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 07:26:58 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] xetex, bibdesk and bibtex? In-Reply-To: <1BCD4211-A997-46E6-94B7-9BF4C3D8F650@mac.com> References: <0D5CA623-E37C-48A8-ACD8-12552578E4F2@mac.com> <5cc928f1f86d4bf06dc0a295a9d47b53@cms.uib.no> <1BCD4211-A997-46E6-94B7-9BF4C3D8F650@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 14, 2005, at 03:54, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 14 mai 05 ? 10:10, Jonas Wellendorf a ?crit : > > >> P? 14. mai. 2005 kl. 07.43 skrev Bruno Voisin: >> >> >>> Le 12 mai 05 ? 11:22, Jonas Wellendorf a ?crit : >>> >>> >>>> I use bibdesk and texshop (newest versions for OS X 10.3). I >>>> have no problems with the combination latex+bibtex but when I >>>> use the combination xelatex+bibtex the characters ? and >>>> ? [quotationmarks] and ? [m-dash] in my bibliography appear as >>>> ``, '' and -- in the typeset pdf-file. >>>> On my (Norwegian) keyboard I enter these characters as [alt+n], >>>> [alt+m] and [alt+-]. >>>> >>>> How should I enter these characters to get the expected output? >>>> I would like to use the same bibtex database for botht ypes of >>>> documents. >>>> >>>> I use the UFT-8 encoding in bibdesk. >>>> > > Again this may or may not be related with your problem, but > searching my XeTeX list mailbox I found the following message, from > almost a year ago. That was before the "mapping=tex-text" mechanism > was introduced; hence, to be handled with care. > > That said, the problem may as well be caused by the way BibDesk > saves .bib files. I tried opening with BibDesk a .bib file from the > doc of a package I use, editing one of the references by changing > "--" to an UTF-8 en-dash "?" (Shift-Alt-- on my French keyboard), > saving the result in UTF-8 encoding and opening this saved .bib > file in a text editor: in the file, the "--" that I had changed to > "?" still appears as "--". I'm not experienced with BibDesk at all, > thus I may not have been doing what I think I did, but it seems > BibDesk converts "?" to "--" upon saving, and similarly ? to `` and > ? to ''. This ensures maximum compatibility with traditional TeX > engines, but imposes the use of "mapping=tex-text" or [Mapping=tex- > text] with XeTeX. Bruno is quite correct; BibDesk will convert these characters to traditional TeX forms by default. You can uncheck the "Convert accented characters to TeX when exporting or pasting BibTeX" checkbox in BibDesk's Files preferences (where you change the encoding). If you're using XeLaTeX, you have no need for this feature. -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 14 11:18:42 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 17:18:42 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] A working version of emacs (fwd) In-Reply-To: <8AB76FCE-0DEA-444C-B0CF-B23E6BFF7C1B@mac.com> References: <652403BA-AFB8-4864-9D7D-B5FAC46FB8EF@wright.edu> <73090c10499ddbfda8eaab2b8e154b66@Web.DE> <8AB76FCE-0DEA-444C-B0CF-B23E6BFF7C1B@mac.com> Message-ID: <6d0717b7941100e309a6894b0f45f285@Web.DE> All? Bruno! I needed some time to sort things out and to be finally knowing enough to answer. I think I've got some news together ... Am 11.05.2005 um 15:23 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > > Not sure whether the following helps, but just in case: in the list of > unofficial patches > inside Seiji Zenitani's Carbon Emacs > , there's one > called mac-utf. And there's mention of utf-8 in the annoucement > May/000068.html>, for example. This annoucement is very specific for the Japanese Carbon Emacs. The mac-utf.el only works in a Japanese language environment (could be in Chinese or Korean too), and it uses very old software from the more xemacs related mule-ucs package. This one is obsolete now since it's functionality is said to be integrated into Carbon Emacs versions 21.3.50 and 22. If I put, as advised, these lines into my .emacs (require 'un-define) (require 'mac-utf) (set-language-environment 'German) a variable is missing that is defined in one the Japanese specific files in /Applications/EmacsJCVS.app/Contents/Resources/site-lisp/site-start.d/, which should be put aside outside Japan as the ReadMe text recommends. The patches too are very specific for CJK script systems. Some of the things mentioned there, are, at least, mis-leading. file-name-coding-system isn't *exactly* UTF-8, but decomposed UTF-8 in Mac OS X, because otherwise sorting would be a bit difficult (decomposed means that ? is saved as o^, in that sequence, ? becomes NJ and ? is at once a?? or such, which helps a bit when sorting because now it's not looking up complicated rules but comparison of simple bytes). The Panther edition still can't work correctly with this. The Unicode Emacs version 23 now handles it! The file names are sorted correctly, only the way the glyphs are actually re-composed (instead of looking them up from the fontset) needs some adaption -- from the beholder. Ugly isn't precise enough. The reason that Latin scripts outside the limited Mac-Roman range are treated so badly is somewhere in the QuickDraw heritage that only knows Mac-Encodings. All Carbon Emacsen still use the old Apple Type Services (ATS), while with some Mac OS 9 version ATSUI, the Apple Type Services for Unicode Imaging, were already introduced. (This too is some synonym to AAT, Apple's Advanced Typography that makes XeTeX work so fine.) At least one programmer, Steven Tamm, is turning the font interface to use ATSUI. Could be I'll break my neck when I'll jump on Christmas to high into the air -- the ceiling is quite low here at home. -- Greetings Pete "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 14 11:49:29 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 10:49:29 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger Problem Solved! (I Hope) Message-ID: Howdy, Unfortunately, my original request went to the wrong list but I'll put the apparent solution here since this list is probably has the members of the other list and it is a bit broader. To reiterate... After installing Tiger (as an Upgrade, not a Clean Install - I've never had any problems doing that and almost everything goes great - I had to re-run the Ghostscript and TeX i-package Configuration scripts to fix up the PATH for CLI use) I ran into a problem with files not opening as expected. The only way I could get TeXShop to open when double clicking a .tex document was to make TeXShop the default application for all files of file type TEXT: any attempt to change things in the Get Info and set it for all files of that type was immediately rejected and reset to the default application (TextEdit). Given the helpfulness of this list (and the other one too!!!) I cried for help. Bruno Voisin finally got me moving in the right direction with the following information (I Hope he doesn't mind me posting most of his helpful e-mail): ------------------- ... It may also be caused by a corrupted LaunchServices database or cache. I think Adam Maxwell on the OS X TeX list told once you need to trash the following files: /Library/Caches/com.apple.LaunchServices.6B.csstore ~/Library/Caches/com.apple.LaunchServices.UserCache.csstore ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.LaunchServices.plist then log off and on, or restart. Looking at the same locations in Tiger, the above files seem to have become, respectively: /Library/Caches/com.apple.LaunchServices-0140.csstore /Library/Caches/com.apple.LaunchServices-014501.csstore ~/Library/Preferences/com.apple.LaunchServices.plist The first file corresponds to the System Administrator (root user). The second file corresponds to a normal user account (501 is my user number), and there are other similar files inside /Library/Caches/ for other users of your Mac. For example, I have also a file /Library/Caches/com.apple.LaunchServices-014504.csstore corresponding to my GF's account (as seen from the corresponding user/ group flags, using "ls -l" in Terminal). It might be nice, once a solution is found, to post it back to the MacTeX list, in case people there saw the original question and were planning to investigate. ------------------- Given the last paragraph, here I am! After moving the three files (I have only one other user and she [my wife] didn't have any special bindings outside of the defaults) noted to my Desktop (You need an administrator password to move the first two) I restarted the system. I got a message that I would have to power down and restart (I assume the missing Cache file confused the system) and after doing that everything came back. Some extra notes. I used RCDefaultApp, a very nice Preference Pane, , to change the default opening program for file extensions .tex, .cls, .clo, .sty and .dtx to TeXShop (some defaulted to AlphaX or iTeXMac) which is what I mostly use. While not fully updated for Tiger it works for changing default applications for extensions. Finally, I'm beginning to think the problem started because I set up Stuffit Expander to unstuff all possible compressed file type it knows about (I've got Stuffit Deluxe) from within its preferences. This time around I used RCDefaultApp to use Expander for .sit, .sitx files. Hopefully I can now go back to playing with Tiger. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sat May 14 12:49:53 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 18:49:53 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger Problem Solved! (I Hope) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 14 mai 05 ? 17:49, Herb Schulz a ?crit : > Finally, I'm beginning to think the problem started because I set > up Stuffit > Expander to unstuff all possible compressed file type it knows > about (I've > got Stuffit Deluxe) from within its preferences. This time around I > used > RCDefaultApp to use Expander for .sit, .sitx files. StuffIt Expander is now only necessary in Tiger for .sit and .sitx files, since BOMArchiveHelper (actually /System/Library/CoreServices/ BOMArchiveHelper.app), invoked when double-clicking on an archive file in the Finder, now expands not only .zip files, but also .tgz, .gz, .tar, .tbz and .bz2 files, and possibly other formats as well. I tried to look for details on this in Apple's developer documentation and at Apple's support site, with no luck. I also remember vaguely somebody, a couple of days ago, mentioned a Linux utility (name ending in something like "pack") for dealing with .sit and .sitx files, different from the Linux version of StuffIt Expander and compiled for OS X, but I couldn't trace this post back in all my mailboxes. Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 14 13:05:11 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 12:05:11 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger Problem Solved! (I Hope) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/14/05 11:49 AM, "Bruno Voisin" wrote: > ... > I tried to look for details on this in Apple's developer > documentation and at Apple's support site, with no luck. I also > remember vaguely somebody, a couple of days ago, mentioned a Linux > utility (name ending in something like "pack") for dealing with .sit > and .sitx files, different from the Linux version of StuffIt Expander > and compiled for OS X, but I couldn't trace this post back in all my > mailboxes. > > Bruno Howdy, This is actually very interesting since I noticed that clamav (via clamXav) will look inside .zip and .sitx archives but not .sit archives. An e-mail exchange with the author of clamXav seemed to indicate that the .sit format was possibly proprietary and that is why it wasn't included in the clamav search. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Schremmer.Alain at verizon.net Sat May 14 13:58:33 2005 From: Schremmer.Alain at verizon.net (Alain Schremmer) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 13:58:33 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Line thickness in TeXShop preview (and Preview.app) on Tiger In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <42863C49.2010605@verizon.net> Bruno Voisin wrote: > It seems that in TeXShop's preview window on Tiger (hence with > version 2.02) the thickness of lines, as produced by underlining or > in tables, varies: some lines have (what looks like) one pixel > thickness, while others have two pixels thickness. I have always had something like this. I am still using 1.35e running under 10.3.9. Some horizontal lines look sharp, some look a bit out of focus and grey. Thought t'was the way t'was spozed to be. Regards --schremmer --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sat May 14 14:01:27 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 20:01:27 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger Problem Solved! (I Hope) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2F478644-8D0A-4E9E-A346-007F873028CE@mac.com> Le 14 mai 05 ? 19:05, Herb Schulz a ?crit : > On 5/14/05 11:49 AM, "Bruno Voisin" wrote: > >> ... >> I tried to look for details on this in Apple's developer >> documentation and at Apple's support site, with no luck. I also >> remember vaguely somebody, a couple of days ago, mentioned a Linux >> utility (name ending in something like "pack") for dealing with .sit >> and .sitx files, different from the Linux version of StuffIt Expander >> and compiled for OS X, but I couldn't trace this post back in all my >> mailboxes. > > This is actually very interesting since I noticed that clamav (via > clamXav) > will look inside .zip and .sitx archives but not .sit archives. An > e-mail > exchange with the author of clamXav seemed to indicate that > the .sit format > was possibly proprietary and that is why it wasn't included in the > clamav > search. Now that you mention clamXav, I remember: the software I was thinking about was munpack, mentioned at the page on a script for having clamXav scan incoming email automatically. It turns out I had misunderstood: munpack is, rather, a utility for decoding MIME-encoded attachments. As to clamXav, after having noted that it replaces the default clamav user in Tiger by another clamav user with different characteristics, I decided to not reinstall clamXav for the moment, after a new Install & Archive of Tiger, and instead to wait for a couple of months to see whether Apple, after ditching Virex for .Mac with Tiger, will come up with a replacement in some time, and whether the default Tiger clamav user is indeed just a leftover from Tiger Server or an voluntary addition in relation to this conjectured future replacement. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 14 14:12:26 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 13:12:26 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger Problem Solved! (I Hope) In-Reply-To: <2F478644-8D0A-4E9E-A346-007F873028CE@mac.com> Message-ID: On 5/14/05 1:01 PM, "Bruno Voisin" wrote: > > Now that you mention clamXav, I remember: the software I was thinking > about was munpack, mentioned at the page tools/clamav.php> on a script for having clamXav scan incoming email > automatically. It turns out I had misunderstood: munpack is, rather, > a utility for decoding MIME-encoded attachments. > > As to clamXav, after having noted that it replaces the default clamav > user in Tiger by another clamav user with different characteristics, > I decided to not reinstall clamXav for the moment, after a new > Install & Archive of Tiger, and instead to wait for a couple of > months to see whether Apple, after ditching Virex for .Mac with > Tiger, will come up with a replacement in some time, and whether the > default Tiger clamav user is indeed just a leftover from Tiger Server > or an voluntary addition in relation to this conjectured future > replacement. > > Bruno Voisin Howdy, The latest clamXav and clamav engine at also has a user but with different shell and no password. That way there is no clamav user on the login screen. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Sat May 14 14:48:00 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 11:48:00 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Tiger Problem Solved! (I Hope) In-Reply-To: <2F478644-8D0A-4E9E-A346-007F873028CE@mac.com> References: <2F478644-8D0A-4E9E-A346-007F873028CE@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 14, 2005, at 11:01, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 14 mai 05 ? 19:05, Herb Schulz a ?crit : > > >> On 5/14/05 11:49 AM, "Bruno Voisin" wrote: >> >> >>> ... >>> I tried to look for details on this in Apple's developer >>> documentation and at Apple's support site, with no luck. I also >>> remember vaguely somebody, a couple of days ago, mentioned a Linux >>> utility (name ending in something like "pack") for dealing with .sit >>> and .sitx files, different from the Linux version of StuffIt >>> Expander >>> and compiled for OS X, but I couldn't trace this post back in all my >>> mailboxes. >>> >> >> This is actually very interesting since I noticed that clamav (via >> clamXav) >> will look inside .zip and .sitx archives but not .sit archives. An >> e-mail >> exchange with the author of clamXav seemed to indicate that >> the .sit format >> was possibly proprietary and that is why it wasn't included in the >> clamav >> search. >> > > Now that you mention clamXav, I remember: the software I was > thinking about was munpack, mentioned at the page www.creativeeyes.at/tools/clamav.php> on a script for having > clamXav scan incoming email automatically. It turns out I had > misunderstood: munpack is, rather, a utility for decoding MIME- > encoded attachments. You may have been thinking of macunpack, which unpacks old stuffit files. I think OpenUp could be modified to use the StuffIt.framework to expand .sit files, but you couldn't redistribute it. It's really annoying that StuffIt Expander needs an admin password to install, and dumps its framework in /Library/Frameworks; I wish .hqx and .sit file types would just vanish completely and obviate the need for it. Sorry, I guess that's my OT rant for the day. -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 14 15:49:04 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 14:49:04 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdf<->text synchronization Message-ID: Howdy, Now that I've moved to Tiger I've been playing with TeXShop 2.0.2 and it's pretty amazing. The synchronization between the pdf and source file is neat although I haven't tried it out with \included files yet. The ``new'' commands for moving about the pdf file will take some time to feel normal. I still have some questions and suggestions: - Is there a way to get rid of the red highlight from text->pdf synchronization when you don't need it any more? I tried putting the SyncMarks checkbox onto the pdf toolbar but that doesn't seem to do anything and I can't seem to find any documentation for it. When you do pdf->text synchronization a simple click in the text window seems to work. - I agree that we need Cmd-Left/Right Arrow to go to the ends of a line in the text window. Is there a way to have the meaning be different in a text window and a pdf window? - I've said it before but Cmd-F should bring up the Find dialogue with the Find text selected so typing puts in a new Find criterion. All in all this has gotten to be one very neat piece of software. I think it should get another award from Apple. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Sat May 14 16:00:41 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 13:00:41 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdf<->text synchronization In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9ED86EEB-3D01-4D9D-92C6-69D075AC55A7@mac.com> On May 14, 2005, at 12:49, Herb Schulz wrote: > - I agree that we need Cmd-Left/Right Arrow to go to the ends of a > line in > the text window. Is there a way to have the meaning be different in > a text > window and a pdf window? It's possible for each view to implement its own response to key events. Why not install TextExtras and modify your keybindings (if necessary) to get this in all Cocoa applications, though? -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From cmenzel at tamu.edu Sat May 14 16:13:37 2005 From: cmenzel at tamu.edu (Chris Menzel) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 15:13:37 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] gv and Tiger In-Reply-To: <730761928109beace1b8266f43c6f08d@msrce.howard.edu> References: <30C32374-7CB7-4A39-923C-32EC6CD2256E@maths.warwick.ac.uk> <6E5D9B37-1649-4A51-8461-89BFBC392709@wanadoo.fr> <730761928109beace1b8266f43c6f08d@msrce.howard.edu> Message-ID: <20050514201337.GC29594@tamu.edu> On Sat, May 14, 2005 at 01:54:08AM -0400, Aaron Jackson wrote: > PS If you don't know what shell you have copy and past the following > line in a terminal window: > > env | grep SHELL Or, to save five whole keystrokes (!): echo $SHELL :-) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no Sat May 14 16:15:02 2005 From: Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no (Jonas Wellendorf) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 20:15:02 +0000 Subject: [OS X TeX] xetex, bibdesk and bibtex? In-Reply-To: References: <0D5CA623-E37C-48A8-ACD8-12552578E4F2@mac.com> <5cc928f1f86d4bf06dc0a295a9d47b53@cms.uib.no> <1BCD4211-A997-46E6-94B7-9BF4C3D8F650@mac.com> Message-ID: P? 14. mai. 2005 kl. 14.26 skrev Adam R. Maxwell: >>>>> I use bibdesk and texshop (newest versions for OS X 10.3). I have >>>>> no problems with the combination latex+bibtex but when I use the >>>>> combination xelatex+bibtex the characters ? and ? [quotationmarks] >>>>> and ? [m-dash] in my bibliography appear as ``, '' and -- in the >>>>> typeset pdf-file. >>>>> On my (Norwegian) keyboard I enter these characters as [alt+n], >>>>> [alt+m] and [alt+-]. >>>>> >>>>> How should I enter these characters to get the expected output? I >>>>> would like to use the same bibtex database for botht ypes of >>>>> documents. >>>>> >>>>> I use the UFT-8 encoding in bibdesk. >>>>> >> > You can uncheck the "Convert accented characters to TeX when > exporting or pasting BibTeX" checkbox in BibDesk's Files preferences > (where you change the encoding). If you're using XeLaTeX, you have no > need for this feature. > > -- > Adam > > Brilliant! Thank you, Jonas --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From alain.matthes at mac.com Sat May 14 16:39:32 2005 From: alain.matthes at mac.com (Alain Matthes) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:39:32 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TextMate and pdftricks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9812AE86-83B4-494C-B806-D123D537FC39@mac.com> Le 14 mai 05 ? 13:47, Herb Schulz a ?crit : > On 5/14/05 12:21 AM, "Alain Matthes" wrote: > > >> >> In Command Output i've : >> >> 1: latex : command not found >> and in the log >> sh: line 1: latex: command not found >> rm: graphe-fig1.aux: No such file or directory >> rm: graphe-fig1.dvi: No such file or directory >> >> is it possible to use pdftricks with textmate ? >> >> Alain Matthes >> > > Howdy, > > This sounds like a PATH problem. I'm not a user of TextMate so I > don't know > how it runs shell scripts but TeXShop, etc., are careful to make > sure the > PATH variable is properly set. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest.com) > > > Thanks Yes it was a path problem ! After the update 10.3.9 -> 10.4, the file /etc/profile was a new one :( Alain Matthes --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Sat May 14 16:56:35 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 22:56:35 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [Ii2-announce] New TeX i-Package (small update) Message-ID: The *EXPERIMENTAL* i-Directory has an updated TeX i-Package with a fix for the manpath change in Tiger. It also has a changed TeX4ht environment file. TeX4ht, btw, is somewhat troublesome to keep track of so I am probably going to drop support for it. It will still be part of my distribution, but errors and problems I will not work on anymore because it is taking too much of my time. And this also means that probably the only setup that has a working TeX4ht is the most recent setup (these days the TL2005 setup). G _______________________________________________ Ii2-announce mailing list Ii2-announce at mail.rna.nl http://mail.rna.nl/mailman/listinfo/ii2-announce --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From beesley at wanadoo.fr Sat May 14 17:31:08 2005 From: beesley at wanadoo.fr (Kenneth Beesley) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 23:31:08 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TIPA Problem, 10.3.9 Message-ID: <701a8d9e4189f59cb83d84373dbfca37@wanadoo.fr> TIPA Problem 10.3.9 I seem to be having problems with the TIPA package (problems I hadn't noticed before--I've used TIPA a lot in the past). I'm running OS X 10.3.9 and pdflatex 3.141592-1.20a-2.2(Web2C 7.5.3). I installed 10.3.9 fairly recently, and I used i-Installer to re-install TeX before giving up. Sample source file (tipatest.tex). The problem line is the one with \textipa{sWpawlaBi} \documentclass[a4paper,10pt]{article} \usepackage{times} \usepackage{tipa} \title{This is a Title} \author{Kenneth R.~Beesley} \begin{document} \maketitle \section{Introduction} This is a test \textipa{sWpawlaBi} of the system. \end{document} When pdflatex is run on this little file, I get the following output complaining about the inability to make xipa10.600pk, and the resulting PDF file is unreadable. Very sorry to bother you with this. Any advice would be much appreciated. Ken [titania:~/deseret/papers/tipatest] beesley% make pdflatex tipatest This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) output format initialized to PDF entering extended mode (./tipatest.tex LaTeX2e <2003/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, d utch, italian, norsk, portuges, spanish, swedish, nohyphenation, loaded. (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/psnfss/times.sty) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/latex/tipa/tipa.sty (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/latex/tipa/t3enc.def (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/psnfss/ot1phv.fd)) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/ot1enc.def))) No file tipatest.aux. (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/latex/tipa/t3cmr.fd) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/psnfss/ot1ptm.fd) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/latex/tipa/t3ptm.fd) [1{/usr/local/teTe X/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}] (./tipatest.aux)kpathse a: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 xipa10 mktexpk: Mismatched mode ljfour and resolution 600; ignoring mode. mktexpk: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1+0/600; nonstopmode; input xipa10 This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.3) (Fatal base file error; I'm stymied) grep: xipa10.log: No such file or directory mktexpk: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1+0/600; nonstopmode; input xipa10' failed to make xipa10.600pk. kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. ) Warning: pdflatex (file xipa10): Font xipa10 at 600 not found {/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/enc/dvips/psnfss/8r.enc} Output written on tipatest.pdf (1 page, 22360 bytes). Transcript written on tipatest.log. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From chugg at usc.edu Sat May 14 17:40:42 2005 From: chugg at usc.edu (Keith M. Chugg) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 14:40:42 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdf<->text synchronization In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >lthough I haven't tried it out with \included files yet. This hasn't worked for me. I use \input{.} and it does not seem to synch with any of the pdf/text in the root file or below. If it is a single file it works great. > >- I've said it before but Cmd-F should bring up the Find dialogue with the >Find text selected so typing puts in a new Find criterion. I posted the same desire... --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 14 17:48:59 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 16:48:59 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdf<->text synchronization In-Reply-To: <9ED86EEB-3D01-4D9D-92C6-69D075AC55A7@mac.com> Message-ID: On 5/14/05 3:00 PM, "Adam R. Maxwell" wrote: > > On May 14, 2005, at 12:49, Herb Schulz wrote: > >> - I agree that we need Cmd-Left/Right Arrow to go to the ends of a >> line in >> the text window. Is there a way to have the meaning be different in >> a text >> window and a pdf window? > > It's possible for each view to implement its own response to key > events. Why not install TextExtras and modify your keybindings (if > necessary) to get this in all Cocoa applications, though? > > -- > Adam Howdy, I think it's already pretty standard in text oriented Cocoa applications for Cmd-Left/Right Arrow to take you to the end of the line. I've actually used one keybinding from TextExtras to implement Opt(alt)-V to be a page backward with cursor movement (a-la emacs) since Ctl-V is already there in Cocoa for page forward with cursor movement. Of course there are already other emacs-like key bindings in Cocoa but I tend not to use them; too used to Mac after 15 years away from UNIX. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 14 17:52:46 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 16:52:46 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TextMate and pdftricks In-Reply-To: <9812AE86-83B4-494C-B806-D123D537FC39@mac.com> Message-ID: On 5/14/05 3:39 PM, "Alain Matthes" wrote: > > Thanks > > Yes it was a path problem ! After the update 10.3.9 -> 10.4, the > file /etc/profile was a new one :( > > Alain Matthes > Howdy, Yes, I think I mentioned earlier, that I ran the configuration stages for the Ghostscript and TeX i-packages (CLI part only in the latter - but other non-destructive things did happen) to get them properly back. I'm not about to put back the neat stuff Gerben does. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sat May 14 18:04:24 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 17:04:24 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TIPA Problem, 10.3.9 In-Reply-To: <701a8d9e4189f59cb83d84373dbfca37@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: On 5/14/05 4:31 PM, "Kenneth Beesley" wrote: > TIPA Problem 10.3.9 > > I seem to be having problems with the TIPA package (problems I > hadn't noticed before--I've used TIPA a lot in the past). > I'm running OS X 10.3.9 and pdflatex 3.141592-1.20a-2.2(Web2C 7.5.3). > I installed 10.3.9 fairly recently, and I used i-Installer to > re-install TeX > before giving up. > > Sample source file (tipatest.tex). The problem line is the > one > with \textipa{sWpawlaBi} > > \documentclass[a4paper,10pt]{article} > > \usepackage{times} > \usepackage{tipa} > > \title{This is a Title} > > \author{Kenneth R.~Beesley} > > \begin{document} > \maketitle > > \section{Introduction} > > This is a test > \textipa{sWpawlaBi} > of the system. > > \end{document} > > > When pdflatex is run on this little file, I get the following output > complaining about the inability to make xipa10.600pk, and the > resulting PDF file is unreadable. > > Very sorry to bother you with this. Any advice would be much > appreciated. > > Ken > > > > [titania:~/deseret/papers/tipatest] beesley% make > pdflatex tipatest > This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) > output format initialized to PDF > entering extended mode > (./tipatest.tex > LaTeX2e <2003/12/01> > Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, > ngerman, d > utch, italian, norsk, portuges, spanish, swedish, nohyphenation, loaded. > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/article.cls > Document Class: article 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/psnfss/times.sty) > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/latex/tipa/tipa.sty > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/fontenc.sty > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/latex/tipa/t3enc.def > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/psnfss/ot1phv.fd)) > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/ot1enc.def))) > No file tipatest.aux. > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/latex/tipa/t3cmr.fd) > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/psnfss/ot1ptm.fd) > (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/latex/tipa/t3ptm.fd) > [1{/usr/local/teTe > X/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map}] > (./tipatest.aux)kpathse > a: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 xipa10 > mktexpk: Mismatched mode ljfour and resolution 600; ignoring mode. > mktexpk: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1+0/600; > nonstopmode; > input xipa10 > This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.3) > (Fatal base file error; I'm stymied) > grep: xipa10.log: No such file or directory > mktexpk: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1+0/600; > nonstopmode; input > xipa10' failed to make xipa10.600pk. > kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. > ) > Warning: pdflatex (file xipa10): Font xipa10 at 600 not found > {/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/enc/dvips/psnfss/8r.enc} usr/local/t > eTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/type1/urw/times/utmb8a.pfb> teTeX/share > /texmf.tetex/fonts/type1/urw/times/utmr8a.pfb> > Output written on tipatest.pdf (1 page, 22360 bytes). > Transcript written on tipatest.log. > Howdy, I believe that the tipa type 1 fonts are not enabled by default although they are present in (at least a recent) gwTeX. To enable the fonts go into Terminal and run the command sudo updmap --enable MAP=tipa.map and then your administrator password. After that run sudo texhash for safety although I don't think it really needs it. Hope that helps. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From matsoukas at adelphia.net Sat May 14 20:25:12 2005 From: matsoukas at adelphia.net (Themis Matsoukas) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 20:25:12 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] find in texshop - wishlist Message-ID: <2f963cd9d7dc7b591325c9a62db66f0d@adelphia.net> 1. When I search in Texshop for a string, I hit apple-F and start typing the string. The Find panel, however, remembers the last string and *appends* the typing to the old string. It would be better if the find panel opened with the old string *selected* so that any new typing writes over the old. 2. The highlight color changes the highlight (of course) but also the color of the font of the search string. The font color reverts to black after relaunching texshop. 3. It would be nice if Find would automatically switch to "Scope Selection", if some text is already selected. 4. Could we change "Less Options" to "Fewer Options"? Themis --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gray at engr.psu.edu Sat May 14 21:29:21 2005 From: gray at engr.psu.edu (Gary L. Gray) Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 21:29:21 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdf<->text synchronization In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 14, 2005, at 5:40 PM, Keith M. Chugg wrote: > > >> lthough I haven't tried it out with \included files yet. >> > > This hasn't worked for me. I use \input{.} and it does not seem to > synch with any of the pdf/text in the root file or below. If it is > a single file it works great. I have reported the same problem to him. You should also send this directly to Dick so that it doesn't get lost and so that he knows I am not the only one. :-) -- Gary --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From beesley at wanadoo.fr Sun May 15 04:58:15 2005 From: beesley at wanadoo.fr (Kenneth Beesley) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 10:58:15 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TIPA Problem, 10.3.9 Message-ID: On 5/14/05 4:31 PM, "Kenneth Beesley" wrote: > > > I seem to be having problems with the TIPA package I get the > following output > complaining about the inability to make xipa10.600pk, and the > resulting PDF file is unreadable. > On 14 May 2005 17:04:24 -0500 Herb Schulz responded. I believe that the tipa type 1 fonts are not enabled by default although they are present in (at least a recent) gwTeX. To enable the fonts go into Terminal and run the command sudo updmap --enable MAP=tipa.map and then your administrator password. After that run sudo texhash End Quote. Herb, Many thanks for your help. Your incantation didn't quite work for me, but I searched and found some similar advice from Gerben, namely to invoke sudo updmap --enable MixedMap tipa.map And that did the trick. I'm back in business. Thanks again. This list is great. Ken --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From dominique.thillaud at wanadoo.fr Sun May 15 05:16:29 2005 From: dominique.thillaud at wanadoo.fr (Dominique Thillaud) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 11:16:29 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [ab]use of listings' package ? Message-ID: <05A33816-C522-11D9-BE61-00039372C378@wanadoo.fr> Hi all, Not being a specialist, I've tried to use the command literate of the package listings to simplify the production of texts in Sanskrit. I use a standard romanization of this language (to easily cut and paste from numerized texts) but I need uppercase letters for the names of Gods or Heroes in my French text. Alas, I've a lot of unexpected spaces in the .pdf and, worst, apparently randomly : For example, a group "paap" (two consonants and a long 'a') will produce sometimes 'pap', sometimes 'p ap' and sometimes 'pa p' (with macron a, of course). Too strange, I'm puzzled. Where is my bug ? Thanks in advance, Dominique Here, an extract of my package (I know my style in LaTeX is tremendous, as my English) : \ProvidesPackage{menegos}[2005/01/16 v1.0 textes de recherche] \DeclareOption*{\PassOptionsToClass{\CurrentOption}{book}} \ProcessOptions\relax % toutes transmises ? la classe book \RequirePackage[latin1]{inputenc} \RequirePackage[cyr]{aeguill} % gabo \RequirePackage{xspace} % gabo \RequirePackage{a4wide} \RequirePackage{listings} \RequirePackage{tipa} \RequirePackage[english,polutonikogreek,francais]{babel} \RequirePackage{graphicx} \RequirePackage{url} \RequirePackage{pstricks} \RequirePackage{pst-tree} \RequirePackage{array} \RequirePackage{multirow} %.......... %% Pour le sanskrit %% D?finition du langage \lstdefinelanguage{sanskrit}{% escapechar=?,% mathescape=true,% basicstyle=\itshape,% stringstyle=\upshape,% commentstyle=\normalfont,% showspaces=false,% literate=% % voyelles longues {aa}{\={a}}{1} {ii}{\={\i}}{1} {uu}{\={u}}{1}% {AA}{\={A}}{1} {II}{\={I}}{1} {UU}{\={U}}{1}% % caract?res sp?ciaux montr?s par des majuscules {D}{\textsubdot{d}}{1} {G}{\.{n}}{1} {H}{\textsubdot{h}}{1}% {J}{\~{n}}{1} {M}{\.{m}}{1} {N}{\textsubdot{n}}{1}% {R}{\textsubring{r}}{1} {S}{\textsubdot{s}}{1} {T}{\textsubdot{t}}{1}% % sifflante gutturale {z}{\'{s}}{1} {Z}{\'{S}}{1}% % remplacement des majuscules us?es par les caract?res sp?ciaux {DD}{D}{1} {GG}{G}{1} {HH}{H}{1}% {JJ}{J}{1} {MM}{M}{1} {NN}{N}{1}% {RR}{R}{1} {SS}{S}{1} {TT}{T}{1}% % majuscules des caract?res sp?ciaux ? l'initiale {DDD}{\textsubdot{D}}{1} {RRR}{\textsubring{R}}{1}% {SSS}{\textsubdot{S}}{1} {TTT}{\textsubdot{T}}{1}% % caract?res sp?ciaux doubl?s (? l'int?rieur) {DDDD}{\textsubdot{d}\textsubdot{d}}{2}% {NNNN}{\textsubdot{n}\textsubdot{n}}{2}% {TTTT}{\textsubdot{t}\textsubdot{t}}{2}% % pour le v?dique (accents simples) {'a}{\'{a}}{1} {'i}{\'{\i}}{1} {'u}{\'{u}}{1}% {'e}{\'{e}}{1} {'o}{\'{o}}{1}% {'aa}{\textacutemacron{a}}{1}% {'ii}{\textacutemacron{\i}}{1}% {'uu}{\textacutemacron{u}}{1},% string=[d]||% }[comments,strings]% %% Commandes d'?criture \newcommand{\skr}[1]{% italiques (sanskrit seul) \lstset{language=sanskrit}% \lstinline!#1!} \newcommand{\upskr}[1]{% romains (noms propres dans un texte fran?ais) \lstset{language=sanskrit,basicstyle=\upshape}% \lstinline!#1!} \newcommand{\slskr}[1]{% pench?s (noms propres dans une traduction} \lstset{language=sanskrit,basicstyle=\slshape}% \lstinline!#1!} \newcommand{\bskr}[1]{{\large\textbf{\skr{#1}}}}% titres \newcounter{parag} \newcommand{\tskr}[1]{% paragraphes \stepcounter{parag}% \vspace{\baselineskip} \noindent{\large\textbf{\theparag~-~\skr{#1}}}\\} --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From dominique.thillaud at wanadoo.fr Sun May 15 05:16:29 2005 From: dominique.thillaud at wanadoo.fr (Dominique Thillaud) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 11:16:29 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [ab]use of listings' package ? Message-ID: <05A33816-C522-11D9-BE61-00039372C378@wanadoo.fr> Hi all, Not being a specialist, I've tried to use the command literate of the package listings to simplify the production of texts in Sanskrit. I use a standard romanization of this language (to easily cut and paste from numerized texts) but I need uppercase letters for the names of Gods or Heroes in my French text. Alas, I've a lot of unexpected spaces in the .pdf and, worst, apparently randomly : For example, a group "paap" (two consonants and a long 'a') will produce sometimes 'pap', sometimes 'p ap' and sometimes 'pa p' (with macron a, of course). Too strange, I'm puzzled. Where is my bug ? Thanks in advance, Dominique Here, an extract of my package (I know my style in LaTeX is tremendous, as my English) : \ProvidesPackage{menegos}[2005/01/16 v1.0 textes de recherche] \DeclareOption*{\PassOptionsToClass{\CurrentOption}{book}} \ProcessOptions\relax % toutes transmises ? la classe book \RequirePackage[latin1]{inputenc} \RequirePackage[cyr]{aeguill} % gabo \RequirePackage{xspace} % gabo \RequirePackage{a4wide} \RequirePackage{listings} \RequirePackage{tipa} \RequirePackage[english,polutonikogreek,francais]{babel} \RequirePackage{graphicx} \RequirePackage{url} \RequirePackage{pstricks} \RequirePackage{pst-tree} \RequirePackage{array} \RequirePackage{multirow} %.......... %% Pour le sanskrit %% D?finition du langage \lstdefinelanguage{sanskrit}{% escapechar=?,% mathescape=true,% basicstyle=\itshape,% stringstyle=\upshape,% commentstyle=\normalfont,% showspaces=false,% literate=% % voyelles longues {aa}{\={a}}{1} {ii}{\={\i}}{1} {uu}{\={u}}{1}% {AA}{\={A}}{1} {II}{\={I}}{1} {UU}{\={U}}{1}% % caract?res sp?ciaux montr?s par des majuscules {D}{\textsubdot{d}}{1} {G}{\.{n}}{1} {H}{\textsubdot{h}}{1}% {J}{\~{n}}{1} {M}{\.{m}}{1} {N}{\textsubdot{n}}{1}% {R}{\textsubring{r}}{1} {S}{\textsubdot{s}}{1} {T}{\textsubdot{t}}{1}% % sifflante gutturale {z}{\'{s}}{1} {Z}{\'{S}}{1}% % remplacement des majuscules us?es par les caract?res sp?ciaux {DD}{D}{1} {GG}{G}{1} {HH}{H}{1}% {JJ}{J}{1} {MM}{M}{1} {NN}{N}{1}% {RR}{R}{1} {SS}{S}{1} {TT}{T}{1}% % majuscules des caract?res sp?ciaux ? l'initiale {DDD}{\textsubdot{D}}{1} {RRR}{\textsubring{R}}{1}% {SSS}{\textsubdot{S}}{1} {TTT}{\textsubdot{T}}{1}% % caract?res sp?ciaux doubl?s (? l'int?rieur) {DDDD}{\textsubdot{d}\textsubdot{d}}{2}% {NNNN}{\textsubdot{n}\textsubdot{n}}{2}% {TTTT}{\textsubdot{t}\textsubdot{t}}{2}% % pour le v?dique (accents simples) {'a}{\'{a}}{1} {'i}{\'{\i}}{1} {'u}{\'{u}}{1}% {'e}{\'{e}}{1} {'o}{\'{o}}{1}% {'aa}{\textacutemacron{a}}{1}% {'ii}{\textacutemacron{\i}}{1}% {'uu}{\textacutemacron{u}}{1},% string=[d]||% }[comments,strings]% %% Commandes d'?criture \newcommand{\skr}[1]{% italiques (sanskrit seul) \lstset{language=sanskrit}% \lstinline!#1!} \newcommand{\upskr}[1]{% romains (noms propres dans un texte fran?ais) \lstset{language=sanskrit,basicstyle=\upshape}% \lstinline!#1!} \newcommand{\slskr}[1]{% pench?s (noms propres dans une traduction} \lstset{language=sanskrit,basicstyle=\slshape}% \lstinline!#1!} \newcommand{\bskr}[1]{{\large\textbf{\skr{#1}}}}% titres \newcounter{parag} \newcommand{\tskr}[1]{% paragraphes \stepcounter{parag}% \vspace{\baselineskip} \noindent{\large\textbf{\theparag~-~\skr{#1}}}\\} --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sun May 15 08:29:17 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 07:29:17 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: TIPA Problem, 10.3.9 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/15/05 3:58 AM, "Kenneth Beesley" wrote: > Herb, > > Many thanks for your help. Your incantation didn't quite work for me, > but I searched and found some similar advice from Gerben, namely to > invoke > > sudo updmap --enable MixedMap tipa.map > > And that did the trick. I'm back in business. > > Thanks again. This list is great. > > Ken Howdy, Hmmm... I didn't realize that the tipa font was only partially translated into type1 and some left as bit maps. Glad at least I got you going in the right direction. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sun May 15 10:02:12 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 16:02:12 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] A working version of emacs (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20050511150344.50507.qmail@web53104.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050511150344.50507.qmail@web53104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <775716c596598a00692d68784d5fa709@Web.DE> Am 11.05.2005 um 17:03 schrieb mark oilcan: > X11 versions of xemacs are most easily installed via fink or > darwinports, but there's also a beta carbon version available here: > http://members.shaw.ca/akochoi-xemacs/index.html > XEmacs works indeed much better! From the first start a few packages are missing: uniquify to convert .emacs to init.el (because of too much customization done?), efs for package management, and I don't know what else. I couldn't find a way to change the font size or create a font set for even better Unicode support ... -- Greetings Pete How many Microsoft engineers does it take to screw in a lightbulb? None. They just redefine "dark" as the new standard. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From eriboni at ozone.ch Sun May 15 11:13:16 2005 From: eriboni at ozone.ch (Riboni Enrico) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:13:16 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Texshop: strange problem with French letter Message-ID: Since I upgraded to Tiger, I cannot use any more iTeXMac, which has some incompatibility issues. So I reverted to use TeXShop, who has indeed drammatically improved. I have a strange problem: when typing "?" ("C c?dille" in French, I do not think this is used in other languages, forgive my ignorance), I do not get "?" but "\c c". Would anybody have any idea why this happens, and how to work around/correct this ? At the moment the only way I found to keep writing is to write the "?" in another application such as Mail, then copy/paste. Enrico Riboni www.ozone.ch/enrico/ --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sun May 15 11:17:31 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 17:17:31 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Texshop: strange problem with French letter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1EC96E18-CC0F-4AC8-8050-BB67489C3CF4@xs4all.nl> On 15 May 2005, at 17:13, Riboni Enrico wrote: > I have a strange problem: when typing "?" ("C c?dille" in French, I > do not think this is used in other languages, forgive my > ignorance), I do not get "?" but "\c c". Would anybody have any > idea why this happens, and how to work around/correct this ? At the > moment the only way I found to keep writing is to write the "?" in > another application such as Mail, then copy/paste. Preferences: Document. Uncheck "Auto Complete". By default TeXShop will replace many "foreign" characters with their 7-bit TeX/ASCII encoding equivalents. Maarten--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Sun May 15 11:19:57 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 08:19:57 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Texshop: strange problem with French letter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 15, 2005, at 08:13, Riboni Enrico wrote: > Since I upgraded to Tiger, I cannot use any more iTeXMac, which has > some incompatibility issues. I'm curious: what problems have you encountered? I've been using it successfully (when I have time to write anything). -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Sun May 15 11:27:07 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 10:27:07 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Texshop: strange problem with French letter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/15/05 10:13 AM, "Riboni Enrico" wrote: > Since I upgraded to Tiger, I cannot use any more iTeXMac, which has > some incompatibility issues. > > So I reverted to use TeXShop, who has indeed drammatically improved. > > I have a strange problem: when typing "?" ("C c?dille" in French, I > do not think this is used in other languages, forgive my ignorance), > I do not get "?" but "\c c". Would anybody have any idea why this > happens, and how to work around/correct this ? At the moment the only > way I found to keep writing is to write the "?" in another > application such as Mail, then copy/paste. > > Enrico Riboni > www.ozone.ch/enrico/ > Howdy, Go into Document Tab of Preferences and uncheck Auto Complete. That completely turns off the Auto Completion (as opposed to Command Completion, which is something totally different) for the keyboard. If you want to retain some of the Auto Completion features (e.g., typing ^ gives you ^{} with the any selection and the insertion point placed between the braces unless the ^ is preceded by a \) you'll have to edit the ~/Library/TeXShop/Keyboard/autocompletion.plist file. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From tristan.lorino at wanadoo.fr Sun May 15 12:04:28 2005 From: tristan.lorino at wanadoo.fr (Tristan (Paris)) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 18:04:28 +0200 Subject: iTeXMac (was [OS X TeX] Texshop: strange) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6D3C6049-0937-476B-9993-18C0E4E0CDAB@wanadoo.fr> Le 15 mai 05 ? 17:19, Adam R. Maxwell a ?crit : > I'm curious: what problems have you encountered? I've been using > it successfully (when I have time to write anything). > > -- > > Strange behaviour of the editor (fonts problem) and incapicity of the pdf viewer to show pdf in their all, since Tiger... I also use again TeXShop insteed of iTeXMac. Tristan --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Sun May 15 12:23:53 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 09:23:53 -0700 Subject: iTeXMac (was [OS X TeX] Texshop: strange) In-Reply-To: <6D3C6049-0937-476B-9993-18C0E4E0CDAB@wanadoo.fr> References: <6D3C6049-0937-476B-9993-18C0E4E0CDAB@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <171F9CA4-1B22-4204-B7CE-44F6CBC66D23@mac.com> On May 15, 2005, at 09:04, Tristan (Paris) wrote: > Strange behaviour of the editor (fonts problem) and incapicity of > the pdf viewer to show pdf in their all, since Tiger... I also use > again TeXShop insteed of iTeXMac. Not sure what the fonts problem is; I use Monaco 10, and it seems fine, but I have some custom spacing settings. I see the pdf problem now. I've been using TeXniscope as a viewer, so didn't notice that one. -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From eric.van-der-oord at wanadoo.fr Sun May 15 13:05:51 2005 From: eric.van-der-oord at wanadoo.fr (Eric van der Oord) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 19:05:51 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Texshop: strange problem with French letter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1DB1461B-134F-444C-8C83-CB65356AF84B@wanadoo.fr> What kind of issues ? I haven't yet noticed any problem... Eric Le 15 mai 05 ? 17:13, Riboni Enrico a ?crit : > Since I upgraded to Tiger, I cannot use any more iTeXMac, which has > some incompatibility issues. > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lists at juliensalort.org Sun May 15 13:17:25 2005 From: lists at juliensalort.org (Julien Salort) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 19:17:25 +0200 Subject: iTeXMac (was [OS X TeX] Texshop: strange) In-Reply-To: <6D3C6049-0937-476B-9993-18C0E4E0CDAB@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <1gwmaw5.1bxm8nr383j5aM%lists@juliensalort.org> Tristan (Paris) wrote: > Strange behaviour of the editor (fonts problem) and incapicity of the > pdf viewer to show pdf in their all, since Tiger... I also use again > TeXShop insteed of iTeXMac. I've noticed the font problem too. There is far too much space between the letters. -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on a mailing list? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From eric.van-der-oord at wanadoo.fr Sun May 15 13:53:32 2005 From: eric.van-der-oord at wanadoo.fr (Eric van der Oord) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 19:53:32 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Texshop: strange problem with French letter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10CA7CB9-F83D-4624-8470-E17DD013AEC0@wanadoo.fr> Now I see the issue ! I had not typeset multipage documents... Eric Le 15 mai 05 ? 17:13, Riboni Enrico a ?crit : > Since I upgraded to Tiger, I cannot use any more iTeXMac, which has > some incompatibility issues. > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From eriboni at ozone.ch Sun May 15 16:55:28 2005 From: eriboni at ozone.ch (Riboni Enrico) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:55:28 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Texshop: strange problem with French letter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9B57AC69-170D-4F20-A493-9821347B8C77@ozone.ch> Le 15 mai 05 ? 17:19, Adam R. Maxwell a ?crit : > > On May 15, 2005, at 08:13, Riboni Enrico wrote: > > >> Since I upgraded to Tiger, I cannot use any more iTeXMac, which >> has some incompatibility issues. >> > > I'm curious: what problems have you encountered? I've been using > it successfully (when I have time to write anything). Actually 2 things: - Editor: caracter spacing is strange (it looks like al characters are double spaced) - PDF viewer: sometimes opens OK, then the window turns black. I read that other people had the same problems, so I confess I gave up, maybe too fast. Enrico Riboni www.ozone.ch/enrico/--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From eriboni at ozone.ch Sun May 15 16:58:29 2005 From: eriboni at ozone.ch (Riboni Enrico) Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:58:29 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Texshop: strange problem with French letter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <252B87A4-61D7-4048-A2CD-B52FA57657CF@ozone.ch> Le 15 mai 05 ? 17:27, Herb Schulz a ?crit : > Go into Document Tab of Preferences and uncheck Auto Complete. That > completely turns off the Auto Completion (as opposed to Command > Completion, > which is something totally different) for the keyboard. > > If you want to retain some of the Auto Completion features (e.g., > typing ^ > gives you ^{} with the any selection and the insertion point placed > between > the braces unless the ^ is preceded by a \) you'll have to edit the > ~/Library/TeXShop/Keyboard/autocompletion.plist file. Thank you very much for all the replies. Enrico Riboni http://www.ozone.ch/enrico/ --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From vmcgarry at austin.rr.com Mon May 16 02:05:18 2005 From: vmcgarry at austin.rr.com (Vince McGarry) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 01:05:18 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Undesired Rotated Figure in PSTricks Message-ID: Hi, I'm having a problem that I think may be related to dvips. Rotations are occurring that I can neither explain nor fix. I am enclosing a few files with comments. My desire is to get things working again with Herb Schulz's version of ps4pdf, however the rotation problem seems to even affect the display in TeXShop's pdf viewer when compiling with latex-dvips-gs. I seem to remember a discussion about this a while back, but can't find it. Vince McGarry This is a test file for TeX and Ghostscript. This compiles correctly, but the whole document ends up rotated in the previewer. Of course, this can be corrected with the rotate menu item. The keyboard shortcut for rotating the pdf doesn't seem to work for me. %--------- \documentclass[11pt]{article} \usepackage{multido} \usepackage{pstricks} \usepackage{pst-node} \begin{document} \newcommand{\Salary}[1]{#1} \begin{pspicture}(1.5,-2.5)(10.5,3.5) \psline(2,0)(10,0) \multido{\iA=2+1}{9}{ \psline(\iA,-0.2)(\iA,0.2) \uput{24pt}[-90]{90}(\iA,0.5){\Salary{\iA}} } \end{pspicture} \begin{pspicture}(1.5,-2.5)(10.5,3.5) \psline(2,0)(10,0) \multido{\iA=2+1}{9}{ \psline(\iA,-0.2)(\iA,0.2) \uput{24pt}[-90]{90}(\iA,0.5){\Salary{\iA}} } \psline(2.5,0.8)(2.5,1.2) \psline(9,0.8)(9,1.2) \psline(4,2.3)(4,2.7) \psline(8,2.3)(8,2.7) \psline(2.5,1)(9,1) \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](3.5,0.5) (5,1.5) \psline(4,0.5)(4,1.5) \psline(4,2.5)(8,2.5) \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](4.5,2)(6.5,3) \psline(5.5,2)(5.5,3) \pcline[linestyle=none](6.5,2.5)(8,2.5) \bput{0}{Opera} \pcline[linestyle=none](5,1)(9,1) \bput{0}{Country} \end{pspicture} \renewcommand{\Salary}[1]{#10,000} \begin{pspicture}(1.5,-2.5)(10.5,3.5) \psline(2,0)(10,0) \multido{\iA=2+1}{9}{ \psline(\iA,-0.2)(\iA,0.2) \uput{24pt}[-90]{90}(\iA,0.5){\Salary{\iA}} } \psline(2.5,0.8)(2.5,1.2) \psline(9,0.8)(9,1.2) \psline(4,2.3)(4,2.7) \psline(8,2.3)(8,2.7) \psline(2.5,1)(9,1) \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](3.5,0.5) (5,1.5) \psline(4,0.5)(4,1.5) \psline(4,2.5)(8,2.5) \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](4.5,2)(6.5,3) \psline(5.5,2)(5.5,3) \pcline[linestyle=none](6.5,2.5)(8,2.5) \bput{0}{Opera} \pcline[linestyle=none](5,1)(9,1) \bput{0}{Country} \end{pspicture} \end{document} %--------- This is the same file but for ps4pdf. Herb Schulz's script (thanks again, Herb---it's worked beautifully) compiles the document twice: the first time to create a pdf file with the pictures; the second time to create the pdf file. Herb informs me that he tried this with pdftricks, as well, with the same result. Some of these are rotated, some are not. The log clearly says so! This from the end of the log: [1{/usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.local/fonts/m ap/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map} <./Graph_Test-pics.pdf, page is rotated 90 degrees > <./Graph_Test-pics.pdf>] [2 <./Graph_Test-pics.pdf, page is rotated 90 degree s>] (./Graph_Test.aux) ) Output written on Graph_Test.pdf (2 pages, 13599 bytes). Transcript written on Graph_Test.log. Here's the file. %--------- \documentclass[11pt]{article} \usepackage{ps4pdf} \usepackage{multido} \PSforPDF{% \usepackage{pstricks} \usepackage{pst-node} } \begin{document} \newcommand{\Salary}[1]{#1} \PSforPDF{% \begin{pspicture}(1.5,-2.5)(10.5,3.5) \psline(2,0)(10,0) \multido{\iA=2+1}{9}{ \psline(\iA,-0.2)(\iA,0.2) \uput{24pt}[-90]{90}(\iA,0.5){\Salary{\iA}} } \end{pspicture} } \PSforPDF{% \begin{pspicture}(1.5,-2.5)(10.5,3.5) \psline(2,0)(10,0) \multido{\iA=2+1}{9}{ \psline(\iA,-0.2)(\iA,0.2) \uput{24pt}[-90]{90}(\iA,0.5){\Salary{\iA}} } \psline(2.5,0.8)(2.5,1.2) \psline(9,0.8)(9,1.2) \psline(4,2.3)(4,2.7) \psline(8,2.3)(8,2.7) \psline(2.5,1)(9,1) \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](3.5,0.5) (5,1.5) \psline(4,0.5)(4,1.5) \psline(4,2.5)(8,2.5) \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](4.5,2)(6.5,3) \psline(5.5,2)(5.5,3) \pcline[linestyle=none](6.5,2.5)(8,2.5) \bput{0}{Opera} \pcline[linestyle=none](5,1)(9,1) \bput{0}{Country} \end{pspicture} } \renewcommand{\Salary}[1]{#10,000} \PSforPDF{% \begin{pspicture}(1.5,-2.5)(10.5,3.5) \psline(2,0)(10,0) \multido{\iA=2+1}{9}{ \psline(\iA,-0.2)(\iA,0.2) \uput{24pt}[-90]{90}(\iA,0.5){\Salary{\iA}} } \psline(2.5,0.8)(2.5,1.2) \psline(9,0.8)(9,1.2) \psline(4,2.3)(4,2.7) \psline(8,2.3)(8,2.7) \psline(2.5,1)(9,1) \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](3.5,0.5) (5,1.5) \psline(4,0.5)(4,1.5) \psline(4,2.5)(8,2.5) \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](4.5,2)(6.5,3) \psline(5.5,2)(5.5,3) \pcline[linestyle=none](6.5,2.5)(8,2.5) \bput{0}{Opera} \pcline[linestyle=none](5,1)(9,1) \bput{0}{Country} \end{pspicture} } \end{document} --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lp15 at cam.ac.uk Mon May 16 04:15:25 2005 From: lp15 at cam.ac.uk (Lawrence Paulson) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:15:25 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: find in texshop - wishlist In-Reply-To: <32013.3359@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <32013.3359@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: I'd like to second requests 1 and 4. On the other hand, 3 would end the common practice of selecting a search string to paste into the Find box. Larry Paulson On 16 May 2005, at 01:00, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List wrote: > Subject: find in texshop - wishlist > From: "Themis Matsoukas" > Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 20:25:12 -0400 > > 1. When I search in Texshop for a string, I hit apple-F and start > typing the string. The Find panel, however, remembers the last string > and *appends* the typing to the old string. It would be better if the > find panel opened with the old string *selected* so that any new > typing > writes over the old. > > > 3. It would be nice if Find would automatically switch to "Scope > Selection", if some text is already selected. > > 4. Could we change "Less Options" to "Fewer Options"? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Mon May 16 04:32:17 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:32:17 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: find in texshop - wishlist In-Reply-To: References: <32013.3359@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <291B7F08-F10F-4BD7-8B32-DA99733882A6@mac.com> Le 16 mai 05 ? 10:15, Lawrence Paulson a ?crit : > I'd like to second requests 1 and 4. > > On 16 May 2005, at 01:00, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List wrote: > >> 4. Could we change "Less Options" to "Fewer Options"? Just out of curiosity: what's the difference between the two (apart from, obviously, the wording)? Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ghiog at netconnect.com.au Mon May 16 08:15:13 2005 From: ghiog at netconnect.com.au (George Ghio) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:15:13 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: find in texshop - wishlist In-Reply-To: <291B7F08-F10F-4BD7-8B32-DA99733882A6@mac.com> References: <32013.3359@email.esm.psu.edu> <291B7F08-F10F-4BD7-8B32-DA99733882A6@mac.com> Message-ID: <280C99C6-C604-11D9-8080-000A95D9412C@netconnect.com.au> Less adj: (comparative of `little' usually used with mass nouns) a quantifier meaning not as great in amount or degree; "of less importance"; "less time to spend with the family"; "a shower uses less water"; "less than three years old" Fewer adj: (comparative of `few' used with count nouns) quantifier meaning a smaller number of; "fewer birds came this year"; "the birds are fewer this year"; "fewer trains were late" Funny thing words. On 16/05/2005, at 6:32 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 16 mai 05 ? 10:15, Lawrence Paulson a ?crit : > >> I'd like to second requests 1 and 4. >> >> On 16 May 2005, at 01:00, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List wrote: >> >>> 4. Could we change "Less Options" to "Fewer Options"? > > Just out of curiosity: what's the difference between the two (apart > from, obviously, the wording)? > > Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From wadams at atlis.com Mon May 16 09:08:51 2005 From: wadams at atlis.com (William F. Adams) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:08:51 -0400 Subject: OT: word games, less and fewer (was Re: [OS X TeX] Re: find in texshop - wishlist) In-Reply-To: <280C99C6-C604-11D9-8080-000A95D9412C@netconnect.com.au> References: <32013.3359@email.esm.psu.edu> <291B7F08-F10F-4BD7-8B32-DA99733882A6@mac.com> <280C99C6-C604-11D9-8080-000A95D9412C@netconnect.com.au> Message-ID: On May 16, 2005, at 8:15 AM, George Ghio wrote: > Less > adj: (comparative of `little' usually used with mass nouns) a > quantifier meaning not as great in amount or degree; "of less > importance"; "less time to spend with the family"; "a shower uses less > water"; "less than three years old" > > Fewer > adj: (comparative of `few' used with count nouns) quantifier meaning a > smaller number of; "fewer birds came this year"; "the birds are fewer > this year"; "fewer trains were late" There's a US Comic strip called _Jumpstart_ which includes a grandmother who is quite the stickler for proper English usage --- they did a cartoon on this which graphically demonstrated the difference between the two using incmoplete portions of people standing in the grocery line with ``less people''. William -- William Adams, publishing specialist voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708 www.atlis.com --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mshanson at wesleyan.edu Mon May 16 10:17:42 2005 From: mshanson at wesleyan.edu (Michael S. Hanson) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 10:17:42 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: find in texshop - wishlist In-Reply-To: References: <32013.3359@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <388c26a29b11412d5ffde396aa1a849a@wesleyan.edu> On May 16, 2005, at 4:15 AM, Lawrence Paulson wrote: > I'd like to second requests 1 and 4. > > On the other hand, 3 would end the common practice of selecting a > search string to paste into the Find box. No, it would not: it would simply change the default in the Find dialogue from "Entire File" to "Selection" whenever a block of text was currently highlighted. One could always manually over-ride that selection before executing the search. (Or click outside the highlighted area before searching.) Having used an editor that changes the scope of the find/replace automatically in the past, I agree with Themis that this behavior is actually desirable and a real time saver once you incorporate it into your workflow. As a result, I now find it frustrating / infuriating when I think I am going to change text just in a selection and end up affecting the whole document. (BBEdit in particular comes to mind....) I suppose a refinement would be for the editor to change the scope to "selection" only when a LF or CR was included in the interior of the selected string -- that might more directly address Larry's concern. Personally, I prefer the behavior that Themis describes because I find it better to not change things you mean to change (and thus simply execute the find/replace a second time on the broader scope) than to change things you did not mean to change (and thus have to undo one or more changes, re-locate the selection in which the change is to be applied, re-execute the find/replace on this narrow scope, then "re-do" any subsequent changes since the erroneous find/replace). I also find this behavior consistent with the Macintosh philosophy (largely lost on OS X, it seems) that destructive changes should not be defaults, all else equal. Reasonable people can disagree on the configuration of GUI defaults; I simply wanted to clarify Larry's interpretation, and provide some rationale for why some folks might prefer the behavior for which Themis has advocated. As well as, perhaps, a second for his "motion." > On 16 May 2005, at 01:00, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List wrote: > >> Subject: find in texshop - wishlist >> From: "Themis Matsoukas" >> Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 20:25:12 -0400 >> >> 1. When I search in Texshop for a string, I hit apple-F and start >> typing the string. The Find panel, however, remembers the last string >> and *appends* the typing to the old string. It would be better if the >> find panel opened with the old string *selected* so that any new >> typing >> writes over the old. >> >> 3. It would be nice if Find would automatically switch to "Scope >> Selection", if some text is already selected. >> >> 4. Could we change "Less Options" to "Fewer Options"? I concur! -- Mike --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Mon May 16 10:57:11 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:57:11 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Undesired Rotated Figure in PSTricks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1AF2E071-6623-43B2-ACB6-7B92C92A9642@xs4all.nl> On 16 May 2005, at 08:05, Vince McGarry wrote: > I'm having a problem that I think may be related to dvips. > Rotations are occurring that I can neither explain nor fix. I am > enclosing a few files with comments. My desire is to get things > working again with Herb Schulz's version of ps4pdf, however the > rotation problem seems to even affect the display in TeXShop's pdf > viewer when compiling with latex-dvips-gs. I seem to remember a > discussion about this a while back, but can't find it. It is related to the epstopdf script. It tries to be smart when deciding the orientation of a pdf when generating it from an eps file. A bit too smart for its own good. You can either try to use pstopdf (which is Apple's converter), or dig inside the epstopdf script and fix it*. Cheating is allowed: adding invisible, unrotated text will fool the algorithm, and force the figure to be in the orientation you expect (or at least the is what I heard). Maarten * Although I have version 2.9.1 draft on my machine, and it seems to have fixed tissue already: # 2004/03/17 v2.9.1draft (Gerben Wierda) # * No autorotate page --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From vmcgarry at austin.rr.com Mon May 16 12:36:52 2005 From: vmcgarry at austin.rr.com (Vince McGarry) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:36:52 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Undesired Rotated Figure in PSTricks In-Reply-To: <1AF2E071-6623-43B2-ACB6-7B92C92A9642@xs4all.nl> References: <1AF2E071-6623-43B2-ACB6-7B92C92A9642@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <0C3BACDE-5E42-4148-9AA3-DB139F430DB9@austin.rr.com> Thanks, Maarten. It seems I have version 2.9.1, too. I also have another version inside the TeXShop Resources folder. I removed that one temporarily to see if there was any change, but its still the same. Is there a way to tell what script is being called? I tried to add unrotated text, but that didn't work either. Vince On May 16, 2005, at 9:57 AM, Maarten Sneep wrote: > On 16 May 2005, at 08:05, Vince McGarry wrote: > > >> I'm having a problem that I think may be related to dvips. >> Rotations are occurring that I can neither explain nor fix. I am >> enclosing a few files with comments. My desire is to get things >> working again with Herb Schulz's version of ps4pdf, however the >> rotation problem seems to even affect the display in TeXShop's pdf >> viewer when compiling with latex-dvips-gs. I seem to remember a >> discussion about this a while back, but can't find it. >> > > It is related to the epstopdf script. It tries to be smart when > deciding the orientation of a pdf when generating it from an eps > file. A bit too smart for its own good. You can either try to use > pstopdf (which is Apple's converter), or dig inside the epstopdf > script and fix it*. Cheating is allowed: adding invisible, > unrotated text will fool the algorithm, and force the figure to be > in the orientation you expect (or at least the is what I heard). > > Maarten > > * Although I have version 2.9.1 draft on my machine, and it seems > to have fixed tissue already: > # 2004/03/17 v2.9.1draft (Gerben Wierda) > # * No autorotate page > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Mon May 16 12:40:57 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:40:57 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Undesired Rotated Figure in PSTricks In-Reply-To: <1AF2E071-6623-43B2-ACB6-7B92C92A9642@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: On 5/16/05 9:57 AM, "Maarten Sneep" wrote: > > It is related to the epstopdf script. It tries to be smart when > deciding the orientation of a pdf when generating it from an eps > file. A bit too smart for its own good. You can either try to use > pstopdf (which is Apple's converter), or dig inside the epstopdf > script and fix it*. Cheating is allowed: adding invisible, unrotated > text will fool the algorithm, and force the figure to be in the > orientation you expect (or at least the is what I heard). > > Maarten > > * Although I have version 2.9.1 draft on my machine, and it seems to > have fixed tissue already: > # 2004/03/17 v2.9.1draft (Gerben Wierda) > # * No autorotate page > Howdy, I've got the version with Gerben's change and I still have that item rotated. I even get it rotated when I convert the file to use a pdftricks that uses the altpdflatex+pdfcrop method to convert each individual graphic. I've translated the file into a pdftricks version since I'm more familiar with that: %!TEX TS-program = pdflatex % Graph_Test.tex \documentclass[11pt]{article} \usepackage{pdftricks} %\NoProcess[1-3] \begin{psinputs}% \usepackage{multido} \usepackage{pstricks} \usepackage{pst-node} \newcommand{\Salary}[1]{#1} \end{psinputs} \begin{document} \begin{pdfpic}% \begin{pspicture}(1.5,-2.5)(10.5,3.5)%\showgrid \psline(2,0)(10,0) \multido{\iA=2+1}{9}{\psline(\iA,-0.2)(\iA,0.2)\uput{24pt}[-90]{90}(\iA,0.5) {\Salary{\iA}}} \end{pspicture} \end{pdfpic} \begin{pdfpic}% \begin{pspicture}(1.5,-2.5)(10.5,3.5)%\showgrid \psline(2,0)(10,0) \multido{\iA=2+1}{9}{\psline(\iA,-0.2)(\iA,0.2)\uput{24pt}[-90]{90}(\iA,0.5) {\Salary{\iA}}} \psline(2.5,0.8)(2.5,1.2) \psline(9,0.8)(9,1.2) \psline(4,2.3)(4,2.7) \psline(8,2.3)(8,2.7) \psline(2.5,1)(9,1) \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](3.5,0.5)(5,1.5) \psline(4,0.5)(4,1.5) \psline(4,2.5)(8,2.5) \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](4.5,2)(6.5,3) \psline(5.5,2)(5.5,3) \pcline[linestyle=none](6.5,2.5)(8,2.5) \bput{0}{Opera} \pcline[linestyle=none](5,1)(9,1) \bput{0}{Country} \end{pspicture} \end{pdfpic} \begin{pdfpic}% \renewcommand{\Salary}[1]{#10,000} \begin{pspicture}(1.5,-2.5)(10.5,3.5)%\showgrid \psline(2,0)(10,0) \multido{\iA=2+1}{9}{\psline(\iA,-0.2)(\iA,0.2)\uput{24pt}[-90]{90}(\iA,0.5) {\Salary{\iA}}} \psline(2.5,0.8)(2.5,1.2) \psline(9,0.8)(9,1.2) \psline(4,2.3)(4,2.7) \psline(8,2.3)(8,2.7) \psline(2.5,1)(9,1) \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](3.5,0.5)(5,1.5) \psline(4,0.5)(4,1.5) \psline(4,2.5)(8,2.5) \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](4.5,2)(6.5,3) \psline(5.5,2)(5.5,3) \pcline[linestyle=none](6.5,2.5)(8,2.5) \bput{0}{Opera} \pcline[linestyle=none](5,1)(9,1) \bput{0}{Country} \end{pspicture} \end{pdfpic} \end{document} and processed it with the version of pdftricks in which I've changed the processing steps and it still doesn't work. However, if I then drop the Graph_Test-fig*.tex files produced for each figure onto my DropPdft-fig2Pdf Dropscript, which should be processing the files in an identical fashion, the Graph_Test-fig*.pdf files are correct! Uncommenting the \NoProcess line in the Graph_Test.tex file above and compiling with pdflatex then gives the correctly oriented figures. I still haven't been able to figure out what the difference in processing steps does. In my pdftricks package I use a altpdflatex->pdfcrop sequence, in the Dropscript I use latex->dvips->ps3pdf13->pdfcrop. If I change the pdftricks file to directly use the same processing as the Dropscript I still get rotated figures. Sigh... I'll look into this further. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Mon May 16 12:42:36 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:42:36 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Undesired Rotated Figure in PSTricks In-Reply-To: <0C3BACDE-5E42-4148-9AA3-DB139F430DB9@austin.rr.com> Message-ID: On 5/16/05 11:36 AM, "Vince McGarry" wrote: > Thanks, Maarten. It seems I have version 2.9.1, too. I also have > another version inside the TeXShop Resources folder. I removed that > one temporarily to see if there was any change, but its still the > same. Is there a way to tell what script is being called? > > I tried to add unrotated text, but that didn't work either. > > Vince > Howdy, Carefully examine the full paths printed on the Console. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From markoilcan at yahoo.com Mon May 16 12:31:19 2005 From: markoilcan at yahoo.com (mark oilcan) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] A working version of emacs (fwd) In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050516163119.60058.qmail@web53109.mail.yahoo.com> --- Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 11.05.2005 um 17:03 schrieb mark oilcan: > > > X11 versions of xemacs are most easily installed via fink or > > darwinports, but there's also a beta carbon version available here: > > http://members.shaw.ca/akochoi-xemacs/index.html > > > > XEmacs works indeed much better! > > From the first start a few packages are missing: uniquify to convert > .emacs to init.el (because of too much customization done?), efs for > package management, and I don't know what else. I couldn't find a way > to change the font size or create a font set for even better Unicode > support ... > Yes, the xemacs you get is very minimal and you really need to download the packages from www.xemacs.org. (http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/packageGuide.html ) I've found the easiest way to do things so far (since installing the packages through the menu doesn't work yet in carbon) is to compile carbon xemacs to point to the same package directory as x11 xemacs (using the --package-path option to configure) and using x11 xemacs to keep up to date on packages. Font sets don't exist in xemacs. These things are supposed to work by language environment etc under the options menu. I would suggest writing to xemacs-beta if you have found some instances which don't work properly. Mark A __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Mobile Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Mon May 16 12:57:05 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 18:57:05 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Undesired Rotated Figure in PSTricks In-Reply-To: <1AF2E071-6623-43B2-ACB6-7B92C92A9642@xs4all.nl> References: <1AF2E071-6623-43B2-ACB6-7B92C92A9642@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <96D6248D-EFFB-46E1-838F-FE4FE6B90585@mac.com> Le 16 mai 05 ? 16:57, Maarten Sneep a ?crit : > On 16 May 2005, at 08:05, Vince McGarry wrote: > >> I'm having a problem that I think may be related to dvips. >> Rotations are occurring that I can neither explain nor fix. I am >> enclosing a few files with comments. My desire is to get things >> working again with Herb Schulz's version of ps4pdf, however the >> rotation problem seems to even affect the display in TeXShop's pdf >> viewer when compiling with latex-dvips-gs. I seem to remember a >> discussion about this a while back, but can't find it. > > It is related to the epstopdf script. It tries to be smart when > deciding the orientation of a pdf when generating it from an eps > file. A bit too smart for its own good. You can either try to use > pstopdf (which is Apple's converter), or dig inside the epstopdf > script and fix it*. Cheating is allowed: adding invisible, > unrotated text will fool the algorithm, and force the figure to be > in the orientation you expect (or at least the is what I heard). > > Maarten > > * Although I have version 2.9.1 draft on my machine, and it seems > to have fixed tissue already: > # 2004/03/17 v2.9.1draft (Gerben Wierda) > # * No autorotate page I don't think that matters here: in "TeX + dvips + GS" mode, TeXShop doesn't use epstopdf, and uses instead the script /usr/local/bin/ simpdftex which doesn't call gs in the same way than epstopdf. epstopdf says my $pipe = "$GS -q -sDEVICE=pdfwrite $GSOPTS - dAutoRotatePages=/None" . " -sOutputFile=$OutputFilename - -c quit"; while simpdftex says #distillerprog="/usr/local/bin/gs -dCompatibility=1.3 -q - dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=- -c save pop" Hence you have to add "-dAutoRotatePages=/None" to the list of options when calling gs. I don't know how this could be done. Possibly by using the option --distiller of simpdftex. You may try in TeXShop's pref Engine > "TeX + dvips + distiller" to replace, for example, altpdflatex --maxpfb by altpdflatex --maxpfb --distiller="/usr/local/bin/gs - dCompatibility=1.3 -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite - dAutoRotatePages=/None -sOutputFile=- -c save pop" Absolutely untested! Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From pierre.chatelier at club-internet.fr Mon May 16 15:12:07 2005 From: pierre.chatelier at club-internet.fr (Pierre Chatelier) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:12:07 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT Message-ID: <0e00f94b2b24e07b89f966dd636251ec@club-internet.fr> Hello, I am the author of LaTeXiT; Maarten Sneep told me that it would be a good idea for me to suscribe here; indeed, it is the least I can do. Just to start with ideas about future improvements in LEE's, Equation service or LaTeXiT : -So far, I think that calling latex, dvips and ps2pdf is slow, but it is the only reliable and portable way to get a scaled image with a correct bounding box. I have experimented to put some \mag commands into LaTeX source code, but it is very disappointing. About the bouding box, I do not know how to compute one by myself; but if somebody knows that, this could be a first step to get rid of dvips. -To attach latex source code to a PDF, Marteen has talked about pdftk. In my opinion, it is a problem to use a tool that is not usually packaged with LaTeX (for example, pdfcrop, that could be used to compute a bounding box, is not distributed with the LaTeX from Fink. So, I foresee to release new versions of LaTeXiT that would rather use the PDFKit of MacOS 10.4. On one hand, this is portable; on the other hand, it is Tiger only... -About the baseline problem : I disagree to call it a problem. It is just up to the user to align the *image* he has generated with its text. I really do not see which assumptions could be made about the context... But it may just be a less of knowledge of my part; in fact I do use some context information for the LaTeXiT service : when the text to replace is in RTF format, I get the font size to deduce some scaling, so that the PDF image is already at a proper size Any thoughts ? Regards, Pierre --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Mon May 16 15:13:13 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:13:13 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeX i-Package prerelease (TeX4ht) Message-ID: The TeX i-Package has been updated. I Updated TeX4ht in both 2004 stable and 2005 development with the latest version, this means that a complete recompile and repackaging was initiated. As a result, the update will force a redownload of almost all parts of the i-Package you are using. As of this release, TeX4ht on the TL2003-based release is not supported anymore. I have no idea if it works at all. What you get when you install the 2003 setup is a combination of old binaries and new texmf tree contents. If it is really needed by someone I can try to add the new binaries to the 2003 setup, but only if it is really needed. The new i-Package is available from the *EXPERIMENTAL* i-Directory and will (unless errors are reported) migrate to all repositories after a while. G --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gurari at cse.ohio-state.edu Mon May 16 15:31:15 2005 From: gurari at cse.ohio-state.edu (Eitan Gurari) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 15:31:15 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeX i-Package prerelease (TeX4ht) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <17032.62723.331888.345695@xi.cse.ohio-state.edu> Thanks, Gerben. To users of tex4ht, I'll appreciate much bug reports related to the functioning of tex4ht directed to me and not to Gerben. It will simplify matters to Gerben, the users of the system, and myself. -eitan > The TeX i-Package has been updated. I Updated TeX4ht in both 2004 > stable and 2005 development with the latest version, this means that > a complete recompile and repackaging was initiated. As a result, the > update will force a redownload of almost all parts of the i-Package > you are using. > > As of this release, TeX4ht on the TL2003-based release is not > supported anymore. I have no idea if it works at all. What you get > when you install the 2003 setup is a combination of old binaries and > new texmf tree contents. If it is really needed by someone I can try > to add the new binaries to the 2003 setup, but only if it is really > needed. > > The new i-Package is available from the *EXPERIMENTAL* i-Directory > and will (unless errors are reported) migrate to all repositories > after a while. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From dominique.thillaud at wanadoo.fr Mon May 16 16:28:07 2005 From: dominique.thillaud at wanadoo.fr (Dominique Thillaud) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:28:07 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] problem with package listings Message-ID: <033E74A7-C649-11D9-9D9E-00039372C378@wanadoo.fr> I ask again (sorry if it's too much) : D?but du message r?exp?di? : > De: Dominique Thillaud > Date: Dim 15 mai 2005 11:16:29 Europe/Paris > ?: TeX on Mac OS X > Cc: Dominique Thillaud > Objet: [ab]use of listings' package ? > > Hi all, > Not being a specialist, I've tried to use the command literate of the > package listings to simplify the production of texts in Sanskrit. I > use a standard romanization of this language (to easily cut and paste > from numerized texts) but I need uppercase letters for the names of > Gods or Heroes in my French text. > Alas, I've a lot of unexpected spaces in the .pdf and, worst, > apparently randomly : > For example, a group "paap" (two consonants and a long 'a') will > produce sometimes 'pap', sometimes 'p ap' and sometimes 'pa p' (with > macron a, of course). Too strange, I'm puzzled. > Where is my bug ? > Thanks in advance, > Dominique > > Here, an extract of my package (I know my style in LaTeX is > tremendous, as my English) : > > \ProvidesPackage{menegos}[2005/01/16 v1.0 textes de recherche] > \DeclareOption*{\PassOptionsToClass{\CurrentOption}{book}} > \ProcessOptions\relax % toutes transmises ? la classe book > \RequirePackage[latin1]{inputenc} > \RequirePackage[cyr]{aeguill} % gabo > \RequirePackage{xspace} % gabo > \RequirePackage{a4wide} > \RequirePackage{listings} > \RequirePackage{tipa} > \RequirePackage[english,polutonikogreek,francais]{babel} > \RequirePackage{graphicx} > \RequirePackage{url} > \RequirePackage{pstricks} > \RequirePackage{pst-tree} > \RequirePackage{array} > \RequirePackage{multirow} > > %.......... > > %% Pour le sanskrit > > %% D?finition du langage > \lstdefinelanguage{sanskrit}{% > escapechar=?,% > mathescape=true,% > basicstyle=\itshape,% > stringstyle=\upshape,% > commentstyle=\normalfont,% > showspaces=false,% > literate=% > % voyelles longues > {aa}{\={a}}{1} {ii}{\={\i}}{1} {uu}{\={u}}{1}% > {AA}{\={A}}{1} {II}{\={I}}{1} {UU}{\={U}}{1}% > % caract?res sp?ciaux montr?s par des majuscules > {D}{\textsubdot{d}}{1} {G}{\.{n}}{1} {H}{\textsubdot{h}}{1}% > {J}{\~{n}}{1} {M}{\.{m}}{1} {N}{\textsubdot{n}}{1}% > {R}{\textsubring{r}}{1} {S}{\textsubdot{s}}{1} {T}{\textsubdot{t}}{1}% > % sifflante gutturale > {z}{\'{s}}{1} {Z}{\'{S}}{1}% > % remplacement des majuscules us?es par les caract?res sp?ciaux > {DD}{D}{1} {GG}{G}{1} {HH}{H}{1}% > {JJ}{J}{1} {MM}{M}{1} {NN}{N}{1}% > {RR}{R}{1} {SS}{S}{1} {TT}{T}{1}% > % majuscules des caract?res sp?ciaux ? l'initiale > {DDD}{\textsubdot{D}}{1} {RRR}{\textsubring{R}}{1}% > {SSS}{\textsubdot{S}}{1} {TTT}{\textsubdot{T}}{1}% > % caract?res sp?ciaux doubl?s (? l'int?rieur) > {DDDD}{\textsubdot{d}\textsubdot{d}}{2}% > {NNNN}{\textsubdot{n}\textsubdot{n}}{2}% > {TTTT}{\textsubdot{t}\textsubdot{t}}{2}% > % pour le v?dique (accents simples) > {'a}{\'{a}}{1} {'i}{\'{\i}}{1} {'u}{\'{u}}{1}% > {'e}{\'{e}}{1} {'o}{\'{o}}{1}% > {'aa}{\textacutemacron{a}}{1}% > {'ii}{\textacutemacron{\i}}{1}% > {'uu}{\textacutemacron{u}}{1},% > string=[d]||% > }[comments,strings]% > > %% Commandes d'?criture > \newcommand{\skr}[1]{% italiques (sanskrit seul) > \lstset{language=sanskrit}% > \lstinline!#1!} > \newcommand{\upskr}[1]{% romains (noms propres dans un texte fran?ais) > \lstset{language=sanskrit,basicstyle=\upshape}% > \lstinline!#1!} > \newcommand{\slskr}[1]{% pench?s (noms propres dans une traduction} > \lstset{language=sanskrit,basicstyle=\slshape}% > \lstinline!#1!} > \newcommand{\bskr}[1]{{\large\textbf{\skr{#1}}}}% titres > \newcounter{parag} > \newcommand{\tskr}[1]{% paragraphes > \stepcounter{parag}% > \vspace{\baselineskip} > \noindent{\large\textbf{\theparag~-~\skr{#1}}}\\} > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > Wanadoo vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus > mail. > Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From dominique.thillaud at wanadoo.fr Mon May 16 16:28:07 2005 From: dominique.thillaud at wanadoo.fr (Dominique Thillaud) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 22:28:07 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] problem with package listings Message-ID: <033E74A7-C649-11D9-9D9E-00039372C378@wanadoo.fr> I ask again (sorry if it's too much) : D?but du message r?exp?di? : > De: Dominique Thillaud > Date: Dim 15 mai 2005 11:16:29 Europe/Paris > ?: TeX on Mac OS X > Cc: Dominique Thillaud > Objet: [ab]use of listings' package ? > > Hi all, > Not being a specialist, I've tried to use the command literate of the > package listings to simplify the production of texts in Sanskrit. I > use a standard romanization of this language (to easily cut and paste > from numerized texts) but I need uppercase letters for the names of > Gods or Heroes in my French text. > Alas, I've a lot of unexpected spaces in the .pdf and, worst, > apparently randomly : > For example, a group "paap" (two consonants and a long 'a') will > produce sometimes 'pap', sometimes 'p ap' and sometimes 'pa p' (with > macron a, of course). Too strange, I'm puzzled. > Where is my bug ? > Thanks in advance, > Dominique > > Here, an extract of my package (I know my style in LaTeX is > tremendous, as my English) : > > \ProvidesPackage{menegos}[2005/01/16 v1.0 textes de recherche] > \DeclareOption*{\PassOptionsToClass{\CurrentOption}{book}} > \ProcessOptions\relax % toutes transmises ? la classe book > \RequirePackage[latin1]{inputenc} > \RequirePackage[cyr]{aeguill} % gabo > \RequirePackage{xspace} % gabo > \RequirePackage{a4wide} > \RequirePackage{listings} > \RequirePackage{tipa} > \RequirePackage[english,polutonikogreek,francais]{babel} > \RequirePackage{graphicx} > \RequirePackage{url} > \RequirePackage{pstricks} > \RequirePackage{pst-tree} > \RequirePackage{array} > \RequirePackage{multirow} > > %.......... > > %% Pour le sanskrit > > %% D?finition du langage > \lstdefinelanguage{sanskrit}{% > escapechar=?,% > mathescape=true,% > basicstyle=\itshape,% > stringstyle=\upshape,% > commentstyle=\normalfont,% > showspaces=false,% > literate=% > % voyelles longues > {aa}{\={a}}{1} {ii}{\={\i}}{1} {uu}{\={u}}{1}% > {AA}{\={A}}{1} {II}{\={I}}{1} {UU}{\={U}}{1}% > % caract?res sp?ciaux montr?s par des majuscules > {D}{\textsubdot{d}}{1} {G}{\.{n}}{1} {H}{\textsubdot{h}}{1}% > {J}{\~{n}}{1} {M}{\.{m}}{1} {N}{\textsubdot{n}}{1}% > {R}{\textsubring{r}}{1} {S}{\textsubdot{s}}{1} {T}{\textsubdot{t}}{1}% > % sifflante gutturale > {z}{\'{s}}{1} {Z}{\'{S}}{1}% > % remplacement des majuscules us?es par les caract?res sp?ciaux > {DD}{D}{1} {GG}{G}{1} {HH}{H}{1}% > {JJ}{J}{1} {MM}{M}{1} {NN}{N}{1}% > {RR}{R}{1} {SS}{S}{1} {TT}{T}{1}% > % majuscules des caract?res sp?ciaux ? l'initiale > {DDD}{\textsubdot{D}}{1} {RRR}{\textsubring{R}}{1}% > {SSS}{\textsubdot{S}}{1} {TTT}{\textsubdot{T}}{1}% > % caract?res sp?ciaux doubl?s (? l'int?rieur) > {DDDD}{\textsubdot{d}\textsubdot{d}}{2}% > {NNNN}{\textsubdot{n}\textsubdot{n}}{2}% > {TTTT}{\textsubdot{t}\textsubdot{t}}{2}% > % pour le v?dique (accents simples) > {'a}{\'{a}}{1} {'i}{\'{\i}}{1} {'u}{\'{u}}{1}% > {'e}{\'{e}}{1} {'o}{\'{o}}{1}% > {'aa}{\textacutemacron{a}}{1}% > {'ii}{\textacutemacron{\i}}{1}% > {'uu}{\textacutemacron{u}}{1},% > string=[d]||% > }[comments,strings]% > > %% Commandes d'?criture > \newcommand{\skr}[1]{% italiques (sanskrit seul) > \lstset{language=sanskrit}% > \lstinline!#1!} > \newcommand{\upskr}[1]{% romains (noms propres dans un texte fran?ais) > \lstset{language=sanskrit,basicstyle=\upshape}% > \lstinline!#1!} > \newcommand{\slskr}[1]{% pench?s (noms propres dans une traduction} > \lstset{language=sanskrit,basicstyle=\slshape}% > \lstinline!#1!} > \newcommand{\bskr}[1]{{\large\textbf{\skr{#1}}}}% titres > \newcounter{parag} > \newcommand{\tskr}[1]{% paragraphes > \stepcounter{parag}% > \vspace{\baselineskip} > \noindent{\large\textbf{\theparag~-~\skr{#1}}}\\} > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------- > Wanadoo vous informe que cet e-mail a ete controle par l'anti-virus > mail. > Aucun virus connu a ce jour par nos services n'a ete detecte. > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fstengel at mac.com Mon May 16 17:24:07 2005 From: fstengel at mac.com (Frank STENGEL) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:24:07 +0000 Subject: [OS X TeX] problem with package listings In-Reply-To: <033E74A7-C649-11D9-9D9E-00039372C378@wanadoo.fr> References: <033E74A7-C649-11D9-9D9E-00039372C378@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <8BF288AD-AEA0-47FB-AA12-2F283A7C0AA2@mac.com> Le 16 mai 05 ? 20:28, Dominique Thillaud a ?crit : > I ask again (sorry if it's too much) : > Sorry, I forgot to answer... Try to use the extendedchars=true option to the listings package. this is the option that enables the (proper) typing of accents in listings. -- Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fstengel at mac.com Mon May 16 17:29:44 2005 From: fstengel at mac.com (Frank STENGEL) Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 21:29:44 +0000 Subject: [OS X TeX] problem with package listings In-Reply-To: <8BF288AD-AEA0-47FB-AA12-2F283A7C0AA2@mac.com> References: <033E74A7-C649-11D9-9D9E-00039372C378@wanadoo.fr> <8BF288AD-AEA0-47FB-AA12-2F283A7C0AA2@mac.com> Message-ID: <35173039-25CE-4040-A485-AADF6B5826D9@mac.com> Le 16 mai 05 ? 21:24, Frank STENGEL a ?crit : > Try to use the extendedchars=true option to the listings package. > this is the option that enables the (proper) typing of accents in > listings. Oops, I forgot. You set it using the command \lstset{extendedchars=true} before your listing(s). -- Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 16 19:13:31 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 01:13:31 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] A working version of emacs (fwd) In-Reply-To: <20050516163119.60058.qmail@web53109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050516163119.60058.qmail@web53109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <07602febb5dd4b1ad6f875526fa1a02a@Web.DE> Am 16.05.2005 um 18:31 schrieb mark oilcan: > Font sets don't exist in xemacs. These things are supposed to work by > language environment etc under the options menu. I would suggest > writing to xemacs-beta if you have found some instances which don't > work properly. > Hello Mark! You seem to have both versions available. If you like you can download a reference file I used too for simplicity: ftp://kermit.columbia.edu/kermit/charsets/utf8.txt and try to compare the performance in Quartz and X11. It's almost 2 MB and quite complete, i.e. 64K lines describing the Unicode 4 characters set. I think I am still missing some fonts for some scripts, so gaps can be explained from this -- or from the fact that XEmacs only uses exactly one font to display now more than 64K glyphs in Unicode 4.2? -- Greetings Pete Math illiteracy affects 7 out of every 5 Americans. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From MacOSXTeX at damonam.ml1.net Mon May 16 23:55:58 2005 From: MacOSXTeX at damonam.ml1.net (Damon Muller) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:55:58 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Memoir class and references Message-ID: <85487B06-FA0E-433F-B85C-F4E6753C8D57@damonam.ml1.net> I recently came across a suggestion to check out the Memoir class, and I must say that I really love it. I love the chapter styles (I'm using 'demo' at the moment, but I suspect it will be too showy for the final copy of my PhD thesis), and I've successfully managed to create a table of case-studies, something I could never get my head around in vanilla LaTeX. However, I'm having a bit of trouble with my references list. To start with, the Memoir manual states that the references should be in a "thebibliography" environment, which is fine. But it says it should be used as: \begin{thebibliography}{(exlabel)} And then goes on to say "The bibliography is typeset within the thebibliography environment. This takes one required argument, (exlabel), which is a piece of text as wide as the widest label in the bibliography". Maybe I'm thick, but I can't work out exactly what that means. Can someone provide an example? I'm also using apacite as the BibTeX style, which doesn't seem to be explicitly supported by Memoir, but does generally work okay. Unfortunately, however, it doesn't put the bibliography in its own chapter, which the class I was previously using (book, maybe) did. I'm not sure, however, whether the problem is due to apacite, or to me no understanding how to use the 'thebibliography' environment. Cheers, damon -- It so happens that I have mail-order degrees in muderology and murderonomy. -- Dr. Zoidberg --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lp15 at cam.ac.uk Tue May 17 04:08:15 2005 From: lp15 at cam.ac.uk (Lawrence Paulson) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:08:15 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: find in texshop - wishlist Message-ID: <4261092B-BA28-4D47-8BB0-D5B5002417A9@cam.ac.uk> > No, it would not: it would simply change the default in the Find > dialogue from "Entire File" to "Selection" whenever a block of text > was > currently highlighted. One could always manually over-ride that > selection before executing the search. That sounds fine. Thanks for clarifying. Larry Paulson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Tue May 17 04:12:22 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:12:22 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Memoir class and references In-Reply-To: <85487B06-FA0E-433F-B85C-F4E6753C8D57@damonam.ml1.net> References: <85487B06-FA0E-433F-B85C-F4E6753C8D57@damonam.ml1.net> Message-ID: On 17 May 2005, at 05:55, Damon Muller wrote: > To start with, the Memoir manual states that the references should > be in a "thebibliography" environment, which is fine. But it says > it should be used as: > > \begin{thebibliography}{(exlabel)} > > And then goes on to say "The bibliography is typeset within the > thebibliography environment. This takes one required argument, > (exlabel), which is a piece of text as wide as the widest label in > the bibliography". > > Maybe I'm thick, but I can't work out exactly what that means. Can > someone provide an example? Just use BibTeX, and all will be provided. That is a description, as far as I can see, of the standard bibliography environment - typically generated with BibTeX. May I suggest you investigate the use of BibDesk to manage your databases? > I'm also using apacite as the BibTeX style, which doesn't seem to > be explicitly supported by Memoir, but does generally work okay. > Unfortunately, however, it doesn't put the bibliography in its own > chapter, which the class I was previously using (book, maybe) did. > > I'm not sure, however, whether the problem is due to apacite, or to > me no understanding how to use the 'thebibliography' environment. Others are in a better position to comment on this, but I've used bibtex with Memoir to great success. This effectively produces the following sequence of commands, puts them in a file and inputs the file: \begin{thebibliography}{100} \bibitem{farman1985b} J.~C. Farman, B.~G. Gardiner and J.~D. Shanklin, \enquote{Large losses of total ozone in antarctica reveal seasonal {$\mathrm{ClO}_x$/$\mathrm{NO} _x$} interaction}. \emph{Nature} \textbf{315}, 207--210 (1985). . . . \end{thebibliography} There are some packages that interact with Memoir to put bibliographies in sections, chapterbib is explicitly mentioned, and natbib with teh sectionbib option does the same. By default things should end up in a separate chapter though. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From dominique.thillaud at wanadoo.fr Tue May 17 04:51:09 2005 From: dominique.thillaud at wanadoo.fr (Dominique Thillaud) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 10:51:09 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] problem with package listings In-Reply-To: <35173039-25CE-4040-A485-AADF6B5826D9@mac.com> Message-ID: Dear Frank, Thanks, that works for the unexpected spaces (I used extendedchars=true option directly at the level of definition language in the block of \lstdefinelanguage{sanskrit}). But an other error appears (perhaps a previous one less evident) : after the special characters, normal spaces are deleted. This occurs after long vowels, M and H, the only ones able to ending a word : \skr{manthaanam mandaraM kRtvaa mamanthur amitaujasaH} becomes manthanam mandaramkrtvamamanthur amitaujasah (with special chars correctly writen) Worst, an attempt to use explicit spaces, compiling : \skr{manthaanam mandaraM\ kRtvaa\ mamanthur amitaujasaH} gives the same result and an attempt of introducing { }{\ }{1} in the literate list gives an error. Puzzled again ! Dominique PS : curiously, if I ask the option showspaces=true, ALL the spaces are correct : manthanam_mandaram_krtva_mamanthur_amitaujasah ( _ for the visible space char) but I can't use this solution who whould be ambiguous with a splitted sandhi. Le lundi, 16 mai 2005, ? 23:29 Europe/Paris, Frank STENGEL a ?crit : > > Le 16 mai 05 ? 21:24, Frank STENGEL a ?crit : > >> Try to use the extendedchars=true option to the listings package. >> this is the option that enables the (proper) typing of accents in >> listings. > > Oops, I forgot. You set it using the command > > \lstset{extendedchars=true} > > before your listing(s). > > -- > Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 17 05:20:56 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:20:56 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeX i-Package prerelease (TeX4ht) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 16 mai 05 ? 21:13, Gerben Wierda a ?crit : > The new i-Package is available from the *EXPERIMENTAL* i-Directory > and will (unless errors are reported) migrate to all repositories > after a while. The language choices don't seem to stick: I usually add British to the default selection of hyphenation patterns, and had to check it again this time (it was presented unchecked by i-Installer). This isn't specific to this release: I saw the same for the previous experimental release (a couple of days ago), but wasn't sure at the time. I don't know when this got broken. No problem with format selection and font mapping selection: my previous modifications of the defaults were indeed remembered by i- Installer. This is all for TeXLive 2005 devel. I looked briefly, and it seems there's no language.dat in texmf.local, only one in texmf.gwtex at /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/generic/config/language.dat I imagine that's why user choices are no longer remembered. Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ueliisa at gmx.net Tue May 17 08:26:59 2005 From: ueliisa at gmx.net (Ueliisa) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 14:26:59 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: find in texshop - wishlist In-Reply-To: <4261092B-BA28-4D47-8BB0-D5B5002417A9@cam.ac.uk> References: <4261092B-BA28-4D47-8BB0-D5B5002417A9@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <59FAA3EC-29D2-44F4-80C8-B5964AA12E4D@gmx.net> If I have a wish for this genial TexShop it would be a find-tool witch could follow from masterdocument into the subdocuments ueliisa --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 17 08:42:27 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 14:42:27 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT In-Reply-To: <0e00f94b2b24e07b89f966dd636251ec@club-internet.fr> References: <0e00f94b2b24e07b89f966dd636251ec@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: <75A0DB62-8A91-41A0-87CF-5424112FE535@mac.com> Le 16 mai 05 ? 21:12, Pierre Chatelier a ?crit : > -About the baseline problem : I disagree to call it a problem. It > is just up to the user to align the *image* he has generated with > its text. I really do not see which assumptions could be made > about the context... But it may just be a less of knowledge of my > part; in fact I do use some context information for the LaTeXiT > service : when the text to replace is in RTF format, I get the font > size to deduce some scaling, so that the PDF image is already at a > proper size If you think of LaTeXiT not with respect to TeX, but as an equation editor to be used in conjunction with standard word processing software (MS Office, OpenOffice.org, AbiWord, iWork, etc.), then the baseline correction is indeed crucial: it is a prerequisite for including short formulas inline with text, with the same baseline for the text and the equations irrespective of subscripts, of descenders in the math characters, etc. For example, there's an OOo macro package called OOoLaTeXEquation doing this for OpenOffice.org. You can see in the provided screenshot how crucial the baseline correction is, to produce nicely flowing text in the PDF output. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From simon at simifilm.ch Tue May 17 08:57:41 2005 From: simon at simifilm.ch (Simon Spiegel) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 14:57:41 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] find in texshop - wishlist In-Reply-To: <2f963cd9d7dc7b591325c9a62db66f0d@adelphia.net> References: <2f963cd9d7dc7b591325c9a62db66f0d@adelphia.net> Message-ID: On 15.05.2005, at 02:25, Themis Matsoukas wrote: > 1. When I search in Texshop for a string, I hit apple-F and start > typing the string. The Find panel, however, remembers the last > string and *appends* the typing to the old string. It would be > better if the find panel opened with the old string *selected* so > that any new typing writes over the old. > > 2. The highlight color changes the highlight (of course) but also > the color of the font of the search string. The font color reverts > to black after relaunching texshop. > > 3. It would be nice if Find would automatically switch to "Scope > Selection", if some text is already selected. > > 4. Could we change "Less Options" to "Fewer Options"? > > Since we talk about "Find": Would it be possible in Tiger to search in the compiled pdf document? This could be quite useful. simon -- Simon Spiegel Mutschellenstr. 97 8038 Z?rich Telephon: ++41 43 535 81 71 Mobophon: ++41 76 459 60 39 http://www.simifilm.ch "I'm not that easy to impress. ? O, a blue car." Homer Simpson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From wadams at atlis.com Tue May 17 08:55:58 2005 From: wadams at atlis.com (William F. Adams) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 08:55:58 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Memoir class and references In-Reply-To: <85487B06-FA0E-433F-B85C-F4E6753C8D57@damonam.ml1.net> References: <85487B06-FA0E-433F-B85C-F4E6753C8D57@damonam.ml1.net> Message-ID: On May 16, 2005, at 11:55 PM, Damon Muller wrote: > And then goes on to say "The bibliography is typeset within the > thebibliography environment. This takes one required argument, > (exlabel), which is a piece of text as wide as the widest label in the > bibliography". > > Maybe I'm thick, but I can't work out exactly what that means. Can > someone provide an example? If you're using numbered references, you want to ``clear'' for the largest / longest entry. So if your references run 1--9, you'd put a single digit in, 10--99 you'd put two, and if 100--999 you'd put in a 3 digit number. This is of course for monospacing numbers --- if you're using proportional figures you need to figure out which is the widest digit and use appropriate numbers of it, e.g., 8, 88, 888. William -- William Adams, publishing specialist voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708 www.atlis.com --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lsequeir at fc.ul.pt Tue May 17 09:18:21 2005 From: lsequeir at fc.ul.pt (Luis Sequeira) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 14:18:21 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: MacOSX-TeX Digest #1374 - 05/16/05 In-Reply-To: <18413.87362@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <18413.87362@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: > >> I'm having a problem that I think may be related to dvips. >>> Rotations are occurring that I can neither explain nor fix. I am >>> enclosing a few files with comments. My desire is to get things >>> working again with Herb Schulz's version of ps4pdf, however the >>> rotation problem seems to even affect the display in TeXShop's pdf >>> viewer when compiling with latex-dvips-gs. I seem to remember a >>> discussion about this a while back, but can't find it. >>> >> >> It is related to the epstopdf script. It tries to be smart when >> deciding the orientation of a pdf when generating it from an eps >> file. A bit too smart for its own good. You can either try to use >> pstopdf (which is Apple's converter), or dig inside the epstopdf >> script and fix it*. Cheating is allowed: adding invisible, >> unrotated text will fool the algorithm, and force the figure to be >> in the orientation you expect (or at least the is what I heard). >> >> Maarten >> Thanks! Now I know why a document I created (to generate a CD cover) always ended up upside-down! After reading this thread I tried running latex and dvips in the terminal and it came out all right, but it displays upside-down in TeXShop. Actually, I added a blank page (with just the page number on it) and now this blank page appears ok, while the page containing the CD cover appears upside-down - and all the while I was thinking it was something with pstricks... Luis Sequeira --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From pierre.chatelier at club-internet.fr Tue May 17 09:56:35 2005 From: pierre.chatelier at club-internet.fr (Pierre Chatelier) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:56:35 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT In-Reply-To: <75A0DB62-8A91-41A0-87CF-5424112FE535@mac.com> References: <0e00f94b2b24e07b89f966dd636251ec@club-internet.fr> <75A0DB62-8A91-41A0-87CF-5424112FE535@mac.com> Message-ID: Hello >> -About the baseline problem : I disagree to call it a problem. > If you think of LaTeXiT not with respect to TeX, but as an equation > editor to be used in conjunction with standard word processing > software then the baseline correction is indeed crucial: > For example, there's an OOo macro package called OOoLaTeXEquation > doing this for > OpenOffice.org. Okay, but it's not clear for me who's doing what. In my opinion, the equation generator (LEE, LaTeXiT...) must produce a PDF with information attached, so that the context application (OO, Pages...) will be able to tweak it a little. But the PDF generator does not mind about future placement, it is totally external to its work. So the baseline problem is rather a feature of an "importer", that can either be a macro, a smart Drag'n drop pasteboard or anything else, but not the PDF generator itself. And so far, I have absolutely no idea about a way to tell an application : "when I drop there a PDF from LaTeX, just shift it to the baseline". And such a behaviour has no reason to be overloadable in any application. No ? Pierre --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Tue May 17 10:19:25 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 16:19:25 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT In-Reply-To: References: <0e00f94b2b24e07b89f966dd636251ec@club-internet.fr> <75A0DB62-8A91-41A0-87CF-5424112FE535@mac.com> Message-ID: On 17 May 2005, at 15:56, Pierre Chatelier wrote: >>> -About the baseline problem : I disagree to call it a problem. >>> > > > > >> If you think of LaTeXiT not with respect to TeX, but as an >> equation editor to be used in conjunction with standard word >> processing software then the baseline correction is indeed >> crucial: >> For example, there's an OOo macro package called OOoLaTeXEquation >> doing this for >> OpenOffice.org. >> > > Okay, but it's not clear for me who's doing what. In my opinion, > the equation generator (LEE, LaTeXiT...) must produce a PDF with > information attached, so that the context application (OO, > Pages...) will be able to tweak it a little. But the PDF generator > does not mind about future placement, it is totally external to its > work. > No, not exactly: you'd need to provide the wanted information in a form that _can_ contain this information. RTFD comes to mind. This rtfd pasteboard would be a wrapper around the pdf, and includes the \raisebox{-\depth}{\includegraphics{...}} bit (if I were to write the lot in LaTeX ;-) > So the baseline problem is rather a feature of an "importer", that > can either be a macro, a smart Drag'n drop pasteboard or anything > else, but not the PDF generator itself. And so far, I have > absolutely no idea about a way to tell an application : "when I > drop there a PDF from LaTeX, just shift it to the baseline". And > such a behaviour has no reason to be overloadable in any > application. No ? > With the rtfd this would be possible. Now, getting this to work properly is far from trivial, and requires a lot of work and testing. I really would hate to see this effort duplicated in some shape or form. Now, how and why the OOo+macro even works, I have no idea. It is also limited to a coarse bounding box, which may be to coarse for use in normal text (it also uses bitmapped images, a limitation of OOo). In addition, a lowered item, may cause the next line to shift down, leading to irregularly spaced lines. Some care is needed. Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From pierre.chatelier at club-internet.fr Tue May 17 10:40:25 2005 From: pierre.chatelier at club-internet.fr (Pierre Chatelier) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 16:40:25 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT In-Reply-To: References: <0e00f94b2b24e07b89f966dd636251ec@club-internet.fr> <75A0DB62-8A91-41A0-87CF-5424112FE535@mac.com> Message-ID: > o, not exactly: you'd need to provide the wanted information in a form > that _can_ contain this information. RTFD comes to mind. This rtfd > pasteboard would be a wrapper around the pdf, and includes the > \raisebox{-\depth}{\includegraphics{...}} bit (if I were to write the > lot in LaTeX ;-) Ok, I understand far better now. But is it possible to compute the baseline position out of a LaTeX equation ? I guess it is just the first step to make it work... --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 17 11:23:03 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:23:03 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT In-Reply-To: References: <0e00f94b2b24e07b89f966dd636251ec@club-internet.fr> <75A0DB62-8A91-41A0-87CF-5424112FE535@mac.com> Message-ID: Le 17 mai 05 ? 16:40, Pierre Chatelier a ?crit : > But is it possible to compute the baseline position out of a LaTeX > equation ? I guess it is just the first step to make it work... It is possible to get the depth of any box, by using in plain TeX the primitive \dp, and in LaTeX the command \settodepth. What exactly the depth of a box means for an equation, whether it is what we would intuitively expect, I don't know. Proof of concept for plain TeX: \parindent=0pt \parskip=\medskipamount \newbox\eqbox \newdimen\eqdepth \def\eqwithdepth#1 {\setbox\eqbox=\hbox{$#1$}\eqdepth=\dp\eqbox% The depth of the equation \copy\eqbox{} is \the\eqdepth.} \eqwithdepth{x^2} \eqwithdepth{x_1^2} \bye And for LaTeX: \documentclass{article} \setlength{\parindent}{0pt} \setlength{\parskip}{\medskipamount} \newsavebox{\eqbox} \newlength{\eqdepth} \newcommand{\eqwithdepth}[1] {\sbox{\eqbox}{$#1$}\settodepth{\eqdepth}{\usebox{\eqbox}}% The depth of the equation \usebox{\eqbox} is \the\eqdepth.} \begin{document} \eqwithdepth{x^2} \eqwithdepth{x_1^2} \end{document} Hope this helps, Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From pierre.chatelier at club-internet.fr Tue May 17 11:28:50 2005 From: pierre.chatelier at club-internet.fr (Pierre Chatelier) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:28:50 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT In-Reply-To: References: <0e00f94b2b24e07b89f966dd636251ec@club-internet.fr> <75A0DB62-8A91-41A0-87CF-5424112FE535@mac.com> Message-ID: <46f6f51c96eb331a3ee6d07129fd07d3@club-internet.fr> Le 17 mai 2005, ? 17:23, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > It is possible to get the depth of any box, by using in plain TeX the > primitive \dp, and in LaTeX the command \settodepth. > Hope this helps, Yes, but the depth should be deduced from the pdf rather than set "a priori". If I am given a PDF image (as a black box), is it possible for me to extract, from the pdf, the height of the box and its baseline ? Or perhaps it could have been put into a comment field of the PDF during latex compilation ? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Tue May 17 13:41:05 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 19:41:05 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT In-Reply-To: <46f6f51c96eb331a3ee6d07129fd07d3@club-internet.fr> References: <0e00f94b2b24e07b89f966dd636251ec@club-internet.fr> <75A0DB62-8A91-41A0-87CF-5424112FE535@mac.com> <46f6f51c96eb331a3ee6d07129fd07d3@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: <7BDF5281-FD02-4A24-8D8C-AA91578ADAD2@xs4all.nl> On 17 May 2005, at 17:28, Pierre Chatelier wrote: > Yes, but the depth should be deduced from the pdf rather than set > "a priori". > If I am given a PDF image (as a black box), is it possible for me > to extract, from the pdf, the height of the box and its baseline ? > Or perhaps it could have been put into a comment field of the PDF > during latex compilation ? There are tricks to print the depth when compiling the code. Al that is needed then is parsing a separate file, or the log file. (You actually have some of the LaTeX based trickery in a document that I send you earlier. So no: you cannot extract it from the pdf, but you can obtain that info from a TeX run. To let everyone join in: I've put an archive with a very preliminary verion of a design document online at http://www.nat.vu.nl/~sneep/tex/ snippet.zip Compilation instructions are in the package. Further suggestions are welcome. Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From pierre.chatelier at club-internet.fr Tue May 17 15:58:21 2005 From: pierre.chatelier at club-internet.fr (Pierre Chatelier) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 21:58:21 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT In-Reply-To: <7BDF5281-FD02-4A24-8D8C-AA91578ADAD2@xs4all.nl> References: <0e00f94b2b24e07b89f966dd636251ec@club-internet.fr> <75A0DB62-8A91-41A0-87CF-5424112FE535@mac.com> <46f6f51c96eb331a3ee6d07129fd07d3@club-internet.fr> <7BDF5281-FD02-4A24-8D8C-AA91578ADAD2@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: > To let everyone join in: I've put an archive with a very preliminary > verion of a design document online at > http://www.nat.vu.nl/~sneep/tex/snippet.zip Compilation instructions > are in the package. Further suggestions are welcome. This is a very nice work, very instructive. I did not even know that such things could be done in TeX ! Do you also plan to make a study on how to magnify a document to a particular font size ? So far, my experiments with \mag have not been reliable, so that I had to use dvips -x. Pierre ----------------------------------------------------- Pierre Chatelier LLAIC, IUT departement Informatique B.P.86 63172 AUBIERE cedex FRANCE t?l: +33 (0)4 73 17 71 39 ----------------------------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From matsoukas at adelphia.net Tue May 17 18:38:16 2005 From: matsoukas at adelphia.net (Themis Matsoukas) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:38:16 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: find in texshop - wishlist In-Reply-To: <291B7F08-F10F-4BD7-8B32-DA99733882A6@mac.com> References: <32013.3359@email.esm.psu.edu> <291B7F08-F10F-4BD7-8B32-DA99733882A6@mac.com> Message-ID: <03f767dab8ada2afa61c396b3b920757@adelphia.net> On May 16, 2005, at 4:32 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: >>> 4. Could we change "Less Options" to "Fewer Options"? > > Just out of curiosity: what's the difference between the two (apart > from, obviously, the wording)? > It's "fewer people" versus "less sugar", as in things you can count versus things you can measure. Not that my english is perfect but I have an interest in the relation between the discrete and the continuum and the transition from one to the other. I am in the middle of working out one such problem. I am writing it up in latex, of course. Themis --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Tue May 17 18:38:27 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 00:38:27 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT In-Reply-To: References: <0e00f94b2b24e07b89f966dd636251ec@club-internet.fr> <75A0DB62-8A91-41A0-87CF-5424112FE535@mac.com> <46f6f51c96eb331a3ee6d07129fd07d3@club-internet.fr> <7BDF5281-FD02-4A24-8D8C-AA91578ADAD2@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <796B169C-A80F-4B73-96C6-00C13C8A2764@xs4all.nl> On 17 May 2005, at 21:58, Pierre Chatelier wrote: >> To let everyone join in: I've put an archive with a very >> preliminary verion of a design document online at http:// >> www.nat.vu.nl/~sneep/tex/snippet.zip Compilation instructions are >> in the package. Further suggestions are welcome. >> > This is a very nice work, very instructive. I did not even know > that such things could be done in TeX ! > Do you also plan to make a study on how to magnify a document to a > particular font size ? So far, my experiments with \mag have not > been reliable, so that I had to use dvips -x. There are some dirty tricks, using the \resizebox command. You could then set the basic font size to 10 pt, and multiply by the wanted font size/10. I've updated the text, and added the sample. I also switched from Lucida to CM, to make it easier to try the samples. Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From vmcgarry at austin.rr.com Wed May 18 01:25:08 2005 From: vmcgarry at austin.rr.com (Vince McGarry) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 00:25:08 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Undesired Rotated Figure in PSTricks In-Reply-To: <96D6248D-EFFB-46E1-838F-FE4FE6B90585@mac.com> References: <1AF2E071-6623-43B2-ACB6-7B92C92A9642@xs4all.nl> <96D6248D-EFFB-46E1-838F-FE4FE6B90585@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 16, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > I don't think that matters here: in "TeX + dvips + GS" mode, > TeXShop doesn't use epstopdf, and uses instead the script /usr/ > local/bin/simpdftex which doesn't call gs in the same way than > epstopdf. epstopdf says > > my $pipe = "$GS -q -sDEVICE=pdfwrite $GSOPTS - > dAutoRotatePages=/None" . > " -sOutputFile=$OutputFilename - -c quit"; > > while simpdftex says > > #distillerprog="/usr/local/bin/gs -dCompatibility=1.3 -q - > dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=- -c save pop" I'm still trying to understand how all this works and I appreciate all of the help. I decided to look at this file and found this # Default distiller is ps2pdf from /usr/local/bin in no filter mode # as the direct call to a filtering gs does not work yet for some reason #distillerpath="" #distillerprog="/usr/local/bin/gs -dCompatibility=1.3 -q -dNOPAUSE - dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=- -c save pop" #distillerfilter="yes" All of this is a comment. > > Hence you have to add "-dAutoRotatePages=/None" to the list of > options when calling gs. I don't know how this could be done. > Possibly by using the option --distiller of simpdftex. > > You may try in TeXShop's pref Engine > "TeX + dvips + distiller" to > replace, for example, > > altpdflatex --maxpfb > > by > > altpdflatex --maxpfb --distiller="/usr/local/bin/gs - > dCompatibility=1.3 -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite - > dAutoRotatePages=/None -sOutputFile=- -c save pop" > > Absolutely untested! > I did test it. No change. To kludge or not to kludge---change 90 to 89.99999. That'll get me by for the moment. Vince --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Wed May 18 02:02:24 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 23:02:24 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] [ANN] BibDesk-1.0RC1 Message-ID: <9AFB816A-7649-4C53-953A-6B20F73E4E43@mac.com> The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce the availability of BibDesk 1.0RC1 at ; after a few years of development, this is the first release candidate for version 1.0. ** Bugs ** Please post bug reports to our bug tracker at . This includes documentation bugs! If there's a feature that needs a better description, please let us know. There are some significant changes in this release, as usual, but no new features will be added. ** Localization ** BibDesk is currently not localized, but the localization infrastructure is in place. If you are interested in localizing BibDesk for your native language, please e-mail . We ask that you subscribe to the developers list as well, so everyone (hopefully) gets their questions answered in an efficient manner. Our usual deathless release notes follow. ** Changes since 0.99.3 ** IMPORTANT: Boolean search syntax has changed to be compatible with Apple's Help Viewer search, which should make future integration with Apple's search technology more seamless. We apologize for the change (in case anyone uses this feature). Please see the new and improved online help for details of any of the new features mentioned below. If there is an existing feature that you would like to see documented, please file a bug report! New Features ? Search is now case-sensitive if you enter at least one uppercase character in the searchfield ? Added AppleScript properties for 'all fieldnames' and 'all typenames' ? If a BibDesk document is opened in response to a Spotlight search, the search term is automatically entered for you ? Boolean search syntax is now compatible with Apple Help Viewer's new syntax for queries, which uses +| as AND/OR ? "Check Spelling as You Type" menu setting is now remembered (globally); this fixes RFE #974890 and bug #1198028 ? Shift+space now pages up in the preview pane, and the spacebar can be used to scroll to the next pub as well (as in Mail.app) ? Added a "Select Duplicates" item in the "Publication" menu, which finds duplicate items in your bibliography ? Sample AppleScript was rewritten, and is now available from the Scripts menu (choose "About the Scripts Menu") Bugfixes ? "Container" added to the "add column" menu ? Changed canceling behavior of text import sheet ? More characters (including underscore) allowed in the cite-key format strings ? An exception is no longer raised if you control click on part of a table header that isn't part of a column header ? Command-W no longer becomes disconnected in the editor window after saving ? The LaTeX previewer now has access to all of your document's macros, rather than writing out the expanded values (fixes bug #1191916) ? Accented characters in the searchfield are respected (search is fuzzy otherwise, removing accents) ? Document closing speed is no longer glacial for large files with macros (bug #1192203), since complex strings are updated lazily ? Key equivalents for navigation buttons of text import webview, and better updating of stop/reload button for downloading ? Fixed bug #1192511, data loss in case of encoding error (if an exception was raised after you closed an unsaved document and chose to save it) ? Table columns can no longer be duplicated in the main pub list ? Fixed memory leak in macro text field window controller, and in dragging a pub into the editor window ? Sorting a pubs list with lots of braces may be faster ? Changed order of pref panes ? Many changes and updates to the online help, including revised screenshots ? Default column widths should be sane ? AppleScript now works when building on Tiger ? More menu items now have proper ellipses added ? Boolean search now works properly (previously the first search term was captured incorrectly, and whitespace was not handled correctly), and should be less weird about updating ? Removed "Unicode" encoding option for saving/exporting files, as btparse can't handle it (bug #1198587) ? "Open" dialog now comes up when you choose to open a file at launch in "General" preferences, as documented in the help ? Fix bug #1196588, making cite key field its maximal length ? Fix bug #1199338 by creating the "Item Number" of each publication on demand, so you don't end up with weird changes in file order when adding pubs ? Reimplemented table column code ? Columns menu is now rebuilt when table columns change ? Some users had problems scrolling the main pub list with page up/page down, and possibly arrow keys, but this should be fixed ? List of authors for a document is now created on demand for AppleScript, which fixes a bug with zombie authors referring to deleted pubs ? Author name comparisons in AppleScript should be more consistent --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From MacOSXTeX at damonam.ml1.net Wed May 18 02:30:44 2005 From: MacOSXTeX at damonam.ml1.net (Damon Muller) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:30:44 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Memoir class and references In-Reply-To: References: <85487B06-FA0E-433F-B85C-F4E6753C8D57@damonam.ml1.net> Message-ID: Thanks to all who responded. I think I have it sorted out now. It seems that I didn't actually need the 'thebibliography' environment, as I was using BibTeX. This isn't clear in the Memoir documentation (and I'm not so familiar with LaTeX that I intuitively knew it). For the purposes of the list archive, the way I finally got apacite and Memoir to co-exist and give me a new chapter for my reference list was to use the command: \usepackage[numberedbib,bibnewpage,nosectionbib,tocbib]{apacite} I'm not sure if it's _all_ necessary, but that works. This is quite a bit more than I had to do to get it running under the standard LaTeX classes. > Just use BibTeX, and all will be provided. That is a description, > as far as I can see, of the standard bibliography environment - > typically generated with BibTeX. May I suggest you investigate the > use of BibDesk to manage your databases? Yes, I've been using BibDesk for a couple of years now, and it's certainly progressing nicely. I'd be lost without it. -- It so happens that I have mail-order degrees in muderology and murderonomy. -- Dr. Zoidberg --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Wed May 18 02:49:06 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 08:49:06 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OS X TeX] Undesired Rotated Figure in PSTricks In-Reply-To: References: <1AF2E071-6623-43B2-ACB6-7B92C92A9642@xs4all.nl> <96D6248D-EFFB-46E1-838F-FE4FE6B90585@mac.com> Message-ID: <2792.159.46.248.233.1116398946.squirrel@mail.rna.nl> If someone can get me a small test set I can investigate and see if I can fix this. G > On May 16, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > >> I don't think that matters here: in "TeX + dvips + GS" mode, >> TeXShop doesn't use epstopdf, and uses instead the script /usr/ >> local/bin/simpdftex which doesn't call gs in the same way than >> epstopdf. epstopdf says >> >> my $pipe = "$GS -q -sDEVICE=pdfwrite $GSOPTS - >> dAutoRotatePages=/None" . >> " -sOutputFile=$OutputFilename - -c quit"; >> >> while simpdftex says >> >> #distillerprog="/usr/local/bin/gs -dCompatibility=1.3 -q - >> dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=- -c save pop" > > I'm still trying to understand how all this works and I appreciate > all of the help. I decided to look at this file and found this > > # Default distiller is ps2pdf from /usr/local/bin in no filter mode > # as the direct call to a filtering gs does not work yet for some reason > #distillerpath="" > #distillerprog="/usr/local/bin/gs -dCompatibility=1.3 -q -dNOPAUSE - > dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=- -c save pop" > #distillerfilter="yes" > > All of this is a comment. > > >> >> Hence you have to add "-dAutoRotatePages=/None" to the list of >> options when calling gs. I don't know how this could be done. >> Possibly by using the option --distiller of simpdftex. >> >> You may try in TeXShop's pref Engine > "TeX + dvips + distiller" to >> replace, for example, >> >> altpdflatex --maxpfb >> >> by >> >> altpdflatex --maxpfb --distiller="/usr/local/bin/gs - >> dCompatibility=1.3 -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite - >> dAutoRotatePages=/None -sOutputFile=- -c save pop" >> >> Absolutely untested! >> > > I did test it. No change. > > To kludge or not to kludge---change 90 to 89.99999. That'll get me by > for the moment. > > Vince > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From MacOSXTeX at damonam.ml1.net Wed May 18 03:12:46 2005 From: MacOSXTeX at damonam.ml1.net (Damon Muller) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:12:46 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Escaping URLs in BibTeX Message-ID: Okay, another bibliography question. I'm using apacite and bibtex, and a couple of my references have URLs in them. One is one of those stupid URLs generated by Notes/Domino (I think), and I think it's causing problems. When I run pdflatex over the file, I'm getting the following error: > ! Undefined control sequence. > l.87 ...73eca256bbf0000542f!OpenDocument}\bibnodot > {.} > ? If I hit Return, it does seem to work okay (that is, it prints the URL properly in the output, and pdflatex completes successfully), but it offends my sense of aesthetics that it's throwing an error at all. The URL in question is: http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs at census.nsf/ 4079a1bbd2a04b80ca256b9d00208f92/6adf95a7dda3173eca256bbf0000542f! OpenDocument. And I was wondering maybe if I needed to escape some part of it to prevent the error (the '!' or '@' characters, maybe). And if so, how do you actually escape them in BibTex (I tried putting a '\' before the '!', but that didn't seem to make a difference)? If it's relevant, this is inside a \url{} tag, using the URL package. (I'm not sure what the '\bibnodot{.}' bit does, but the apacite documentation uses it with its URLs, so I am as well.) The full bibtex entry (from BibDesk) is: @techreport{abs02, Address = {Canberra, ACT}, Author = {{Australian Bureau of Statistics}}, Date-Added = {2005-04-16 20:12:16 +1000}, Date-Modified = {2005-05-18 16:21:02 +1000}, Howpublished = {Retrieved 15 December, 2004, from \url{http:// www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs at census.nsf/ 4079a1bbd2a04b80ca256b9d00208f92/6adf95a7dda3173eca256bbf0000542f! OpenDocument}\bibnodot{.}}, Institution = {{Australian Bureau of Statistics}}, Local-Url = {file://localhost/Users/damon/Documents/Papers/Filed/ Australian%20Bureau%20of%20Statistics2002a.pdf}, Month = {nov}, Title = {2001 Census Basic Community Profile and Snapshot}, Type = {\bibnotype}, Year = {2002}} -- It so happens that I have mail-order degrees in muderology and murderonomy. -- Dr. Zoidberg --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From stephen.anderson at yale.edu Wed May 18 05:41:48 2005 From: stephen.anderson at yale.edu (Stephen Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 19:41:48 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? Message-ID: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> I see BibDesk has reached the 1.0RC1 stage, but as far as I can tell it still doesn't support cross references. This makes it unusable for me, because (like many others, I suspect) I have large bibliography files organized to avoid duplication of information when several articles are from the same collection. I think I once found some discussion about this in a BibDesk news group, and it sounded like something people were fairly clear about how to implement, but nothing had actually been done. Is there any chance that this feature will appear at some point? I'd REALLY like to use this application.... -- Steve Anderson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 18 05:43:18 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:43:18 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Undesired Rotated Figure in PSTricks In-Reply-To: References: <1AF2E071-6623-43B2-ACB6-7B92C92A9642@xs4all.nl> <96D6248D-EFFB-46E1-838F-FE4FE6B90585@mac.com> Message-ID: Le 18 mai 05 ? 07:25, Vince McGarry a ?crit : > I'm still trying to understand how all this works and I appreciate > all of the help. I decided to look at this file and found this > > # Default distiller is ps2pdf from /usr/local/bin in no filter mode > # as the direct call to a filtering gs does not work yet for some > reason > #distillerpath="" > #distillerprog="/usr/local/bin/gs -dCompatibility=1.3 -q -dNOPAUSE - > dBATCH -sDEVICE=pdfwrite -sOutputFile=- -c save pop" > #distillerfilter="yes" > > All of this is a comment. Right. I should have looked closer. > To kludge or not to kludge---change 90 to 89.99999. That'll get me > by for the moment. I've been trying many things in TeXShop. No luck. The actual distiller used by altpdflatex is: distillerprog="ps2pdf13" which turns eventually into /usr/local/bin/ps2pdfwr. Given ps2pdf doesn't accept options (or at least not in a syntax understandable by me) I finally edited this ps2pdfwr, using "sudo pico" in Terminal and adding the option -dAutoRotatePages=/None, so that the last line of this file became: exec $GS_EXECUTABLE $OPTIONS -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH - dAutoRotatePages=/None -sDEVICE=pdfwrite "-sOutputFile=$outfile" $OPTIONS -c .setpdfwrite -f "$infile" Tested the result with the pstricks example in your first message: > \documentclass[11pt]{article} > > \usepackage{multido} > > \usepackage{pstricks} > \usepackage{pst-node} > > \begin{document} > \newcommand{\Salary}[1]{#1} > \begin{pspicture}(1.5,-2.5)(10.5,3.5) > \psline(2,0)(10,0) > \multido{\iA=2+1}{9}{ > \psline(\iA,-0.2)(\iA,0.2) > \uput{24pt}[-90]{90}(\iA,0.5){\Salary{\iA}} > } > \end{pspicture} > > \begin{pspicture}(1.5,-2.5)(10.5,3.5) > \psline(2,0)(10,0) > \multido{\iA=2+1}{9}{ > \psline(\iA,-0.2)(\iA,0.2) > \uput{24pt}[-90]{90}(\iA,0.5){\Salary{\iA}} > } > \psline(2.5,0.8)(2.5,1.2) > \psline(9,0.8)(9,1.2) > \psline(4,2.3)(4,2.7) > \psline(8,2.3)(8,2.7) > \psline(2.5,1)(9,1) > \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](3.5,0.5) > (5,1.5) > \psline(4,0.5)(4,1.5) > \psline(4,2.5)(8,2.5) > \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](4.5,2) > (6.5,3) > \psline(5.5,2)(5.5,3) > \pcline[linestyle=none](6.5,2.5)(8,2.5) > \bput{0}{Opera} > \pcline[linestyle=none](5,1)(9,1) > \bput{0}{Country} > \end{pspicture} > > \renewcommand{\Salary}[1]{#10,000} > \begin{pspicture}(1.5,-2.5)(10.5,3.5) > \psline(2,0)(10,0) > \multido{\iA=2+1}{9}{ > \psline(\iA,-0.2)(\iA,0.2) > \uput{24pt}[-90]{90}(\iA,0.5){\Salary{\iA}} > } > \psline(2.5,0.8)(2.5,1.2) > \psline(9,0.8)(9,1.2) > \psline(4,2.3)(4,2.7) > \psline(8,2.3)(8,2.7) > \psline(2.5,1)(9,1) > \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](3.5,0.5) > (5,1.5) > \psline(4,0.5)(4,1.5) > \psline(4,2.5)(8,2.5) > \psframe[fillstyle=solid,fillcolor=lightgray](4.5,2) > (6.5,3) > \psline(5.5,2)(5.5,3) > \pcline[linestyle=none](6.5,2.5)(8,2.5) > \bput{0}{Opera} > \pcline[linestyle=none](5,1)(9,1) > \bput{0}{Country} > \end{pspicture} > \end{document} Eureka! That works. Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 18 06:06:53 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:06:53 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Undesired Rotated Figure in PSTricks In-Reply-To: References: <1AF2E071-6623-43B2-ACB6-7B92C92A9642@xs4all.nl> <96D6248D-EFFB-46E1-838F-FE4FE6B90585@mac.com> Message-ID: <8F91FFCA-CE7A-4B90-B743-E4B2DBA61147@mac.com> Le 18 mai 05 ? 11:43, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > Eureka! That works. On the other hand I tried also to open the intermediary .ps file, created by TeXShop in the process .tex -> .dvi -> .ps -> .pdf, directly in the Finder. This uses Apple's built-in distiller /usr/bin/ pstopdf, and yields the same result as originally before modifying ps2pdfwr: automatic rotation of the page, becoming landscape. Thus it seems automatic rotation is more or less established as a standard, and by changing it in the scripts ps2pdf (of GS) and epstopdf (of TeX) we might break what a user coming from a non-TeX background would expect to be the default: automatic rotation. It might then make sense to keep automatic rotation as the default for both ps2pdf and epstopdf, but provide easy switches for the user to modify this default on a per-file basis or in a pref file. Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ross at ics.mq.edu.au Wed May 18 08:51:19 2005 From: ross at ics.mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:51:19 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Undesired Rotated Figure in PSTricks In-Reply-To: <8F91FFCA-CE7A-4B90-B743-E4B2DBA61147@mac.com> References: <1AF2E071-6623-43B2-ACB6-7B92C92A9642@xs4all.nl> <96D6248D-EFFB-46E1-838F-FE4FE6B90585@mac.com> <8F91FFCA-CE7A-4B90-B743-E4B2DBA61147@mac.com> Message-ID: Hi Bruno, On 18/05/2005, at 8:06 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 18 mai 05 ? 11:43, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > >> Eureka! That works. > > On the other hand I tried also to open the intermediary .ps file, > created by TeXShop in the process .tex -> .dvi -> .ps -> .pdf, > directly in the Finder. This uses Apple's built-in distiller > /usr/bin/pstopdf, and yields the same result as originally before > modifying ps2pdfwr: automatic rotation of the page, becoming > landscape. > > Thus it seems automatic rotation is more or less established as a > standard, No. You can read a bit about it in the Ghostscript documentation; e.g. /usr/local/share/ghostscript/8.13/doc/ (or similar location) in the files: History6.htm and Ps2pdf.htm That it doesn't appear until History6.htm indicates that it is a quite recent addition. (It also appears in History4.htm with a comment that it doesn't actually do anything yet!) It's described as an "Acrobat Distiller" parameter; i.e. provided only because Acrobat has such a feature. Here is an extract from Ps2pdf.htm >> By default Ghostscript determines viewing page orientation based on >> the dominant >> text orientation on the page. Sometimes, when the page has text in >> several >> orientations or has no text at all, wrong orientation can be selected. >> >>

>> Acrobat Distiller parameter AutoRotatePages controls >> the >> automatic orientation selection algorithm. On Ghostscript, besides >> input stream, Distiller parameters can be given as command line >> arguments. To my mind, this is fine when Ghostscript is being used to generate full pages. However gs is also used to handle single images within larger documents, for which the concept of "dominant text orientation" is just not applicable. For example, what if you want a single sideways rotated word or letter, or just a clipped part of a letter --- easy enough to program in PostScript, but Ghostscript seems to want to turn it back to upright. Personally I think it quite wrong that AutoRotatePages is turned on by default in Ghostscript generally, so now needs to be explicitly set to /None in scripts that had been working quite fine before this "feature" appeared. > and by changing it in the scripts ps2pdf (of GS) and epstopdf (of TeX) > we might break what a user coming from a non-TeX background would > expect to be the default: automatic rotation. It may indeed be expected by Acrobat users, in non-scripted settings, say. > It might then make sense to keep automatic rotation as the default for > both ps2pdf and epstopdf, but provide easy switches for the user to > modify this default on a per-file basis or in a pref file. I would say that users of these generally do *not* expect to see auto-rotation. This can cause quite unexpected results, as has been reported here previously. Hope this helps, Ross > > Bruno Voisin > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross at maths.mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 +2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia fax: +61 +2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Wed May 18 09:42:14 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 06:42:14 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> Message-ID: <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> On May 18, 2005, at 02:41, Stephen Anderson wrote: > I see BibDesk has reached the 1.0RC1 stage, but as far as I can > tell it still doesn't support cross references. This makes it > unusable for me, because (like many others, I suspect) I have large > bibliography files organized to avoid duplication of information > when several articles are from the same collection. Just to be clear: BibDesk supports items with the crossref field just fine. You can add it, edit it, and save it. > I think I once found some discussion about this in a BibDesk news > group, and it sounded like something people were fairly clear about > how to implement, but nothing had actually been done. Is there any > chance that this feature will appear at some point? I'd REALLY > like to use this application.... Nothing has been done, or will be done for version 1, because we (the developers) have no clear idea of what people who use this feature want. It's unfortunate that BibDesk is unusable for you, although I know a number of people (myself included) who are using BibDesk with large files. If anyone has suggestions for crossref, please note them in this RFE to we can track the issue . -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From joseph.slater at wright.edu Wed May 18 10:08:51 2005 From: joseph.slater at wright.edu (Joseph C. Slater) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:08:51 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 18, 2005, at 9:42 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > On May 18, 2005, at 02:41, Stephen Anderson wrote: > > >> I see BibDesk has reached the 1.0RC1 stage, but as far as I can >> tell it still doesn't support cross references. This makes it >> unusable for me, because (like many others, I suspect) I have >> large bibliography files organized to avoid duplication of >> information when several articles are from the same collection. >> > > Just to be clear: BibDesk supports items with the crossref field > just fine. You can add it, edit it, and save it. > > I am simultaneously intrigued and confused. However, for reference, this is what the bibdesk help says about crossref: "BibDesk Does Not Recognize crossref BibDesk does not currently take advantage of the BibTeX crossref feature for display or searching, but if you use crossrefs, using BibDesk will not break them. If you would like to send feedback about this, see Getting More Help." I'm confused then what exactly Bibdesk does with crossrefs (or what it should do, for that matter.). Joe --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From pierre.chatelier at club-internet.fr Wed May 18 10:20:36 2005 From: pierre.chatelier at club-internet.fr (Pierre Chatelier) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:20:36 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] LaTeXiT In-Reply-To: <796B169C-A80F-4B73-96C6-00C13C8A2764@xs4all.nl> References: <0e00f94b2b24e07b89f966dd636251ec@club-internet.fr> <75A0DB62-8A91-41A0-87CF-5424112FE535@mac.com> <46f6f51c96eb331a3ee6d07129fd07d3@club-internet.fr> <7BDF5281-FD02-4A24-8D8C-AA91578ADAD2@xs4all.nl> <796B169C-A80F-4B73-96C6-00C13C8A2764@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <6f6d67d3a68b04461182d1a78c960c63@club-internet.fr> Hello, With Maarten Sneep's snippet example, I am more and more convinced that a good solution will be found using pdflatex instead of the latex/dvips/epstopdf toolchain. >> Do you also plan to make a study on how to magnify a document to a >> particular font size ? > There are some dirty tricks, using the \resizebox command. In fact, I finally thought that since we are generating PDF, we could delegate the magnification to the LaTeXiT application. MacOS X's APIs certainly do that very well. A last trick that seems a problem to me : in your snippet example, we find $\displaystyle ...an equation... $ \displaystyle is here because it seems that $$...$$ or \[...\] are not allowed. This is a problem : since we are asking the user to simply typeset some LaTeX source code, without bothering of the complex part of the document, the user may want to typeset : Hello $$world$$ And then, by pasting that into the template source code, it would not work because of the $$. Why is this $$ refused, and is there some way to enable it ? Regards, Pierre --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From vmcgarry at austin.rr.com Wed May 18 10:28:36 2005 From: vmcgarry at austin.rr.com (Vince McGarry) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:28:36 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Undesired Rotated Figure in PSTricks In-Reply-To: References: <1AF2E071-6623-43B2-ACB6-7B92C92A9642@xs4all.nl> <96D6248D-EFFB-46E1-838F-FE4FE6B90585@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 18, 2005, at 4:43 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Eureka! That works. > This is enlightening and it does work. Thanks, Bruno. Ross's remarks are interesting, as well. Although this recent addition may not be the best choice for "default" behavior, it appears that this will be the expected behavior of these scripts from now on. > It might then make sense to keep automatic rotation as the default > for both ps2pdf and epstopdf, but provide easy switches for the > user to modify this default on a per-file basis or in a pref file. Is it easy to provide "easy switches?" Vince --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Wed May 18 10:26:36 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 07:26:36 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 18, 2005, at 07:08, Joseph C. Slater wrote: > > On May 18, 2005, at 9:42 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > > >> >> On May 18, 2005, at 02:41, Stephen Anderson wrote: >> >> >> >>> I see BibDesk has reached the 1.0RC1 stage, but as far as I can >>> tell it still doesn't support cross references. This makes it >>> unusable for me, because (like many others, I suspect) I have >>> large bibliography files organized to avoid duplication of >>> information when several articles are from the same collection. >>> >>> >> >> Just to be clear: BibDesk supports items with the crossref field >> just fine. You can add it, edit it, and save it. >> > I am simultaneously intrigued and confused. However, for reference, > this is what the bibdesk help says about crossref: > "BibDesk Does Not Recognize crossref > > BibDesk does not currently take advantage of the BibTeX crossref > feature for display or searching, but if you use crossrefs, using > BibDesk will not break them. If you would like to send feedback > about this, see Getting More Help." > > I'm confused then what exactly Bibdesk does with crossrefs If they're in your file, BibDesk won't break them (say by expanding them and saving them as expanded, which used to happen with macros). Suppose item A has title and author fields in common with item B, so item B is crossref'd to item A (I think this is how it works, but I don't use the things). In BibDesk, item B will appear without title and author, and hence won't be found by a search for its title or author. > (or what it should do, for that matter.). We are confused about that as well :). I'm curious as to what advantage (real or perceived) crossrefs have over filling out all fields of an entry. -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ale.languasco at poc.it Wed May 18 11:20:46 2005 From: ale.languasco at poc.it (Alessandro Languasco) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:20:46 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] strange pdflatex behaviour Message-ID: <4A18536D-E7D6-43B8-840D-E3490839A603@poc.it> Dear all, today on a Pbook 12 inches of a colleague of mine (with 10.4.1 and texshop 2.02) I noticed the following strange behaviour. Typesetting using pdflatex an easy file like this \magnification=2000 this is a trial file \end instead of obtaining a magnification of the fonts, I had a shrinking of the page in the upper left corner. It was as the \magnification command was used as a magnification factor of the page instead of the fonts. Switching to tex+ghostscript the behaviour is correct. It is really strange since the installed teTeX-TeXShop system of the colleague of mine was newly installed (the 2004 Gerben version) few minutes before and I and other three colleagues have the same installation and there's non problem. It seems to me a problem of pdflatex in combination with Tiger pdf- routines. Any other people had analogous problem? Best regards, Alessandro --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 18 11:37:51 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:37:51 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] strange pdflatex behaviour In-Reply-To: <4A18536D-E7D6-43B8-840D-E3490839A603@poc.it> References: <4A18536D-E7D6-43B8-840D-E3490839A603@poc.it> Message-ID: <33283145-151A-4329-9D9A-ADAFAED6E36C@mac.com> Le 18 mai 05 ? 17:20, Alessandro Languasco a ?crit : > Typesetting using pdflatex an easy file like this > > \magnification=2000 > > this is a trial file > > \end > > instead of obtaining a magnification of the fonts, > I had a shrinking of the page in the upper left corner. > It was as the \magnification command was used as a magnification > factor of the page instead of the fonts. I don't think that's connected with Tiger. It arises because of a change in the design of TeXLive 2004: pdfTeX takes additional parameters in addition to the \hsize and \vsize of TeX, namely \pdfpageheight and \pdfpagewidth defining the MediaBox of the PDF document, and the ways these are affected by \mag and \magnification have changed with TL2004. There's been a thread "R?exp : [tex-live] [Fwd: [OS X TeX] Bug in latest pdfTeX (and/or teTeX) with respect to \magnification?]" about these issues on 21-22 December 2004, to which one of the developers of pdfTeX (Hartmut Henkel) contributed. After re-reading very rapidly some of the messages in this thread, I think what should be done is replacing \magnification=2000 by \mag=2000 \input pdftexconfig Also, it's not advised to use \mag or \magnification with LaTeX. It's supposed to be a plain-TeX-specific thing, told incompatible with LaTeX in the LaTeX manual. Following is one message from the original thread (with email addresses removed). HTH, Bruno Voisin > From: Hartmut Henkel > Date: 21 December 2004 01:16:00 GMT+01:00 > To: Gerben Wierda > Subject: Re: [tex-live] [Fwd: [OS X TeX] Bug in latest pdfTeX (and/ > or teTeX) with respect to \magnification?] > > On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Gerben Wierda wrote: > > >> I saw this message on the TeX on Mac OS X list. Not being a pdfTeX >> expert (I just redistribute) I wondered what is going on. Can someone >> educate me? >> > > will try... :-) > > >> G >> >> ---------------------------- Original Message >> ---------------------------- >> Subject: [OS X TeX] Bug in latest pdfTeX (and/or teTeX) with >> respect to >> \magnification? From: "Bruno Voisin" >> Date: Mon, December 20, 2004 10:26 >> To: "TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List" >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ----- >> >> Hello, >> >> I've just noticed something odd, when typesetting a letter in plain >> TeX for a change: >> >> - The setup is TL2004, installed via i-Installer with A4 selected as >> the default paper size. >> >> - When \magnification is not altered, in pdfTeX the paper size is A4 >> as it should. >> >> - When \magnification is changed (for example >> \magnification=\magstep1), the page size (ie the width and height of >> text) remains A4 but the paper size (ie the size of the physcal sheet >> of paper) is affected by the magnification. >> > > The \magnification macro (not a primitive!) does not only set the > magnification factor, it also sets the \hsize and \vsize to true > dimensions with letter default, see plain.tex. So in the general > non-letter case one should say \mag=\magstep1 instead of using > \magnification. > > >> It seems that in TL2004 the file pdftex.cfg has vanished and is >> replaced by >> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/generic/config/ >> pdftexconfig.tex, >> which contains all the proper settings: >> >> \pdfpagewidth=594.99 true bp >> \pdfpageheight=841.99 true bp >> \pdfhorigin=1 true in >> \pdfvorigin=1 true in >> >> - When this file is not read, the above result is obtained. >> >> - When this file is explicitly read (by \input pdftexconfig) after >> setting the magnification, namely: >> >> \magnification=\magstep1 >> \input pdftexconfig >> >> then the paper size is brought back to A4 as it should. >> >> - When this file is read before setting the magnification, namely: >> >> \input pdftexconfig >> \magnification=\magstep1 >> >> then an error is produced: >> >> (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/generic/config/ >> pdftexconfig.tex) >> ! Incompatible magnification (1200); >> the previous value will be retained (1000). >> \m at g ->\mag \count@ \hsize 6.5true >> in\vsize 8.9truein\dimen >> \footins >> 8truein >> >> \relax >> l.3 \magnification=\magstep1 >> > > The \hsize stuff in the error message is from the \m at g macro of > plain.tex. The error is caused by a TeX feature: After a \dimen has > been > set to a "true" dimension in a certain \mag environment, the \mag is > frozen and can't be changed any more. Now, when the file > pdftexconfig.tex is read, some \dimen are set to true dimensions, like > \pdfpagewidth, so \mag=1000 is frozen. Then comes a new \mag > (1200), and > then \hsize6.5truein from the \magnification helper macro \m at g > triggers > the error message. Other examples: > > \vsize=297truemm \mag=\magstep1 \hsize=210truemm \bye > > gives a similar error message in TeX. It's nothing special with > pdftex. > And > > \vsize=297truemm \mag=\magstep1 \hsize=210mm \bye > > is ok, as is this: > > \vsize=297mm \mag=\magstep1 \hsize=210truemm \bye > > A try on a few hints to avoid this true dimensions weirdness: > > * Set \mag early. > > * If you set anything to true dimensions _before_ setting \mag, you > can't do _after_ setting \mag. Vice versa. > > * Set all necessary \dimen to true dimensions after \mag, even when > they > already have had non-true values before \mag -- just to be sure, that > everything comes out right. For pdftex don't forget to set > \pdfpagewidth/height, \pdfhorigin, and \pdfvorigin to the wished true > dimensions. > > * Or, prescale the \dimen to a non-true dimension so that it comes out > right after the \mag has been set to a new value. > > >> Is there something obvious I've done wrong? Or is this a bug in >> pdfTeX? >> > > It should be inline with how TeX's \mag is supposed to work. > > >> I've verified the same occurs with >> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/plain/base/story.tex, thus it >> doesn't seem specific to my TeX input file. >> >> Bruno Voisin >> > > Regards, Hartmut --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macplanet at macnews.de Wed May 18 12:00:11 2005 From: macplanet at macnews.de (Matthias Damm) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 18:00:11 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> Message-ID: <013737B3-8174-4F7B-AFF5-CCEB065FE0F4@macnews.de> Hi, >> I see BibDesk has reached the 1.0RC1 stage, but as far as I can >> tell it still doesn't support cross references. This makes it >> unusable for me, because (like many others, I suspect) I have >> large bibliography files organized to avoid duplication of >> information when several articles are from the same collection. >> > > Just to be clear: BibDesk supports items with the crossref field > just fine. You can add it, edit it, and save it. This is true in the sense that BibDesk in fact does not break anything in a .bib file containing crossrefs. However there are two or three problems with crossrefs which make it (at least) uncomfortable to work with crossrefs: - The Title/Booktitle problem. Crossrefs will not reference to the correct title of the referenced book or whatever if the book's title is given only in the Title, but not in the Booktitle field. Of course you can easily fill out the booktitle field manually, but it was much nicer if BibDesk could copy the content of the Title field to Booktitle automatically for types like book, proceedings etc. - The sorting problem. Crossrefs work only if the referenced items appear after the referencing items in the .bib file. This means that in the moment if you have a .bib file like @Inbook{...} @Book{...} @Inbook{...} (with the Inbooks referencing to the Book), only the first Inbook will work, the second one will not. (see ch. 13.2.5 in the Companion) There is also a problem with the preview, which of course does not show referenced items at the moment. While full crossref support (i.e. BibDesk showing the referenced information automatically etc.) was nice but not necessary, the items mentioned above, especially the sorting problem, imho are crucial and will cause some problems for everybody using crossrefs! I am not sure how the sorting could be done easily, but (as I had already suggested) perhaps it is possible to add a field which contains information about the desired sort order, such as giving all Inbooks a smaller number than the Books etc. After that, Bibtool could do the sorting quite easily, and perhaps even could be called by BibDesk. > Nothing has been done, or will be done for version 1, because we > (the developers) have no clear idea of what people who use this > feature want. It's unfortunate that BibDesk is unusable for you, > although I know a number of people (myself included) who are using > BibDesk with large files. > > If anyone has suggestions for crossref, please note them in this > RFE to we can track the issue index.php?func=detail&aid=1175264&group_id=61487&atid=497426>. Done ... Best, Matthias -- Matthias Damm mad at macpla.net PGP key: http://macpla.net/MatthiasDamm.asc PGP fingerprint: CED3 6074 7F7D 3148 C6F3 DFF2 05FF 3A0B 0D12 4D41 --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From curt.clifton at mac.com Wed May 18 12:13:58 2005 From: curt.clifton at mac.com (Curtis Clifton) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:13:58 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> Message-ID: <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> On May 18, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: >> (or what it should do, for that matter.). > > We are confused about that as well :). I'm curious as to what > advantage (real or perceived) crossrefs have over filling out all > fields of an entry. Imagine that you need to put 6 different papers from a conference proceedings in your bib file. With cross references you can create a single entry carrying all the general information for the proceedings (conference name, location, month, year, publisher, series, volume, number, editor, ...). Then the entries for each paper only need the paper title, authors, page numbers, and the cross-reference. This can be a significant savings in data entry. This was especially true before BibDesk came along with its automatic completion of entries. Another advantage is that a data entry mistake in something like the name of the conference only needs to be corrected in one place, instead of 6. It seems to me that if an entry has a cross reference, then the data in the referenced entry should appear in the editing window for the referencing entry but shouldn't be editable there. Perhaps a small arrow icon could appear next to the non-editable field. Clicking this icon would open the referenced entry for editing. Maybe dragging one entry onto the edit window for another could be used to establish a cross reference. Searches should show the entries that would match if the cross-referenced data were in-lined. I don't know the precise semantics of cross references. For example, what happens if an entry contains a booktitle, but also has a cross reference to a book entry? Does BibTeX use the booktitle from the original entry, or does it use the title from the cross-referenced entry? Per Matthias's comment about sort order: Since cross-references make the dependencies explicit, it would be feasible to automatically sort so that referenced items appear after referencing items (assuming no cycles in the referencing graph). Curt ---------------------------------- Curtis Clifton, PhD Candidate Dept. of Computer Science, Iowa State University http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~cclifton --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macplanet at macnews.de Wed May 18 12:36:51 2005 From: macplanet at macnews.de (Matthias Damm) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 18:36:51 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> Message-ID: Am 18.05.2005 um 18:13 schrieb Curtis Clifton: >> We are confused about that as well :). I'm curious as to what >> advantage (real or perceived) crossrefs have over filling out all >> fields of an entry. >> > > Imagine that you need to put 6 different papers from a conference > proceedings in your bib file. With cross references you can create > a single entry carrying all the general information for the > proceedings (conference name, location, month, year, publisher, > series, volume, number, editor, ...). Then the entries for each > paper only need the paper title, authors, page numbers, and the > cross-reference. This can be a significant savings in data entry. > This was especially true before BibDesk came along with its > automatic completion of entries. Another advantage is that a data > entry mistake in something like the name of the conference only > needs to be corrected in one place, instead of 6. I strongly support this -- if you work with many proceedings or collections, crossrefs are priceless. There is another advantage however: Crossreferenced items appear automatically in the bibliography if more than 2 (by default, this can be changed by calling bibtex as "bibtex --min-crossrefs=x") items are referenced. AFAIK this behavior is only possible when you are using real crossrefs. > It seems to me that if an entry has a cross reference, then the > data in the referenced entry should appear in the editing window > for the referencing entry but shouldn't be editable there. Perhaps > a small arrow icon could appear next to the non-editable field. > Clicking this icon would open the referenced entry for editing. > Maybe dragging one entry onto the edit window for another could be > used to establish a cross reference. Searches should show the > entries that would match if the cross-referenced data were in-lined. Yes, something like this was very desirable for a later version! > I don't know the precise semantics of cross references. For > example, what happens if an entry contains a booktitle, but also > has a cross reference to a book entry? Does BibTeX use the > booktitle from the original entry, or does it use the title from > the cross-referenced entry? Crossrefs only replace fields which are not present in the original entry. > Per Matthias's comment about sort order: Since cross-references > make the dependencies explicit, it would be feasible to > automatically sort so that referenced items appear after > referencing items (assuming no cycles in the referencing graph). That can't happen, since referenced items must not contain crossrefs themselves. Matthias -- Matthias Damm mad at macpla.net PGP key: http://macpla.net/MatthiasDamm.asc PGP fingerprint: CED3 6074 7F7D 3148 C6F3 DFF2 05FF 3A0B 0D12 4D41 --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ale.languasco at poc.it Wed May 18 12:43:53 2005 From: ale.languasco at poc.it (Alessandro Languasco) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 18:43:53 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] strange pdflatex behaviour In-Reply-To: <33283145-151A-4329-9D9A-ADAFAED6E36C@mac.com> References: <4A18536D-E7D6-43B8-840D-E3490839A603@poc.it> <33283145-151A-4329-9D9A-ADAFAED6E36C@mac.com> Message-ID: <3D4E8714-5222-4721-BDCD-9B393F9FB66F@poc.it> Dear Bruno, tomorrow I will try to see what will happen using your suggestion. I did not remember the thread you mentioned; thanks a lot for suggesting it !! Ciao, Alessandro On 18/mag/05, at 17:37, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 18 mai 05 ? 17:20, Alessandro Languasco a ?crit : > > >> Typesetting using pdflatex an easy file like this >> >> \magnification=2000 >> >> this is a trial file >> >> \end >> >> instead of obtaining a magnification of the fonts, >> I had a shrinking of the page in the upper left corner. >> It was as the \magnification command was used as a magnification >> factor of the page instead of the fonts. >> > > I don't think that's connected with Tiger. It arises because of a > change in the design of TeXLive 2004: pdfTeX takes additional > parameters in addition to the \hsize and \vsize of TeX, namely > \pdfpageheight and \pdfpagewidth defining the MediaBox of the PDF > document, and the ways these are affected by \mag and > \magnification have changed with TL2004. > > There's been a thread "R?exp : [tex-live] [Fwd: [OS X TeX] Bug in > latest pdfTeX (and/or teTeX) with respect to \magnification?]" > about these issues on 21-22 December 2004, to which one of the > developers of pdfTeX (Hartmut Henkel) contributed. > > After re-reading very rapidly some of the messages in this thread, > I think what should be done is replacing > > \magnification=2000 > > by > > \mag=2000 > \input pdftexconfig > > Also, it's not advised to use \mag or \magnification with LaTeX. > It's supposed to be a plain-TeX-specific thing, told incompatible > with LaTeX in the LaTeX manual. > > Following is one message from the original thread (with email > addresses removed). > > HTH, > > Bruno Voisin > > > >> From: Hartmut Henkel >> Date: 21 December 2004 01:16:00 GMT+01:00 >> To: Gerben Wierda >> Subject: Re: [tex-live] [Fwd: [OS X TeX] Bug in latest pdfTeX (and/ >> or teTeX) with respect to \magnification?] >> >> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Gerben Wierda wrote: >> >> >> >>> I saw this message on the TeX on Mac OS X list. Not being a pdfTeX >>> expert (I just redistribute) I wondered what is going on. Can >>> someone >>> educate me? >>> >>> >> >> will try... :-) >> >> >> >>> G >>> >>> ---------------------------- Original Message >>> ---------------------------- >>> Subject: [OS X TeX] Bug in latest pdfTeX (and/or teTeX) with >>> respect to >>> \magnification? From: "Bruno Voisin" >>> Date: Mon, December 20, 2004 10:26 >>> To: "TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List" >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ------ >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I've just noticed something odd, when typesetting a letter in plain >>> TeX for a change: >>> >>> - The setup is TL2004, installed via i-Installer with A4 selected as >>> the default paper size. >>> >>> - When \magnification is not altered, in pdfTeX the paper size is A4 >>> as it should. >>> >>> - When \magnification is changed (for example >>> \magnification=\magstep1), the page size (ie the width and height of >>> text) remains A4 but the paper size (ie the size of the physcal >>> sheet >>> of paper) is affected by the magnification. >>> >>> >> >> The \magnification macro (not a primitive!) does not only set the >> magnification factor, it also sets the \hsize and \vsize to true >> dimensions with letter default, see plain.tex. So in the general >> non-letter case one should say \mag=\magstep1 instead of using >> \magnification. >> >> >> >>> It seems that in TL2004 the file pdftex.cfg has vanished and is >>> replaced by >>> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/generic/config/ >>> pdftexconfig.tex, >>> which contains all the proper settings: >>> >>> \pdfpagewidth=594.99 true bp >>> \pdfpageheight=841.99 true bp >>> \pdfhorigin=1 true in >>> \pdfvorigin=1 true in >>> >>> - When this file is not read, the above result is obtained. >>> >>> - When this file is explicitly read (by \input pdftexconfig) after >>> setting the magnification, namely: >>> >>> \magnification=\magstep1 >>> \input pdftexconfig >>> >>> then the paper size is brought back to A4 as it should. >>> >>> - When this file is read before setting the magnification, namely: >>> >>> \input pdftexconfig >>> \magnification=\magstep1 >>> >>> then an error is produced: >>> >>> (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/generic/config/ >>> pdftexconfig.tex) >>> ! Incompatible magnification (1200); >>> the previous value will be retained (1000). >>> \m at g ->\mag \count@ \hsize 6.5true >>> in\vsize 8.9truein\dimen >>> \footins >>> 8truein >>> >>> \relax >>> l.3 \magnification=\magstep1 >>> >>> >> >> The \hsize stuff in the error message is from the \m at g macro of >> plain.tex. The error is caused by a TeX feature: After a \dimen >> has been >> set to a "true" dimension in a certain \mag environment, the \mag is >> frozen and can't be changed any more. Now, when the file >> pdftexconfig.tex is read, some \dimen are set to true dimensions, >> like >> \pdfpagewidth, so \mag=1000 is frozen. Then comes a new \mag >> (1200), and >> then \hsize6.5truein from the \magnification helper macro \m at g >> triggers >> the error message. Other examples: >> >> \vsize=297truemm \mag=\magstep1 \hsize=210truemm \bye >> >> gives a similar error message in TeX. It's nothing special with >> pdftex. >> And >> >> \vsize=297truemm \mag=\magstep1 \hsize=210mm \bye >> >> is ok, as is this: >> >> \vsize=297mm \mag=\magstep1 \hsize=210truemm \bye >> >> A try on a few hints to avoid this true dimensions weirdness: >> >> * Set \mag early. >> >> * If you set anything to true dimensions _before_ setting \mag, you >> can't do _after_ setting \mag. Vice versa. >> >> * Set all necessary \dimen to true dimensions after \mag, even >> when they >> already have had non-true values before \mag -- just to be sure, that >> everything comes out right. For pdftex don't forget to set >> \pdfpagewidth/height, \pdfhorigin, and \pdfvorigin to the wished true >> dimensions. >> >> * Or, prescale the \dimen to a non-true dimension so that it comes >> out >> right after the \mag has been set to a new value. >> >> >> >>> Is there something obvious I've done wrong? Or is this a bug in >>> pdfTeX? >>> >>> >> >> It should be inline with how TeX's \mag is supposed to work. >> >> >> >>> I've verified the same occurs with >>> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/plain/base/story.tex, thus it >>> doesn't seem specific to my TeX input file. >>> >>> Bruno Voisin >>> >>> >> >> Regards, Hartmut >> > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Wed May 18 12:50:38 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam Maxwell) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:50:38 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> Message-ID: <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, at 09:15AM, Curtis Clifton wrote: >On May 18, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > >>> (or what it should do, for that matter.). >> >> We are confused about that as well :). I'm curious as to what >> advantage (real or perceived) crossrefs have over filling out all >> fields of an entry. > >Imagine that you need to put 6 different papers from a conference >proceedings in your bib file. With cross references you can create a >single entry carrying all the general information for the proceedings >(conference name, location, month, year, publisher, series, volume, >number, editor, ...). Then the entries for each paper only need the >paper title, authors, page numbers, and the cross-reference. This can >be a significant savings in data entry. This was especially true >before BibDesk came along with its automatic completion of entries. I think a key point here is "...before BibDesk came along...," and part of what I'd like to establish is that this is a feature that would be used. For instance, we (mainly Mike) just spent a /lot/ of time implementing macro support, which people on this list griped about, but we haven't heard any feedback on it. So either a) it rocks, we did it completely right or b) no one uses it. See the dilemma? Honestly, I'm starting to think it's better to ignore people who say an app is useless unless it has feature X. In BibDesk, you can start enter the fields that are unique to a particular entry, then drag and drop the parent crossref'd entry onto the editor window; this will overwrite the empty fields. So the savings in data entry isn't a compelling argument for me, especially since this makes your file more readable, portable, and immune to sorting problems. >Another advantage is that a data entry mistake in something like the >name of the conference only needs to be corrected in one place, instead >of 6. This argument is reasonable, and I also know that people have pre-BibDesk bib files with lots of crossrefs which they need to maintain. We've targeted some type of crossref support for a future version, but a discussion like this is needed to flesh out what it will look like. > >It seems to me that if an entry has a cross reference, then the data in >the referenced entry should appear in the editing window for the >referencing entry but shouldn't be editable there. Perhaps a small >arrow icon could appear next to the non-editable field. Clicking this >icon would open the referenced entry for editing. Maybe dragging one >entry onto the edit window for another could be used to establish a >cross reference. see my comment above :) >Searches should show the entries that would match if >the cross-referenced data were in-lined. > >I don't know the precise semantics of cross references. For example, >what happens if an entry contains a booktitle, but also has a cross >reference to a book entry? Does BibTeX use the booktitle from the >original entry, or does it use the title from the cross-referenced >entry? > >Per Matthias's comment about sort order: Since cross-references make >the dependencies explicit, it would be feasible to automatically sort >so that referenced items appear after referencing items (assuming no >cycles in the referencing graph). I think sorting is the most challenging part of the problem, really; you're suggesting that BibDesk do something that BibTeX itself can't do! I appreciate the discussion and comments. Curt, if you could add yours to the RFE, I'd appreciate it. thanks! Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From koch at math.uoregon.edu Wed May 18 12:57:16 2005 From: koch at math.uoregon.edu (Richard Koch) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 09:57:16 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 2.03 In-Reply-To: <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> Message-ID: <49A7E590-6F14-4C4D-BD22-827F8448425C@math.uoregon.edu> Folks, TeXShop 2.03 is available at http://www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop Dick koch at math.uoregon.edu --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From agoralczyk at gmail.com Tue May 17 05:22:40 2005 From: agoralczyk at gmail.com (Armin Goralczyk) Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 11:22:40 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXniscope Message-ID: <23B12EB2-79C9-4D0F-B026-33AAC52C30D3@gmail.com> Hi list I recently heard about TeXniscope and I wanted to give it a try. It opens DVI without problem, but not so with PDF. When I try to open PDF documents it just says ``The document "xyz.pdf" could not be opened''. I guess I missed something obvious (I read the Help though and changed Paths in preferences according to my setup), but at the moment I can't find it. Does anybody have a clue? Thanks for help. Greetings Armin Goralczyk -- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mgubi at mac.com Wed May 18 13:08:54 2005 From: mgubi at mac.com (Massimiliano Gubinelli) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 19:08:54 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXniscope In-Reply-To: <23B12EB2-79C9-4D0F-B026-33AAC52C30D3@gmail.com> References: <23B12EB2-79C9-4D0F-B026-33AAC52C30D3@gmail.com> Message-ID: Dear Armin, one possibility is that TeXniscope cannot convert the dvi to pdf for displaying. To check for this try on the command line to issue the command dvipdfm xyz.pdf and see if the dvipdfm program can convert the document. Optionally please it would be helpful for me to have a copy of the document for debugging (if it is possible). best, Massimiliano PS: also, look at the console (via Console.app) to see if some error messages are shown. On 17 May 2005, at 11:22, Armin Goralczyk wrote: > Hi list > > I recently heard about TeXniscope and I wanted to give it a try. It > opens DVI without problem, but not so with PDF. When I try to open > PDF documents it just says ``The document "xyz.pdf" could not be > opened''. I guess I missed something obvious (I read the Help > though and changed Paths in preferences according to my setup), but > at the moment I can't find it. Does anybody have a clue? > Thanks for help. > > Greetings > Armin Goralczyk > -- > > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mgubi at mac.com Wed May 18 13:14:53 2005 From: mgubi at mac.com (Massimiliano Gubinelli) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 19:14:53 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXniscope In-Reply-To: <23B12EB2-79C9-4D0F-B026-33AAC52C30D3@gmail.com> References: <23B12EB2-79C9-4D0F-B026-33AAC52C30D3@gmail.com> Message-ID: Sorry. The previous answer was wrong (just trying to do too much things at the same time....) Look at the console to see if some debug message is written. Optionally (and if you can) send me the pdf file or check if it can open simpler pdf files. Best, Massimiliano Gubinelli On 17 May 2005, at 11:22, Armin Goralczyk wrote: > Hi list > > I recently heard about TeXniscope and I wanted to give it a try. It > opens DVI without problem, but not so with PDF. When I try to open > PDF documents it just says ``The document "xyz.pdf" could not be > opened''. I guess I missed something obvious (I read the Help > though and changed Paths in preferences according to my setup), but > at the moment I can't find it. Does anybody have a clue? > Thanks for help. > > Greetings > Armin Goralczyk > -- > > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Wed May 18 13:22:34 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:22:34 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 2.03 In-Reply-To: <49A7E590-6F14-4C4D-BD22-827F8448425C@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: On 5/18/05 11:57 AM, "Richard Koch" wrote: > Folks, > > TeXShop 2.03 is available at > > http://www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop > > Dick > koch at math.uoregon.edu Howdy, And all I can say for now is ``aaahhhh, that feels good.'' Thanks. This version alone makes the move to 10.4 worth it! I just have to get used to the keyboard shortcuts for Preview but that is a matter of finger training. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macplanet at macnews.de Wed May 18 13:31:42 2005 From: macplanet at macnews.de (Matthias Damm) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 19:31:42 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> Message-ID: Am 18.05.2005 um 18:50 schrieb Adam Maxwell: > In BibDesk, you can start enter the fields that are unique to a > particular entry, then drag and drop the parent crossref'd entry > onto the editor window; this will overwrite the empty fields. So > the savings in data entry isn't a compelling argument for me, > especially since this makes your file more readable, portable, and > immune to sorting problems. This is nice, definitely, but still: Crossrefs are not just something that makes managing your .bib file easier, but they are a BibTeX feature. I would not like to lose the feature which automatically puts referencing and referenced items to the bibliography (see my answer to Cifton). I can absolutely understand your "don't waste time to implement something nobody will use" point. And, as I had pointed out before, it is possible to use BibDesk with crossrefs reasonably well. (The sorting problem is partly solved if you enter the referenced item (i.e. the book) before the referencing item (the inbook); since BibDesk seems to append new items to the top of the file, this automatically causes the items to appear in the correct order. >> Per Matthias's comment about sort order: Since cross-references make >> the dependencies explicit, it would be feasible to automatically sort >> so that referenced items appear after referencing items (assuming no >> cycles in the referencing graph). >> > > I think sorting is the most challenging part of the problem, > really; you're suggesting that BibDesk do something that BibTeX > itself can't do! I appreciate the discussion and comments. Curt, > if you could add yours to the RFE, I'd appreciate it. BibTeX can't, but tools like Bibtool can. Unfortunately nobody from the developers has commented on my idea to simply provide Bibtool with the information it needs to perform the search. If I see this correctly, it was enough, if some "CrossrefSearchOrder = x" line could be appended to each item in the .bib file, with x being 1 for all inbook, incollection and inproceedings items, and 2 for each book, proceedings etc. items. Wouldn't that be a rather minor change? If BibTeX could even call Bibtool with the appropriate options on the file, this would solve the problem in a rather simple way, imho. (Bibtool is available as an i-Installer package, so you can assume it to be or get installed on every MacOS X system.) If the Title/Booktitle problem was solved as well, I personally was totally happy ... Best, Matthias -- Matthias Damm mad at macpla.net PGP key: http://macpla.net/MatthiasDamm.asc PGP fingerprint: CED3 6074 7F7D 3148 C6F3 DFF2 05FF 3A0B 0D12 4D41 --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Wed May 18 13:54:20 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam Maxwell) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 10:54:20 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> Message-ID: <16245967.1116438860632.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, at 10:32AM, Matthias Damm wrote: > >Am 18.05.2005 um 18:50 schrieb Adam Maxwell: > >> In BibDesk, you can start enter the fields that are unique to a >> particular entry, then drag and drop the parent crossref'd entry >> onto the editor window; this will overwrite the empty fields. So >> the savings in data entry isn't a compelling argument for me, >> especially since this makes your file more readable, portable, and >> immune to sorting problems. > >This is nice, definitely, but still: Crossrefs are not just something >that makes managing your .bib file easier, but they are a BibTeX >feature. I would not like to lose the feature which automatically >puts referencing and referenced items to the bibliography (see my >answer to Cifton). You're making things much more clear, and I appreciate your time. However, I'm still not sure about the "min-crossrefs=" part. What does this do for your bibliography? >I can absolutely understand your "don't waste time to implement >something nobody will use" point. > >And, as I had pointed out before, it is possible to use BibDesk with >crossrefs reasonably well. (The sorting problem is partly solved if >you enter the referenced item (i.e. the book) before the referencing >item (the inbook); since BibDesk seems to append new items to the top >of the file, this automatically causes the items to appear in the >correct order. Correct, new entries are added at the top of the list (this was sort of fuzzy before 1.0RC1, but should be reliable now). Reordering has to be done in a text editor, unfortunately. >>> Per Matthias's comment about sort order: Since cross-references make >>> the dependencies explicit, it would be feasible to automatically sort >>> so that referenced items appear after referencing items (assuming no >>> cycles in the referencing graph). >>> >> >> I think sorting is the most challenging part of the problem, >> really; you're suggesting that BibDesk do something that BibTeX >> itself can't do! I appreciate the discussion and comments. Curt, >> if you could add yours to the RFE, I'd appreciate it. > >BibTeX can't, but tools like Bibtool can. > >Unfortunately nobody from the developers has commented on my idea to >simply provide Bibtool with the information it needs to perform the >search. Part of the problem from my perspective is that a whole separate front end could be written for BibTool, and we don't want to support all of its features (this is a slippery slope). Further, it introduces potential for third-party bugs; for instance, how does BibTool handle Unicode strings? What sort of parsing engine does it use? Don't get me wrong: BibTool is incredibly useful, but it's difficult to debug and use. Re-implementing a small part of its functionality in our Cocoa object model will be less painful in the long run (see the new "select duplicates" feature which was <10 lines of code). >If I see this correctly, it was enough, if some "CrossrefSearchOrder >= x" line could be appended to each item in the .bib file, with x >being 1 for all inbook, incollection and inproceedings items, and 2 >for each book, proceedings etc. items. > >Wouldn't that be a rather minor change? >If BibTeX could even call Bibtool with the appropriate options on the >file, this would solve the problem in a rather simple way, imho. >(Bibtool is available as an i-Installer package, so you can assume it >to be or get installed on every MacOS X system.) > >If the Title/Booktitle problem was solved as well, I personally was >totally happy ... This is the most urgent issue, I think, but I've forgotten the particulars of the discussion (this is why we like those bug reports, even if the sf.net tracker is hideously ugly). > > >Best, >Matthias > >-- >Matthias Damm >mad at macpla.net >PGP key: http://macpla.net/MatthiasDamm.asc >PGP fingerprint: CED3 6074 7F7D 3148 C6F3 DFF2 05FF 3A0B 0D12 4D41 > >--------------------- Info --------------------- >Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ >TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >List Post: > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Wed May 18 13:57:29 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:57:29 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXniscope In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/18/05 12:14 PM, "Massimiliano Gubinelli" wrote: > Sorry. The previous answer was wrong (just trying to do too much > things at the same time....) > > Look at the console to see if some debug message is written. > Optionally (and if you can) send me the pdf file or check if it can > open simpler pdf files. > > Best, > Massimiliano Gubinelli Howdy, I'm noticing the same thing. I randomly chose a .pdf documentation file which opens fine in Preview and tried to open it in TeXniscope and the program just sat there. Looking in the colsole.log I see lots of messages missing or invalid `MediaBox'. missing or invalid `MediaBox'. missing or invalid `MediaBox'. ... This is under OS X 10.4.1. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bkerstetter at mac.com Wed May 18 14:16:58 2005 From: bkerstetter at mac.com (Bob Kerstetter) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 13:16:58 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 2.03 In-Reply-To: <49A7E590-6F14-4C4D-BD22-827F8448425C@math.uoregon.edu> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> <49A7E590-6F14-4C4D-BD22-827F8448425C@math.uoregon.edu> Message-ID: On May 18, 2005, at 11:57 AM, Richard Koch wrote: > TeXShop 2.03 is available at > > http://www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop Wow! I installed Tiger for this: -- Improved the PDFsearch code (i.e., sync) for \include{file}, \input{file}, and \import{file}. Users who had trouble using sync with large projects may find that it works now. It appears to work very nicely here. Very cool. Thanks Dick. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macplanet at macnews.de Wed May 18 15:34:43 2005 From: macplanet at macnews.de (Matthias Damm) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:34:43 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <16245967.1116438860632.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> <16245967.1116438860632.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> Message-ID: <116BD8E1-9C1B-47AA-88E9-43DE2ADF3661@macnews.de> Am 18.05.2005 um 19:54 schrieb Adam Maxwell: >> This is nice, definitely, but still: Crossrefs are not just something >> that makes managing your .bib file easier, but they are a BibTeX >> feature. I would not like to lose the feature which automatically >> puts referencing and referenced items to the bibliography (see my >> answer to Cifton). >> > > You're making things much more clear, and I appreciate your time. > However, I'm still not sure about the "min-crossrefs=" part. What > does this do for your bibliography? Assume that you have a proceedings volume and you cite two (or more) articles from it. When you don't use crossref, you will end up with two entries in your bibliography, each of with containing the full bibliographic data for the proceedings volume. This is kind of ugly, especially if the volume has very extensive data. When you use crossref, you will end up with two entries with the bibliographic data for each article followed by "In: ", and a separate entry with the full data for the proceedings volume. You can control this by calling bibtex with the min-crossrefs option, i.e. set the number of articles which have to exist before bibtex creates a separate entry for the proceedings volume. I am a political scientist, and this kind ob bibliography is quite usual in publications from my subject. (Was this clear? I hope so ... The LaTeX Companion also has a brief description of this feature in section 10.2.5) > Part of the problem from my perspective is that a whole separate > front end could be written for BibTool, and we don't want to > support all of its features (this is a slippery slope). Further, > it introduces potential for third-party bugs; for instance, how > does BibTool handle Unicode strings? What sort of parsing engine > does it use? Don't get me wrong: BibTool is incredibly useful, but > it's difficult to debug and use. Re-implementing a small part of > its functionality in our Cocoa object model will be less painful in > the long run (see the new "select duplicates" feature which was <10 > lines of code). O.k., I see the point. After all, I don't know much about programming (see above, I am a humanities guy ...), I see that it is a bit unfair to suggest things from a user perspective and expect you to solve all the problems which might be caused :-) >> If the Title/Booktitle problem was solved as well, I personally was >> totally happy ... >> > > This is the most urgent issue, I think, but I've forgotten the > particulars of the discussion (this is why we like those bug > reports, even if the sf.net tracker is hideously ugly). From my perspective, this is quite "easy" as well: The crossref feature is quite dumb and will ignore the proceedings volume's Title field if there is a Title field for the article (which usually is the case); but it will work correctly if the volume's title is given in the Booktitle field. Everything that would have be done is to add a Booktitle field with the Title information to all entries which might be crossref'd (and only to those), that is book and proceedings. Best, Matthias -- Matthias Damm mad at macpla.net PGP key: http://macpla.net/MatthiasDamm.asc PGP fingerprint: CED3 6074 7F7D 3148 C6F3 DFF2 05FF 3A0B 0D12 4D41 --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From curt.clifton at mac.com Wed May 18 15:50:23 2005 From: curt.clifton at mac.com (Curtis Clifton) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:50:23 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> Message-ID: <86b7a24b351e5a2d3db04d05dfe05033@mac.com> On May 18, 2005, at 11:50 AM, Adam Maxwell wrote: > On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, at 09:15AM, Curtis Clifton > wrote: > >> ? This can >> be a significant savings in data entry. This was especially true >> before BibDesk came along with its automatic completion of entries. > > I think a key point here is "...before BibDesk came along...," and > part of what I'd like to establish is that this is a feature that > would be used. For instance, we (mainly Mike) just spent a /lot/ of > time implementing macro support, which people on this list griped > about, but we haven't heard any feedback on it. So either a) it > rocks, we did it completely right or b) no one uses it. See the > dilemma? Having done open source development myself, I certainly understand the dilemma. Just for the record regarding macro support: it rocks. I use macros regularly now. Thanks! > Honestly, I'm starting to think it's better to ignore people who say > an app is useless unless it has feature X. You might be right about that. If someone is refusing to use an app based on missing feature X, then they probably haven't realized that features Y and Z are also missing. So fixing X just initiates tail chasing. On the other hand, many people have massive existing bib files that act as a barrier to entry. The research group I belong to has many thousands of entries in the shared bib files. These files heavily use macros and cross references. I finally decided several months ago, given that BibDesk was so much better than the other options, to just start a new bib file and migrate items from the shared files to my personal bib file as needed. Macro support has made this much easier. > ?I think sorting is the most challenging part of the problem, really; > you're suggesting that BibDesk do something that BibTeX itself can't > do! Sure, but BibDesk does lots of things that BibTeX can't do. I haven't dug into the source code yet, but I suspect having the entire bib file sucked into an object model should make the sorting fairly easy, especially since transitive cross-refs aren't allow. One pass over the set of elements would yield the subset that serve as targets for cross-references. The file emitter could just save this subset for output after the other entries. Please note that I don't intend here to cast any aspersions if no one decides to take this on. "Theoretically easy" does not equal "practically easy"---let alone interesting, fun, or motivating for a volunteer coder. Maybe I'll have time to work on a patch after my dissertation is done (6 weeks!). As much benefit as I've gotten from BibDesk, I really should try to give something back. > I appreciate the discussion and comments. Curt, if you could add > yours to the RFE, I'd appreciate it. Done. Thanks, Curt ---------------------------------- Curtis Clifton, PhD Candidate Dept. of Computer Science, Iowa State University http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~cclifton --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From curt.clifton at mac.com Wed May 18 15:56:59 2005 From: curt.clifton at mac.com (Curtis Clifton) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:56:59 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <116BD8E1-9C1B-47AA-88E9-43DE2ADF3661@macnews.de> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> <16245967.1116438860632.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> <116BD8E1-9C1B-47AA-88E9-43DE2ADF3661@macnews.de> Message-ID: <237e1597425265eb40280a046f1e3387@mac.com> On May 18, 2005, at 2:34 PM, Matthias Damm wrote: >>> If the Title/Booktitle problem was solved as well, I personally was >>> totally happy ... >>> >> >> This is the most urgent issue, I think, but I've forgotten the >> particulars of the discussion (this is why we like those bug reports, >> even if the sf.net tracker is hideously ugly). > > From my perspective, this is quite "easy" as well: > The crossref feature is quite dumb and will ignore the proceedings > volume's Title field if there is a Title field for the article (which > usually is the case); but it will work correctly if the volume's title > is given in the Booktitle field. > Everything that would have be done is to add a Booktitle field with > the Title information to all entries which might be crossref'd (and > only to those), that is book and proceedings. Warning, technical details ahead. I don't know the BibDesk object model. But it seems like cross references could be treated using the chain-of-responsibility pattern. If the object representing an entry is missing data for a particularly field, then the request could be delegated to the object representing the cross-referenced entry (if any). The delegation would have to appropriately munge a booktitle request into a title request of the delegee, but this munging could be done with a simple hash table. (I'm assuming that field lookups use a key-value mechanism.) I'll shut up now. That's enough procrastinating for one day. Back to the dissertation... Cheers, Curt ---------------------------------- Curtis Clifton, PhD Candidate Dept. of Computer Science, Iowa State University http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~cclifton --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Wed May 18 16:09:13 2005 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:09:13 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXniscope In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am running TeXniscope 0.3.3 - compiled from the source with a few special Xcode settings, though I don't think these settings have any effect - and T. works as usual under 10.4.1. The only difference is that sometimes there are console messages like Users/claus/Documents/Downloads/TeXniscope-v0-1.3.3-src/MyDocument.m:940 2005-05-16 15:40:28.480 TeXniscope[11666] *** NSTimer discarding exception '[NOTE: this exception originated in the server.] Not Processing' that raised during firing of timer with target 5e13220 and selector 'runPrimaryTask:' which hadn't been there in 10.3. This message also strangely refers to the T. source folder and not to the application in /Applications. Claus On May 18, 2005, at 19:57, Herb Schulz wrote: > On 5/18/05 12:14 PM, "Massimiliano Gubinelli" wrote: > > >> Sorry. The previous answer was wrong (just trying to do too much >> things at the same time....) >> >> Look at the console to see if some debug message is written. >> Optionally (and if you can) send me the pdf file or check if it can >> open simpler pdf files. >> >> Best, >> Massimiliano Gubinelli >> > > Howdy, > > I'm noticing the same thing. I randomly chose a .pdf documentation > file > which opens fine in Preview and tried to open it in TeXniscope and the > program just sat there. Looking in the colsole.log I see lots of > messages > > missing or invalid `MediaBox'. > missing or invalid `MediaBox'. > missing or invalid `MediaBox'. > ... > > This is under OS X 10.4.1. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest.com) > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Wed May 18 16:29:45 2005 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:29:45 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXniscope In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29E71A97-D20C-4D46-82F8-C83BAD7C73D2@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Let me follow up on two of the special Xcode settings, since they might make a difference: - I specified OS 10.3 - processor G5 Claus On May 18, 2005, at 22:09, Claus Gerhardt wrote: > I am running TeXniscope 0.3.3 - compiled from the source with a few > special Xcode settings, though I don't think these settings have > any effect - and T. works as usual under 10.4.1. The only > difference is that sometimes there are console messages like > > Users/claus/Documents/Downloads/TeXniscope-v0-1.3.3-src/ > MyDocument.m:940 > 2005-05-16 15:40:28.480 TeXniscope[11666] *** NSTimer discarding > exception '[NOTE: this exception originated in the server.] > Not Processing' that raised during firing of timer with target > 5e13220 and selector 'runPrimaryTask:' > > which hadn't been there in 10.3. This message also strangely refers > to the T. source folder and not to the application in /Applications. > > Claus > > > > > On May 18, 2005, at 19:57, Herb Schulz wrote: > > >> On 5/18/05 12:14 PM, "Massimiliano Gubinelli" wrote: >> >> >> >>> Sorry. The previous answer was wrong (just trying to do too much >>> things at the same time....) >>> >>> Look at the console to see if some debug message is written. >>> Optionally (and if you can) send me the pdf file or check if it can >>> open simpler pdf files. >>> >>> Best, >>> Massimiliano Gubinelli >>> >>> >> >> Howdy, >> >> I'm noticing the same thing. I randomly chose a .pdf documentation >> file >> which opens fine in Preview and tried to open it in TeXniscope and >> the >> program just sat there. Looking in the colsole.log I see lots of >> messages >> >> missing or invalid `MediaBox'. >> missing or invalid `MediaBox'. >> missing or invalid `MediaBox'. >> ... >> >> This is under OS X 10.4.1. >> >> Good Luck, >> >> Herb Schulz >> (herbs at wideopenwest.com) >> >> --------------------- Info --------------------- >> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ >> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >> List Post: >> >> >> >> > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From joseph.slater at wright.edu Wed May 18 16:36:50 2005 From: joseph.slater at wright.edu (Joseph C. Slater) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:36:50 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> Message-ID: <61A9AAF5-2D27-4983-A929-4392231F94C2@wright.edu> On May 18, 2005, at 12:50 PM, Adam Maxwell wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, at 09:15AM, Curtis Clifton > wrote: > > >> On May 18, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: >> >> > > I think a key point here is "...before BibDesk came along...," and > part of what I'd like to establish is that this is a feature that > would be used. For instance, we (mainly Mike) just spent a /lot/ > of time implementing macro support, which people on this list > griped about, but we haven't heard any feedback on it. So either > a) it rocks, we did it completely right or b) no one uses it. Um, cool. I'm going to start using it. To be honest, you guys are adding features faster than I've found time to keep learning them. I'm just utterly amazed by it. I've found this with a lot of the other apps as well, but lately bibdesk is leading the pack in adding features that I haven't found out/discovered yet. I think people who weren't waiting on a feature will trickle into using it. Bibdesk has so far exceeded what my original expectations were. Honestly, I didn't see the point when you started. I could edit the file fine in an editor supporting bib files. A GUI would just slow me down. OK, now I feel like a fool. It's an awesome tool, and getting better faster than I can often keep up with. (It's that darned day job. How do you guys find time to do the work of programming!). Looking over macros, I think the answer is a). It's simple, and highly functional. > See the dilemma? Honestly, I'm starting to think it's better to > ignore people who say an app is useless unless it has feature X. > > In BibDesk, you can start enter the fields that are unique to a > particular entry, then drag and drop the parent crossref'd entry > onto the editor window; this will overwrite the empty fields. So > the savings in data entry isn't a compelling argument for me, > especially since this makes your file more readable, portable, and > immune to sorting problems. > Really cool. I'm seeing the usefulness of crossref, though. This amateur will need some training before he'd ready, though. > >> Another advantage is that a data entry mistake in something like the >> name of the conference only needs to be corrected in one place, >> instead >> of 6. >> > > This argument is reasonable, and I also know that people have pre- > BibDesk bib files with lots of crossrefs which they need to > maintain. We've targeted some type of crossref support for a > future version, but a discussion like this is needed to flesh out > what it will look like. > Here's an idea from someone who can't/won't do any of the work, so if it's junk, ignore it. I haven't a clue what effort would be needed to implement it. What if cross refs could be handled as sub-cells inside the main entry (not quite the same as the way it appears the actual .bib file is written). e.g., in the main window for a bib file, the bib entry is for the proceedings. But, when you open it up, there is some kind of GUI for adding crossref items. Maybe a pull down menu listing them, or another window (like the main bib window) listing them (probably the easiest, since the code would likely be similar). Essentially, treat the bib file as a hierarchical database. You would need a button of some sort to turn a bib item into a crossref item (fields would be copied to the "reffed" item) and the display window would show the common fields, with a new listing of the crossreffed items that can be selected and edited individually. Again, since I'm not programming this (what century do you want it?), don't take this as a request as much as a suggested logical GUI for doing this. Joe --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From michael_mccracken at mac.com Wed May 18 17:16:39 2005 From: michael_mccracken at mac.com (Michael McCracken) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:16:39 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <86b7a24b351e5a2d3db04d05dfe05033@mac.com> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> <86b7a24b351e5a2d3db04d05dfe05033@mac.com> Message-ID: <6F051EFC-B08A-4BEF-8758-369594AC4DE6@mac.com> On May 18, 2005, at 12:50 PM, Curtis Clifton wrote: > > Please note that I don't intend here to cast any aspersions if no > one decides to take this on. "Theoretically easy" does not equal > "practically easy"---let alone interesting, fun, or motivating for > a volunteer coder. Maybe I'll have time to work on a patch after > my dissertation is done (6 weeks!). As much benefit as I've gotten > from BibDesk, I really should try to give something back. Curt has hit the nail on the head here. The results from the discussion on the bibdesk mailing list a while back were that we do understand what it'll take to add this support, it's neither trivial nor terribly hard, and nobody volunteered to do it. Because of it, 1.0 will go out without it. However, this could easily make it in for a 1.1 release if someone volunteers. There are currently three active developers on the project, and I believe none of us have particularly complicated bib files. Writing code for features one doesn't personally use often results in bad design, especially in interface design, and I'd like to avoid that with BibDesk. That's why I really appreciate the effort Matthias and Curt gone to to explain the details of what crossref support entails, and for the suggestions of how to implement it. There is now a good amount of info on the feature request tracker for someone to pick it up and add the functionality, assuming they know BibDesk's internals, which of course we're always happy to re-learn in order to explain to someone new. If you are interested in tracking the progress of this issue, either bookmark the following link or visit it and sign up to monitor it. (To monitor it you need a free sourceforge account): http:// bibdesk.sf.net/track.php?rfe=1175264 Thanks for all the feedback! -mike -- Michael McCracken michael_mccracken at mac.com http://michael-mccracken.net/ --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From michael_mccracken at mac.com Wed May 18 17:30:39 2005 From: michael_mccracken at mac.com (Michael McCracken) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 14:30:39 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <61A9AAF5-2D27-4983-A929-4392231F94C2@wright.edu> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> <61A9AAF5-2D27-4983-A929-4392231F94C2@wright.edu> Message-ID: <9911850C-7061-42A4-B024-24E926A4F733@mac.com> On May 18, 2005, at 1:36 PM, Joseph C. Slater wrote: > On May 18, 2005, at 12:50 PM, Adam Maxwell wrote: > >> On Wednesday, May 18, 2005, at 09:15AM, Curtis Clifton >> wrote: >> >>> On May 18, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: >> >> I think a key point here is "...before BibDesk came along...," and >> part of what I'd like to establish is that this is a feature that >> would be used. For instance, we (mainly Mike) just spent a /lot/ >> of time implementing macro support, which people on this list >> griped about, but we haven't heard any feedback on it. So either >> a) it rocks, we did it completely right or b) no one uses it. > > Um, cool. I'm going to start using it. To be honest, you guys are > adding features faster than I've found time to keep learning them. > I'm just utterly amazed by it. I've found this with a lot of the > other apps as well, but lately bibdesk is leading the pack in > adding features that I haven't found out/discovered yet. I have found that there are at least a few features that nobody really knows about, except for me - certainly some of the various drag and drop features, and Adam's fantastic autocompletion plugin for Cocoa text editors. We're familiar since we wrote them, but if there are features that aren't well known, I'd be interested to hear suggestions of how to improve that situation. Perhaps just a list-wide note: WARNING - BibDesk may be more useful than it appears. > I think people who weren't waiting on a feature will trickle into > using it. Bibdesk has so far exceeded what my original expectations > were. Honestly, I didn't see the point when you started. I could > edit the file fine in an editor supporting bib files. A GUI would > just slow me down. OK, now I feel like a fool. It's an awesome > tool, and getting better faster than I can often keep up with. > (It's that darned day job. How do you guys find time to do the work > of programming!). > > Looking over macros, I think the answer is a). It's simple, and > highly functional. Thanks! Glad to hear it is useful. >> See the dilemma? Honestly, I'm starting to think it's better to >> ignore people who say an app is useless unless it has feature X. >> >> In BibDesk, you can start enter the fields that are unique to a >> particular entry, then drag and drop the parent crossref'd entry >> onto the editor window; this will overwrite the empty fields. So >> the savings in data entry isn't a compelling argument for me, >> especially since this makes your file more readable, portable, and >> immune to sorting problems. > > Really cool. I'm seeing the usefulness of crossref, though. This > amateur will need some training before he'd ready, though. > >>> Another advantage is that a data entry mistake in something like the >>> name of the conference only needs to be corrected in one place, >>> instead >>> of 6. >> >> This argument is reasonable, and I also know that people have pre- >> BibDesk bib files with lots of crossrefs which they need to >> maintain. We've targeted some type of crossref support for a >> future version, but a discussion like this is needed to flesh out >> what it will look like. > > Here's an idea from someone who can't/won't do any of the work, so > if it's junk, ignore it. I haven't a clue what effort would be > needed to implement it. > > What if cross refs could be handled as sub-cells inside the main > entry (not quite the same as the way it appears the actual .bib > file is written). e.g., in the main window for a bib file, the bib > entry is for the proceedings. But, when you open it up, there is > some kind of GUI for adding crossref items. Maybe a pull down menu > listing them, or another window (like the main bib window) listing > them (probably the easiest, since the code would likely be > similar). Essentially, treat the bib file as a hierarchical > database. You would need a button of some sort to turn a bib item > into a crossref item (fields would be copied to the "reffed" item) > and the display window would show the common fields, with a new > listing of the crossreffed items that can be selected and edited > individually. > > Again, since I'm not programming this (what century do you want > it?), don't take this as a request as much as a suggested logical > GUI for doing this. Thanks for the suggestion - I've added it to the tracker item so we don't lose it. -mike -- Michael McCracken michael_mccracken at mac.com http://michael-mccracken.net/ --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From MacOSXTeX at damonam.ml1.net Wed May 18 20:27:15 2005 From: MacOSXTeX at damonam.ml1.net (Damon Muller) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:27:15 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <9911850C-7061-42A4-B024-24E926A4F733@mac.com> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> <61A9AAF5-2D27-4983-A929-4392231F94C2@wright.edu> <9911850C-7061-42A4-B024-24E926A4F733@mac.com> Message-ID: <92B5D084-BE41-450E-87A7-4C51A99CF9EA@damonam.ml1.net> On 19/05/2005, at 7:30 AM, Michael McCracken wrote: > I have found that there are at least a few features that nobody > really knows about, except for me - certainly some of the various > drag and drop features, and Adam's fantastic autocompletion plugin > for Cocoa text editors. We're familiar since we wrote them, but if > there are features that aren't well known, I'd be interested to > hear suggestions of how to improve that situation. I use the autocomplete feature of BibDesk in TeXShop all the time. I love it, and I'd be very lost without it. Although, I did notice that the completion seems to have changed recently - previously it only completed on the key, and now it seems to complete on any author, which still throws me a bit (when I type 'ress' I don't really expect it to be completed with 'douglas92'). However, I'm sure it's actually more useful to more people this way, so I'll get used to it eventually. Many thanks to the three BibDesk Devs! d. -- It so happens that I have mail-order degrees in muderology and murderonomy. -- Dr. Zoidberg --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jkhanson at umich.edu Wed May 18 21:00:53 2005 From: jkhanson at umich.edu (Jon Hanson) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:00:53 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TexShop/BibDesk/gwTex et al Message-ID: <3FF64B3E-9934-4579-8B77-57E93DF7AD07@umich.edu> Just wanted to send a public note of thanks to all of those who devote so much time to improving the TeX experience on OS X. Thanks to Gary and Joe for maintaining the Mac OS X TeX/LaTeX web site and this list. To the BibDesk team. BibDesk does rock, and it keeps getting better. It has allowed me to become far more organized and productive than I could have been otherwise. Thank you! Likewise for TexShop. The new PDFsearch feature is awesome. Thank you! Gerben, of course, thanks for the i-Installer and all the work in maintaining your distribution. You make it so easy for folks like me! Of course the list goes on and on . . . too many to mention. These tools are just what I use most, but I learn something every day just reading the helpful comments from people on this list. Jon Hanson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Wed May 18 21:08:14 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 18:08:14 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <92B5D084-BE41-450E-87A7-4C51A99CF9EA@damonam.ml1.net> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> <61A9AAF5-2D27-4983-A929-4392231F94C2@wright.edu> <9911850C-7061-42A4-B024-24E926A4F733@mac.com> <92B5D084-BE41-450E-87A7-4C51A99CF9EA@damonam.ml1.net> Message-ID: <92562588-1765-4AE6-8130-5B8325E50400@mac.com> On May 18, 2005, at 17:27, Damon Muller wrote: > On 19/05/2005, at 7:30 AM, Michael McCracken wrote: > > >> I have found that there are at least a few features that nobody >> really knows about, except for me - certainly some of the various >> drag and drop features, and Adam's fantastic autocompletion plugin >> for Cocoa text editors. We're familiar since we wrote them, but if >> there are features that aren't well known, I'd be interested to >> hear suggestions of how to improve that situation. >> > > I use the autocomplete feature of BibDesk in TeXShop all the time. > I love it, and I'd be very lost without it. Although, I did notice > that the completion seems to have changed recently - previously it > only completed on the key, and now it seems to complete on any > author, which still throws me a bit (when I type 'ress' I don't > really expect it to be completed with 'douglas92'). However, I'm > sure it's actually more useful to more people this way, so I'll get > used to it eventually. Glad you like it. That's interesting that you notice different results, since nothing in the selection/search process has changed recently. It actually searches based on author surnames, title, keywords, and cite key, but I'm not sure if this is documented anywhere. The plugin will also search through your document for \label{}s so you can autocomplete \ref{} commands. > > Many thanks to the three BibDesk Devs! You're welcome! -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From joseph.slater at wright.edu Wed May 18 21:11:27 2005 From: joseph.slater at wright.edu (Joseph C. Slater) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 21:11:27 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <9911850C-7061-42A4-B024-24E926A4F733@mac.com> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> <6981471.1116435038807.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> <61A9AAF5-2D27-4983-A929-4392231F94C2@wright.edu> <9911850C-7061-42A4-B024-24E926A4F733@mac.com> Message-ID: <00F5A030-23FE-42EA-B0E4-378995CA84FB@wright.edu> On May 18, 2005, at 5:30 PM, Michael McCracken wrote: > > On May 18, 2005, at 1:36 PM, Joseph C. Slater wrote: > > >> > > I have found that there are at least a few features that nobody > really knows about, except for me - certainly some of the various > drag and drop features, and Adam's fantastic autocompletion plugin > for Cocoa text editors. We're familiar since we wrote them, but if > there are features that aren't well known, I'd be interested to > hear suggestions of how to improve that situation. Add an extra hour to the day? They're in the manual, but a lot of authors have really packed a lot of capability into their codes, and it's just hard to find time to go through all of the documentation and play with all of the features. Like anything else, the presumption is that if I needed it, I would eventually look for it and find it. Joe --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From axretif at igo.com.mx Wed May 18 21:39:08 2005 From: axretif at igo.com.mx (Axel E. Retif) Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 20:39:08 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] typeset simultaneously In-Reply-To: <79f62c0ac26ac5569f1737df1e3cbc31@mac.com> References: <42764121.7010306@fys.ku.dk> <79f62c0ac26ac5569f1737df1e3cbc31@mac.com> Message-ID: <40874D1B-142D-47B4-A62F-697CCA210FD8@igo.com.mx> On May 2, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Onur Baser wrote: > I am new in mac version of tex. One of my friend told me it is > possible to typeset simultaneously. If I want to have two windows > on my screen: one is texshop the other one is pdf version output, > is it possible to change something in the texshop and see the > change in output pdf file at the same time? > > How can I do this? I know this was not possible in pc version. I don't see this been answered (for myself, it was lost amid 200+ unread e-mails). I think what you want is Claus Gerhardt's flashmode: http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/tex/ Best regards, Axel --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mgubi at mac.com Thu May 19 04:35:55 2005 From: mgubi at mac.com (Massimiliano Gubinelli) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:35:55 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXniscope In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 18 May 2005, at 19:57, Herb Schulz wrote: > On 5/18/05 12:14 PM, "Massimiliano Gubinelli" wrote: > > >> Sorry. The previous answer was wrong (just trying to do too much >> things at the same time....) >> >> Look at the console to see if some debug message is written. >> Optionally (and if you can) send me the pdf file or check if it can >> open simpler pdf files. >> >> Best, >> Massimiliano Gubinelli >> > > Howdy, > > I'm noticing the same thing. I randomly chose a .pdf documentation > file > which opens fine in Preview and tried to open it in TeXniscope and the > program just sat there. Looking in the colsole.log I see lots of > messages > > missing or invalid `MediaBox'. > missing or invalid `MediaBox'. > missing or invalid `MediaBox'. > Hi Herb, it would be faster for me to have one of such files instead of trying with all my PDF files to see if I can freeze TeXniscope. Could you send one to me privately (mgubi at mac.com) thanks, massimiliano > ... > > This is under OS X 10.4.1. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest.com) > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From thilucmic at wanadoo.fr Thu May 19 09:09:20 2005 From: thilucmic at wanadoo.fr (Thierry Masson) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:09:20 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] ogrekit find panel problem Message-ID: Hello, the OgreKit find panel doesn't work in my TeXShop. The find panel appears, but it is impossible to change the text in the find or/and replace fields (with the Apple find panel, everything is fine). I have this problem on my two computers (!!!), one with TeXShop 1.40 under 10.3.9, one with TeXShop 2.03 under 10.4.1. This looks very strange for me, so I suspect a problem behind the software. But where? Are they any corrupted files somewhere? What files are related to this panel? Thanks for your helps Thierry --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Thu May 19 09:45:49 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 08:45:49 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Just Noticed Replace Ooops. Message-ID: Howdy, Now that Ogrekit selects all the text the Find field when I hit Cmd-F (ahhh, that feels good) I just noticed that the Replace field doesn't do likewise when tabbing over to it. I think that selecting the text is normal behavior also. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From wadams at atlis.com Thu May 19 09:53:51 2005 From: wadams at atlis.com (William F. Adams) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:53:51 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Line thickness in TeXShop preview (and Preview.app) on Tiger In-Reply-To: <32ee85c80e41dcaed1295eb558e44160@atlis.com> References: <32ee85c80e41dcaed1295eb558e44160@atlis.com> Message-ID: <9edff5693fbc095fbf8bbf359bb0dc0b@atlis.com> On May 14, 2005, at 9:11 AM, William F. Adams wrote: > This is a function of how TeX draws lines. Instead of using a > PostScript ``moveto'' and ``stroke'' operator, it defines a > rectangular region and fills it. I've just learned that this has changed for pdftex and dvipdfm --- since 1999 or thereafter both have a configurable option to replace rectangles w/ lines. The standard here is for lines of 1bp or smaller to be rendered w/ stroked lines. > This means that it's subject to rounding errors as you noted, but this > can be ameliorated by anti-aliasing and other rendering settings. > > In the past, I recall such dropping out completely quite often at > lower magnifications, so it seems that Apple has set things so that > they always render, resulting in the results you see. Another thing to check for is to see if you're stacking one line on top of another --- when antialasing this can result in a darker image. Have you compared the previewing to Adobe Acrobat w/ ``Smooth line art'' enabled? William -- William Adams, publishing specialist voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708 www.atlis.com --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Thu May 19 10:21:18 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 07:21:18 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] ogrekit find panel problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <147D625E-3D6C-4E22-8FA3-60106F805AAD@mac.com> On May 19, 2005, at 06:09, Thierry Masson wrote: > Hello, > the OgreKit find panel doesn't work in my TeXShop. The find panel > appears, but it is impossible to change the text in the find or/and > replace fields (with the Apple find panel, everything is fine). > I have this problem on my two computers (!!!), one with TeXShop > 1.40 under 10.3.9, one with TeXShop 2.03 under 10.4.1. > This looks very strange for me, so I suspect a problem behind the > software. But where? Are they any corrupted files somewhere? What > files are related to this panel? Just a guess, but do you have any input managers installed? I had to disable some of my TextExtras keybindings to get Script Editor to work again on 10.4 (it wouldn't let me delete anything). -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Thu May 19 10:48:00 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 16:48:00 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Line thickness in TeXShop preview (and Preview.app) on Tiger In-Reply-To: <9edff5693fbc095fbf8bbf359bb0dc0b@atlis.com> References: <32ee85c80e41dcaed1295eb558e44160@atlis.com> <9edff5693fbc095fbf8bbf359bb0dc0b@atlis.com> Message-ID: <00B64FB9-A483-4747-874E-9AC028775F5A@mac.com> Le 19 mai 05 ? 15:53, William F. Adams a ?crit : > On May 14, 2005, at 9:11 AM, William F. Adams wrote: > >> This is a function of how TeX draws lines. Instead of using a >> PostScript ``moveto'' and ``stroke'' operator, it defines a >> rectangular region and fills it. > > I've just learned that this has changed for pdftex and dvipdfm --- > since 1999 or thereafter both have a configurable option to replace > rectangles w/ lines. The standard here is for lines of 1bp or > smaller to be rendered w/ stroked lines. Thanks, now I understand. When typesetting with pdfTeX, all lines look indeed fine (1px thickness each), and it's only when typesetting with TeX + dvips + gs that the line thickness starts to vary. (I just verified this.) Thus it may well be caused by pdfTeX vs. TeX + dvips, instead of Tiger vs. Panther. I usually typeset with either pdfTeX or XeTeX, and hadn't been using the TeX + dvips route for more than a year. That's why I'd probably forgotten. >> This means that it's subject to rounding errors as you noted, but >> this can be ameliorated by anti-aliasing and other rendering >> settings. >> >> In the past, I recall such dropping out completely quite often at >> lower magnifications, so it seems that Apple has set things so >> that they always render, resulting in the results you see. > > Another thing to check for is to see if you're stacking one line on > top of another --- when antialasing this can result in a darker image. I don't think that's the case: the lines are caused by \hline or | column specifiers in tabular or longtable environments. > Have you compared the previewing to Adobe Acrobat w/ ``Smooth line > art'' enabled? I had to switch to English language (using System Prefs > International) to understand what you meant. That's another instance of crappy software localization: in the French version of Adobe Reader, Smooth text Smooth line art Smooth images have been translated as Texte Dessin au trait Images Namely, the word "smooth" has simply been omitted, making the checkboxes meaningless. But yes, in any case "Smooth line art" is on by default. My worst experience so far on software localization is with iWork's Pages. For example, "Inset margin" in the Inspector has been translated as "Ins?rer une marge" meaning actually "Inse*r*t margin". And "Outline" (from the Format > Font menu) has been translated as "Cadre" meaning actually "Frame". Even worse, when looking in the French help for "Encadrer" (that is for a way to put a frame around a piece of text, as in a table) you are guided towards this menu item "Cadre" and get, logically enough given the translation mistake, an outline font instead of a framed text. And that's just examples, taken among many! No wonder Apple has so far got mitigated success with iWork. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From vmcgarry at austin.rr.com Thu May 19 13:08:42 2005 From: vmcgarry at austin.rr.com (Vince McGarry) Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:08:42 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 2.03 and shortcuts Message-ID: <278FBFEA-F47D-4192-BA3A-D122130BC5E6@austin.rr.com> Hi, I really like TeXShop. It, along with Gerben's distribution, has made it relatively easy to prepare quality documents. I use a desktop manager to move around and the new shortcuts are already used by the manager. Is there anyway to return to the shortcuts that were in prior distributions of TeXShop? Vince McGarry Associate Professor of Mathematics Austin Community College Rio Grande Campus vince at austincc.edu vmcgarry at austin.rr.com (512) 223-3358 --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From j.hegewald at tu-bs.de Fri May 20 03:22:57 2005 From: j.hegewald at tu-bs.de (Jan Hegewald) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 09:22:57 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Line thickness in TeXShop preview (and Preview.app) on Tiger In-Reply-To: <00B64FB9-A483-4747-874E-9AC028775F5A@mac.com> References: <32ee85c80e41dcaed1295eb558e44160@atlis.com> <9edff5693fbc095fbf8bbf359bb0dc0b@atlis.com> <00B64FB9-A483-4747-874E-9AC028775F5A@mac.com> Message-ID: <314c5e401fe055a959ff956e58cb3162@tu-bs.de> Hello, Am 19.05.2005 um 16:48 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > I had to switch to English language (using System Prefs > > International) to understand what you meant. That's another instance > of crappy software localization: in the French version of Adobe > Reader, remember: You can always disable some languages for a specific application via Finders info panel. So you can disable French for AR. For this to do one needs write permission for the application. HTH, --Jan-- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Fri May 20 08:00:05 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 14:00:05 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Line thickness in TeXShop preview (and Preview.app) on Tiger In-Reply-To: <314c5e401fe055a959ff956e58cb3162@tu-bs.de> References: <32ee85c80e41dcaed1295eb558e44160@atlis.com> <9edff5693fbc095fbf8bbf359bb0dc0b@atlis.com> <00B64FB9-A483-4747-874E-9AC028775F5A@mac.com> <314c5e401fe055a959ff956e58cb3162@tu-bs.de> Message-ID: <980F6A7B-FE65-4E4A-9F98-BE87E40F0119@mac.com> Le 20 mai 05 ? 09:22, Jan Hegewald a ?crit : >> I had to switch to English language (using System Prefs > >> International) to understand what you meant. That's another >> instance of crappy software localization: in the French version of >> Adobe Reader, > > remember: You can always disable some languages for a specific > application via Finders info panel. So you can disable French for > AR. For this to do one needs write permission for the application. That's what I had tried first, having done it for other applications on several occasions already. But for Adobe Reader that doesn't seem feasible: in the Info window for the application, the French language is checked but dimmed, so that the setting cannot be changed. I'm surprised when you mention a permission problem, because there does not seem to be restrictions at this level: /Applications/Adobe Reader 7.0 brunovoisin$ ls -l total 128 drwxrwxr-x 3 brunovoi admin 102 May 9 10:29 Adobe Reader 7.0.app -rwxrwxr-x 1 brunovoi admin 0 May 9 10:29 Icon? -rwxrwxr-x 1 brunovoi admin 8068 Dec 7 17:31 Ouvrez-moi.html Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk Fri May 20 10:14:50 2005 From: Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk (Ralph Martin) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:14:50 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] makeindex sorts badly with accents Message-ID: <6E80E1CF-29E4-4891-84CB-D6EBD735DA23@cs.cf.ac.uk> This is probably common to all versions of tetex, but has anyone else noticed that makeindex does not do a very good job of making the index when the entries contain accents: I tried to make an author index , and got the following issues \v{S}\'{\i}r came before entries starting with A, B, C etc: \v{S}\'{\i}r and M\"uller came before Martin The former definitely looks wrong, and while I am unsure what sorting order a real German dictionary uses, intuitively to me at least, the latter also seems wrong. Comments? Fixes? Best wishes Ralph -- Prof Ralph Martin Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536 School of Computer Science Fax: +44(0)29 2087 4598 Cardiff University Email: mailto:ralph at cs.cf.ac.uk 5 The Parade, Roath WWW: http://ralph.cs.cf.ac.uk/ Cardiff, CF24 3AA, United Kingdom VOIP: sip:rrmwork at iptel.org --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Fri May 20 10:28:51 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:28:51 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] makeindex sorts badly with accents In-Reply-To: <6E80E1CF-29E4-4891-84CB-D6EBD735DA23@cs.cf.ac.uk> References: <6E80E1CF-29E4-4891-84CB-D6EBD735DA23@cs.cf.ac.uk> Message-ID: On 20 May 2005, at 16:14, Ralph Martin wrote: > This is probably common to all versions of tetex, but has anyone > else noticed that makeindex does not do a very good job of making > the index when the entries contain accents: > > I tried to make an author index , and got the following issues > > \v{S}\'{\i}r came before entries starting with A, B, C etc: \v{S} > \'{\i}r > > and > > M\"uller came before Martin > > The former definitely looks wrong, and while I am unsure what > sorting order a real German dictionary uses, intuitively to me at > least, the latter also seems wrong. > You may have some luck with directly using 8-bit characters, but the makeindex appendix in Lamport explicitly lists \"u as a case to be treated separately: \index{fur at f\"{u}r}, or in your case: \index {Muller at M\"{u}ller}, and sililar for \v{S}\'{\i}r. (Makeindex will sort on the part before the @, while the second part is put into the index). HTMH Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk Fri May 20 10:33:15 2005 From: Ralph.Martin at cs.cardiff.ac.uk (Ralph Martin) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:33:15 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] makeindex sorts badly with accents In-Reply-To: References: <6E80E1CF-29E4-4891-84CB-D6EBD735DA23@cs.cf.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8B0F926D-E988-4E7C-9A6F-BA52CE5D4EB5@cs.cf.ac.uk> On 20 May 2005, at 3:28 pm, Maarten Sneep wrote: > You may have some luck with directly using 8-bit characters, but > the makeindex appendix in Lamport explicitly lists \"u as a case to > be treated separately: \index{fur at f\"{u}r}, or in your case: \index > {Muller at M\"{u}ller}, and sililar for \v{S}\'{\i}r. > > (Makeindex will sort on the part before the @, while the second > part is put into the index). Thanks for point out this rtfm. Best wishes Ralph -- Prof Ralph Martin Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536 School of Computer Science Fax: +44(0)29 2087 4598 Cardiff University Email: mailto:ralph at cs.cf.ac.uk 5 The Parade, Roath WWW: http://ralph.cs.cf.ac.uk/ Cardiff, CF24 3AA, United Kingdom VOIP: sip:rrmwork at iptel.org --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Fri May 20 10:30:21 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:30:21 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] table help Message-ID: jut trying to get the hang of a basic table, have spent an hour with Mittelbach and Goossens to no avail. If someone has a fairly simple table example with borders drawn in (no maths required) that I can study, I'd be most grateful... it's just a couple of tables with text, two columns and several rows that I need to produce but I'm not savvy enough to make sense of the manuals and even copying out examples seems to throw up errors...:-) TIA --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macmechanic at fastmail.fm Fri May 20 10:31:29 2005 From: macmechanic at fastmail.fm (Rene Borgella) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 10:31:29 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeX i-Package and TeX4ht Message-ID: Hi all: Just an update and a thank you to all who helped fix this or sent suggestions in. I had a problem with converting TeX documents to html using TeX4ht where some text was dropped and ligatures were garbled. With Eitan's help, I was able to eliminate all of the glitches I was having from converting TeX documents to html resolved by adjusting the i-records in /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex4ht/ht-fonts . . . . and then doing a few other things he suggested that I don't recall right now. One issue remained, however: the ''ff'' and other ligatures _would_ render correctly in FireFox and Mozilla but not in Safari (running 10.3.9). In Safari these ligatures would appear in a different font than the rest of the text. Because I could not fix this I simply ignored it figuring that the problem was in Safari's rendering. I re-installed TeX using the latest updates to TeX (2005 version) and can happily report that the problem is now 110% resolved -- the ligatures appear correctly in FireFox, Mozilla, and Safari in all the documents I've tested so far. Thanks again to everyone for their help and suggestions and especially to Eitan and Gerben for doing their magic! Ren? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Fri May 20 10:46:31 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:46:31 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] table help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >jut trying to get the hang of a basic table, have spent an hour with >Mittelbach and Goossens to no avail. If someone has a fairly simple >table example with borders drawn in (no maths required) that I can >study, I'd be most grateful... 's ok, I finally worked it out...(why do I always work these out just as the request for help reaches the list?:-) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Fri May 20 10:48:07 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:48:07 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] table help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 20 May 2005, at 16:30, Jason Davies wrote: > jut trying to get the hang of a basic table, have spent an hour with > Mittelbach and Goossens to no avail. If someone has a fairly simple > table example with borders drawn in (no maths required) that I can > study, I'd be most grateful... > > it's just a couple of tables with text, two columns and several rows > that I need to produce but I'm not savvy enough to make sense of the > manuals and even copying out examples seems to throw up errors...:-) Here's a commented sample. \begin{table} %% this is actually a floating environment, similar to \begin{figure} \caption[short title]{The full title} %% The full title. The short one will appear in a list of tables %% the real table starts here \begin{tabular}% start the table {ll}% indicate that there are two left aligned columns* first row, first column & first row, second column \\ second row, first column & by now you should get the idea \end{tabular} %% end sample. * this can be the tricky bit. Vertical lines can be indicated here with | between the columns. l, r and c are for left, right and centred columns. Other options exist, but beyond my intended scope of this mail. I think the not so short intro has a nice introduction. Lamport has the best intro, and is very easy to follow along. I'm not a great supporter of lines in tables, but you can experiment with \hline command at the end or the beginning of a row. HTMH, Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Fri May 20 11:40:19 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:40:19 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] mad TextLightning/TexShop behaviour Message-ID: every time I close TexShop, Textlightning starts converting my output pdf, often again and again until I force-quit TeXshop. I can't see whyit is doing this - any ideas?:-) TIA --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Fri May 20 11:40:26 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:40:26 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] table help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Here's a commented sample. thanks. I ended up using tabular instead of table. I can't see what the differenc is in my manuals..anyone care to post a pithy distinction to help me make sense of the manuals?:-) thanks. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Fri May 20 11:46:30 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:46:30 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] table help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >Here's a commented sample. actually now I think of it, one thing I would like is to vary the columns thus Big Topic A&Big Topic B (two columns, with vertical line between) Sub-topic of A1, sub-topic of A2, sub-topic of B1, sub-topic of B2 (three vertical lines for 4 columns, and henceforth like that.) should I just put two together with no gaps? anyway, experimenting now...will no doubt solve it just as a reply comes in..:-) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Fri May 20 11:50:07 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 17:50:07 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] table help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 20 May 2005, at 17:40, Jason Davies wrote: > thanks. I ended up using tabular instead of table. I can't see what > the > difference is in my manuals..anyone care to post a pithy > distinction to > help me make sense of the manuals?:-) table is a floating environment, intended to hold a table. It will number the caption for you, and make sure the table fits nicely on a page. tabular is the table itself, and usually resides within a table environment. It can be used outside the table environment though. \begin{table} \caption{} \begin{tabular}{...} . . . \end{tabular} \end{table} Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Fri May 20 11:54:18 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 17:54:18 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] table help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 20 May 2005, at 17:46, Jason Davies wrote: > Big Topic A&Big Topic B (two columns, with vertical line between) > Sub-topic of A1, sub-topic of A2, sub-topic of B1, sub-topic of B2 > (three vertical lines for 4 columns, and henceforth like that.) > > should I just put two together with no gaps? \begin{tabular}{l|l|l|l} \multicolumn{2}{l}{Big topic A} & \multicolumn{2}{l}{Big topic B}\\ Sub-topic of A1 & sub-topic of A2 & sub-topic of B1 & sub-topic of B2\ \ \hline ... & ... & ... & ...\\ . . . \end{tabular} However, vertical lines in tables are usually frowned upon by designers. Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no Fri May 20 12:00:07 2005 From: Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no (Jonas Wellendorf) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:00:07 +0000 Subject: Bibtex sorts badly Was: Re: [OS X TeX] makeindex sorts badly with accents In-Reply-To: <8B0F926D-E988-4E7C-9A6F-BA52CE5D4EB5@cs.cf.ac.uk> References: <6E80E1CF-29E4-4891-84CB-D6EBD735DA23@cs.cf.ac.uk> <8B0F926D-E988-4E7C-9A6F-BA52CE5D4EB5@cs.cf.ac.uk> Message-ID: <7c4d059e58c454b88abe63313441011c@cms.uib.no> Is there a similar way of changing the automatic sort order of individual entries in a bibtex generated bibliograhy? Thank you, Jonas P? 20. mai. 2005 kl. 14.33 skrev Ralph Martin: > > On 20 May 2005, at 3:28 pm, Maarten Sneep wrote: >> You may have some luck with directly using 8-bit characters, but the >> makeindex appendix in Lamport explicitly lists \"u as a case to be >> treated separately: \index{fur at f\"{u}r}, or in your case: >> \index{Muller at M\"{u}ller}, and sililar for \v{S}\'{\i}r. >> >> (Makeindex will sort on the part before the @, while the second part >> is put into the index). > > Thanks for point out this rtfm. > > Best wishes > > Ralph > -- > Prof Ralph Martin Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536 > School of Computer Science Fax: +44(0)29 2087 4598 > Cardiff University Email: mailto:ralph at cs.cf.ac.uk > 5 The Parade, Roath WWW: http://ralph.cs.cf.ac.uk/ > Cardiff, CF24 3AA, United Kingdom VOIP: sip:rrmwork at iptel.org > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > > -- Jonas Wellendorf Doctoral fellow Centre for Medieval Studies University of Bergen, Norway E-mail: Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no Phone: (+47) 55 58 80 93 --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Schremmer.Alain at verizon.net Fri May 20 12:45:42 2005 From: Schremmer.Alain at verizon.net (Alain Schremmer) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 12:45:42 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] table help In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <428E1436.7020303@verizon.net> Jason Davies wrote: >>Here's a commented sample. >> >> > > >actually now I think of it, one thing I would like is to vary the >columns thus > >Big Topic A&Big Topic B (two columns, with vertical line between) >Sub-topic of A1, sub-topic of A2, sub-topic of B1, sub-topic of B2 >(three vertical lines for 4 columns, and henceforth like that.) > >should I just put two together with no gaps? > >anyway, experimenting now...will no doubt solve it just as a reply comes >in..:-) > > Here is an example in a format I find easier to handle. \begin{center} \begin{tabular}{lccc} \toprule %Row0 $\spadesuit$ Over the \emph{counter}, we \emph{look} at: & \hspace{3mm} & \multicolumn{2}{l}{\ding{118} On the \emph{board}, we \emph{write}:} %& \multicolumn{2}{l}{\ding{118} On the \emph{board}, we \emph{write}:} \\ \midrule %Row0 ? & ? & \hspace{10mm}$\denom{Jack}$ & $\denom{Jill}$ \\ \cline{3-4} %Row1 \NUMBER{five} \object{dollars \;\;from-Jack-to-Jill} & ? & \multicolumn{2}{c}{$+5\;\denom{Washingtons}$} %& \multicolumn{2}{c}{$+5\;\denom{Washingtons}$} \\ %Row2 \NUMBER{three} \object{dollars \;\;from-Jill-to-Jack} & ? & \multicolumn{2}{c}{$-3\;\denom{Washingtons}$} %& \multicolumn{2}{c}{$-3\;\denom{Washingtons}$} \\ \bottomrule \end{tabular} \end{center} I start with a modification of Will Robertson's macro that gives me this: (The boxes stand for Apple's apple, option shift K which I like because it is very visible in the source and invisible in /my/ pdf?but not in everbody's!! \begin{center} \begin{tabular}{lccc} \toprule %Row0 ? & ? & ? & ? \\ \midrule %Row0 ? & ? & ? & ? \\ %Row1 ? & ? & ? & ? \\ %Row2 ? & ? & ? & ? \\ \bottomrule \end{tabular} \end{center} Then, I tinker with it. The repeated lines commented out help me keep track of the count when I enter the "multicolumns". Let me know if you want other examples. Regards --schremmer --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Fri May 20 13:23:37 2005 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 19:23:37 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] makeindex sorts badly with accents In-Reply-To: <6E80E1CF-29E4-4891-84CB-D6EBD735DA23@cs.cf.ac.uk> References: <6E80E1CF-29E4-4891-84CB-D6EBD735DA23@cs.cf.ac.uk> Message-ID: There are two ways to overcome this problem: 1) Use babel with german + other languages and write the Umlaut as "u instead of \"u etc, only for those words that go to the index, and then call in the backmatter \selectlanguage{german} \printindex You need a style file when calling makeindex, e.g., my german.ist, which is avalible from my tex page together with instructions. 2) Tell makeindex how want this word to be sorted, e.g., \index{sigma-algebra@$\s$-algebra} Claus On May 20, 2005, at 16:14, Ralph Martin wrote: > This is probably common to all versions of tetex, but has anyone > else noticed that makeindex does not do a very good job of making > the index when the entries contain accents: > > I tried to make an author index , and got the following issues > > \v{S}\'{\i}r came before entries starting with A, B, C etc: \v{S} > \'{\i}r > > and > > M\"uller came before Martin > > The former definitely looks wrong, and while I am unsure what > sorting order a real German dictionary uses, intuitively to me at > least, the latter also seems wrong. > > Comments? Fixes? > > > Best wishes > > Ralph > -- > Prof Ralph Martin Phone: +44(0)29 2087 5536 > School of Computer Science Fax: +44(0)29 2087 4598 > Cardiff University Email: mailto:ralph at cs.cf.ac.uk > 5 The Parade, Roath WWW: http://ralph.cs.cf.ac.uk/ > Cardiff, CF24 3AA, United Kingdom VOIP: sip:rrmwork at iptel.org > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Fri May 20 13:26:55 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:26:55 -0400 Subject: Bibtex sorts badly Was: Re: [OS X TeX] makeindex sorts badly with accents In-Reply-To: <7c4d059e58c454b88abe63313441011c@cms.uib.no> References: <6E80E1CF-29E4-4891-84CB-D6EBD735DA23@cs.cf.ac.uk> <8B0F926D-E988-4E7C-9A6F-BA52CE5D4EB5@cs.cf.ac.uk> <7c4d059e58c454b88abe63313441011c@cms.uib.no> Message-ID: On May 20, 2005, at 12:00 PM, Jonas Wellendorf wrote: > Is there a similar way of changing the automatic sort order of > individual entries in a bibtex generated bibliograhy? Not quite sure what you mean, but I use a different bibliography style to not have my reference sorted e.g. \bibliographystyle{unsrt}. I suspect that a useful bibliography style (for you) already exists. Check out http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/biblio/bibtex/contrib/ for plenty of different bibliography styles. Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From j.hegewald at tu-bs.de Fri May 20 13:22:21 2005 From: j.hegewald at tu-bs.de (Jan Hegewald) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 19:22:21 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Line thickness in TeXShop preview (and Preview.app) on Tiger In-Reply-To: <980F6A7B-FE65-4E4A-9F98-BE87E40F0119@mac.com> References: <32ee85c80e41dcaed1295eb558e44160@atlis.com> <9edff5693fbc095fbf8bbf359bb0dc0b@atlis.com> <00B64FB9-A483-4747-874E-9AC028775F5A@mac.com> <314c5e401fe055a959ff956e58cb3162@tu-bs.de> <980F6A7B-FE65-4E4A-9F98-BE87E40F0119@mac.com> Message-ID: Am 20.05.2005 um 14:00 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > I'm surprised when you mention a permission problem, because there > does not seem to be restrictions at this level: When disabling languages via Finder info, the folder French.lproj inside the .app bundle is moved: /Applications/Adobe Reader 7.0/Adobe Reader 7.0.app/Contents/Resources/French.lproj becomes /Applications/Adobe Reader 7.0/Adobe Reader 7.0.app/Contents/Resources Disabled/French.lproj so you need write permissions to these paths. But there is another way: open Adobe Reader 7.0.app via Finder context menu, open Contents, move French.lproj from Resources to Resources Disabled (maybe you need to create this folder first). The Finder allows you to identify as admin. Or you go the Terminal way with sudo mkdir and sudo mv. HTH, --Jan-- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no Fri May 20 14:56:17 2005 From: Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no (Jonas Wellendorf) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 18:56:17 +0000 Subject: Bibtex sorts badly Was: Re: [OS X TeX] makeindex sorts badly with accents In-Reply-To: References: <6E80E1CF-29E4-4891-84CB-D6EBD735DA23@cs.cf.ac.uk> <8B0F926D-E988-4E7C-9A6F-BA52CE5D4EB5@cs.cf.ac.uk> <7c4d059e58c454b88abe63313441011c@cms.uib.no> Message-ID: <574f6a4afadf8f2d998fad7709944c8b@cms.uib.no> P? 20. mai. 2005 kl. 17.26 skrev Aaron Jackson: > On May 20, 2005, at 12:00 PM, Jonas Wellendorf wrote: > >> Is there a similar way of changing the automatic sort order of >> individual entries in a bibtex generated bibliograhy? > > Not quite sure what you mean, but I use a different bibliography style > to not have my reference sorted e.g. \bibliographystyle{unsrt}. I > suspect that a useful bibliography style (for you) already exists. > Check out http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/biblio/bibtex/contrib/ for > plenty of different bibliography styles. > > Unfortunately the problem is more complicated. I use the UTF-8 encoding and a very helpfull person on usenet modified a csf-file for bibtex8 that enabled me to sort unicode characters to my liking. But it was impossible to sort Aa as ? (as is customary in Danish). Then I thought there might be a way to specify this in my bibtex entry. A way comparable to the syntax used with makeindex (as in \index{?sen at Aasen}). Jonas --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macmechanic at fastmail.fm Fri May 20 15:48:43 2005 From: macmechanic at fastmail.fm (Rene Borgella) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 15:48:43 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Languages disabling In-Reply-To: References: <32ee85c80e41dcaed1295eb558e44160@atlis.com> <9edff5693fbc095fbf8bbf359bb0dc0b@atlis.com> <00B64FB9-A483-4747-874E-9AC028775F5A@mac.com> <314c5e401fe055a959ff956e58cb3162@tu-bs.de> <980F6A7B-FE65-4E4A-9F98-BE87E40F0119@mac.com> Message-ID: At 7:22 PM +0200 5/20/05, Jan Hegewald wrote: >Am 20.05.2005 um 14:00 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > >>I'm surprised when you mention a permission >>problem, because there does not seem to be >>restrictions at this level: I've never seen permissions problems restricting this unless the user doesn't have administration privileges. There are other ways, BTW, to remove languages. 1) Control-click or right-click on a Cocoa app and you will see "Show Package Contents". If you click on this you will see a directory "Contents" Inside "Contents" you will see various directories named "Language.lproj" You may remove any and all of these directories for languages you do not use. If you do this via the Finder (or Get Info), instead of removing the directories they are placed in a directory called "Resources Disabled". Note that in Get Info, if you uncheck the box they go into this directory. If you select the language and press the "Remove" button, then the language directory is trashed. 2) Another way is to use and utility like Monoligual (there are others) that remove these for you. 3) From terminal, you can type in some version of this: sudo find / -name Icelandic.lproj -name Swedish.lproj -name Korean.lproj -name Portuguese.lproj -name Chinese.lproj -name Japanese.lproj -name German.lproj -name Dutch.lproj -name Italian.lproj -name French.lproj -name Spanish.lproj -name Turkish.lproj -exec rm -r {} \; adding/removing languages as needed. HTH ren? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Fri May 20 15:53:36 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 20:53:36 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] table help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >However, vertical lines in tables are usually frowned upon by >designers. well, I'm doing a presentation..! they help to keep things clear. many thanks for the efficient and speedy responses...as ever... --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Fri May 20 16:39:15 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam Maxwell) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:39:15 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] updated Spotlight DVI importer Message-ID: <8451825.1116621555254.JavaMail.amaxwell@mac.com> Hi all, I've updated the DVIImporter.mdimporter that was announced here a few weeks ago. Thanks to Bruno for helping debug a buffer overflow in dvi2tty that caused a hang when it encountered a path name longer than 100 characters. We also discovered that dvi2tty uses ISO Latin 1 encoding for its output, so files that formerly showed as empty should be imported now. The updated version is available at on a disk image. -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Fri May 20 16:48:33 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 22:48:33 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Languages disabling In-Reply-To: References: <32ee85c80e41dcaed1295eb558e44160@atlis.com> <9edff5693fbc095fbf8bbf359bb0dc0b@atlis.com> <00B64FB9-A483-4747-874E-9AC028775F5A@mac.com> <314c5e401fe055a959ff956e58cb3162@tu-bs.de> <980F6A7B-FE65-4E4A-9F98-BE87E40F0119@mac.com> Message-ID: <4703fbd7731fbb0c10e654d28aa88b54@Web.DE> Am 20.05.2005 um 21:48 schrieb Rene Borgella: > I've never seen permissions problems restricting this unless the user > doesn't have administration privileges. > I had them too with different applications and Mac OS X versions ... Right now I have it with Acrobat 5.1 that is owned by group wheel -- a remainder from a previous Mac OS X. And there is DeLocalizer too. -- Greetings Pete "A mathematician is a machine that turns coffee into theorems." --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jan at linguist.umass.edu Fri May 20 16:57:30 2005 From: jan at linguist.umass.edu (Jan Anderssen) Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 16:57:30 -0400 Subject: Bibtex sorts badly Was: Re: [OS X TeX] makeindex sorts badly with accents In-Reply-To: <574f6a4afadf8f2d998fad7709944c8b@cms.uib.no> References: <6E80E1CF-29E4-4891-84CB-D6EBD735DA23@cs.cf.ac.uk> <8B0F926D-E988-4E7C-9A6F-BA52CE5D4EB5@cs.cf.ac.uk> <7c4d059e58c454b88abe63313441011c@cms.uib.no> <574f6a4afadf8f2d998fad7709944c8b@cms.uib.no> Message-ID: <6F34999F-E1FD-4673-A886-1E6B13430CCF@linguist.umass.edu> > Unfortunately the problem is more complicated. > I use the UTF-8 encoding and a very helpfull person on usenet > modified a csf-file for bibtex8 that enabled me to sort unicode > characters to my liking. But it was impossible to sort Aa as ? (as > is customary in Danish). Then I thought there might be a way to > specify this in my bibtex entry. A way comparable to the syntax > used with makeindex (as in \index{?sen at Aasen}). Jonas, Kai von Fintel has some remarks on sorting Names containing "von" in the right place, while still treating "von" as part of the last name. Something like this might work for you? --- (from http://web.mit.edu/fintel/von.html) As described in the Latex Companion (p. 404), you can force Bibtex to sort on the name without the ?von?. The trick consists of two parts: At the beginning of the .bib-file, write: @preamble{"\newcommand{\SortNoop}[1]{}"} For each author with a ?von? etc. in the name change their name to the following: author = "{\SortNoop{Fintel}}von Fintel, Kai" What goes on here is that for Latex (which reads the .bbl-file generated by Bibtex), the \SortNoop command is defined to be vacuous, so the extra material is thrown away. But Bibtex sees the material and sorts on it. --- Maybe for you author = "{\SortNoop{?sen}}Aasen" would work. HTH, jan --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From peter.pagin at philosophy.su.se Sat May 21 08:58:42 2005 From: peter.pagin at philosophy.su.se (Peter Pagin) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 14:58:42 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? In-Reply-To: <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> References: <722A324F-7DAF-426A-96EE-581AE7E7B507@yale.edu> <7590619E-A257-4DC1-8124-93B7502AFD40@mac.com> <5b1383cb6d000c5646a789585843104d@mac.com> Message-ID: <428F3082.2030604@philosophy.su.se> I guess by 'cross reference' you mean a function that puts the entire bibliographical entry of the cross referenced item into the entry where the the reference is made. If it is enough with am not sure how relevant this is, but I do achieve a cross reference effect by simply putting a cite command into some other relevant BibDesk field. To make it work this must be combined with \nocite command in the main file so to generate the cross referenced item in the bibliography. After that only an extra run is needed. If you need the full entry, you can also use the bibentry package, and put a \bibentry command where a cross reference is needed. But maybe this is irrelevant to what you are asking for. Peter Curtis Clifton wrote: > On May 18, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: > >>> (or what it should do, for that matter.). >> >> >> We are confused about that as well :). I'm curious as to what >> advantage (real or perceived) crossrefs have over filling out all >> fields of an entry. > > > Imagine that you need to put 6 different papers from a conference > proceedings in your bib file. With cross references you can create a > single entry carrying all the general information for the proceedings > (conference name, location, month, year, publisher, series, volume, > number, editor, ...). Then the entries for each paper only need the > paper title, authors, page numbers, and the cross-reference. This can > be a significant savings in data entry. This was especially true > before BibDesk came along with its automatic completion of entries. > Another advantage is that a data entry mistake in something like the > name of the conference only needs to be corrected in one place, > instead of 6. > > It seems to me that if an entry has a cross reference, then the data > in the referenced entry should appear in the editing window for the > referencing entry but shouldn't be editable there. Perhaps a small > arrow icon could appear next to the non-editable field. Clicking this > icon would open the referenced entry for editing. Maybe dragging one > entry onto the edit window for another could be used to establish a > cross reference. Searches should show the entries that would match if > the cross-referenced data were in-lined. > > I don't know the precise semantics of cross references. For example, > what happens if an entry contains a booktitle, but also has a cross > reference to a book entry? Does BibTeX use the booktitle from the > original entry, or does it use the title from the cross-referenced entry? > > Per Matthias's comment about sort order: Since cross-references make > the dependencies explicit, it would be feasible to automatically sort > so that referenced items appear after referencing items (assuming no > cycles in the referencing graph). > > Curt > > ---------------------------------- > Curtis Clifton, PhD Candidate > Dept. of Computer Science, Iowa State University > http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~cclifton > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gkreme at gmail.com Sat May 21 10:25:15 2005 From: gkreme at gmail.com (Google Kreme) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 08:25:15 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html Message-ID: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> I am trying to convert a LaTeX file into html, and though I could use the texi2html command from the terminal. However: % texi2html myfile.tex ** empty document % texi2html -l2h myfile.tex ** empty document % --help and man texi2html are not much help I do not appear to have a 'latex2html' executable and I don't see anything in the i-installer that mentions latex2html. -- Naked blonde walks into a bar with a poodle under one arm, and a two- foot salami under the other. The bartender says, I guess you won't be needing a drink. Naked lady says? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 21 10:53:25 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 16:53:25 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <44f99251083a62c9c080eb61428b0789@Web.DE> Am 21.05.2005 um 16:25 schrieb Google Kreme: > I am trying to convert a LaTeX file into html, and though I could use > the texi2html command from the terminal texi2html does not use TeX or LaTeX files as input but texinfo files, which are quite different. Here is a little excerpt: \input texinfo @c -*-texinfo-*- @c %**start of header @setfilename reftex @settitle RefTeX User Manual @dircategory Emacs @direntry * RefTeX: (reftex). Emacs support for LaTeX cross-references and citations. @end direntry @synindex ky cp @syncodeindex vr cp @syncodeindex fn cp Recently there where threads about tex4ht, which converts (La)TeX to HTML and comes in an i-Package. Besides latex2html there too is hevea: http://pauillac.inria.fr/~maranget/hevea/ -- Greetings Pete The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is the day they start selling vacuum cleaners. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Sat May 21 12:38:22 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 09:38:22 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] [ANN] BibDesk 1.0RC2 Message-ID: <5C361416-A545-4CAD-9465-8E10E1F579B5@mac.com> The BibDesk development team is pleased to announce that BibDesk 1.0RC2 is available for download at . This is our second release candidate for version 1, and fixes a few important bugs that cropped up in RC1. Please file a bug report at if you encounter problems with this release, and thanks to those of you who submitted annotated crash reports. Changes since 1.0RC1 Bugfixes ? "About the Scripts Menu" AppleScript now works on Panther and Tiger (why was that so hard?) ? Setting the 'local file' through AppleScript no longer crashes BibDesk ? Saving in response to closing/quitting with unsaved changes will no longer cause a crash ? Open editors now observe changes to macro definitions, so you don't mysteriously lose changes ? AutoFile should no longer create a '~' file at the root directory (bug ##1205352) ? Minor changes for localizability ? Application name is now BibDesk everywhere--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From agoralczyk at gmail.com Sat May 21 13:18:53 2005 From: agoralczyk at gmail.com (Armin Goralczyk) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 19:18:53 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXniscope In-Reply-To: References: <23B12EB2-79C9-4D0F-B026-33AAC52C30D3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <303906AD-E625-4C01-807C-65ECB88CB867@gmail.com> Am 18.05.2005 um 19:14 schrieb Massimiliano Gubinelli: > Sorry. The previous answer was wrong (just trying to do too much > things at the same time....) > > Look at the console to see if some debug message is written. > Optionally (and if you can) send me the pdf file or check if it can > open simpler pdf files. > > Best, > Massimiliano Gubinelli > > > On 17 May 2005, at 11:22, Armin Goralczyk wrote: Hi I tried other files and everything worked fine. It seems to be just one file (the first I opened!) that does not work with TeXniscope although it can be opened by Acrobat Reader (I sent it already to Massimiliano Gubinelli). Thanks for the help. -- Armin Goralczyk, Guttmannstr. 4, Appartment 2615, 76307 Karlsbad, Germany --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macmechanic at fastmail.fm Sat May 21 15:06:49 2005 From: macmechanic at fastmail.fm (Rene Borgella) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 15:06:49 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> Message-ID: At 8:25 AM -0600 5/21/05, Google Kreme wrote: >I am trying to convert a LaTeX file into html, and though I could >use the texi2html command from the terminal. However: > Did you try "htlatex" ? From terminal, you got to the directory with your Tex file, and type: ''htlatex file_name.tex'' You'll get the html file(s) made in the same directory. I believe that the directory name (and the file name too, perhaps) can't have spaces. good luck, Rene --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bkerstetter at mac.com Sat May 21 16:32:33 2005 From: bkerstetter at mac.com (Bob Kerstetter) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 15:32:33 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> Message-ID: On May 21, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Google Kreme wrote: > > I am trying to convert a LaTeX file into html, and though I could > use the texi2html command from the terminal. However: > > % texi2html myfile.tex > ** empty document > % texi2html -l2h myfile.tex > ** empty document > % try: htlatex yourlatexdoc "html" this runs tex4ht, which is part of the i-installer TeX package. Add the info option: htlatex yourtexdoc "html,info" to put about 60K worth of options and execution info--sort of like a user manual--into the yourlatexdoc.log file. TeX4ht is very configurable and flexible. I don't use the defaults because of my employer's specialized requirements, but the defaults do a very good job of producing html from LaTeX source. TeX4ht also works with TeX and ConTeXt. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From stephen.anderson at yale.edu Sat May 21 20:28:03 2005 From: stephen.anderson at yale.edu (Stephen Anderson) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 10:28:03 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Crossrefs in BibDesk? Message-ID: <09C1C7F2-02D7-4D91-9430-42117F207281@yale.edu> As the one who initiated this discussion, I should have taken a more active part in it, but since I read this list as a digest, I tend to be a bit behind the curve. To repeat, I for one would certainly use the crossref feature if it were available. My bibliography file typically has many, many entries that use it, since a single edited collection or proceedings volume will show up as the source of several referenced articles. Crossrefs not only make it easier to enter this data, but also to correct mistakes just once for the whole volume. Related to this is the fact that I often know about a volume and its contents, and want to refer to the articles in it, well before it actually appears and publication data are available. With crossrefs, I can put the papers in the bibliography, stub in the book details, and fledge them out when the work actually appears. I do appreciate the macro capacity in BibDesk, and I make use of that too. As others have noted, it "just works" as far as I can tell, so I never mentioned it explicitly -- though of course, I haven't tested it very much, since the bibliographies I mostly use aren't much good in BibDesk without crossrefs. As far as the way an implementation ought to work: an entry A with a crossref to another entry B should show up (and be sorted) as if any field for which A does not have content had the content entry B assigns to it. Circularity is prevented by definition, though perhaps it needs to be flagged if it occurs in an ill-formed .bib file. The indirectly addressed fields shouldn't be directly editable (under entry A), but should have an icon or something indicating their status. That implements the semantics of bibtex crossrefs, and anything more (like dragging entries onto each other to create crossrefs) is candy. I hope I will be excused (and not considered too much of an ingrate) if I say that a GUI interface to bibtex databases that doesn't implement this property of the language is lacking in a more fundamental way than simple failure to provide some convenience feature. Thanks very much to the developers of BibDesk for their work, which I hope very much to be able to take advantage of. -- Steve Anderson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macmechanic at fastmail.fm Sat May 21 20:38:59 2005 From: macmechanic at fastmail.fm (Rene Borgella) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 20:38:59 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> Message-ID: Greetings: >At 3:32 PM -0500 5/21/05, Bob Kerstetter wrote: >try: > >htlatex yourlatexdoc "html" I didn't know about adding the "html" after htlatex latexdoc I tired it and saw the html output had slightly different (better) formatting. Could you please tell me a bit more about what it does? > >Add the info option: > >htlatex yourtexdoc "html,info" > >to put about 60K worth of options and execution >info--sort of like a user manual--into the >yourlatexdoc.log file. Also, I didn't know about the info option. >TeX4ht is very configurable and flexible. What other kind of things like this exist? TIA, ren? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Sun May 22 03:33:57 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 09:33:57 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: [tex-live] texconfig behaviour (repost with subject line) (Modified In-Reply-To: <855269ea00878665d7d6ceaff4077d82@ie.technion.ac.il> References: <855269ea00878665d7d6ceaff4077d82@ie.technion.ac.il> Message-ID: <239573703ecccae0a94701aecfd92088@rna.nl> Hi Ury, 1. You posted to the wrong address (TeX Live) which is why I only saw this message today. Please go to http://www.rna.nl/ and find a pointer there to become a member of the Mac OS X TeX mailing list. 2. By default, TeXShop is configured to use pdfTeX which does not understand EPS. In TeXShop settings you can for backward compatibility switch to TeX+dvips G On May 19, 2005, at 12:30, Ury Passy wrote: > Dear Mr Gerben Wierda > I need your help! > For years I was using the software Textures by Blue Sky. However, with > the introduction of Mac OSX I switched to TeXShop. I downloaded your > i-Installer but I do not know which package is required for the Latex > to recognize epsfig. > I wrote the following: > \documentclass[11pt,emtex]{article} > \usepackage{epsfig} > \usepackage{changebar} > \usepackage{amsmath} > \usepackage{amssymb} > \usepackage{latexsym} > But I got: > !LaTex Error: Unknown graphics extension: .eps > l.393 \epsfig{file=5_points.eps,scale=0.5} > ? > Could you help me please? > Thanks > Ury Passy > > _______________________________________________ > TeX Live mailing list > http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/tex-live > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 22 04:33:49 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 10:33:49 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: [tex-live] texconfig behaviour (repost with subject line) (Modified In-Reply-To: <239573703ecccae0a94701aecfd92088@rna.nl> References: <855269ea00878665d7d6ceaff4077d82@ie.technion.ac.il> <239573703ecccae0a94701aecfd92088@rna.nl> Message-ID: <58EF9BDA-F379-4812-A9EB-947A42B51E7D@mac.com> Le 22 mai 05 ? 09:33, Gerben Wierda a ?crit : > 2. By default, TeXShop is configured to use pdfTeX which does not > understand EPS. In TeXShop settings you can for backward > compatibility switch to TeX+dvips > >> On May 19, 2005, at 12:30, Ury Passy wrote: >> >> For years I was using the software Textures by Blue Sky. However, >> with the introduction of Mac OSX I switched to TeXShop. I >> downloaded your i-Installer but I do not know which package is >> required for the Latex to recognize epsfig. >> I wrote the following: >> \documentclass[11pt,emtex]{article} >> \usepackage{epsfig} >> \usepackage{changebar} >> \usepackage{amsmath} >> \usepackage{amssymb} >> \usepackage{latexsym} In addition it would be better to replace the option [emtex] by [dvips], or simply omit it, since in TeX + Ghostcript mode in TeXShop (actually TeX + dvips + Ghostscript) LaTeX will detect automatically the use of dvips and then select the appropriate option. As for emtex, it's a distribution of TeX for MS-DOS. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Roberto.Avanzi at ruhr-uni-bochum.de Sun May 22 05:22:00 2005 From: Roberto.Avanzi at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Roberto Avanzi) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 11:22:00 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXshop, non european fonts and XeTeX Message-ID: Am 11.05.2005 schrieb "Peter Dyballa" >Am 11.05.2005 um 16:45 schrieb Roberto Avanzi: > > > what should I do in order to view (and edit) the international > > characters with the TeXshop editor? > > > > I think you need to install from your Mac OS X CDs or DVD those > extra-European fonts that you want to see. The Additional Fonts package > has Arabic, Hebrew, and Cyrillic plus some Indics. The Additional Asian > Fonts package has those Far Eastern CJK fonts. Next thing is that I have all of them :) -- but the problems have been solved now beste Gr??e Roberto Avanzi -- /_/ Dr. Roberto Avanzi, Junior Professor _/ Fakult?t f?r Mathematik - Ruhr University Bochum / "Choosing Windows is a case of Stockholm Syndrome" --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Roberto.Avanzi at ruhr-uni-bochum.de Sun May 22 05:22:22 2005 From: Roberto.Avanzi at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Roberto Avanzi) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 11:22:22 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXshop, non european fonts and XeTeX Message-ID: <42a049d2ae3ab16fdba5a45611eea714@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Le 11 mai 05 ? 18:10, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > Le 11 mai 05 ? 18:10, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > > >Le 11 mai 05 ? 17:52, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > > >> > TeXShop switched to a new syntax for specifying the engine and >> > encoding. Details are there > > That's all wrong, and the problem must lie elsewhere. Maybe you > > don't have the font "Geeza Pro"? Sorry for the blunder. [yes, I DO have Geeza Pro] > More blunder: that was actually correct. I had forgotten I had set > earlier, in Terminal: > > defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands YES > > and omitted afterwards to reset it back to the default: > > defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands NO > > There are some details about this in the file IMPORTANT_README, under > "Beware! Changing Encoding Requires Care". ok, two things. (I) I forgot to read the IMPORTANT_README. (II) After writing defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands NO everything worked > This also means that the XeTeX samples should be changed at some > point, to reflect TeXShop's new syntax. I guess supporting both would be incompatible, right? > Hoping I'm not making another mistake this time, apparently you did not, the last time :-) thank you very much for your help Roberto -- /_/ Dr. Roberto Avanzi, Junior Professor _/ Fakult?t f?r Mathematik - Ruhr University Bochum / "Choosing Windows is a case of Stockholm Syndrome" --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 22 06:03:18 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 12:03:18 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXshop, non european fonts and XeTeX In-Reply-To: <42a049d2ae3ab16fdba5a45611eea714@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> References: <42a049d2ae3ab16fdba5a45611eea714@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Message-ID: Le 22 mai 05 ? 11:22, Roberto Avanzi a ?crit : > (II) After writing defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands NO > everything worked Do you really mean defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands NO and not defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands YES I thought that NO was the default setting, which had the consequence of breaking backwards-comptability, and that changing the value to YES ensured this compatibility, hence making the current XeTeX examples displayed and typeset correctly by TeXShop. > > This also means that the XeTeX samples should be changed at some > > point, to reflect TeXShop's new syntax. > > I guess supporting both would be incompatible, right? Personally I think backwards-compatibility is always desirable, and that it would be better for TeXShop, while still describing the new syntax in the doc, to provide compatibility with the old syntax by setting the default value of UseOldHeadingCommands to YES. Another solution would be to provide, in the distro, an AppleScript (or any other type of script, provided it's straightforward to operate -- by double-click or drag-and-drop) to (1) convert files using the old syntax to files using the new syntax while (2) taking all necessary steps to ensure that, in the process, the encoding is properly interpreted upon opening and saving. But, again, I think something transparent for the user would be better, and hence that default recognition of the old syntax would spare some headaches to come. A second alternative solution: have TeXShop, when opening a file using the old syntax, (1) detect this syntax and interpret the file content properly, (2) display a dialog telling an old syntax has been detected, that conversion is necessary and asking for permission to do so, (3) in case the answer is yes change the required lines to the new syntax and finally (4) make sure that when the file will be saved the proper encoding will be used. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sun May 22 06:09:43 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 12:09:43 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: [tex-live] texconfig behaviour (repost with subject line) (Modified In-Reply-To: <58EF9BDA-F379-4812-A9EB-947A42B51E7D@mac.com> References: <855269ea00878665d7d6ceaff4077d82@ie.technion.ac.il> <239573703ecccae0a94701aecfd92088@rna.nl> <58EF9BDA-F379-4812-A9EB-947A42B51E7D@mac.com> Message-ID: <26f3f8dd3e6a508cd8b77398616b813c@Web.DE> Am 22.05.2005 um 10:33 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > As for emtex, it's a distribution of TeX for MS-DOS. It rather was -- I don't think that there are still pure DOS users without any Windows. emTeX was ported to MS-Windows as WinEmTeX, but this diskettes based distribution too is dead since some years. -- Greetings Pete $ sumascii BILL GATES B I L L G A T E S 66+ 73+ 76+ 76+ 71+ 65+ 84+ 69+ 83 = 663 and add 3 because he's Bill Gates the third. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bkerstetter at mac.com Sun May 22 08:07:55 2005 From: bkerstetter at mac.com (Bob Kerstetter) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 07:07:55 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <98F1ACCE-2648-4F2F-BA73-CC9586819D72@mac.com> On May 21, 2005, at 7:38 PM, Rene Borgella wrote: > > Greetings: > > > > >> At 3:32 PM -0500 5/21/05, Bob Kerstetter wrote: >> >> > > > >> try: >> >> htlatex yourlatexdoc "html" >> >> > > > I didn't know about adding the "html" after htlatex latexdoc > > I tired it and saw the html output had slightly different (better) > formatting. Could you please tell me a bit more about what it does? > > html makes tex4ht produce html 4 output with css mark up, i believe. you can actually specify the level of html like this: htlatex yourlatexdoc "html,3.2" or htlatex yourlatexdoc "html,4" > > >> >> Add the info option: >> >> htlatex yourtexdoc "html,info" >> >> to put about 60K worth of options and execution info--sort of like >> a user manual--into the yourlatexdoc.log file. >> >> > > > Also, I didn't know about the info option. > Yes, Eitan has been trying to get me to read that for years now. So I have finally started doing it. :) > > > > >> TeX4ht is very configurable and flexible. >> >> > > > What other kind of things like this exist? > I don't know of anything else. TeX4ht has output options for open office, xml, xhtml, docbook and probably other things. The home page is here: http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/ The documentation is very thorough, but a bit over my head. Basically I use it with custom configuration files. Output of one file is mostly html 3.2 with no CSS. The other as some CSS. You put these config files in the local texmf and call them in place of "html" for example, a config file named simplehtml.cfg is called like this: htlatex yourlatexdoc "simplehtml,3.2" You can break up your output into separate files by adding numbers to the command line: htlatex yourlatexdoc "simplehtml,3.2,2" creates new files for each \section and \subsection, i think. htlatex yourlatexdoc "simplehtml,3.2,3" creates new files for each \section, \subsection and \subsubsection. Here is the souce for simplehtml.cfg and howto.cfg, the later uses some CSS. Both of these config files are for specialized use and probably of limited value other than being examples. I am not an expert at this. But reading along with the "info" output may be of some value. Eitan provides me with more support than he probably should, for which i am very grateful. 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}% }{}% }% } {\ifvmode \IgnorePar\fi \EndP \EndMinis} {}{} \let\contentsname=\empty \Configure{tableofcontents} {\ifvmode \IgnorePar\fi \EndP \let\EndSecToc=\empty \HCode{

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    }} \Configure{crosslinks+} {}{} {}{\Link{Contents}{}Contents\EndLink} \Configure{crosslinks}{}{}{}{}{}{}{}{} \ConfigureEnv{center} {\ifvmode \IgnorePar\fi \EndP \HCode{

    }} {\ifvmode \IgnorePar\fi \EndP \HCode{

    }\par\ShowPar} {\relax}{} \ConfigureEnv{flushright} {\ifvmode \IgnorePar\fi \EndP \HCode{

    }} {\ifvmode \IgnorePar\fi \EndP \HCode{

    }\par\ShowPar} {\relax}{} \ConfigureEnv{figure} {\ifvmode \IgnorePar\fi \EndP \HCode{

    }} {\ifvmode \IgnorePar\fi \EndP \HCode{

    }\par\ShowPar} {\relax}{} %\Configure{wrapfloat} % {\getWFplace % \bgroup % \Configure{graphics*} % {png} % {\Picture[pict]{\csname Gin at base\endcsname.png \WFplace}}% % } % {\egroup} \EndPreamble \Configure{@HEAD}{} %Definitions \let\oldSec=\section \def\section#1{% \setfilename #1 //% \oldSec{#1}% } \def\setfilename#1//{% \let\temp=\empty \setname#1//% \NextFile{\temp.html}% } \def\setname#1 #2//{% \edef\temp{\temp#1}% \if !#2!\let\next=\empty \else \def\next{\setname#2//}\fi \next } \let\oldSubsec=\subsection \def\subsection#1{% \setfilename #1 //% \oldSubsec{#1}% } \endinput END simplehtml.cfg ********** BEGIN howtos.cfg \Preamble{html,no-DOCTYPE} \Configure{HTML} {\IgnorePar\HCode{}} {\HCode{}} \Configure{HEAD} {\IgnorePar\NoFonts\HCode {}} {\HCode{}\EndNoFonts} \begin{document} \Configure{HtmlPar} {\EndP\HCode{

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    }} \Configure{@HEAD}{} \Configure{@HEAD} {\HCode{\Hnewline \Hnewline \Hnewline \Hnewline }} \Configure{BODY} {\ifvmode \IgnorePar\fi \HCode{}\ShowPar} {\ifvmode \IgnorePar\fi \EndP \HCode{}} \Configure{maketitle} {\Tag{TITLE+}{\@title}} {} {\HCode{

    }} {\HCode{

    }} \Configure{thanks author date and} {}{} {\HCode{

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    }\egroup } {}{} \ConfigureEnv{quotation} {\ifvmode \IgnorePar\fi \HCode{
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    }\egroup } {}{} %\Configure{IMG}{} \HAssign\Vcount = 0 \HAssign\Hcount = 0 \ConfigureEnv{minipage} {\ifvmode \HAdvance \Vcount by 1 \HAssign\Hcount = 1 \else \HAdvance \Hcount by 1 \fi \HAssign\miniBefore=\Hcount \HAdvance\miniBefore by -1 \HAssign\miniAfter=\Hcount \HAdvance\miniAfter by 1 \let\EndMinis\empty \Tag{minipage-\Vcount-\Hcount}{}% \ifvmode \IgnorePar\fi \EndP \ifTag{minipage-\Vcount-\miniBefore}{% \HCode{
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    }\Link{}{Contents}\EndLink \HCode{

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    }} \Configure{crosslinks}{}{\HCode{   }}{\HCode{Next}}{\HCode{Previous}}{} {}{}{\HCode{Contents}} \ConfigureEnv{center} {\ifvmode \IgnorePar\fi \EndP \HCode{

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    }\par\ShowPar} {\relax}{} \Configure{TITLE+} {\ifTag{TITLE+}{\Ref{TITLE+}}{\jobname.html}} %\Configure{chapterTITLE+}{#1} \Configure{sectionTITLE+}{#1} \Configure{subsectionTITLE+}{#1} \Configure{subsubsectionTITLE+}{#1} %\ConfigureToc{chapter} % {\EndSecToc\def\EndSecToc{\HCode{

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    }}{}{} \Configure{section}{}{} {\ifvmode\IgnorePar\fi \EndP \HCode{

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    }\IgnoreIndent\egroup} %\Configure{makeindex}{\HCode{&\#x25A0;}} \Configure{LNK} {\Link} {\EndLink} {\HCode{&\#x25A0;}} \EndPreamble %% \endinput %% \endinput \newtoks\tk \def\setfilename#1{% \tk={#1}% \immediate\openout15=tmp.tmp \immediate\write15{\string\tk{\the\tk}} \immediate\closeout15 \bgroup \csname no:catcodes\endcsname{32}{47}{9}% \csname no:catcodes\endcsname{58}{64}{9}% \csname no:catcodes\endcsname{91}{91}{9}% \csname no:catcodes\endcsname{93}{96}{9}% \csname no:catcodes\endcsname{126}{126}{9}% \input tmp.tmp \xdef\temp{\the\tk}% \egroup \NextFile{\temp.html}% } \let\oldSec=\section \def\section#1{% \setfilename{#1}% \oldSec{#1}% } \let\oldSubsec=\subsection \def\subsection#1{% \setfilename{#1}% \oldSubsec{#1}% } \endinput END howtos.cfg --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From alain.matthes at mac.com Sun May 22 12:10:36 2005 From: alain.matthes at mac.com (Alain Matthes) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:10:36 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Latex programming Message-ID: Hello Sorry for my bad english language.. In a folder (FA) i have some files f1; f2; f4; and f5 I would like to compile all the files of the folder The next code works with success : with the packages ifthen and calc and with a modification of my texmf.cnf file \newcounter{max} \setcounter{max}{6} \newcounter{nb} \setcounter{nb}{1} \whiledo{\value{nb}<\value{max}}{% \InputIfFileExists{FA/f\thenb}{}{} \setcounter{nb}{\value{nb}+1}} I need \InputIfFileExists because there is no f3 in the list of files. Now i would like to compile only the files f1 and f5. \newcommand{\set}{1,5} I try to modify an example of the Guide to Latex (fourth Edition Kopka-Daly ) page 439 this example uses internal commands and : "Since they are still internal commands, they are not guaranteed for all future updates". \newcommand{\set}{start,middle,end} \@for \xx:=\set \do {This is the \xx.} but this example don't work :( problem with \@for I search an answer... Thanks --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 22 12:58:30 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 18:58:30 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Latex programming In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 22 mai 05 ? 18:10, Alain Matthes a ?crit : > In a folder (FA) i have some files f1; f2; f4; and f5 > > I would like to compile all the files of the folder > > The next code works with success : > > with the packages ifthen and calc and with a modification of my > texmf.cnf file > > \newcounter{max} > \setcounter{max}{6} > \newcounter{nb} > \setcounter{nb}{1} > \whiledo{\value{nb}<\value{max}}{% > \InputIfFileExists{FA/f\thenb}{}{} > \setcounter{nb}{\value{nb}+1}} > > I need \InputIfFileExists because there is no f3 in the list of files. > > Now i would like to compile only the files f1 and f5. > \newcommand{\set}{1,5} Are you willing to put together the result of the compilation of all f* files in a single PDF file, or are you simply willing to compile separately all f* files in a given directory? - In the second case, you could try, in Terminal, after using "cd" to move to the required directory, something like apply pdflatex f*.tex This may require passing on options to pdflatex, to get the desired page setup for the output. - In the first case, you could use LaTeX's \include facility. Namely, create a master file of the form \documentclass{report} \includeonly{f1,f2,f4,f5} %\includeonly{f1,f5} \begin{document} \include{f1} \include{f2} \include{f4} \include{f5} \end{document} In case you want to compile only f1 and f5, comment out the first \includeonly and uncomment the second. The drawback of this method is that, of course, it's not automated and you have to enter the file names manually. And that each new input file will start a new page (or even possibly a new right-hand page and add a blank left-hand page if necessary). Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Sun May 22 13:39:20 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 19:39:20 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Pdftex versus TeX&Ghostscript In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, this is a known issue with a recent (post fall 2004) TeX. TeX has changed its behaviour, especially because there now only is one main engine which is used for both pdfTeX and (almost) all other TeXs: pdfetex I am unable to give generic TeX support to all users out there. Please go to the Mac OS X TeX mailing list and look at the archives. Yours, G On 22 May 2005, at 18:45, Hanspeter Kraft wrote: > Hi > > Since quite a while I'm using TeXshop together with the > installation of teTex/TeXLive via i_Installer on MacOSX (presently > 10.3.9). I recently reinstalled teTex/TeXLive using the i_Installer > (always newest versions) and now I have the following strange problem: > > Using Plain TeX in TeXshop, magnification behaves very strangely if > | use "Pdftex", but perfectly if I use "TeX and Ghostscript". The > printout is completely different from what one sees in the > previewer. This was definitely not so before reinstalling the > newest versions of teTeX/TeXLife. > > Thanks for your help Hanspeter Kraft > > ********************************************************************** > > Here are the results using the attached plain tex file Test with > \magnification=\magstep3: > > (a) with "TeX and Ghostscript" (--> attached file Test-TeXGhost.pdf) > TeX messages: > ### This is /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/ > altpdftex, Version $Revision: 2.18 $ > ### /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/tex Test- > TeXGhost.tex > This is TeX, Version 3.141592 (Web2C 7.5.3) > (./Test-TeXGhost.tex [1] ) > Output written on Test-TeXGhost.dvi (1 page, 2576 bytes). > Transcript written on Test-TeXGhost.log. > ### /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/dvips -R - > Poutline -o /tmp/altpdftex.2629-1116776532/Test-TeXGhost.ps Test- > TeXGhost.dvi > This is dvips(k) 5.94b Copyright 2004 Radical Eye Software > (www.radicaleye.com) > ' TeX output 2005.05.22:1742' -> /tmp/altpdftex.2629-1116776532/ > Test-TeXGhost.ps > . [1] > ### ps2pdf13 /tmp/altpdftex.2629-1116776532/Test-TeXGhost.ps /tmp/ > altpdftex.2629-1116776532/Test-TeXGhost.pdf > ### Copying/moving pdf file /tmp/altpdftex.2629-1116776532/Test- > TeXGhost.pdf to Test-TeXGhost.pdf > ### Succesfully generated Test-TeXGhost.dvi and Test-TeXGhost.pdf > > > (b) with "Pdftex" (--> attached file Test-pdf.pdf) > TeX messages: > This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) > \write18 enabled. > output format initialized to PDF > entering extended mode > (./Test-pdf.tex [1{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/ > pdftex/updmap/p > dftex.map}] ) bluesky/cm/cmr10.pfb> > Output written on Test-pdf.pdf (1 page, 5089 bytes). > Transcript written on Test-pdf.log. > > > > > > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > % > % Prof. Dr. Hanspeter Kraft > % Mathematisches Institut, Universitaet Basel > % Rheinsprung 21, CH-4053 Basel, Switzerland > % Tel. (+4161) 267 2690, Fax (+4161) 267 2695 > % Email: Hanspeter.Kraft at unibas.ch, Internet: www.math.unibas.ch > % > %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From alain.matthes at mac.com Sun May 22 13:42:01 2005 From: alain.matthes at mac.com (Alain Matthes) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 19:42:01 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Latex programming In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7643EE3A-8D5A-44FD-A070-B332C06F7CB8@mac.com> Le 22 mai 05 ? 18:58, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > Le 22 mai 05 ? 18:10, Alain Matthes a ?crit : > > >> In a folder (FA) i have some files f1; f2; f4; and f5 >> >> I would like to compile all the files of the folder >> >> The next code works with success : >> >> with the packages ifthen and calc and with a modification of my >> texmf.cnf file >> >> \newcounter{max} >> \setcounter{max}{6} >> \newcounter{nb} >> \setcounter{nb}{1} >> \whiledo{\value{nb}<\value{max}}{% >> \InputIfFileExists{FA/f\thenb}{}{} >> \setcounter{nb}{\value{nb}+1}} >> >> I need \InputIfFileExists because there is no f3 in the list of >> files. >> >> Now i would like to compile only the files f1 and f5. >> \newcommand{\set}{1,5} >> > > Are you willing to put together the result of the compilation of > all f* files in a single PDF file, or are you simply willing to > compile separately all f* files in a given directory? > > - In the second case, you could try, in Terminal, after using "cd" > to move to the required directory, something like > > apply pdflatex f*.tex > > This may require passing on options to pdflatex, to get the desired > page setup for the output. > > - In the first case, you could use LaTeX's \include facility. > Namely, create a master file of the form > > \documentclass{report} > > \includeonly{f1,f2,f4,f5} > %\includeonly{f1,f5} > > \begin{document} > > \include{f1} > \include{f2} > \include{f4} > \include{f5} > > \end{document} > > In case you want to compile only f1 and f5, comment out the first > \includeonly and uncomment the second. The drawback of this method > is that, of course, it's not automated and you have to enter the > file names manually. And that each new input file will start a new > page (or even possibly a new right-hand page and add a blank left- > hand page if necessary). > Thanks for the answer . It's the second case but it's not automated !! [ if i have 20 or 30 files in a folder :( ( exercices of math...)] and each new input file will start a new page (I do not want that). If i want a document with all the exercices, my method with \InputIfFileExists is fine ( i can insert a macro for numerotation and presentation etc.... \InputIfFileExists{file}{macro}{} i need a method with a list like \newcommand{\set}{1,5} etc... in the case of a choice of some exercices (for example 10 over 30) and because i can make a macro and i put the macro in a class. I In fact, I seek a Package to program some lists of elements. There is some examples in TeX In Pratice v III (Stephane Von Bechtolsheim) but in TEX not LATEX. And i would like to understand why the example of the Guide to Latex (fourth Edition Kopka-Daly ) page 439 \newcommand{\set}{start,middle,end} \@for \xx:=\set \do {This is the \xx.} do not work Thanks Alain Matthes--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 22 14:08:07 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 20:08:07 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Pdftex versus TeX&Ghostscript In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6FCFA87E-116A-4920-BBCC-2606834157E9@mac.com> Le 22 mai 05 ? 19:39, Gerben Wierda a ?crit : > this is a known issue with a recent (post fall 2004) TeX. TeX has > changed its behaviour, especially because there now only is one > main engine which is used for both pdfTeX and (almost) all other > TeXs: pdfetex > > I am unable to give generic TeX support to all users out there. > Please go to the Mac OS X TeX mailing list and look at the archives. > > On 22 May 2005, at 18:45, Hanspeter Kraft wrote: > >> Since quite a while I'm using TeXshop together with the >> installation of teTex/TeXLive via i_Installer on MacOSX (presently >> 10.3.9). I recently reinstalled teTex/TeXLive using the >> i_Installer (always newest versions) and now I have the following >> strange problem: >> >> Using Plain TeX in TeXshop, magnification behaves very strangely >> if | use "Pdftex", but perfectly if I use "TeX and Ghostscript". >> The printout is completely different from what one sees in the >> previewer. This was definitely not so before reinstalling the >> newest versions of teTeX/TeXLife. >> >> Thanks for your help Hanspeter Kraft >> >> ********************************************************************* >> * >> >> Here are the results using the attached plain tex file Test with >> \magnification=\magstep3: I'm reposting here a reply to a similar question from a couple of days ago. In short: replace \magnification=\magstep3 by \mag=\magstep3 \input pdftexconfig \hsize=210truemm \advance\hsize by-2truein \vsize=297truemm \advance\vsize by-2.1truein The \hsize and \vsize here are for A4 paper, assuming 1-inch wide margins (with additional 0.1 inch for the footer) which is plain TeX's default. The idea is that, after setting a magnification using TeX's primitive \mag, you need to reset not only \hsize and \vsize in true units, as does plain TeX's \magnification macro, but also the pdfTeX-specific parameters \pdfpageheight and \pdfpagewidth which define the mediabox (the size of the sheet of paper) and possibly also \pdfhorigin and \pdfvorigin. The file pdftexconfig.tex (actually /Library/teTeX/share/ texmf.gwtex/tex/generic/config/pdftexconfig.tex) does this, and contains values defined when installing gwTeX (when you chose the paper size). Bruno Voisin > De : Bruno Voisin > Date : 18 mai 2005 17:37:51 HAEC > ? : TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List > Objet : R?p : [OS X TeX] strange pdflatex behaviour > > Le 18 mai 05 ? 17:20, Alessandro Languasco a ?crit : > > >> Typesetting using pdflatex an easy file like this >> >> \magnification=2000 >> >> this is a trial file >> >> \end >> >> instead of obtaining a magnification of the fonts, >> I had a shrinking of the page in the upper left corner. >> It was as the \magnification command was used as a magnification >> factor of the page instead of the fonts. >> > > I don't think that's connected with Tiger. It arises because of a > change in the design of TeXLive 2004: pdfTeX takes additional > parameters in addition to the \hsize and \vsize of TeX, namely > \pdfpageheight and \pdfpagewidth defining the MediaBox of the PDF > document, and the ways these are affected by \mag and > \magnification have changed with TL2004. > > There's been a thread "R?exp : [tex-live] [Fwd: [OS X TeX] Bug in > latest pdfTeX (and/or teTeX) with respect to \magnification?]" > about these issues on 21-22 December 2004, to which one of the > developers of pdfTeX (Hartmut Henkel) contributed. > > After re-reading very rapidly some of the messages in this thread, > I think what should be done is replacing > > \magnification=2000 > > by > > \mag=2000 > \input pdftexconfig > > Also, it's not advised to use \mag or \magnification with LaTeX. > It's supposed to be a plain-TeX-specific thing, told incompatible > with LaTeX in the LaTeX manual. > > Following is one message from the original thread (with email > addresses removed). > > HTH, > > Bruno Voisin > > > >> From: Hartmut Henkel >> Date: 21 December 2004 01:16:00 GMT+01:00 >> To: Gerben Wierda >> Subject: Re: [tex-live] [Fwd: [OS X TeX] Bug in latest pdfTeX (and/ >> or teTeX) with respect to \magnification?] >> >> On Mon, 20 Dec 2004, Gerben Wierda wrote: >> >> >> >>> I saw this message on the TeX on Mac OS X list. Not being a pdfTeX >>> expert (I just redistribute) I wondered what is going on. Can >>> someone >>> educate me? >>> >>> >> >> will try... :-) >> >> >> >>> G >>> >>> ---------------------------- Original Message >>> ---------------------------- >>> Subject: [OS X TeX] Bug in latest pdfTeX (and/or teTeX) with >>> respect to >>> \magnification? From: "Bruno Voisin" >>> Date: Mon, December 20, 2004 10:26 >>> To: "TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List" >>> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> ------ >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I've just noticed something odd, when typesetting a letter in plain >>> TeX for a change: >>> >>> - The setup is TL2004, installed via i-Installer with A4 selected as >>> the default paper size. >>> >>> - When \magnification is not altered, in pdfTeX the paper size is A4 >>> as it should. >>> >>> - When \magnification is changed (for example >>> \magnification=\magstep1), the page size (ie the width and height of >>> text) remains A4 but the paper size (ie the size of the physcal >>> sheet >>> of paper) is affected by the magnification. >>> >>> >> >> The \magnification macro (not a primitive!) does not only set the >> magnification factor, it also sets the \hsize and \vsize to true >> dimensions with letter default, see plain.tex. So in the general >> non-letter case one should say \mag=\magstep1 instead of using >> \magnification. >> >> >> >>> It seems that in TL2004 the file pdftex.cfg has vanished and is >>> replaced by >>> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/generic/config/ >>> pdftexconfig.tex, >>> which contains all the proper settings: >>> >>> \pdfpagewidth=594.99 true bp >>> \pdfpageheight=841.99 true bp >>> \pdfhorigin=1 true in >>> \pdfvorigin=1 true in >>> >>> - When this file is not read, the above result is obtained. >>> >>> - When this file is explicitly read (by \input pdftexconfig) after >>> setting the magnification, namely: >>> >>> \magnification=\magstep1 >>> \input pdftexconfig >>> >>> then the paper size is brought back to A4 as it should. >>> >>> - When this file is read before setting the magnification, namely: >>> >>> \input pdftexconfig >>> \magnification=\magstep1 >>> >>> then an error is produced: >>> >>> (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/generic/config/ >>> pdftexconfig.tex) >>> ! Incompatible magnification (1200); >>> the previous value will be retained (1000). >>> \m at g ->\mag \count@ \hsize 6.5true >>> in\vsize 8.9truein\dimen >>> \footins >>> 8truein >>> >>> \relax >>> l.3 \magnification=\magstep1 >>> >>> >> >> The \hsize stuff in the error message is from the \m at g macro of >> plain.tex. The error is caused by a TeX feature: After a \dimen >> has been >> set to a "true" dimension in a certain \mag environment, the \mag is >> frozen and can't be changed any more. Now, when the file >> pdftexconfig.tex is read, some \dimen are set to true dimensions, >> like >> \pdfpagewidth, so \mag=1000 is frozen. Then comes a new \mag >> (1200), and >> then \hsize6.5truein from the \magnification helper macro \m at g >> triggers >> the error message. Other examples: >> >> \vsize=297truemm \mag=\magstep1 \hsize=210truemm \bye >> >> gives a similar error message in TeX. It's nothing special with >> pdftex. >> And >> >> \vsize=297truemm \mag=\magstep1 \hsize=210mm \bye >> >> is ok, as is this: >> >> \vsize=297mm \mag=\magstep1 \hsize=210truemm \bye >> >> A try on a few hints to avoid this true dimensions weirdness: >> >> * Set \mag early. >> >> * If you set anything to true dimensions _before_ setting \mag, you >> can't do _after_ setting \mag. Vice versa. >> >> * Set all necessary \dimen to true dimensions after \mag, even >> when they >> already have had non-true values before \mag -- just to be sure, that >> everything comes out right. For pdftex don't forget to set >> \pdfpagewidth/height, \pdfhorigin, and \pdfvorigin to the wished true >> dimensions. >> >> * Or, prescale the \dimen to a non-true dimension so that it comes >> out >> right after the \mag has been set to a new value. >> >> >> >>> Is there something obvious I've done wrong? Or is this a bug in >>> pdfTeX? >>> >>> >> >> It should be inline with how TeX's \mag is supposed to work. >> >> >> >>> I've verified the same occurs with >>> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/plain/base/story.tex, thus it >>> doesn't seem specific to my TeX input file. >>> >>> Bruno Voisin >>> >>> >> >> Regards, Hartmut --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gkreme at gmail.com Sun May 22 17:40:51 2005 From: gkreme at gmail.com (Google Kreme) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 15:40:51 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <804B6223-934C-46E3-94AD-15C0EE5F2299@gmail.com> On 21 May 2005, at 13:06 , Rene Borgella wrote: > Did you try "htlatex" ? I have no such executable in my path (see below) On 21 May 2005, at 08:53 , Peter Dyballa wrote: > Recently there where threads about tex4ht, which converts (La)TeX > to HTML and comes in an i-Package. Besides latex2html there too is > hevea: http://pauillac.inria.fr/~maranget/hevea/ I don't se a tex4ht in i-installer either. Where is it? I did a `locate htlatex` and found this: /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/htlatex but that resulted in lots of errors. /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/htlatex mydoc.tex "html" This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) kpathsea: Running mktexfmt latex.fmt fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found. I can't find the format file `latex.fmt'! This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) kpathsea: Running mktexfmt latex.fmt fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found. I can't find the format file `latex.fmt'! This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) kpathsea: Running mktexfmt latex.fmt fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found. I can't find the format file `latex.fmt'! /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/htlatex: line 5: tex4ht: command not found /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/htlatex: line 6: t4ht: command not found -- [The PSP] could have voice recognition too, so when you go "nyuuurrrrrrrr-uuuuuurrrrrrrrrrr-uuuuuuurrrrrrrrr" you go faster, and when you go "Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii" you stop --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Sun May 22 17:54:46 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 23:54:46 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <804B6223-934C-46E3-94AD-15C0EE5F2299@gmail.com> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <804B6223-934C-46E3-94AD-15C0EE5F2299@gmail.com> Message-ID: <034DC619-3B32-42BF-82C5-80C401876C36@rna.nl> On 22 May 2005, at 23:40, Google Kreme wrote: > > On 21 May 2005, at 13:06 , Rene Borgella wrote: > > >> Did you try "htlatex" ? >> > > I have no such executable in my path (see below) > > > On 21 May 2005, at 08:53 , Peter Dyballa wrote: > > >> Recently there where threads about tex4ht, which converts (La)TeX >> to HTML and comes in an i-Package. Besides latex2html there too is >> hevea: http://pauillac.inria.fr/~maranget/hevea/ >> > > I don't se a tex4ht in i-installer either. Where is it? It is part of a normal TeX i-Package install. There is no separate i- Package these days. > I did a `locate htlatex` and found this: > > /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/htlatex So, #1, there is something amiss with your PATH. > but that resulted in lots of errors. > > /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/htlatex mydoc.tex "html" > This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) > kpathsea: Running mktexfmt latex.fmt > fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found. > I can't find the format file `latex.fmt'! That is a pretty old TeX. The oldest TeX that is in the TeX i-Package is TeX (Web2C 7.5.2) 3.141592 kpathsea version 3.5.2 > This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) > kpathsea: Running mktexfmt latex.fmt > fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found. > I can't find the format file `latex.fmt'! > This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5) > kpathsea: Running mktexfmt latex.fmt > fmtutil: config file `fmtutil.cnf' not found. > I can't find the format file `latex.fmt'! > /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/htlatex: line 5: > tex4ht: command not found > /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin6.8/htlatex: line 6: t4ht: > command not found This is probably the same problem. As your PATH is erroneous, htlatex cannot start the programs. "which" can tell you if it is found. $ which tex4ht /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/tex4ht My guess: there is a second very old TeX on your system without TeX4ht and while the i-Package got installed correctly, the TeX you are actually using is another one. Try which tex on the command line to find out which one you are actually using. And check your environment because it is causing your problems. The command env tells you what is in there. G > > > -- > [The PSP] could have voice recognition too, so when you go > "nyuuurrrrrrrr-uuuuuurrrrrrrrrrr-uuuuuuurrrrrrrrr" you go faster, > and when you go "Iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii" you stop > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From kprs at calvin.edu Sun May 22 21:26:15 2005 From: kprs at calvin.edu (Jack Kuipers) Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 21:26:15 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <034DC619-3B32-42BF-82C5-80C401876C36@rna.nl> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <804B6223-934C-46E3-94AD-15C0EE5F2299@gmail.com> <034DC619-3B32-42BF-82C5-80C401876C36@rna.nl> Message-ID: A SIMPLE(?) question: I am Using a G4 Laptop ala OSX(10.3.9) and TeXShop 1.40, PLEASE, How do I get the example.tex file to appear in English (arabic) instead of some Far-eastern: Korean, Chinese, or whatever ( I can not identify). However, it compiles properly to give a readable pdf output file in English. Strange! ALL my tex (code) files appear in this Korean(?) font. Please help a person who may be too-old to understand. Anyway, Thank You, in advance, So Sorry, if this goes too far and wide, Jack Kuipers --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 23 05:03:15 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:03:15 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <804B6223-934C-46E3-94AD-15C0EE5F2299@gmail.com> <034DC619-3B32-42BF-82C5-80C401876C36@rna.nl> Message-ID: <64cb0f9d16940feccedec7c89678f454@Web.DE> Am 23.05.2005 um 03:26 schrieb Jack Kuipers: > How do I get the example.tex file to appear in English Which example.tex file do you mean? I think I have a few of them ... -- Greetings Pete Never be led astray onto the path of virtue. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From piet at cs.uu.nl Mon May 23 05:28:28 2005 From: piet at cs.uu.nl (Piet van Oostrum) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:28:28 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Latex programming In-Reply-To: (Alain Matthes's message of "Sun, 22 May 2005 18:10:36 +0200") References: Message-ID: >>>>> Alain Matthes (AM) wrote: >AM> \newcommand{\set}{start,middle,end} >AM> \@for \xx:=\set \do {This is the \xx.} >AM> but this example don't work :( problem with \@for \makeatletter \@for \xx:=\set \do {This is the \xx.} \makeatother -- Piet van Oostrum URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP] Private email: piet at vanoostrum.org --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From kprs at calvin.edu Mon May 23 06:35:17 2005 From: kprs at calvin.edu (Jack Kuipers) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 06:35:17 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <64cb0f9d16940feccedec7c89678f454@Web.DE> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <804B6223-934C-46E3-94AD-15C0EE5F2299@gmail.com> <034DC619-3B32-42BF-82C5-80C401876C36@rna.nl> <64cb0f9d16940feccedec7c89678f454@Web.DE> Message-ID: <0ea666a89a1279db5386fb9a52e17c78@calvin.edu> On 23 May, 2005, at 5:03 AM, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 23.05.2005 um 03:26 schrieb Jack Kuipers: > >> How do I get the example.tex file to appear in English > > Which example.tex file do you mean? I think I have a few of them ... The example.tex file in The Beginner file by Dick Koch in the TeX 1.4 File. In fact all of my old tex files are in korean(?) font. JBKuipers > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > Never be led astray onto the path of virtue. > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fstengel at mac.com Mon May 23 06:44:22 2005 From: fstengel at mac.com (Frank STENGEL) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:44:22 +0000 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <0ea666a89a1279db5386fb9a52e17c78@calvin.edu> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <804B6223-934C-46E3-94AD-15C0EE5F2299@gmail.com> <034DC619-3B32-42BF-82C5-80C401876C36@rna.nl> <64cb0f9d16940feccedec7c89678f454@Web.DE> <0ea666a89a1279db5386fb9a52e17c78@calvin.edu> Message-ID: <3554D551-1C9A-436F-B939-47F75D0D3EF3@mac.com> Le 23 mai 05 ? 10:35, Jack Kuipers a ?crit : > The example.tex file in The Beginner file by Dick Koch in the TeX > 1.4 File. > In fact all of my old tex files are in korean(?) font. > JBKuipers > Could be a problem with the document encoding. From what you describe, the document is interpreted in UTF-8 or even UTF-16. What editor are you using? What are the settings for the text encoding? -- Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Roberto.Avanzi at ruhr-uni-bochum.de Mon May 23 07:11:12 2005 From: Roberto.Avanzi at ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Roberto Avanzi) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:11:12 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: MacOSX-TeX Digest #1380 - 05/22/05 In-Reply-To: <36813.91361@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <36813.91361@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <1bc7b897245eda6de10e984b16478af0@ruhr-uni-bochum.de> On 22 May 2005 12:03:18 +0200, "Bruno Voisin" wrote: > Le 22 mai 05 ? 11:22, Roberto Avanzi a ?crit : > >> (II) After writing defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands NO >> everything worked > > Do you really mean > > defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands NO > > and not > > defaults write TeXShop UseOldHeadingCommands YES > ehr, yes I used YES Funny, though, that they now the files open always correctly regardless fo the value of the UseOldHeadingCommands switch !! >>> This also means that the XeTeX samples should be changed at some >>> point, to reflect TeXShop's new syntax. >> >> I guess supporting both would be incompatible, right? > > Personally I think backwards-compatibility is always desirable, and > that it would be better for TeXShop, while still describing the new > syntax in the doc, to provide compatibility with the old syntax by > setting the default value of UseOldHeadingCommands to YES. let us write to Richard Koch :-) > > A second alternative solution: have TeXShop, when opening a file > using the old syntax, (1) detect this syntax and interpret the file > content properly, (2) display a dialog telling an old syntax has been > detected, that conversion is necessary and asking for permission to > do so, (3) in case the answer is yes change the required lines to the > new syntax and finally (4) make sure that when the file will be saved > the proper encoding will be used. > This would be nice. But why not keeping support for old syntax anyway? LaTeX2e has a compatibility mode for LaTeX 2.09, and the approach can be viewed as a source of inspiration :-) Roberto -- _/_/ Dr. Roberto Avanzi, Junior Professor /_/ Faculty of Mathematics and HGI _/ Ruhr University Bochum / I used to play Zork on a Vax running VMS. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Mon May 23 07:31:59 2005 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:31:59 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 Message-ID: <8A186384-2A6E-4E11-8A78-9DF6F63F0C97@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Flashmode-TS now works with TeXShop/TeXShop under Tiger. A modified TeXShop 2.03 application has to be used which can be downloaded independently from http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod-G4.zip or http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod-G5.zip The modification prevents the pdf window to come to front after a refreshpdf command is issued. The G4 compilation will also run on a G5 but not as smoothly as the G5 version in my own subjective view. At the moment I consider the new combination (F-editor-previewer) to be the best of the Flashmode variants which is mainly due to OS 10.4, PDFKit and its superb implementation in TeXShop by Richard Koch. Claus --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 23 10:31:50 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:31:50 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <0ea666a89a1279db5386fb9a52e17c78@calvin.edu> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <804B6223-934C-46E3-94AD-15C0EE5F2299@gmail.com> <034DC619-3B32-42BF-82C5-80C401876C36@rna.nl> <64cb0f9d16940feccedec7c89678f454@Web.DE> <0ea666a89a1279db5386fb9a52e17c78@calvin.edu> Message-ID: Am 23.05.2005 um 12:35 schrieb Jack Kuipers: > The example.tex file in The Beginner file by Dick Koch in the TeX 1.4 > File. > In fact all of my old tex files are in korean(?) font. The Beginners' file Example.tex is definitely US-ASCII. I checked it with three applications: GNU Emacs, vim and TeXShop. I presume that you have set the default encoding to UTF-8. ISO Latin-1 is much better approach! -- Greetings Pete "A mathematician is a machine that turns coffee into theorems." --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From paolo at hss.caltech.edu Mon May 23 10:57:30 2005 From: paolo at hss.caltech.edu (Paolo Ghirardato) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 16:57:30 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint In-Reply-To: <8A186384-2A6E-4E11-8A78-9DF6F63F0C97@math.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <8A186384-2A6E-4E11-8A78-9DF6F63F0C97@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Message-ID: <112C715E-8653-4038-A46A-46E45A40DD0E@hss.caltech.edu> > Flashmode-TS now works with TeXShop/TeXShop under Tiger. A modified > TeXShop 2.03 application has to be used which can be downloaded > independently from > > http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod- > G4.zip > or > http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod- > G5.zip > > The modification prevents the pdf window to come to front after a > refreshpdf command is issued. The G4 compilation will also run on a > G5 but not as smoothly as the G5 version in my own subjective view. > > At the moment I consider the new combination (F-editor-previewer) > to be the best of the Flashmode variants which is mainly due to OS > 10.4, PDFKit and its superb implementation in TeXShop by Richard Koch. > > Claus > > I have gone to Claus's website, to download this version of FS, and I have realized to my dismay that, even though I have purchased a license for FS, I will have to buy a new one if I want to use this version. In fact, the version I bought is for the Alpha/TeXniscope combination, and I have now learned that I need to buy a new version if I want to use it with the TeXShop/TeXShop combination. I don't know about the other people in this list, but I have to admit that paying almost 120$ for a fully functional version of FS (one that would work for any setup I might be using) -- or even paying almost 60$ for one that only works with Alpha and TeXShop, for that matter -- seems to me frankly excessive. I understand that each combination requires specific work (is it really totally different as the pricing scheme suggests?), and I understood Claus's decision to charge for his useful program when I made it. In fact, I paid my 29.50 without complaining. Yet, it seems to me that the pricing scheme for Flashmode should have been devised in a manner that does not de facto constrain me to use a specific editor and previewer. paolo --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Mon May 23 11:28:25 2005 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 17:28:25 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint In-Reply-To: <112C715E-8653-4038-A46A-46E45A40DD0E@hss.caltech.edu> References: <8A186384-2A6E-4E11-8A78-9DF6F63F0C97@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <112C715E-8653-4038-A46A-46E45A40DD0E@hss.caltech.edu> Message-ID: <6A95B0C7-26F8-438D-BDB5-8710454D1D8D@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Paolo, Under Flashmode's pricing scheme all buyers of a special variant get free upgrades of that variant whenever there is one available. Offering upgrades to all, regardless of which variant they have bought poses a slightly logistical problem. However, any buyer of a Flashmode variant can write me an email and ask for a copy of another variant. At the moment there is no risk that I shall drown in possible requests. I shall send you a F-TS copy. By the way you bought a copy of F/ BBEdit not Alpha. I would also like to discourage anybody to buy the Alpha variant, since it will no longer be supported. Claus On May 23, 2005, at 16:57, Paolo Ghirardato wrote: > > > >> Flashmode-TS now works with TeXShop/TeXShop under Tiger. A >> modified TeXShop 2.03 application has to be used which can be >> downloaded independently from >> >> http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod- >> G4.zip >> or >> http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod- >> G5.zip >> >> The modification prevents the pdf window to come to front after a >> refreshpdf command is issued. The G4 compilation will also run on >> a G5 but not as smoothly as the G5 version in my own subjective view. >> >> At the moment I consider the new combination (F-editor-previewer) >> to be the best of the Flashmode variants which is mainly due to OS >> 10.4, PDFKit and its superb implementation in TeXShop by Richard >> Koch. >> >> Claus >> >> >> > > I have gone to Claus's website, to download this version of FS, and > I have realized to my dismay that, even though I have purchased a > license for FS, I will have to buy a new one if I want to use this > version. In fact, the version I bought is for the Alpha/TeXniscope > combination, and I have now learned that I need to buy a new > version if I want to use it with the TeXShop/TeXShop combination. > > I don't know about the other people in this list, but I have to > admit that paying almost 120$ for a fully functional version of FS > (one that would work for any setup I might be using) -- or even > paying almost 60$ for one that only works with Alpha and TeXShop, > for that matter -- seems to me frankly excessive. > > I understand that each combination requires specific work (is it > really totally different as the pricing scheme suggests?), and I > understood Claus's decision to charge for his useful program when I > made it. In fact, I paid my 29.50 without complaining. Yet, it > seems to me that the pricing scheme for Flashmode should have been > devised in a manner that does not de facto constrain me to use a > specific editor and previewer. > paolo > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bkerstetter at mac.com Mon May 23 13:41:27 2005 From: bkerstetter at mac.com (Bob Kerstetter) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:41:27 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Form Documents Message-ID: Hi, For 10 years we have been using Word and VBA to generate form documents. We enter name, address, etc for one person, then use that information to generate 24 different documents, each one customized with the name, address, etc. for the one person. Is there some way of doing this with TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt so: 1. The users have a Mac-like dialog box where they can tab forward, backward, etc to enter the information about the person, then press OK to create the 24 docs. 2. The user can do as number 1, but then select from a list the docs they want to create. 3. The user can edit the text of the output PDF with Acrobat or whatever and the lines still wrap and the pages still break. BTW, the output is double spaced. Bob Bob Kerstetter http:/ --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fcnpereira at mac.com Mon May 23 14:01:22 2005 From: fcnpereira at mac.com (Fernando Pereira) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:01:22 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint In-Reply-To: <112C715E-8653-4038-A46A-46E45A40DD0E@hss.caltech.edu> References: <8A186384-2A6E-4E11-8A78-9DF6F63F0C97@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <112C715E-8653-4038-A46A-46E45A40DD0E@hss.caltech.edu> Message-ID: <1BE04613-0C48-4799-AAAB-B2A6607CA176@mac.com> On May 23, 2005, at 10:57 AM, Paolo Ghirardato wrote: >> Flashmode-TS now works with TeXShop/TeXShop under Tiger. A >> modified TeXShop 2.03 application has to be used which can be >> downloaded independently from >> >> http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod- >> G4.zip >> or >> http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod- >> G5.zip >> >> The modification prevents the pdf window to come to front after a >> refreshpdf command is issued. The G4 compilation will also run on >> a G5 but not as smoothly as the G5 version in my own subjective view. >> >> At the moment I consider the new combination (F-editor-previewer) >> to be the best of the Flashmode variants which is mainly due to OS >> 10.4, PDFKit and its superb implementation in TeXShop by Richard >> Koch. Using the terms of section 2 of the GPL, this is not a "mere aggregation", since it involves a modification of GPLed software to work better with non-GPLed Flashmode-TS, and a distribution of the modification in concert with non-GPLed code. I feel that this is at least in spirit contrary to the intent of the GPL, and thus I would not buy Flashmode-TS, even though I buy plenty of non-free software. -- F --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Mon May 23 14:29:01 2005 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:29:01 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint In-Reply-To: <1BE04613-0C48-4799-AAAB-B2A6607CA176@mac.com> References: <8A186384-2A6E-4E11-8A78-9DF6F63F0C97@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <112C715E-8653-4038-A46A-46E45A40DD0E@hss.caltech.edu> <1BE04613-0C48-4799-AAAB-B2A6607CA176@mac.com> Message-ID: I do not concur with Fernando's Pereira's conclusions that I violated the spirit of the GPL License. But before this whole discussion is getting out of bounds let me announce that Richard Koch will implement the modification officially so that this point will be moot. Claus On May 23, 2005, at 20:01, Fernando Pereira wrote: > > On May 23, 2005, at 10:57 AM, Paolo Ghirardato wrote: > >>> Flashmode-TS now works with TeXShop/TeXShop under Tiger. A >>> modified TeXShop 2.03 application has to be used which can be >>> downloaded independently from >>> >>> http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod- >>> G4.zip >>> or >>> http://www.math.uni-heidelberg.de/studinfo/gerhardt/texshop203mod- >>> G5.zip >>> >>> The modification prevents the pdf window to come to front after a >>> refreshpdf command is issued. The G4 compilation will also run on >>> a G5 but not as smoothly as the G5 version in my own subjective >>> view. >>> >>> At the moment I consider the new combination (F-editor-previewer) >>> to be the best of the Flashmode variants which is mainly due to >>> OS 10.4, PDFKit and its superb implementation in TeXShop by >>> Richard Koch. >>> > > Using the terms of section 2 of the GPL, this is not a "mere > aggregation", since it involves a modification of GPLed software to > work better with non-GPLed Flashmode-TS, and a distribution of the > modification in concert with non-GPLed code. I feel that this is at > least in spirit contrary to the intent of the GPL, and thus I would > not buy Flashmode-TS, even though I buy plenty of non-free software. > > -- F > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From curt.clifton at mac.com Mon May 23 14:33:22 2005 From: curt.clifton at mac.com (Curtis Clifton) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 13:33:22 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Form Documents In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46d1a70341a583afac6e7ed45f83a0cf@mac.com> On May 23, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Bob Kerstetter wrote: > Hi, > > For 10 years we have been using Word and VBA to generate form > documents. We enter name, address, etc for one person, then use that > information to generate 24 different documents, each one customized > with the name, address, etc. for the one person. > > Is there some way of doing this with TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt so: > > 1. The users have a Mac-like dialog box where they can tab forward, > backward, etc to enter the information about the person, then press OK > to create the 24 docs. > > 2. The user can do as number 1, but then select from a list the docs > they want to create. Items 1 and 2 could be accomplished without much difficulty using AppleScript with an AppleScript Studio interface. > 3. The user can edit the text of the output PDF with Acrobat or > whatever and the lines still wrap and the pages still break. BTW, the > output is double spaced. I'm not sure about this. To edit the generated documents it would be technically easier (i.e., easier for the implementer) to have the script generate TeX source which the user would edit. This might be reasonable, especially if the scripts typeset the documents so TeXShop could be launched with a source and a preview window open. I hope I don't start a flame war---I've already been in mine for the month---but if WYSIWYG editing is really a requirement, then perhaps a non-TeX solution is required. Cheers, Curt ---------------------------------- Curtis Clifton, PhD Candidate Dept. of Computer Science, Iowa State University http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~cclifton --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bkerstetter at mac.com Mon May 23 15:16:24 2005 From: bkerstetter at mac.com (Bob Kerstetter) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:16:24 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Form Documents In-Reply-To: <46d1a70341a583afac6e7ed45f83a0cf@mac.com> References: <46d1a70341a583afac6e7ed45f83a0cf@mac.com> Message-ID: <803924E1-3AF7-4B02-B518-0796CCB9E08B@mac.com> On May 23, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Curtis Clifton wrote: Hello Curtis, > On May 23, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Bob Kerstetter wrote: > > >> Hi, >> >> For 10 years we have been using Word and VBA to generate form >> documents. We enter name, address, etc for one person, then use >> that information to generate 24 different documents, each one >> customized with the name, address, etc. for the one person. >> >> Is there some way of doing this with TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt so: >> >> 1. The users have a Mac-like dialog box where they can tab >> forward, backward, etc to enter the information about the person, >> then press OK to create the 24 docs. >> >> 2. The user can do as number 1, but then select from a list the >> docs they want to create. >> > > Items 1 and 2 could be accomplished without much difficulty using > AppleScript with an AppleScript Studio interface. Thanks. I'll look into this. Just bought Goodman's PDF book on AppleScript a month or so ago, but have not had a chance to look at it. This is now a chance. ;) >> 3. The user can edit the text of the output PDF with Acrobat or >> whatever and the lines still wrap and the pages still break. BTW, >> the output is double spaced. >> > > I'm not sure about this. To edit the generated documents it would > be technically easier (i.e., easier for the implementer) to have > the script generate TeX source which the user would edit. This > might be reasonable, especially if the scripts typeset the > documents so TeXShop could be launched with a source and a preview > window open. You know, outputing tex source and having the users edit with Lyx, or whatever, might not be a bad idea. It could output the PDF and the source, so the users only edit what they need to edit. > I hope I don't start a flame war---I've already been in mine for > the month---but if WYSIWYG editing is really a requirement, then > perhaps a non-TeX solution is required. No flames from me. We are pretty frustrated right now because Word 2004 will not consistently run our VBA frontend for these docs. They've worked without mods for the last eight or so years on Windows and Mac (8.6 and 9.2) versions of Word. The frontend is very simple and does nothing cute. Actually, it will still run when stepping (F8-ing) through the commands in the VBA editor, but it crashes reliably and consistently when just running the macros. Maybe a 1.8 GHz G5 iMac is too much horsepower for an "aging" VBA engine? Could that be? I don't know. We've tried building in delays for the I/O, but that does not help. BTW, in defense of my integrity, I've probably stated on this list that I don't program. I don't. I hack at BASIC and a teeny tiny bit at AppleScript, plus a Perl CGI or two in a previous job. But I don't remember things from one project to the next. I don't do it enough to remember. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From timbrophy at mac.com Mon May 23 15:27:28 2005 From: timbrophy at mac.com (Tim Brophy) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 20:27:28 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7848483E-B7B7-4B2E-A9B2-53D14942178E@mac.com> On 21 May 2005, at 21:32, Bob Kerstetter wrote: > > On May 21, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Google Kreme wrote: > > >> >> I am trying to convert a LaTeX file into html, and though I could >> use the texi2html command from the terminal. However: >> >> % texi2html myfile.tex >> ** empty document >> % texi2html -l2h myfile.tex >> ** empty document >> % >> > > > try: > > htlatex yourlatexdoc "html" > > this runs tex4ht, which is part of the i-installer TeX package. > > > Add the info option: > > htlatex yourtexdoc "html,info" > > to put about 60K worth of options and execution info--sort of like > a user manual--into the yourlatexdoc.log file. > > > TeX4ht is very configurable and flexible. I don't use the defaults > because of my employer's specialized requirements, but the defaults > do a very good job of producing html from LaTeX source. TeX4ht also > works with TeX and ConTeXt. > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > I hate showing my stupidity yet again! How can I use that command in the terminal? I get [G4:~] tim% htlatex tcsh: htlatex: Command not found. [G4:~] tim% Tim Brophy --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From curt.clifton at mac.com Mon May 23 16:04:30 2005 From: curt.clifton at mac.com (Curtis Clifton) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:04:30 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Form Documents In-Reply-To: <803924E1-3AF7-4B02-B518-0796CCB9E08B@mac.com> References: <46d1a70341a583afac6e7ed45f83a0cf@mac.com> <803924E1-3AF7-4B02-B518-0796CCB9E08B@mac.com> Message-ID: <2ae8a18f79ba3987500ff852cca0ce26@mac.com> Bob, This is an interesting project. I've been thinking about it a bit more... On May 23, 2005, at 2:16 PM, Bob Kerstetter wrote: > On May 23, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Curtis Clifton wrote: > > Hello Curtis, > >> On May 23, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Bob Kerstetter wrote: >> >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> For 10 years we have been using Word and VBA to generate form >>> documents. We enter name, address, etc for one person, then use that >>> information to generate 24 different documents, each one customized >>> with the name, address, etc. for the one person. >>> >>> Is there some way of doing this with TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt so: >>> >>> 1. The users have a Mac-like dialog box where they can tab forward, >>> backward, etc to enter the information about the person, then press >>> OK to create the 24 docs. >>> >>> 2. The user can do as number 1, but then select from a list the docs >>> they want to create. >>> >> >> Items 1 and 2 could be accomplished without much difficulty using >> AppleScript with an AppleScript Studio interface. > > Thanks. I'll look into this. Just bought Goodman's PDF book on > AppleScript a month or so ago, but have not had a chance to look at > it. This is now a chance. ;) It might work nicely to have the AppleScript create a new folder for all the documents. It could then just copy all the required document sources into that directory. For the info about the person, you might have the script generate a separate LaTeX file that defines commands. Something like: \newcommand{\personsFirstName}{Jane} \newcommand{\personsLastName}{Doe} etc. This "definitions" file could then be \input in the preamble of each of your document sources. Within the sources you would just use the commands, like \personsFirstName. With this architecture your AppleScript wouldn't have to edit the document sources at all, a task that AppleScript isn't well suited for. This also lets you use a default definitions file when developing your template documents. You'll probably need to use AppleScript's "do shell script" command to invoke the typesetting engine on the document sources. > [snip] We are pretty frustrated right now because Word 2004 will not > consistently run our VBA frontend for these docs. They've worked > without mods for the last eight or so years on Windows and Mac (8.6 > and 9.2) versions of Word. The frontend is very simple and does > nothing cute. Actually, it will still run when stepping (F8-ing) > through the commands in the VBA editor, but it crashes reliably and > consistently when just running the macros. Maybe a 1.8 GHz G5 iMac is > too much horsepower for an "aging" VBA engine? Could that be? I don't > know. We've tried building in delays for the I/O, but that does not > help. Technically, that seems unlikely. But I've seen stranger things. No other explanation comes readily to mind, but it's been 6 years since I touched VBA. > BTW, in defense of my integrity, I've probably stated on this list > that I don't program. I don't. I hack at BASIC and a teeny tiny bit at > AppleScript, plus a Perl CGI or two in a previous job. But I don't > remember things from one project to the next. I don't do it enough to > remember. I hear you. And every language is just similar enough and just different enough for ones intuition to lead one astray. I hack code all day, but switching to a language that I haven't used in awhile is still a challenge. Curt ---------------------------------- Curtis Clifton, PhD Candidate Dept. of Computer Science, Iowa State University http://www.cs.iastate.edu/~cclifton --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lsequeir at fc.ul.pt Sat May 21 12:41:04 2005 From: lsequeir at fc.ul.pt (Luis Sequeira) Date: Sat, 21 May 2005 17:41:04 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] table help In-Reply-To: <64013.23362@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <64013.23362@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: > >>Here's a commented sample. > > >actually now I think of it, one thing I would like is to vary the >columns thus > >Big Topic A&Big Topic B (two columns, with vertical line between) >Sub-topic of A1, sub-topic of A2, sub-topic of B1, sub-topic of B2 >(three vertical lines for 4 columns, and henceforth like that.) > >should I just put two together with no gaps? > >anyway, experimenting now...will no doubt solve it just as a reply comes >in..:-) The tabular environment has commands for doing that sort of thing - \multicolumn for text that spans several columns, \cline for horizontal lines that may span several columns but not the whole width, \vline for vertical lines that appear occasionally but not through the whole height of the table. I suggest you experiment with code similar to the snippet below (I used centered columns all around (c) and several vertical bars in the formatting and avoided the lowercased L (l), which might be confused with the vertical bar. This creates a table that has four columns, but the first line is made of two titles, each of which spans two columns. %%%%%%% begin snippet of code \begin{tabular}{|c|c|c|c|} \hline \multicolumn{2}{|c}{Topic A} & \multicolumn{2}{|c|}{Topic B} \vline\\ \hline Topic A1 & Topic A2 & Topic B1 & Topic B2\\ \hline \end{tabular} %%%%%% end of snippet of code hth Luis Sequeira --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From paolo at hss.caltech.edu Mon May 23 16:10:13 2005 From: paolo at hss.caltech.edu (Paolo Ghirardato) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 22:10:13 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint In-Reply-To: <6A95B0C7-26F8-438D-BDB5-8710454D1D8D@math.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <8A186384-2A6E-4E11-8A78-9DF6F63F0C97@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <112C715E-8653-4038-A46A-46E45A40DD0E@hss.caltech.edu> <6A95B0C7-26F8-438D-BDB5-8710454D1D8D@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Message-ID: <6BB77BF1-D4CA-4762-97F2-F23A9BF14016@hss.caltech.edu> > Under Flashmode's pricing scheme all buyers of a special variant > get free upgrades of that variant whenever there is one available. > Offering upgrades to all, regardless of which variant they have > bought poses a slightly logistical problem. However, any buyer of > a Flashmode variant can write me an email and ask for a copy of > another variant. At the moment there is no risk that I shall drown > in possible requests. > > I shall send you a F-TS copy. By the way you bought a copy of F/ > BBEdit not Alpha. I would also like to discourage anybody to buy > the Alpha variant, since it will no longer be supported. > > I thank Claus for his prompt response to my complaint (Claus is right, of course; I was using FS with BBEdit, not with Alpha). I reiterate my viewpoint as a suggestion, especially in view of Claus's willingness to accomodate people like myself with multiple editor needs: Wouldn't it be better to have a single license for FS, which one can use to obtain any (or all) of the four (or three) variants? paolo --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bkerstetter at mac.com Mon May 23 16:16:13 2005 From: bkerstetter at mac.com (Bob Kerstetter) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 15:16:13 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <7848483E-B7B7-4B2E-A9B2-53D14942178E@mac.com> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <7848483E-B7B7-4B2E-A9B2-53D14942178E@mac.com> Message-ID: <3C28A9DF-9796-429E-B5A7-1ABB68A87B89@mac.com> On May 23, 2005, at 2:27 PM, Tim Brophy wrote: > > On 21 May 2005, at 21:32, Bob Kerstetter wrote: > > >> >> On May 21, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Google Kreme wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>> I am trying to convert a LaTeX file into html, and though I could >>> use the texi2html command from the terminal. However: >>> >>> % texi2html myfile.tex >>> ** empty document >>> % texi2html -l2h myfile.tex >>> ** empty document >>> % >>> >>> >> >> >> try: >> >> htlatex yourlatexdoc "html" >> >> this runs tex4ht, which is part of the i-installer TeX package. >> >> >> Add the info option: >> >> htlatex yourtexdoc "html,info" >> >> to put about 60K worth of options and execution info--sort of like >> a user manual--into the yourlatexdoc.log file. >> >> >> TeX4ht is very configurable and flexible. I don't use the defaults >> because of my employer's specialized requirements, but the >> defaults do a very good job of producing html from LaTeX source. >> TeX4ht also works with TeX and ConTeXt. >> >> --------------------- Info --------------------- >> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ >> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >> List Post: >> >> >> >> > > I hate showing my stupidity yet again! How can I use that command > in the terminal? I get > > [G4:~] tim% htlatex > tcsh: htlatex: Command not found. > [G4:~] tim% > If you've installed a recent version of TeX using i-installer, it should be there. But, maybe the "simple" installation option does not install TeX4ht. Is that correct, Gerben? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Mon May 23 17:15:07 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 17:15:07 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Form Documents In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <00cf0c46b63ff3c3444877056b0f8ecb@msrce.howard.edu> On May 23, 2005, at 1:41 PM, Bob Kerstetter wrote: > Hi, > > For 10 years we have been using Word and VBA to generate form > documents. We enter name, address, etc for one person, then use that > information to generate 24 different documents, each one customized > with the name, address, etc. for the one person. > > Is there some way of doing this with TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt so: > > 1. The users have a Mac-like dialog box where they can tab forward, > backward, etc to enter the information about the person, then press OK > to create the 24 docs. > > 2. The user can do as number 1, but then select from a list the docs > they want to create. > > 3. The user can edit the text of the output PDF with Acrobat or > whatever and the lines still wrap and the pages still break. BTW, the > output is double spaced. You might be able to do this within a PDF document itself with a little Java Script. Check out http://www.math.uakron.edu/~dpstory/acrotex.html for many examples and documents. Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 23 17:19:57 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 23:19:57 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <7848483E-B7B7-4B2E-A9B2-53D14942178E@mac.com> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <7848483E-B7B7-4B2E-A9B2-53D14942178E@mac.com> Message-ID: Am 23.05.2005 um 21:27 schrieb Tim Brophy: > I hate showing my stupidity yet again! How can I use that command in > the terminal? I get > > [G4:~] tim% htlatex > tcsh: htlatex: Command not found. > Can you invoke 'echo $PATH' in Terminal? It should look like /Users/pete/bin:/Users/pete/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin:/usr/bin:/bin:/ usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/sw/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/ bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current and particularly contain /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current. If this is true you can invoke 'which htlatex' too. What is it telling? /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/htlatex? Then do a last thing: ls -lL /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current | grep latex What is this showing? -- Greetings Pete There's no place like ~ (UNIX Guru) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From timbrophy at mac.com Mon May 23 17:28:29 2005 From: timbrophy at mac.com (Tim Brophy) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 22:28:29 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <7848483E-B7B7-4B2E-A9B2-53D14942178E@mac.com> Message-ID: <3D96BA4D-2967-4A44-8A6D-F3D87BACB4A0@mac.com> On 23 May 2005, at 22:19, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 23.05.2005 um 21:27 schrieb Tim Brophy: > > >> I hate showing my stupidity yet again! How can I use that command >> in the terminal? I get >> >> [G4:~] tim% htlatex >> tcsh: htlatex: Command not found. >> >> > > Can you invoke 'echo $PATH' in Terminal? It should look like > > /Users/pete/bin:/Users/pete/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin:/usr/bin:/ > bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/local/bin:/sw/bin:/usr/ > local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current > > and particularly contain /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin- > current. If this is true you can invoke 'which htlatex' too. What > is it telling? /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/ > htlatex? Then do a last thing: > > ls -lL /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current | grep latex > > What is this showing? > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > There's no place like ~ > (UNIX Guru) > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > No, It shoes [G4:~] tim% echo $PATH /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin [G4:~] tim% Tim brophy --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Mon May 23 17:29:52 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 23:29:52 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Form Documents In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <99EAD364-AB02-4BD0-8B87-EC082EFF7304@xs4all.nl> On 23 May 2005, at 19:41, Bob Kerstetter wrote: > For 10 years we have been using Word and VBA to generate form > documents. We enter name, address, etc for one person, then use > that information to generate 24 different documents, each one > customized with the name, address, etc. for the one person. > > Is there some way of doing this with TeX, LaTeX, ConTeXt so: > > 1. The users have a Mac-like dialog box where they can tab forward, > backward, etc to enter the information about the person, then press > OK to create the 24 docs. > > 2. The user can do as number 1, but then select from a list the > docs they want to create. There are several options for this. I think the easiest is to use a web-form with a web-server. The web-server will do most of the processing. The processing can be done in php or a cgi script (perl, python or even a compiled language). Perl, PHP or Python probably give you the best compatibility with future systems). The nice thing is that you'll be independent from the exact system used on the desktop. > 3. The user can edit the text of the output PDF with Acrobat or > whatever and the lines still wrap and the pages still break. BTW, > the output is double spaced. I don't quite get this. Are you saying the generated pdf should basically act like a word document, but be based in pdf? I'm not sure this is possible to the level you may want or need. My ? 0.02, Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Mon May 23 17:42:15 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 23:42:15 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <3D96BA4D-2967-4A44-8A6D-F3D87BACB4A0@mac.com> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <7848483E-B7B7-4B2E-A9B2-53D14942178E@mac.com> <3D96BA4D-2967-4A44-8A6D-F3D87BACB4A0@mac.com> Message-ID: <6890571F-D1DA-47FA-B694-411D9124B515@mac.com> Le 23 mai 05 ? 23:28, Tim Brophy a ?crit : > [G4:~] tim% echo $PATH > /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin Then TeX hasn't been installed correctly. You should have, at least: $ echo $PATH /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/ powerpc-apple-darwin-current /usr/local/teTeX/ is where TeX lives, and /usr/local/ is where GhostScript (among other stuff) lives. Did you install all required i-Packages using i-Installer, as described at ? TeXShop is essentially a front-end, and it requires these other software to run. Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From timbrophy at mac.com Mon May 23 17:52:06 2005 From: timbrophy at mac.com (Tim Brophy) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 22:52:06 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <6890571F-D1DA-47FA-B694-411D9124B515@mac.com> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <7848483E-B7B7-4B2E-A9B2-53D14942178E@mac.com> <3D96BA4D-2967-4A44-8A6D-F3D87BACB4A0@mac.com> <6890571F-D1DA-47FA-B694-411D9124B515@mac.com> Message-ID: <3F7783CD-D140-4F1B-9B95-3D4243368A55@mac.com> On 23 May 2005, at 22:42, Bruno Voisin wrote: > > Le 23 mai 05 ? 23:28, Tim Brophy a ?crit : > > >> [G4:~] tim% echo $PATH >> /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin >> > > Then TeX hasn't been installed correctly. You should have, at least: > > $ echo $PATH > /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/ > powerpc-apple-darwin-current > > /usr/local/teTeX/ is where TeX lives, and /usr/local/ is where > GhostScript (among other stuff) lives. > > Did you install all required i-Packages using i-Installer, as > described at installing.html>? TeXShop is essentially a front-end, and it > requires these other software to run. > > Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > Thanks for the advice. I thought I had installed it properly and everything I have needed up to now, for the last few years, has worked like a dream. I will install again. Tim Brophy--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Mon May 23 18:57:48 2005 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 00:57:48 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Flashmode-TS 2.1 - a complaint In-Reply-To: <6BB77BF1-D4CA-4762-97F2-F23A9BF14016@hss.caltech.edu> References: <8A186384-2A6E-4E11-8A78-9DF6F63F0C97@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <112C715E-8653-4038-A46A-46E45A40DD0E@hss.caltech.edu> <6A95B0C7-26F8-438D-BDB5-8710454D1D8D@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <6BB77BF1-D4CA-4762-97F2-F23A9BF14016@hss.caltech.edu> Message-ID: <3B3810AA-B1D8-45EC-8149-B3741D347C32@math.uni-heidelberg.de> I shall bundle the three Flashmode variants to one package in the next days. Current users of any variant will get an upgrade. Claus On May 23, 2005, at 22:10, Paolo Ghirardato wrote: >> Under Flashmode's pricing scheme all buyers of a special variant >> get free upgrades of that variant whenever there is one available. >> Offering upgrades to all, regardless of which variant they have >> bought poses a slightly logistical problem. However, any buyer of >> a Flashmode variant can write me an email and ask for a copy of >> another variant. At the moment there is no risk that I shall drown >> in possible requests. >> >> I shall send you a F-TS copy. By the way you bought a copy of F/ >> BBEdit not Alpha. I would also like to discourage anybody to buy >> the Alpha variant, since it will no longer be supported. >> >> >> > > I thank Claus for his prompt response to my complaint (Claus is > right, of course; I was using FS with BBEdit, not with Alpha). > > I reiterate my viewpoint as a suggestion, especially in view of > Claus's willingness to accomodate people like myself with multiple > editor needs: Wouldn't it be better to have a single license for > FS, which one can use to obtain any (or all) of the four (or three) > variants? > paolo > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From timbrophy at mac.com Mon May 23 19:10:06 2005 From: timbrophy at mac.com (Tim Brophy) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 00:10:06 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <3F7783CD-D140-4F1B-9B95-3D4243368A55@mac.com> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <7848483E-B7B7-4B2E-A9B2-53D14942178E@mac.com> <3D96BA4D-2967-4A44-8A6D-F3D87BACB4A0@mac.com> <6890571F-D1DA-47FA-B694-411D9124B515@mac.com> <3F7783CD-D140-4F1B-9B95-3D4243368A55@mac.com> Message-ID: On 23 May 2005, at 22:52, Tim Brophy wrote: > > On 23 May 2005, at 22:42, Bruno Voisin wrote: > > >> >> Le 23 mai 05 ? 23:28, Tim Brophy a ?crit : >> >> >> >>> [G4:~] tim% echo $PATH >>> /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin >>> >>> >> >> Then TeX hasn't been installed correctly. You should have, at least: >> >> $ echo $PATH >> /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/ >> powerpc-apple-darwin-current >> >> /usr/local/teTeX/ is where TeX lives, and /usr/local/ is where >> GhostScript (among other stuff) lives. >> >> Did you install all required i-Packages using i-Installer, as >> described at > installing.html>? TeXShop is essentially a front-end, and it >> requires these other software to run. >> >> Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- >> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ >> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >> List Post: >> >> >> >> > > > Thanks for the advice. I thought I had installed it properly and > everything I have needed up to now, for the last few years, has > worked like a dream. I will install again. > > Tim Brophy--------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > Once again I extend my eternal gratitude to this list. There cannot be a more kind and helpful group in the world. After Bruno's help everything is perfect. What I really love about this group is the lack of sarcasm when help is needed. You are a great group. Keep it up! Tim Brophy--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Mon May 23 19:12:55 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 01:12:55 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <3F7783CD-D140-4F1B-9B95-3D4243368A55@mac.com> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <7848483E-B7B7-4B2E-A9B2-53D14942178E@mac.com> <3D96BA4D-2967-4A44-8A6D-F3D87BACB4A0@mac.com> <6890571F-D1DA-47FA-B694-411D9124B515@mac.com> <3F7783CD-D140-4F1B-9B95-3D4243368A55@mac.com> Message-ID: Le 23 mai 05 ? 23:52, Tim Brophy a ?crit : > Thanks for the advice. I thought I had installed it properly and > everything I have needed up to now, for the last few years, has > worked like a dream. I will install again. A first possibility is that you have installed Tiger in Archive & Install mode, in which case the invisible directories such as /usr/ local/ have been moved along with the former OS to /Previous Systems/ Previous System 1/. Another possibility is that TeX itself is OK, but the two files /etc/ csh.login (for tcsh) and /etc/profile (for bash) have got erased or damaged. /etc/profile, for example, should contain, in a healthy TeX setup, additions such as those: ## setloginpath added /usr/local/bin start at Mon May 9 10:53:19 CEST 2005 ## Do not remove the previous line if [ `whoami` != "root" ] then PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/bin" export PATH fi ## Do not remove the next line ## setloginpath added /usr/local/bin end at Mon May 9 10:53:19 CEST 2005 ## TeX modifications start at Thu May 19 11:06:43 CEST 2005 ## Do not remove the previous line if [ `whoami` != "root" ] then PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current" export PATH fi ## Do not remove the next line ## TeX modifications end at Thu May 19 11:06:43 CEST 2005 If they don't, but TeX is still there inside /usr/local/teTeX, then you simply have to reinstall GhostScript and run the Configure stage alone of the TeX i-Package (making sure CLI Activation -- that is addition of the TeX directories to the default path -- is checked). HTH, Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Mon May 23 19:15:57 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 19:15:57 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <7848483E-B7B7-4B2E-A9B2-53D14942178E@mac.com> <3D96BA4D-2967-4A44-8A6D-F3D87BACB4A0@mac.com> <6890571F-D1DA-47FA-B694-411D9124B515@mac.com> <3F7783CD-D140-4F1B-9B95-3D4243368A55@mac.com> Message-ID: <0c73cf3f64db98e1a314f0cb37e98c2c@msrce.howard.edu> On May 23, 2005, at 7:10 PM, Tim Brophy wrote: > Once again I extend my eternal gratitude to this list. There cannot be > a more kind and helpful group in the world. After Bruno's help > everything is perfect. > > What I really love about this group is the lack of sarcasm when help > is needed. You are a great group. Keep it up! Yeah, I don't remember ever seeing any flames thus far. Some of the lists I belong to get quite dirty and chase people away... Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Tue May 24 02:07:58 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 08:07:58 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <3C28A9DF-9796-429E-B5A7-1ABB68A87B89@mac.com> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <7848483E-B7B7-4B2E-A9B2-53D14942178E@mac.com> <3C28A9DF-9796-429E-B5A7-1ABB68A87B89@mac.com> Message-ID: <009d0dc58a6789268fa6b5b095aa122e@rna.nl> On May 23, 2005, at 22:16, Bob Kerstetter wrote: > > On May 23, 2005, at 2:27 PM, Tim Brophy wrote: > >> >> On 21 May 2005, at 21:32, Bob Kerstetter wrote: >> >> >>> >>> On May 21, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Google Kreme wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I am trying to convert a LaTeX file into html, and though I could >>>> use the texi2html command from the terminal. However: >>>> >>>> % texi2html myfile.tex >>>> ** empty document >>>> % texi2html -l2h myfile.tex >>>> ** empty document >>>> % >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> try: >>> >>> htlatex yourlatexdoc "html" >>> >>> this runs tex4ht, which is part of the i-installer TeX package. >>> >>> >>> Add the info option: >>> >>> htlatex yourtexdoc "html,info" >>> >>> to put about 60K worth of options and execution info--sort of like a >>> user manual--into the yourlatexdoc.log file. >>> >>> >>> TeX4ht is very configurable and flexible. I don't use the defaults >>> because of my employer's specialized requirements, but the defaults >>> do a very good job of producing html from LaTeX source. TeX4ht also >>> works with TeX and ConTeXt. >>> >>> --------------------- Info --------------------- >>> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >>> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ >>> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >>> List Post: >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> I hate showing my stupidity yet again! How can I use that command in >> the terminal? I get >> >> [G4:~] tim% htlatex >> tcsh: htlatex: Command not found. >> [G4:~] tim% >> > > If you've installed a recent version of TeX using i-installer, it > should be there. But, maybe the "simple" installation option does not > install TeX4ht. Is that correct, Gerben? htlatex is always installed, it is part of the basic binaries set. G --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From piet at cs.uu.nl Tue May 24 05:00:38 2005 From: piet at cs.uu.nl (Piet van Oostrum) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:00:38 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Form Documents In-Reply-To: <46d1a70341a583afac6e7ed45f83a0cf@mac.com> (Curtis Clifton's message of "Mon, 23 May 2005 13:33:22 -0500") References: <46d1a70341a583afac6e7ed45f83a0cf@mac.com> Message-ID: >>>>> Curtis Clifton (CC) wrote: >>> 3. The user can edit the text of the output PDF with Acrobat or whatever >>> and the lines still wrap and the pages still break. BTW, the output is >>> double spaced. Acrobat can't do cahnges in a document which rewrap AFAIK. >CC> I'm not sure about this. To edit the generated documents it would be >CC> technically easier (i.e., easier for the implementer) to have the script >CC> generate TeX source which the user would edit. This might be reasonable, >CC> especially if the scripts typeset the documents so TeXShop could be >CC> launched with a source and a preview window open. I hope I don't start a >CC> flame war---I've already been in mine for the month---but if WYSIWYG >CC> editing is really a requirement, then perhaps a non-TeX solution is >CC> required. I think LyX will be easier for the kind of users you have in mind. -- Piet van Oostrum URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP] Private email: piet at vanoostrum.org --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 24 06:46:22 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 12:46:22 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Pdftex versus TeX&Ghostscript In-Reply-To: <7edc63232f5d67a5125e61fb0810d540@unibas.ch> References: <6FCFA87E-116A-4920-BBCC-2606834157E9@mac.com> <420FE61F-E4C3-47FC-9350-1B0515B60BFA@mac.com> <7edc63232f5d67a5125e61fb0810d540@unibas.ch> Message-ID: <0F412C5E-E4DE-4BA3-B389-05C0BF945B1B@mac.com> Le 24 mai 05 ? 08:38, Hanspeter Kraft a ?crit : > Is there a plan to correct this in the next version of TeX? It is > somewhat awkward that one has to change the file everytime when I'm > switching from pdftex to TeX&Ghostscript or back. Hi, No I don't think there are plans to change this. The new behaviour of magnification and true units in pdfTeX is something not specific to TeX on the Mac, but decided at the level of the core developers of TeX for all platforms. I don't remember exactly all the pros and cons of the discussion that took place last December on this list, but IIRC the involved developer, Hartmut Henkel, seemed to have rather strong feelings about the issue, arguing that the new behaviour is indeed the correct one, that should always have been. As for avoiding to change the input file, there's a specific LaTeX package ifpdf.sty (at /Library/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/ oberdiek/ifpdf.sty), which can also be used in plain TeX. It defines a test \ifpdf allowing you to write, for example: \input ifpdf.sty and then: \magnification=\magstep3 \ifpdf \input pdftexconfig \fi or alternatively, for A4 paper, in case that is your default: \mag=\magstep3 \hsize=210truemm \advance\hsize by-2truein \vsize=297truemm \advance\vsize by-2.1truein \ifpdf \input pdftexconfig \fi Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ghiog at netconnect.com.au Tue May 24 10:07:47 2005 From: ghiog at netconnect.com.au (George Ghio) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 00:07:47 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Double spacing in Memoir Message-ID: <3506437E-CC5D-11D9-81CC-000A95D9412C@netconnect.com.au> Hi I've been looking and can not find the method of getting double spacing in my documents using Memoir. I assume this is possible. I may be wrong. Any suggestions gratefully received. George L Ghio --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From arnokruse at macnews.de Tue May 24 10:24:04 2005 From: arnokruse at macnews.de (Arno Kruse) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 16:24:04 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <7848483E-B7B7-4B2E-A9B2-53D14942178E@mac.com> <3D96BA4D-2967-4A44-8A6D-F3D87BACB4A0@mac.com> <6890571F-D1DA-47FA-B694-411D9124B515@mac.com> <3F7783CD-D140-4F1B-9B95-3D4243368A55@mac.com> Message-ID: <1dddd43bbf5f3bc50cb7ef32df4cd62a@macnews.de> Am 24.05.2005 um 01:10 schrieb Tim Brophy: > Once again I extend my eternal gratitude to this list. There cannot be > a more kind and helpful group in the world. After Bruno's help > everything is perfect. > > What I really love about this group is the lack of sarcasm when help > is needed. You are a great group. Keep it up! I do agree! But write: "Emacs is a laughable editor, compared to Vim" or "Vim is a laughable editor, compared to Emacs", and you will wonder? Arno --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Tue May 24 10:31:27 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 16:31:27 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] texti2html In-Reply-To: <1dddd43bbf5f3bc50cb7ef32df4cd62a@macnews.de> References: <21DF0E7B-FAE3-4722-BADE-EF69E8BA0BF3@gmail.com> <7848483E-B7B7-4B2E-A9B2-53D14942178E@mac.com> <3D96BA4D-2967-4A44-8A6D-F3D87BACB4A0@mac.com> <6890571F-D1DA-47FA-B694-411D9124B515@mac.com> <3F7783CD-D140-4F1B-9B95-3D4243368A55@mac.com> <1dddd43bbf5f3bc50cb7ef32df4cd62a@macnews.de> Message-ID: <078DBB49-9BBD-46F1-8BA1-C31130D5C300@xs4all.nl> On 24 May 2005, at 16:24, Arno Kruse wrote: > Am 24.05.2005 um 01:10 schrieb Tim Brophy: > >> What I really love about this group is the lack of sarcasm when >> help is needed. You are a great group. Keep it up! > > I do agree! I think the regulars here are silently proud of the atmosphere here. I know I like it. > But write: > "Emacs is a laughable editor, compared to Vim" or > "Vim is a laughable editor, compared to Emacs", > > and you will wonder? You can pry my copy BBEdit or TextWrangler from my cold dead fingers ;-) But to be honest, I don't think even that old trolling technique will work here. Maarten--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Tue May 24 10:33:30 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 16:33:30 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Double spacing in Memoir In-Reply-To: <3506437E-CC5D-11D9-81CC-000A95D9412C@netconnect.com.au> References: <3506437E-CC5D-11D9-81CC-000A95D9412C@netconnect.com.au> Message-ID: On 24 May 2005, at 16:07, George Ghio wrote: > I've been looking and can not find the method of getting double > spacing in my documents using Memoir. > > I assume this is possible. I may be wrong. Any suggestions > gratefully received. It is, it even says so in the introduction of the (truly) fabulous manual. This \linespread{1.6}\selectfont should give you something to work with, although you may need to play with the exact number (I think it is available in standard LaTeX, not specifically Memoir). Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 24 10:35:32 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 16:35:32 +0200 Subject: OT: Fetch (was Re: [OS X TeX] Alpha taking over some file extensions) In-Reply-To: <1038b69984466112fb13ea5c110fa6d5@maths.mq.edu.au> References: <33f97e914c8caa140abd0ae7234b75a9@his.com> <1038b69984466112fb13ea5c110fa6d5@maths.mq.edu.au> Message-ID: <7D469F95-3CC3-4730-8C46-535BF7E82466@mac.com> Le 8 mai 05 ? 05:13, Daniel A. Steffen a ?crit : > I have now removed the .1 .3 and .n extensions, it's not terribly > useful for them to be bound to AlphaX, and they are indeed common > with version number endings and such > > arguably, the Fetch problem is both a bug in Tiger as well as a > issue with Fetch, IMO it really should have a .app extension... > (certainly adding one yourself won't hurt anything and will make > this problem go away) Just saw that Fetch has been updated to version 5: it supports now not only FTP but also SFTP, it is now a proper .app bundle, and it has no longer a number in its name. Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From zaccone at bucknell.edu Tue May 24 15:36:50 2005 From: zaccone at bucknell.edu (Rick Zaccone) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 15:36:50 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Double spacing in Memoir In-Reply-To: <3506437E-CC5D-11D9-81CC-000A95D9412C@netconnect.com.au> References: <3506437E-CC5D-11D9-81CC-000A95D9412C@netconnect.com.au> Message-ID: <17043.33362.835924.181032@castor.eg.bucknell.edu> >Hi > >I've been looking and can not find the method of getting double >spacing in my documents using Memoir. > >I assume this is possible. I may be wrong. Any suggestions gratefully >received. > >George L Ghio The Memoir class does not support this directly. The otherwise excellent manual is not clear about this. Use the setspace package to do it. Rick --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From degrez at vki.ac.be Tue May 24 15:49:51 2005 From: degrez at vki.ac.be (=?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Degrez?=) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 21:49:51 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Double spacing in Memoir In-Reply-To: <17043.33362.835924.181032@castor.eg.bucknell.edu> References: <3506437E-CC5D-11D9-81CC-000A95D9412C@netconnect.com.au> <17043.33362.835924.181032@castor.eg.bucknell.edu> Message-ID: > >Hi >> >>I've been looking and can not find the method of getting double >>spacing in my documents using Memoir. >> >>I assume this is possible. I may be wrong. Any suggestions gratefully >>received. >> >>George L Ghio > >The Memoir class does not support this directly. The otherwise >excellent manual is not clear about this. Use the setspace package to >do it. Or simply \renewcommand{\baselinestretch}{2.0} There's also a doublespace package (see LaTeX Companion). G?rard > >Rick >--------------------- Info --------------------- >Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ >TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >List Post: --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From zaccone at bucknell.edu Tue May 24 16:04:38 2005 From: zaccone at bucknell.edu (Rick Zaccone) Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 16:04:38 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Double spacing in Memoir In-Reply-To: References: <3506437E-CC5D-11D9-81CC-000A95D9412C@netconnect.com.au> <17043.33362.835924.181032@castor.eg.bucknell.edu> Message-ID: <17043.35030.463767.809073@castor.eg.bucknell.edu> >>>Hi >>> >>>I've been looking and can not find the method of getting double >>>spacing in my documents using Memoir. >>> >>>I assume this is possible. I may be wrong. Any suggestions >>>gratefully received. >>> >>>George L Ghio >> >>The Memoir class does not support this directly. The otherwise >>excellent manual is not clear about this. Use the setspace package >>to do it. > >Or simply >\renewcommand{\baselinestretch}{2.0} > >There's also a doublespace package (see LaTeX Companion). > >G?rard The doublespace package is mentioned in the first edition of The LaTeX Companion, but it is dropped in the second edition because it is obsolete. The setspace package is a better choice. For example, (this is from the .sty file): - Double spacing is turned off within footnotes and floats (figures and tables). - Proper double spacing happens below tabular environments and in other places where LaTeX uses a strut. - Slightly more space is inserted before footnotes. Rick --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Tue May 24 18:47:50 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 00:47:50 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Line thickness in TeXShop preview (and Preview.app) on Tiger In-Reply-To: <980F6A7B-FE65-4E4A-9F98-BE87E40F0119@mac.com> References: <32ee85c80e41dcaed1295eb558e44160@atlis.com> <9edff5693fbc095fbf8bbf359bb0dc0b@atlis.com> <00B64FB9-A483-4747-874E-9AC028775F5A@mac.com> <314c5e401fe055a959ff956e58cb3162@tu-bs.de> <980F6A7B-FE65-4E4A-9F98-BE87E40F0119@mac.com> Message-ID: <2B84E776-FDD2-4B51-8059-628581A47957@mac.com> On 20 mai 05, at 14:00, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 20 mai 05 ? 09:22, Jan Hegewald a ?crit : > >> remember: You can always disable some languages for a specific >> application via Finders info panel. So you can disable French for >> AR. For this to do one needs write permission for the application. > > That's what I had tried first, having done it for other > applications on several occasions already. But for Adobe Reader > that doesn't seem feasible: in the Info window for the application, > the French language is checked but dimmed, so that the setting > cannot be changed. Just realizing this is not specific to Adobe Reader, but to Tiger: it seems that, in Tiger, the default language (the one on top of the list in System Prefs/International/Language) is dimmed in the Finder's Get Info box for all applications, and can't be unchecked. Just hope there's a pref or checkbox somewhere, that I haven't seen thus far and that can be used to alter this behaviour: there are apps whose localization is no good, and that I would prefer to run in English, the rest of the system being in French; and I would prefer a solution not involving modifying app bundles (by removing resources inside them). An alternative solution is, of course, to use English for all apps by putting English on top of the list in International/Language. I wouldn't mind, weren't it for some apps that seem to require being launched in French to run properly on my setup (why?). For examples, when launched in English, Pages complains about a missing template. [OT'er-than-the-rest rant: I'm getting really fed up by all the bugs everywhere in Pages. How could Apple release such crappy software, clearly not ready for prime time? I just spent half an hour fighting with tabs, just to realize these simply don't work: you can create tabs in the ruler, and then press the tab key on your keyboard, this key will actually insert only spaces (one each time it's pressed), not navigate from one tab to the next. Similarly Copy and Paste Styles in second-level lists just doesn't work: it's always the style for first-level lists that will be pasted, even though you took care to copy beforehand the style from a second-level list item. And that's just two bugs among many! You decide to go WYSIWYG for once, because you've got to produce a document on very tight schedule and the graphical quality of the result is unimportant, only the content is important, and you end up wasting time on bugs that could have been spent getting a nicer result with TeX -- or getting a couple more hours of sleep.] Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 25 04:48:31 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 10:48:31 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Line thickness in TeXShop preview (and Preview.app) on Tiger In-Reply-To: <2B84E776-FDD2-4B51-8059-628581A47957@mac.com> References: <32ee85c80e41dcaed1295eb558e44160@atlis.com> <9edff5693fbc095fbf8bbf359bb0dc0b@atlis.com> <00B64FB9-A483-4747-874E-9AC028775F5A@mac.com> <314c5e401fe055a959ff956e58cb3162@tu-bs.de> <980F6A7B-FE65-4E4A-9F98-BE87E40F0119@mac.com> <2B84E776-FDD2-4B51-8059-628581A47957@mac.com> Message-ID: On 25 mai 05, at 00:47, Bruno Voisin wrote: > I just spent half an hour fighting with tabs, just to realize these > simply don't work: you can create tabs in the ruler, and then press > the tab key on your keyboard, this key will actually insert only > spaces (one each time it's pressed), not navigate from one tab to > the next. It was, of course, a silly error I had made: tabs aren't effective in justified text. Change to left-aligned, and the tabs work as they should. Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 25 10:01:54 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:01:54 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop? Message-ID: Hello, I was just asked by a colleague -- TeXShop convert from a few months ago -- whether there is in TeXShop a functionality for marking changes in a document written collaboratively by several persons, ? la Word, namely by (assuming I understood correctly, given I don't use Word myself for writing): - Putting in different colors pieces of text written or modified by different persons. - Putting delete bars through deleted text. I imagine this is not a job for a front-end like TeXShop, and that the functionality has instead to be looked for in a dedicated LaTeX package. I mentioned the changebar package, but it doesn't do all the things my colleague is willing to do. Has anybody here experience with a more sophisticated solution? (Versioning systems like CVS or subversion aside, which would be considered overkill and too technical for the problem at hand -- and for me as well.) Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 25 10:17:52 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:17:52 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Line thickness in TeXShop preview (and Preview.app) on Tiger In-Reply-To: <2B84E776-FDD2-4B51-8059-628581A47957@mac.com> References: <32ee85c80e41dcaed1295eb558e44160@atlis.com> <9edff5693fbc095fbf8bbf359bb0dc0b@atlis.com> <00B64FB9-A483-4747-874E-9AC028775F5A@mac.com> <314c5e401fe055a959ff956e58cb3162@tu-bs.de> <980F6A7B-FE65-4E4A-9F98-BE87E40F0119@mac.com> <2B84E776-FDD2-4B51-8059-628581A47957@mac.com> Message-ID: Le 25 mai 05 ? 00:47, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > [OT'er-than-the-rest rant: I'm getting really fed up by all the > bugs everywhere in Pages. [...] Similarly Copy and Paste Styles in > second-level lists just doesn't work: it's always the style for > first-level lists that will be pasted, even though you took care to > copy beforehand the style from a second-level list item. What happens actually is that, when copying the style of a list item of a certain level, the style of all list levels up to and including this level is copied. When you paste this style in another list, it is indeed pasted correctly, but the list level is reset to 1. Increasing then the level as required, you get the desired result. Imagine for example you copy the style of a list item of level 3 (item of a sub-sub-list), and paste it in another item. This level of this latter item will be reset to 1, and you'll have to reset it manually to 3 to get the expected layout. On a logical basis that makes sense, but it's a bit disconcerting at first. Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Wed May 25 10:28:29 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:28:29 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 25.05.2005 um 16:01 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > Has anybody here experience with a more sophisticated solution? Latexdiff can compare two files and create a reasonable output as a third file ... an entry to automate such things. Since I think there are only some macros in memoir, the vertbars, and of course the changebar packages, and the latter ones are pretty old and kind of unsupported and not (yet) supporting pdfTeX, it shouldn't be that difficult to teach TeXShop hilighting of the marked-up text by using background colour, a stipple, or such means. Could become an impressive feature! WinEDT has the option to keep via RCS different versions of a LaTeX source. Once you like, it can compare them and create via changebar a comparison! -- Geetings Pete --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Wed May 25 10:30:35 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:30:35 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5E67E8B8-95A5-42F2-98D0-90914490A8B6@xs4all.nl> On 25 May 2005, at 16:01, Bruno Voisin wrote: > I was just asked by a colleague -- TeXShop convert from a few > months ago -- whether there is in TeXShop a functionality for > marking changes in a document written collaboratively by several > persons, ? la Word, namely by (assuming I understood correctly, > given I don't use Word myself for writing): > > - Putting in different colors pieces of text written or modified by > different persons. > - Putting delete bars through deleted text. > > I imagine this is not a job for a front-end like TeXShop, and that > the functionality has instead to be looked for in a dedicated LaTeX > package. Not in TeXShop itself, but there are scripts out there that will help. I've included some helpful links at the bottom of this mail. The 'changebars' link mentions latexdiff, which takes two versions of the same document, and marks the differences in a few colours (in old, in new, in both). I think this is as sophisticated as it gets. It is a perl script though, and calling probably requires a trip to the terminal. Accepting or rejecting changes (i.e. merging revisions) is probably easiest using BBEdit or TextWrangler or FileMerge (part of the developer tools. This doesn't use formatted output though, and a colour print of the latexdiff output used with a pencil is probably the easiest way to sift through a lot of changes. > I mentioned the changebar package, but it doesn't do all the things > my colleague is willing to do. Looking back to the above: How many versions do you need to merge: two is readily available, any more will require manual intervention probably with the comments package. Striking out deleted text is a diff with an older version with marking deleted text as strike out and added text in a colour (presumably). It may require some manual labour though. It may actually be easier to compare just two at a time. The ulem package provides a \sout{} command to strike out parts of a text. > Has anybody here experience with a more sophisticated solution? > (Versioning systems like CVS or subversion aside, which would be > considered overkill and too technical for the problem at hand -- > and for me as well.) I have written on projects under version control, both a collaborative article and my thesis (the latter obviously alone). I can wholeheartedly recommend to use it for larger projects, and if you write something like a thesis without it, I think you must be nuts (or you may go nuts if a file goes *poof*). Especially on a university the infrastructure is most likely in place, and I think you'll find a system administrator more than willing to help you setting it up (I did it myself, the O'Reilly website contains enough free material to get you started, after that you can use CVL or BBEdit to manage normal day-to-day routines) Just my ?0.02 Maarten Links: http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=changebars http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=conditional http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=RCS http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=underline --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Wed May 25 10:36:33 2005 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:36:33 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6528E122-40C8-46B9-820B-19DABB82C1AB@math.uni-heidelberg.de> The \marginpar command, like \marginpar{Bruno}, in conjunction with an if then construction to switch it on and off might be what you want. Claus On May 25, 2005, at 16:01, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Hello, > > I was just asked by a colleague -- TeXShop convert from a few > months ago -- whether there is in TeXShop a functionality for > marking changes in a document written collaboratively by several > persons, ? la Word, namely by (assuming I understood correctly, > given I don't use Word myself for writing): > > - Putting in different colors pieces of text written or modified by > different persons. > > - Putting delete bars through deleted text. > > I imagine this is not a job for a front-end like TeXShop, and that > the functionality has instead to be looked for in a dedicated LaTeX > package. I mentioned the changebar package, but it doesn't do all > the things my colleague is willing to do. > > Has anybody here experience with a more sophisticated solution? > (Versioning systems like CVS or subversion aside, which would be > considered overkill and too technical for the problem at hand -- > and for me as well.) > > Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Wed May 25 10:52:23 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:52:23 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop? In-Reply-To: <5E67E8B8-95A5-42F2-98D0-90914490A8B6@xs4all.nl> References: <5E67E8B8-95A5-42F2-98D0-90914490A8B6@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <7E55867E-8269-4EBC-A0A0-BB768715ABEB@mac.com> Peter, Maarten, Claus: Many thanks. I have forwarded your answers to my colleague. The links to the TeX FAQ are especially nice; I really need to learn how to formulate questions efficiently there. Bruno --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Wed May 25 11:09:45 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:09:45 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] a4 unused Message-ID: running TeXShop on 10.3, I notice that I am always told that LaTeX Warning: Unused global option(s): [a4]. the resulting pdf seems to be US letter. er...can I persuade it to use a4? the opening of the document I'm currently using is \documentclass[a4, 10 pt]{report} \usepackage {times} \usepackage{array, times, fancyhdr} \pagestyle{fancy} \lhead{left heading} \rhead{Dr Jason Davies} % \lfoot{{\small\textit{Jason Davies \today}}} \usepackage{hyperref} \setcounter {secnumdepth}{0} \begin{document} (looks like it needs some pruning, but the point remains...) TIA --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From pastor at fusl.ac.be Wed May 25 11:14:50 2005 From: pastor at fusl.ac.be (Franck Pastor) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 17:14:50 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] a4 unused In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 25-mai-05, ? 17:09, Jason Davies a ?crit : > running TeXShop on 10.3, I notice that I am always told that LaTeX > Warning: Unused global option(s): > [a4]. The right option is "a4paper" ;-) Regards, F. Pastor --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk Wed May 25 11:17:59 2005 From: ucgajpd at ucl.ac.uk (Jason Davies) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 16:17:59 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] a4 unused In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >The right option is "a4paper" ;-) oops. thanks... --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gall at spookyhill.net Wed May 25 11:16:09 2005 From: gall at spookyhill.net (Norm Gall) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 09:16:09 -0600 Subject: [OS X TeX] a4 unused In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <87AB72C7-B901-4DAD-AF09-9CD49D61DE8C@spookyhill.net> On 25-May-05, at 09:09 hrs, Jason Davies wrote: > running TeXShop on 10.3, I notice that I am always told that LaTeX > Warning: Unused global option(s): > [a4]. > > > the resulting pdf seems to be US letter. > > er...can I persuade it to use a4? the opening of the document > I'm currently using is > > > \documentclass[a4, 10 pt]{report} Try \documentclass[a4paper,10pt]{report} ng -- There's something the technicians need to learn from the artists. If it isn't aesthetically pleasing, it's probably wrong. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lists at lee-phillips.org Wed May 25 13:03:19 2005 From: lists at lee-phillips.org (Lee Phillips) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:03:19 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Reply to Bruno (hard wrapping) In-Reply-To: References: <54413.13111@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: <20050525170319.GA22682@bad-bart.lcp.nrl.navy.mil> > I bought an app called SmartWrap a while ago that builds this > functionality into all text windows. It seems silly to pay $20 to > augment a free program, but it's one solution. Wrapping and re-wrapping > is a nuisance, but it's helpful if you share the editing with Linux > users, who usually hate super-long lines. If you mean wrapping on command after editing rather than hard-wrapping as you type, you certainly don't need to buy anything to get this. You can install TextExtras , which is a free Cocoa inputmanager that adds all sorts of goodies that you can use in any Cocoa program (even in text-entry form boxes in Safari). One of the things you can do is pipe your text (all or a selection) through any shell command, so you can pipe your document through the "fold" command to wrap it. You can write scripts that act on your text and have them listed in a special scripts menu with keyboard shortcuts associated. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Wed May 25 14:15:02 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 20:15:02 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Functionality for collaborative work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: For a frontend to support this, it would need an extended document/ file structure (e.g. wrapper) which would have to keep track of changes instead of writing just a situation. Som sort of support for compiling that into output a la Word with visible document history would then be possible in principle but it would also need some TeX macro support. Looks like a nice project for J?r?me and iTeXMac G On 25 May 2005, at 16:01, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Hello, > > I was just asked by a colleague -- TeXShop convert from a few > months ago -- whether there is in TeXShop a functionality for > marking changes in a document written collaboratively by several > persons, ? la Word, namely by (assuming I understood correctly, > given I don't use Word myself for writing): > > - Putting in different colors pieces of text written or modified by > different persons. > > - Putting delete bars through deleted text. > > I imagine this is not a job for a front-end like TeXShop, and that > the functionality has instead to be looked for in a dedicated LaTeX > package. I mentioned the changebar package, but it doesn't do all > the things my colleague is willing to do. > > Has anybody here experience with a more sophisticated solution? > (Versioning systems like CVS or subversion aside, which would be > considered overkill and too technical for the problem at hand -- > and for me as well.) > > Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From wadams at atlis.com Wed May 25 14:32:27 2005 From: wadams at atlis.com (William F. Adams) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 14:32:27 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Functionality for collaborative work In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9109e3a550f44cae59ffc2fd62ade2a5@atlis.com> Well, I'm given to understand LyX does have support for changebars and revision tracking in the developer code and that some users have managed to compile versions w/ that feature enabled for personal use... William -- William Adams, publishing specialist voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708 www.atlis.com --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From markoilcan at yahoo.com Wed May 25 16:44:22 2005 From: markoilcan at yahoo.com (mark oilcan) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 13:44:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] Functionality for collaborative work In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050525204422.33631.qmail@web53110.mail.yahoo.com> Acrobat 7.0 Professional allows one to create pdf that can be marked up using Adobe Reader 7. Does anyone know if this functionality is part of the (open) pdf standard which could (in principle at least) be included in (pdf[la])tex? Of course, you would still have to bring the changes back into your latex file. It would also be nice to have something besides Adobe Reader that could do the marking up.... Mark A __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Wed May 25 16:54:18 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:54:18 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Functionality for collaborative work In-Reply-To: <20050525204422.33631.qmail@web53110.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20050525204422.33631.qmail@web53110.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 25 May 2005, at 22:44, mark oilcan wrote: > Acrobat 7.0 Professional allows one to create pdf that can be > marked up > using Adobe Reader 7. Does anyone know if this functionality is > part of > the (open) pdf standard which could (in principle at least) be > included > in (pdf[la])tex? Of course, you would still have to bring the changes > back into your latex file. Context has some facilities for adding the post-it like notes to pdf files, but that is from the source. The underlying raw \TeX code could be used in pdflatex as well, I think. There is also a package for latex called attachfile which may be of interest. The encryption technique to allow Adobe Reader to do this is not publicly available. > It would also be nice to have something besides Adobe Reader that > could do the marking up.... Preview in Tiger can do this, and Tiger offers the raw functionality to add this to other viewers as well. HTMH, Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macmechanic at fastmail.fm Wed May 25 20:30:35 2005 From: macmechanic at fastmail.fm (Rene Borgella) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 20:30:35 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop? In-Reply-To: <7E55867E-8269-4EBC-A0A0-BB768715ABEB@mac.com> References: <5E67E8B8-95A5-42F2-98D0-90914490A8B6@xs4all.nl> <7E55867E-8269-4EBC-A0A0-BB768715ABEB@mac.com> Message-ID: Bruno: You may want to give SubEthaEdit a try. They claim to support LaTex (see 2nd link) I haven't used this program in the way you are inquiring about, but it may be worth a shot. The license is free for academic users. >From their web site: "SubEthaEdit is a powerful and lean text editor. And it's the only collaborative one you can actually use. By combining the ease of Bonjour with the world's best text collaboration engine, it makes working together not only possible but even fun?" Support for AppleScript , ActionScript , C, C++, CSS, HTML, Java, Javascript, LaTeX, Lua, Objective-C, Pascal, Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby, SQL, XML already included. HTH, Ren? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Wed May 25 21:28:03 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herb Schulz) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 20:28:03 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Undesired Rotated Figure in Ps4Pdf & PSTricks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 5/18/05 9:28 AM, "Vince McGarry" wrote: > On May 18, 2005, at 4:43 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > >> Eureka! That works. >> > > This is enlightening and it does work. Thanks, Bruno. Ross's remarks > are interesting, as well. Although this recent addition may not be > the best choice for "default" behavior, it appears that this will be > the expected behavior of these scripts from now on. > >> It might then make sense to keep automatic rotation as the default >> for both ps2pdf and epstopdf, but provide easy switches for the >> user to modify this default on a per-file basis or in a pref file. > > Is it easy to provide "easy switches?" > > Vince Howdy, Sorry to take this long to get back top you but I've been out of town and offline for the last week. It also gave me time to look over things like ps2pdf13 and ps2pdfwr, etc., for an alternative to editing the latter. What I discovered is that adding the -dAutoRotatePages=/None option to the ps2pdf13 call works quite well since that is passed to ps2pdfwr and then onto gs. The following ps4pdf.engine seems to work well: #!/bin/sh basefname=$(basename "$1" .tex) # process the figures latex --shell-escape "$1" dvips -Ppdf -o "${basefname}-pics.ps" "${basefname}.dvi" ps2pdf13 -dAutoRotatePages=/None "${basefname}-pics.ps" "${basefname}-pics.pdf" pdfcrop "${basefname}-pics.pdf" /bin/mv "${basefname}-pics-crop.pdf" "${basefname}-pics.pdf" /bin/rm "${basefname}-pics.ps" "${basefname}.dvi" #process the file pdflatex --shell-escape "$1" where you can see that the -dAutoRotatePages=/None option has been added to the ps2pdf13 line. For those using my adaptation of pdftricks to use pdfcrop for correct Bounding Boxes I've added that to it too. You can pick up the changed file from my download site, , as NewPdftricks.zip. I will try to make this an option to pdftricks with the default being no auto-rotation but I'll need a little time. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From vmcgarry at austin.rr.com Wed May 25 23:20:51 2005 From: vmcgarry at austin.rr.com (Vince McGarry) Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:20:51 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Undesired Rotated Figure in Ps4Pdf & PSTricks In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks, Herb. It works! Vince On May 25, 2005, at 8:28 PM, Herb Schulz wrote: > On 5/18/05 9:28 AM, "Vince McGarry" wrote: > > >> On May 18, 2005, at 4:43 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: >> >> >>> Eureka! That works. >>> >>> >> >> This is enlightening and it does work. Thanks, Bruno. Ross's remarks >> are interesting, as well. Although this recent addition may not be >> the best choice for "default" behavior, it appears that this will be >> the expected behavior of these scripts from now on. >> >> >>> It might then make sense to keep automatic rotation as the default >>> for both ps2pdf and epstopdf, but provide easy switches for the >>> user to modify this default on a per-file basis or in a pref file. >>> >> >> Is it easy to provide "easy switches?" >> >> Vince >> > > Howdy, > > Sorry to take this long to get back top you but I've been out of > town and > offline for the last week. It also gave me time to look over things > like > ps2pdf13 and ps2pdfwr, etc., for an alternative to editing the > latter. What > I discovered is that adding the -dAutoRotatePages=/None option to the > ps2pdf13 call works quite well since that is passed to ps2pdfwr and > then > onto gs. The following ps4pdf.engine seems to work well: > > #!/bin/sh > basefname=$(basename "$1" .tex) > # process the figures > latex --shell-escape "$1" > dvips -Ppdf -o "${basefname}-pics.ps" "${basefname}.dvi" > ps2pdf13 -dAutoRotatePages=/None "${basefname}-pics.ps" > "${basefname}-pics.pdf" > pdfcrop "${basefname}-pics.pdf" > /bin/mv "${basefname}-pics-crop.pdf" "${basefname}-pics.pdf" > /bin/rm "${basefname}-pics.ps" "${basefname}.dvi" > #process the file > pdflatex --shell-escape "$1" > > where you can see that the -dAutoRotatePages=/None option has been > added to > the ps2pdf13 line. > > For those using my adaptation of pdftricks to use pdfcrop for correct > Bounding Boxes I've added that to it too. You can pick up the > changed file > from my download site, , as > NewPdftricks.zip. I will try to make this an option to pdftricks > with the > default being no auto-rotation but I'll need a little time. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest.com) > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au Thu May 26 00:17:55 2005 From: mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:47:55 +0930 Subject: [OS X TeX] lucida bright font install question Message-ID: Hi all I have just set myself up with a new PB and reinstalled tetex and texshop and it can't find the lucida bright fonts I have in my home directory in /Library/texmf .... . All worked fine before transferring over. I have a vague memory that I need to run udpmap or something to make this work ? Could someone remind me please? Thanks - Michael --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au Thu May 26 00:32:37 2005 From: mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au (Michael Murray) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:02:37 +0930 Subject: [OS X TeX] lucida bright font install question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OK I found it in the archives sudo updmap --enable Map lucidabr.map sudo updmap --enable Map lumath.map Thanks to Bruno from awhile ago! Michael --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From pastor at fusl.ac.be Thu May 26 02:47:04 2005 From: pastor at fusl.ac.be (Franck Pastor) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:47:04 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] A suggestion for NewPdftricks (or for pdftricks in general) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <58aeac51390284a648dab468c29e9b86@fusl.ac.be> Le 26-mai-05, ? 03:28, Herb Schulz a ?crit : > You can pick up the changed file > from my download site, , as > NewPdftricks.zip. I will try to make this an option to pdftricks with > the > default being no auto-rotation but I'll need a little time. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest.com) What about making an option to NewPdftricks for the font size (if you have time enough, of course, and if it's possible) ? i.e, something like \usepackage[12pt]{pdftricks} Up to know, even if the principal document begins with "\documentclass[12pt]{article}", the header of each pdftricks file ("file-fig1.tex", "file-fig2.tex") still is "\documentclass{article}" only, without the font size option :-( Hence the labels in the figures are far too small... I have found a workaround : I add "\fontsize{12pt}\selectfont" at the beginning of each pspicture : \begin{pdfdisplay} \begin{pspicture}(0,0),(5,5) \fontsize{12pt}\selectfont .... \end{pspicture} \end{pspicture} But it's a bit annoying if you numerous pictures... However, NewPdftricks remains the most reliable way (IMO) to get pstricks pictures with pdflatex. For example, ps4pdf still works very badly pst-3dplot, the pstricks package I use most of the time... Best regards, Franck Pastor --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From johan at almqvist.net Thu May 26 04:27:34 2005 From: johan at almqvist.net (Johan Almqvist) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:27:34 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdftex and hyperref question Message-ID: <99D6BB41-6658-42A2-84B1-21787B4F8F12@almqvist.net> Hej So I have \usepackage[pdftex,bookmarks,pdfauthor={Johan Per Fredrik Almqvist},colorlinks]{hyperref} as the last line of my preamble (btw annoys me that the links option is disabled in draft mode --- I use ifdraft and margin comments extensively while writing; solution: add final as an option to the hyperref line above and draft as an option to memoir) The problem I get is that the bookmarks bar (internal chapter overview) comes out fine, BUT that the chapter titles are 'to1Introduction', 'to2Related work' etc. What are the three first letters for? And how can I make them dissappear? -Johan -- Johan Almqvist johan at almqvist.net --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From johan at almqvist.net Thu May 26 04:30:59 2005 From: johan at almqvist.net (Johan Almqvist) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:30:59 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] BibDesk and BibTeX macros Message-ID: <19520B59-EA4C-4DE6-BD71-9CC1872DDEAC@almqvist.net> Hello How can I make BibDesk not {} around fields that are macros (date, journal etc)? I now write 'nov' for november in BibDesk, but it will write month= {nov} to the .bib file and that won't get expanded. On another (BibTeX) note, can I combine macros and non-macros as in journal={{Submitted to} ieeese} [which doesn't work] And while we're at it, I lost the link to the FAQ answer on how to handle different spellings(initials) of the same name? -Johan -- Johan Almqvist johan at almqvist.net --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Thu May 26 04:39:57 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:39:57 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] lucida bright font install question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1C8CE275-4F87-463E-B32E-E9D579D6D85D@mac.com> Le 26 mai 05 ? 06:32, Michael Murray a ?crit : > OK I found it in the archives > > sudo updmap --enable Map lucidabr.map > sudo updmap --enable Map lumath.map > > Thanks to Bruno from awhile ago! Hi Michael, Nice to hear from you! I would recommend also: sudo updmap --enable Map lucidabr-o.map sudo updmap --enable Map lumath-o.map Why? The file lucidabr.map and lumath.map, from /Library/teTeX/share/ texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/lucida/, define maps for the Karl-Berry- style font names hlhr8t etc., while the files lucidabr-o.map and lumath-o.map, from /Library/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/map/dvips/ tetex/, define maps for the original Y&Y font names lbr etc. Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From post at vatolin.de Thu May 26 08:04:36 2005 From: post at vatolin.de (Friedrich Vosberg) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:04:36 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Cmd < and Cmd > Message-ID: <460B32E1-80AA-438C-AAEE-A42C34F120B0@vatolin.de> Hi. What the hell is this? I can not toggle the open Windows bei clicking Cmd > and Cmd <. In previous verions of TeXShop this was the shortcut for ever and ever. Why did it changed? Confused. Friedrich -- In a world without walls and fences, who needs gates and windows? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From stiber at u.washington.edu Thu May 26 08:24:16 2005 From: stiber at u.washington.edu (Michael Stiber) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 08:24:16 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] TOC hyperlinks and bookmarks in pdflatex Message-ID: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Has anyone gotten links to sections of the document from the table of contents and bookmarks working (using the hyperref package)? In principle, merely including the package should get that working. I've tried all the package options I can think of, including using pdflatex directly and ordinary latex and either dvipdf or dvips and ps2pdf. All I get are TOC links and bookmarks that point to the very beginning of the document. htlatex produces correct links, with or without frames. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin) iD8DBQFClb/wqkBhAcZpGs0RAnmCAJ0XJCZ5zBJ2ETsLl2LIELMe2yEJgACfWEiy gM1PAh0HgNlQTWArBxgvyno= =KWhp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Thu May 26 08:27:04 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:27:04 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Cmd < and Cmd > In-Reply-To: <460B32E1-80AA-438C-AAEE-A42C34F120B0@vatolin.de> References: <460B32E1-80AA-438C-AAEE-A42C34F120B0@vatolin.de> Message-ID: <137DE67B-42A0-4910-86B3-885C86A6F1D7@mac.com> Le 26 mai 05 ? 14:04, Friedrich Vosberg a ?crit : > What the hell is this? I can not toggle the open Windows bei > clicking Cmd > and Cmd <. In previous verions of TeXShop this was > the shortcut for ever and ever. > > Why did it changed? The problem seems to be caused by the localization: - In the US, the shortcuts are Cmd-` and Cmd-~, which correspond to the key on the right of the Shift key in the lower left corner of the keyboard. - However, on the French and German keyboards, and probably on other keyboards as well, the same key yields Cmd-< and Cmd->, respectively, which are already taken by TeXShop for changing the magnification of the preview window. Hence the problem. Thus it arises because Apple defined the shortcut for toggling windows not to specific symbols, but to a specific key, for ease of use. BTW, in this respect again the localization of OS X is deficient: in the Mac Help, of you look at the page about keyboard shorcuts for window management, in the French version of the page the window toggling shortcuts are still given as Cmd-` and Cmd-~, even though they are actually Cmd-< and Cmd->. Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Thu May 26 08:30:01 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:30:01 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] TOC hyperlinks and bookmarks in pdflatex In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <327F31CD-EC17-44CE-99F2-C85596BC297B@xs4all.nl> On 26 May 2005, at 14:24, Michael Stiber wrote: > Has anyone gotten links to sections of the document from the table > of contents and bookmarks working (using the hyperref package)? In > principle, merely including the package should get that working. It may not work in all viewers, so that can be relevant (testing is done mostly with xpdf and Adobe Reader; Tiger's Preview should also handle all of them, Postview may miss a few). > I've tried all the package options I can think of, including using > pdflatex directly and ordinary latex and either dvipdf or dvips and > ps2pdf. All I get are TOC links and bookmarks that point to the > very beginning of the document. htlatex produces correct links, > with or without frames. It works for me, but without actual sample code it is hard to say what goes wrong. Please create a minimal sample that shows the problem and report again on the list. (I could post my preamble, but that is a 682 line separate style file. It all works, really!). Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Thu May 26 08:36:44 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:36:44 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Cmd < and Cmd > In-Reply-To: <137DE67B-42A0-4910-86B3-885C86A6F1D7@mac.com> References: <460B32E1-80AA-438C-AAEE-A42C34F120B0@vatolin.de> <137DE67B-42A0-4910-86B3-885C86A6F1D7@mac.com> Message-ID: <9F9A7DC9-AA89-4A8B-8BE0-082C039EE64A@mac.com> Le 26 mai 05 ? 14:27, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > - However, on the French and German keyboards, and probably on > other keyboards as well, the same key yields Cmd-< and Cmd->, > respectively, which are already taken by TeXShop for changing the > magnification of the preview window. Hence the problem. Sorry, I wrote too rapidly: Cmd-< and Cmd-> are used by TeXShop to indent and unindent lines in the editor window, of course. The problem arises now because, I think, before Tiger the corresponding shortcuts were Cmd-[ and Cmd-], but they have been changed because Cmd-[ and Cmd-] are now used for navigating backwards and forwards in the preview window. This is in line with Preview, but different from Safari, which uses Cmd-( and Cmd-). What a mess, even among OS X applications! Bruno Voisin--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Thu May 26 08:45:08 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:45:08 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Cmd < and Cmd > In-Reply-To: <9F9A7DC9-AA89-4A8B-8BE0-082C039EE64A@mac.com> References: <460B32E1-80AA-438C-AAEE-A42C34F120B0@vatolin.de> <137DE67B-42A0-4910-86B3-885C86A6F1D7@mac.com> <9F9A7DC9-AA89-4A8B-8BE0-082C039EE64A@mac.com> Message-ID: On 26 May 2005, at 14:36, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Sorry, I wrote too rapidly: Cmd-< and Cmd-> are used by TeXShop to > indent and unindent lines in the editor window, of course. The > problem arises now because, I think, before Tiger the corresponding > shortcuts were Cmd-[ and Cmd-], but they have been changed because > Cmd-[ and Cmd-] are now used for navigating backwards and forwards > in the preview window. And I still think Cmd-[ and Cmd-] can be used for both functions: this is in line with other editors (BBEdit, TextWrangler, and I think Alpha as well), and is unlikely to cause confusion anyway. > This is in line with Preview, but different from Safari, which uses > Cmd-( and Cmd-). What a mess, even among OS X applications! And that is yet another French peculiarity, doesn't work for me. Remind me to bring my own keyboard if I ever have to spend time at a conference in France ;). Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Thu May 26 09:02:37 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:02:37 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] BibDesk and BibTeX macros In-Reply-To: <19520B59-EA4C-4DE6-BD71-9CC1872DDEAC@almqvist.net> References: <19520B59-EA4C-4DE6-BD71-9CC1872DDEAC@almqvist.net> Message-ID: <417c7a5cb9730b52911bf90e6e21ced7@msrce.howard.edu> On May 26, 2005, at 4:30 AM, Johan Almqvist wrote: > Hello > > How can I make BibDesk not {} around fields that are macros (date, > journal etc)? > > I now write 'nov' for november in BibDesk, but it will write > month={nov} to the .bib file and that won't get expanded. > > On another (BibTeX) note, can I combine macros and non-macros as in > journal={{Submitted to} ieeese} [which doesn't work] Have you tried looking at section 5.3.2 of the BibDesk help? If you edit the field as raw BibTex you can change that. Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macplanet at macnews.de Thu May 26 09:39:34 2005 From: macplanet at macnews.de (Matthias Damm) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:39:34 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop? In-Reply-To: <6528E122-40C8-46B9-820B-19DABB82C1AB@math.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <6528E122-40C8-46B9-820B-19DABB82C1AB@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Message-ID: <2EC5F44D-024A-4ABB-BA0A-657014961E4C@macnews.de> Am 25.05.2005 um 16:36 schrieb Claus Gerhardt: > The \marginpar command, like \marginpar{Bruno}, in conjunction with > an if then construction to switch it on and off might be what you > want. The fixme package could be very useful here. Best, Matthias -- Matthias Damm mad at macpla.net PGP key: http://macpla.net/MatthiasDamm.asc PGP fingerprint: CED3 6074 7F7D 3148 C6F3 DFF2 05FF 3A0B 0D12 4D41 --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Thu May 26 10:20:46 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:20:46 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] A suggestion for NewPdftricks (or for pdftricks in general) In-Reply-To: <58aeac51390284a648dab468c29e9b86@fusl.ac.be> References: <58aeac51390284a648dab468c29e9b86@fusl.ac.be> Message-ID: On May 26, 2005, at 1:47 AM, Franck Pastor wrote: > What about making an option to NewPdftricks for the font size (if > you have time enough, of course, and if it's possible) ? i.e, > something like > > \usepackage[12pt]{pdftricks} > > Up to know, even if the principal document begins with > "\documentclass[12pt]{article}", the header of each pdftricks file > ("file-fig1.tex", "file-fig2.tex") still is "\documentclass > {article}" only, without the font size option :-( Hence the labels > in the figures are far too small... > > I have found a workaround : I add "\fontsize{12pt}\selectfont" at > the beginning of each pspicture : > > \begin{pdfdisplay} > \begin{pspicture}(0,0),(5,5) > \fontsize{12pt}\selectfont > .... > \end{pspicture} > \end{pspicture} > > But it's a bit annoying if you numerous pictures... > Howdy, You shouldn't really need to have the option since the information should be available from the documentclass command above it. I'm not sure how to get that information, yet, but I'll look into it. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From josecarrion at mac.com Thu May 26 10:31:54 2005 From: josecarrion at mac.com (Jose Carrion) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:31:54 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] pdftex and hyperref question In-Reply-To: <99D6BB41-6658-42A2-84B1-21787B4F8F12@almqvist.net> References: <99D6BB41-6658-42A2-84B1-21787B4F8F12@almqvist.net> Message-ID: <1850BFA0-8D72-4AD6-B0F4-4C05BC05F6A1@mac.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On May 26, 2005, at 4:27 AM, Johan Almqvist wrote: > The problem I get is that the bookmarks bar (internal chapter > overview) comes out fine, BUT that the chapter titles are > 'to1Introduction', 'to2Related work' etc. What are the three first > letters for? And how can I make them dissappear? You might want to check out the package memhfixc that fixes some incompatibilities between memoir and hyperref. Jose Carrion -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iD8DBQFCld3ar+ZuHrpRC6gRAs30AKDVTH/7g2dRpQpjbljGhKTN64WvZACff8/U XRNtHbnT2dSkZlgADlVSRyA= =0g0f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Thu May 26 14:08:43 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:08:43 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Autorotate Option on NewPdftricks Message-ID: Howdy, While the default on the pdftricks package I've put together is NOT to autorotate the images (what I suspect is what most people, including me, want) I've now added an optional argument, autorotate, to go back to the original behavior. Pick it up at , as usual. I'm also considering the setting of the default text point size for the generated figure files to automatically agree with the option chosen for the document class. I have one problem: if the memoir class (and some others I suspect (koma?)) is used there is a larger range of text sizes than 10--12pt. How should I handle that? right now the generated files use the the article class at a fixed 10pt (i.e., no option in the generated \documentclass{article}). Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ross at ics.mq.edu.au Thu May 26 20:15:00 2005 From: ross at ics.mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:15:00 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] A suggestion for NewPdftricks (or for pdftricks in general) In-Reply-To: <58aeac51390284a648dab468c29e9b86@fusl.ac.be> References: <58aeac51390284a648dab468c29e9b86@fusl.ac.be> Message-ID: <5ddbe6d032621a820435ea5a61c1adec@maths.mq.edu.au> On 26/05/2005, at 4:47 PM, Franck Pastor wrote: > > Le 26-mai-05, ? 03:28, Herb Schulz a ?crit : > > >> You can pick up the changed file >> from my download site, , as >> NewPdftricks.zip. I will try to make this an option to pdftricks with >> the >> default being no auto-rotation but I'll need a little time. >> >> Good Luck, >> >> Herb Schulz >> (herbs at wideopenwest.com) > > What about making an option to NewPdftricks for the font size (if you > have time enough, of course, and if it's possible) ? i.e, something > like > > \usepackage[12pt]{pdftricks} > > Up to know, even if the principal document begins with > "\documentclass[12pt]{article}", the header of each pdftricks file > ("file-fig1.tex", "file-fig2.tex") still is "\documentclass{article}" > only, without the font size option :-( Hence the labels in the figures > are far too small... > > I have found a workaround : I add "\fontsize{12pt}\selectfont" at the > beginning of each pspicture : There is a much easier way to solve this. pdftricks.sty has a macro \BeforeStream that determines what goes at the beginning of each job that creates an image; viz. \def\BeforeStream {\message{Opening PDFStream=\PDFTfigname.tex}% \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\documentclass{article}} \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\input\space tmp.inputs} \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\pagestyle{empty}} \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\begin{document}} } This is defined when the package is loaded. So to get 12pt sizes, just do a redefinition to include the desired option; as follows: \makeatletter % not necessary if done within a package \def\BeforeStream {\message{Opening PDFStream=\PDFTfigname.tex}% \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\documentclass[12pt]{article}} \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\input\space tmp.inputs} \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\pagestyle{empty}} \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\begin{document}} } \makeatother This should fix it for all the images. > > \begin{pdfdisplay} > \begin{pspicture}(0,0),(5,5) > \fontsize{12pt}\selectfont > .... > \end{pspicture} > \end{pspicture} > > But it's a bit annoying if you numerous pictures... Of course. Doing something in every picture is not the desirable way to go. Modifying the \BeforeStream header is one way to avoid this. Another is to place the \fontsize{12pt}\selectfont coding into the tmp.inputs file. This can be done using the {psinputs} environment. One or more of the following, when placed into your LaTeX document's preamble, should do what you want: \begin{psinputs} \fontsize{12pt}\selectfont \end{psinputs} \begin{psinputs} \AtBeginDocument{\fontsize{12pt}\selectfont} \end{psinputs} \begin{psinputs} \renewcommand{\normalsize}{\fontsize{12pt}\selectfont} \end{psinputs} \begin{psinputs} \AtBeginDocument{% \renewcommand{\normalsize}{\fontsize{12pt}\selectfont}% \normalsize } \end{psinputs} However, this only affects the size of your main font. Any other font-switches, such as \small \large, \LARGE, \footnotesize etc. as well as super-/subscripts in math will still be setup for a 10pt document. So it's probably better to use the \BeforeStream solution. > > However, NewPdftricks remains the most reliable way (IMO) to get > pstricks pictures with pdflatex. An option to NewPdftricks , as Herb says he is preparing, should be based on adjusting the contents of \BeforeStream . > For example, ps4pdf still works very badly pst-3dplot, the pstricks > package I use most of the time... > I've not encountered such problems with ps4pdf , which I use extensively in a very large Encyclopaedia project. Can you please post an example that gives bad results. > Best regards, Hope this helps, Ross Moore > > Franck Pastor > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross at maths.mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 +2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia fax: +61 +2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Thu May 26 21:16:10 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 20:16:10 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] A suggestion for NewPdftricks (or for pdftricks in general) In-Reply-To: <5ddbe6d032621a820435ea5a61c1adec@maths.mq.edu.au> References: <58aeac51390284a648dab468c29e9b86@fusl.ac.be> <5ddbe6d032621a820435ea5a61c1adec@maths.mq.edu.au> Message-ID: <65BB083B-5540-461B-A3BA-C228D09FF0B7@wideopenwest.com> On May 26, 2005, at 7:15 PM, Ross Moore wrote: > ... There is a much easier way to solve this. > > pdftricks.sty has a macro \BeforeStream that determines what goes > at the beginning of each job that creates an image; viz. > > \def\BeforeStream > {\message{Opening PDFStream=\PDFTfigname.tex}% > \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\documentclass{article}} > \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\input\space tmp.inputs} > \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\pagestyle{empty}} > \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\begin{document}} > } > ... Howdy, I was planning on doing something like \ifnum\@ptsize=0\relax \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\documentclass{article}} \else\ifnum\@ptsize=1\relax \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\documentclass[11pt]{article}} \else \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\documentclass[12pt]{article}} \fi\fi since any other choice would be caught earlier by the class. Simpleminded but it should work. This could be extended for the memoir class, etc. I don't think it makes too much difference what the class is since the figure(s) would be passed through pdfcrop (latex->dvips->ps2pdf13(with the auto-rotate off)->pdfcrop) anyway. By the way, in pdftricks each figure is in its own files; quite different than the case with ps4pdf. I've set up a TeXShop engine for ps4pdf that uses the same processing for the figure file as I use for pdftricks; that seems to solve a cropping problem I've seen in both cases. I can't say why I prefer pdftricks better than ps4pdf; maybe I understand how pdftricks works a bit better. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From pastor at fusl.ac.be Fri May 27 01:02:09 2005 From: pastor at fusl.ac.be (Franck Pastor) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 07:02:09 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] A suggestion for NewPdftricks (or for pdftricks in general) In-Reply-To: <5ddbe6d032621a820435ea5a61c1adec@maths.mq.edu.au> References: <58aeac51390284a648dab468c29e9b86@fusl.ac.be> <5ddbe6d032621a820435ea5a61c1adec@maths.mq.edu.au> Message-ID: Le 27-mai-05, ? 02:15, Ross Moore a ?crit : > \makeatletter % not necessary if done within a package > > \def\BeforeStream > {\message{Opening PDFStream=\PDFTfigname.tex}% > \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\documentclass[12pt]{article}} > \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\input\space tmp.inputs} > \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\pagestyle{empty}} > \immediate\write\verbatim at out{\string\begin{document}} > } > > \makeatother > > > This should fix it for all the images. Thanks !!! I'll try that later today. > I've not encountered such problems with ps4pdf , which I use > extensively > in a very large Encyclopaedia project. > Can you please post an example that gives bad results. >> Here ! This is an example I gave on this list some months ago ;-) \documentclass[12pt,a4paper]{article} \usepackage{ps4pdf} \PSforPDF{% \usepackage{pstricks} \usepackage{pst-3dplot} } \begin{document} \PSforPDF{% \begin{pspicture}(-6,-6)(6,6) \psset{unit=7.5cm,hiddenLine=true,drawCoor=true} \pstThreeDCoor[drawing=true, linewidth=1pt,linecolor=black,% xMin=0,xMax=1.1, yMin=0,yMax=1.1, zMin=0,zMax=1.1] \end{pspicture} } \end{document} I use TeXShop 1.40 with 10.3.9, and the latter Gerben's distribution of TeX. I compile it with the following script, kindly given by Herb to the list : #!/bin/sh location=$(dirname "$1") basefname="${location}/`basename "$1" .tex`" # process the figures latex --shell-escape "$1" dvips -Ppdf -o "${basefname}-pics.ps" "${basefname}.dvi" ps2pdf13 "${basefname}-pics.ps" "${basefname}-pics.pdf" /bin/rm "${basefname}-pics.ps" "${basefname}.dvi" #process the file (once) pdflatex --shell-escape "$1" The figure is cropped in my resulting file. There should have been "x", "y", "z" written in front of the arrow, but they have disappeared, and moreover the arrow of the z-axis is gone :-((( This also happens with the last version of pst-pdf, which is based on ps4pdf... No problems with Newpdftricks ! Thanks again for your help ! F. Pastor --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From johan at almqvist.net Fri May 27 04:03:02 2005 From: johan at almqvist.net (Johan Almqvist) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:03:02 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Multiple bibliographies Message-ID: <3A1104D8-8992-41E9-8D28-212A766C505A@almqvist.net> Hello I am in the process of writing my Master's thesis, and for diverse reasons I would like to have several (two) bibliographies. This works quite fine with multibib and some hacking (that is: \usepackage[resetlabels]{multibib} \makeatletter \newcommand\biblabelprefix{} \renewcommand\@biblabel[1]{[\biblabelprefix#1]} \def\@bibitem#1{\item\if at filesw \immediate\write\@auxout{\string \bibcite{#1}{\biblabelprefix\the\value{\@listctr}}}\fi\ignorespaces} \makeatother \newcites{ref}{References} \newcites{survey}{Surveyed articles} ... \renewcommand\biblabelprefix{R-} \bibliographystyleref{plain} \bibliographyref{references} \renewcommand\prebibhook{Below, the reader will find a list of the articles reviewed as a basis for chapter \ref{an-eval}. They are listed separately because the creation of this collection has been a significant investment in time and money.} \renewcommand\biblabelprefix{S-} \bibliographystylesurvey{plain} \bibliographysurvey{secret} However, I would like not only the numbers in the list of references to be prefixed by R- and S-, but also the actual references in the text [R-15] (they now just say [15]). -Johan -- Johan Almqvist johan at almqvist.net --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From dominique.thillaud at wanadoo.fr Fri May 27 04:35:44 2005 From: dominique.thillaud at wanadoo.fr (Dominique Thillaud) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:35:44 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Multiple bibliographies In-Reply-To: <3A1104D8-8992-41E9-8D28-212A766C505A@almqvist.net> Message-ID: <50E9B8E0-CE8A-11D9-8F02-00039372C378@wanadoo.fr> Protecting time and money in a Master's thesis ? Interresting ! Dominique Le vendredi, 27 mai 2005, ? 10:03 Europe/Paris, Johan Almqvist a ?crit : > Hello > > I am in the process of writing my Master's thesis, and for diverse > reasons I would like to have several (two) bibliographies. > > This works quite fine with multibib and some hacking (that is: > > \usepackage[resetlabels]{multibib} > \makeatletter > \newcommand\biblabelprefix{} > \renewcommand\@biblabel[1]{[\biblabelprefix#1]} > \def\@bibitem#1{\item\if at filesw > \immediate\write\@auxout{\string\bibcite{#1}{\biblabelprefix\the\value{ > \@listctr}}}\fi\ignorespaces} > \makeatother > \newcites{ref}{References} > \newcites{survey}{Surveyed articles} > > ... > > \renewcommand\biblabelprefix{R-} > \bibliographystyleref{plain} > \bibliographyref{references} > > \renewcommand\prebibhook{Below, the reader will find a list of the > articles reviewed > as a basis for chapter \ref{an-eval}. They are listed separately > because the creation > of this collection has been a significant investment in time and > money.} > \renewcommand\biblabelprefix{S-} > \bibliographystylesurvey{plain} > \bibliographysurvey{secret} > > > However, I would like not only the numbers in the list of references > to be prefixed by R- and S-, but also the actual references in the > text [R-15] (they now just say [15]). > > -Johan > -- > Johan Almqvist > johan at almqvist.net > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From johan at almqvist.net Fri May 27 04:44:19 2005 From: johan at almqvist.net (Johan Almqvist) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:44:19 +0200 Subject: [OT] Re: [OS X TeX] Multiple bibliographies In-Reply-To: <50E9B8E0-CE8A-11D9-8F02-00039372C378@wanadoo.fr> References: <50E9B8E0-CE8A-11D9-8F02-00039372C378@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: Hej On May 27, 2005, at 10:35, Dominique Thillaud wrote: > Protecting time and money in a Master's thesis ? Interresting ! > > Le vendredi, 27 mai 2005, ? 10:03 Europe/Paris, Johan Almqvist a > ?crit : >> Below, the reader will find a list of the articles reviewed >> as a basis for chapter X. They are listed separately because the >> creation >> of this collection has been a significant investment in time and >> money. Not my own time and money, unfortunately :( but that of the institute where I do the thesis. :) -Johan -- Johan Almqvist johan at almqvist.net --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bilalbarakat at web.de Fri May 27 05:52:31 2005 From: bilalbarakat at web.de (Bilal Barakat) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:52:31 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] custom bib styles in bibdesk Message-ID: Apologies for the daft question, but where do I need to put new .bst bibliography style files in order for them to be available in BibDesk's preview? I've tried the ~/Library/texmf tree, the /usr/local/teTeX/share .. texmf tree, rehashed with texhash, all to no avail. Maybe I'm missing something obvious.... Bilal. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From M.J.B.Stokhof at uva.nl Fri May 27 06:15:49 2005 From: M.J.B.Stokhof at uva.nl (Martin Stokhof) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:15:49 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] custom bib styles in bibdesk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1dad00f6c4c3d0d0fcffe46eca1f6823@uva.nl> On 27 May, 2005, at 11:52, Bilal Barakat wrote: > Apologies for the daft question, but where do I need to put new .bst > bibliography style files in order for them to be available in > BibDesk's preview? > I've tried the ~/Library/texmf tree, the /usr/local/teTeX/share .. > texmf tree, rehashed with texhash, all to no avail. Maybe I'm missing > something obvious.... > > Bilal. > > Maybe this is superflous, bu when you put them in ~/Library/texmf (preferred location because that doesn't get overwritten when you update your teTeX), did you mimic the relevant part of the structure of the system Library? My .bst styles files live in: ~/Library/texmf/bibtex/bst and BibDesk can find them there. Martin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From johan at almqvist.net Fri May 27 06:20:42 2005 From: johan at almqvist.net (Johan Almqvist) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:20:42 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] custom bib styles in bibdesk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <839366D8-297B-4ED5-B8E0-09430023D4EC@almqvist.net> On May 27, 2005, at 11:52, Bilal Barakat wrote: > Apologies for the daft question, but where do I need to put > new .bst bibliography style files in order for them to be available > in BibDesk's preview? > I've tried the ~/Library/texmf tree, the /usr/local/teTeX/share .. > texmf tree, rehashed with texhash, all to no avail. Maybe I'm > missing something obvious.... You can try entering the complete filename to the .bst file in the preferences panel. -Johan -- Johan Almqvist johan at almqvist.net --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Fri May 27 08:01:01 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:01:01 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] custom bib styles in bibdesk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <150cd24e6c824f70d199fcdac213733d@Web.DE> Am 27.05.2005 um 11:52 schrieb Bilal Barakat: > Apologies for the daft question, but where do I need to put new .bst > bibliography style files in order for them to be available in > BibDesk's preview? > /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/bibtex/bst/ ~/Library/texmf/bibtex/bst/ Both are secure, the first one needs a texhash. -- Greetings Pete "A mathematician is a machine that turns coffee into theorems." --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 27 09:57:57 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 08:57:57 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] [OT] Mail & Top Posting Message-ID: <508FF16B-7401-4845-9C0F-A35918F9606B@wideopenwest.com> Howdy, I'm switching over to Mail from (gasp) Entourage v.X and, after setting up some Rules to mimic the list handling I have under Entourage things are looking pretty nice. The main reason for the switch is that Entourage v.X is acting a bit buggy under 10.4.1 (which has its own problems... Sigh) with occasional display slow downs, etc. One thing I don't like is that Mail encourages top posting in replies since the cursor is initially at the top of the page. I've got my Signature at the bottom of the page, where I want it, but I'd like the cursor to start just below the quoted text. Is there a way for me to have Mail do that? P.S. In all previous reincarnations of OS X I was able to get away with a nice stable system by simply doing an Update. With Tiger I ended up doing an Archive & Install because of the horrible instability I was seeing. Spending most of a day figuring out what I had to carry over from the Previous System folder was a pain but things where better although one more thing really helped out (and Spotlight helped me find the information which I forgot I had!). Delete everything in your ~/Library/Preferences/ByHost/ directory. Anything that is needed will be recreated. I had to reset a few Preferences, e.g., my Screen Saver, but things have been much better since I did that. There are a few other gripes, e.g., the Finder Find is crippled since it is Spotlight based and won't look into ``hidden'' folders like / bin/. I'm back to using Locator, which uses the locate database (updated automatically by Macaroni every week), to do those kinds of searches. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From banuelos at math.purdue.edu Fri May 27 11:39:13 2005 From: banuelos at math.purdue.edu (Rodrigo Banuelos) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 10:39:13 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 Message-ID: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> I am sure the following problem has come up (and solved) before but I have not been able to find it in the list. I installed Tex (using Gerben Wierda's i-installer) on a new machine before installing Apple's X11. Now, when I type "latex", "tex" or xdvi on an X11 terminal I get back "bash: latex: command not found," and the same for the others. I know this to do with bash vs tcsh but, what is the permanent solution? Thanks, Rodrigo --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Fri May 27 12:10:32 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 18:10:32 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [OT] Mail & Top Posting In-Reply-To: <508FF16B-7401-4845-9C0F-A35918F9606B@wideopenwest.com> References: <508FF16B-7401-4845-9C0F-A35918F9606B@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: Le 27 mai 05 ? 15:57, Herbert Schulz a ?crit : > One thing I don't like is that Mail encourages top posting in > replies since the cursor is initially at the top of the page. I've > got my Signature at the bottom of the page, where I want it, but > I'd like the cursor to start just below the quoted text. Is there a > way for me to have Mail do that? I thought there was an option in Mail to control that (top-posting or bottom-posting), but I can't find it any longer now. Another solution is Thunderbird , with the advantage of getting multi-platform but the disadvantage of losing access to some OS X niceties, like SpotLight for email messages. Thunderbird has an item for choosing top-posting or bottom-posting, in the pref "Composition and Addressing" for each account. One more thing about Mail in Tiger: it uses a custom format for mailboxes, no longer the Unix format which was the norm up to and including Panther. Namely, you no longer have a single huge plain text "mbox" file inside a .mbox bundle, but a multitude of .emlx files, one per message. Which means, once your mailboxes will have been converted by Mail for use in Tiger, that you will lose the ability to migrate them afterwards to another mailer should you decide a switch. The mbox file at the time of the conversion will be kept, but none of the messages received afterwards will be added to it. > P.S. In all previous reincarnations of OS X I was able to get away > with a nice stable system by simply doing an Update. With Tiger I > ended up doing an Archive & Install because of the horrible > instability I was seeing. Spending most of a day figuring out what > I had to carry over from the Previous System folder was a pain but > things where better although one more thing really helped out (and > Spotlight helped me find the information which I forgot I had!). > Delete everything in your ~/Library/Preferences/ByHost/ directory. > Anything that is needed will be recreated. I had to reset a few > Preferences, e.g., my Screen Saver, but things have been much > better since I did that. After having done several Archive & Install over the years (for Jaguar, Panther and Tiger), I now expect 2 to 3 days for the whole process: downloading all the software (or finding the CDs on my shelves) that installs through Apple or custom installers; backup texmf.local; repair disk/permissions then install OS X and Xcode then run System Update; reinstall all installer-based software, including TeX, XeTeX and additions to texmf.local; browse through Previous Systems to ensure nothing has been forgotten; burn installers on CD or DVD in case uninstall scripts are required afterwards. For example, Windows Media Player, iWork, Adobe Reader, cocoAspell, NeoOffice, ManOpen, etc., all install components inside the system directories. For them I consider safer, though time-consuming, to rerun the installer scripts or software rather than move back the components from /Previous Systems/Previous System1/Library/Internet Plug-Ins/ etc., in case I forget something. > There are a few other gripes, e.g., the Finder Find is crippled > since it is Spotlight based and won't look into ``hidden'' folders > like /bin/. I'm back to using Locator, which uses the locate > database (updated automatically by Macaroni every week), to do > those kinds of searches. It's not absolutely necessary to do this: - Open a Finder window, launch a search and press the Other... "key" in the "bookmark bar" at the top of the window. This will create a panel in which you can add permanently, and then check, directories to be searched. - Open another window, use Go To Folder (Cmd-Shift-G) to make appear a hidden directory such as /usr. - Drag this directory to the panel, where it will be added permanently. - Back at the top of the window, press the + button then click on the item in the first column and choose Other... in the menu that appears. Then, in the new list that appears, locate the line starting with Visibility and select it. You're done. I find this extremely inconvenient, and I do hope that, at some point, a pref will be added to go back to good ole' Panther Find window. There is also, I think, another solution but that seems to be discouraged by Apple on Tiger: make all files and directories visible, including those with name starting by a dot or the /usr etc. directories. There are two ways to do this: - From the command line, using the "defaults" command. In Terminal, type defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles YES See . - Assuming you've installed Xcode, double-click on ~/Library/ Preferences/com.apple.finder.plist. This will open the file in Property List editor. Click on the Root triangle at the top left of the window, press the button "New Child", then enter AppleShowAllFiles, then Boolean, then Yes. I found this this morning in "OS X in a Nutshell" (extremely useful book, halfway between hard- core Mac OS and GUI on one hand, and hard-core Unix and CLI on the other hand), I can't wait for the Tiger version. After either way, when you log out then on, or simply relaunch the Finder, you'll see all normally invisible files and folders appear magically. However, as some have remarked on the OS X forums , all the icons, for either visible or invisible files, are dimmed (though effective). It's open to interpretation whether that's a bug or an intended behaviour, to discourage the user from activating the option (knowing that trashing some invisible directories can render the system completely unusable and irrecoverable, forcing a new install). Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From justin at mac.com Fri May 27 12:18:07 2005 From: justin at mac.com (Justin Walker) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 09:18:07 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] [OT] Mail & Top Posting In-Reply-To: References: <508FF16B-7401-4845-9C0F-A35918F9606B@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <10fce03d3e312d0ce8c390c4805736c3@mac.com> On May 27, 2005, at 9:10, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 27 mai 05 ? 15:57, Herbert Schulz a ?crit : > >> One thing I don't like is that Mail encourages top posting in replies >> since the cursor is initially at the top of the page. I've got my >> Signature at the bottom of the page, where I want it, but I'd like >> the cursor to start just below the quoted text. Is there a way for me >> to have Mail do that? > > I thought there was an option in Mail to control that (top-posting or > bottom-posting), but I can't find it any longer now. I don't recall ever seeing such an option in Mail. I've always just snipped my way to the sites I want to insert comemnts... [snip] > One more thing about Mail in Tiger: it uses a custom format for > mailboxes, no longer the Unix format which was the norm up to and > including Panther Not so custom; I think it's the old MH-style mailboxes (directory per mailbox; file per message). MH was a collection of "small" commands for handling mail, and this approach seemed to work better (for MH, at any rate). Not as old as the 'mbox' approach, but it's been around for 20++ years. Just another $0.02 (0.0005 euros ;-}) Cheers, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for General Semantics -------- When LuteFisk is outlawed, Only outlaws will have LuteFisk -------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 27 13:38:11 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:38:11 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] [OT] Mail & Top Posting In-Reply-To: References: <508FF16B-7401-4845-9C0F-A35918F9606B@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <73C25163-8AA6-451A-BD2F-62B90A6C9216@wideopenwest.com> On May 27, 2005, at 11:10 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 27 mai 05 ? 15:57, Herbert Schulz a ?crit : > > >> One thing I don't like is that Mail encourages top posting in >> replies since the cursor is initially at the top of the page. I've >> got my Signature at the bottom of the page, where I want it, but >> I'd like the cursor to start just below the quoted text. Is there >> a way for me to have Mail do that? >> > > I thought there was an option in Mail to control that (top-posting > or bottom-posting), but I can't find it any longer now. > Howdy, There seems to be an option that determines whether the Signature goes before or after the quoted text but even with my Signature after the cursor starts before the quote. I guess I can live with it. Maybe it will get me to look over the quote better; a bright side to the problem. > ... > One more thing about Mail in Tiger: it uses a custom format for > mailboxes, no longer the Unix format which was the norm up to and > including Panther. Namely, you no longer have a single huge plain > text "mbox" file inside a .mbox bundle, but a multitude of .emlx > files, one per message. Which means, once your mailboxes will have > been converted by Mail for use in Tiger, that you will lose the > ability to migrate them afterwards to another mailer should you > decide a switch. The mbox file at the time of the conversion will > be kept, but none of the messages received afterwards will be added > to it. > ... I know that and I thought I heard that there was an option somewhere to Export the mailboxes and that would produce an .mbox file. I can't find it now... but the last message on is not very encouraging. > ... > >> There are a few other gripes, e.g., the Finder Find is crippled >> since it is Spotlight based and won't look into ``hidden'' folders >> like /bin/. I'm back to using Locator, which uses the locate >> database (updated automatically by Macaroni every week), to do >> those kinds of searches. >> > > It's not absolutely necessary to do this: > > (missing instructions on how to do this) > You're done. I find this extremely inconvenient, and I do hope > that, at some point, a pref will be added to go back to good ole' > Panther Find window. > ... You said it! > ... > - From the command line, using the "defaults" command. In Terminal, > type > > defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles YES > > See PortingUnix/additionalfeatures/chapter_10_section_7.html>. > > - Assuming you've installed Xcode, double-click on ~/Library/ > Preferences/com.apple.finder.plist. This will open the file in > Property List editor. Click on the Root triangle at the top left of > the window, press the button "New Child", then enter > AppleShowAllFiles, then Boolean, then Yes. I found this this > morning in "OS X in a Nutshell" (extremely useful book, halfway > between hard-core Mac OS and GUI on one hand, and hard-core Unix > and CLI on the other hand), I can't wait for the Tiger version. > > After either way, when you log out then on, or simply relaunch the > Finder, you'll see all normally invisible files and folders appear > magically. However, as some have remarked on the OS X forums > 68ade492/1>, all the icons, for either visible or invisible files, > are dimmed (though effective). It's open to interpretation whether > that's a bug or an intended behaviour, to discourage the user from > activating the option (knowing that trashing some invisible > directories can render the system completely unusable and > irrecoverable, forcing a new install). > I thought about doing this but I don't really want to see all the .xxx files too and the discussion you mention on the OS X Forum seems to indicate that the side effects aren't good. I think once someone finds what Tiger uses instead of the .hidden file a quick piece of freeware will fix this problem. So far when Tiger is good it's very, very good and when it's rotten... Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From joseph.slater at wright.edu Fri May 27 12:38:33 2005 From: joseph.slater at wright.edu (Joseph C. Slater) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:38:33 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> Message-ID: <98A0B14B-62CD-45D9-84AF-0958A293D8DC@wright.edu> On May 27, 2005, at 11:39 AM, Rodrigo Banuelos wrote: > I am sure the following problem has come up (and solved) before > but I have not been able to find it in the list. I installed Tex > (using > Gerben Wierda's i-installer) on a new machine before installing > Apple's > X11. Now, when I type "latex", "tex" or xdvi on an X11 terminal I > get back > "bash: latex: command not found," and the same for the others. I > know this > to do with bash vs tcsh but, what is the permanent solution? Run the configuration part of the TeX install and tell it "yes" when it asks if you want to enable command line interface. Joe --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 27 13:04:54 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 12:04:54 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> Message-ID: <59795BC2-01BA-4AE9-8420-A71183B37DFC@wideopenwest.com> On May 27, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Rodrigo Banuelos wrote: > I am sure the following problem has come up (and solved) before > but I have not been able to find it in the list. I installed Tex > (using > Gerben Wierda's i-installer) on a new machine before installing > Apple's > X11. Now, when I type "latex", "tex" or xdvi on an X11 terminal I > get back > "bash: latex: command not found," and the same for the others. I > know this > to do with bash vs tcsh but, what is the permanent solution? > > Thanks, > Rodrigo Howdy, I think the easiest thing to do is run the configuration for the TeX i-installer package again now that X11 is installed. By the way, you might want to install Ghostscript, etc., again since they get special X11 configuration if the installer detects the presence of X11. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Fri May 27 14:31:55 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:31:55 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> Message-ID: Am 27.05.2005 um 17:39 schrieb Rodrigo Banuelos: > Now, when I type "latex", "tex" or xdvi on an X11 terminal I get back > "bash: latex: command not found," and the same for the others. I know > this > to do with bash vs tcsh but, what is the permanent solution? /etc/csh.login needs: ## TeX modifications start at Sa M?r 19 17:57:34 CET 2005C ## Do not remove the previous line if ("${uid}" != "0") then set path = ( ${path} /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current ) endif ## Do not remove the next line ## TeX modifications end at Sa M?r 19 17:57:34 CET 2005C /etc/profile needs: ## TeX modifications start at Sa M?r 19 17:57:34 CET 2005T ## Do not remove the previous line if [ `whoami` != "root" ] then PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current" export PATH fi ## Do not remove the next line ## TeX modifications end at Sa M?r 19 17:57:34 CET 2005 -- Greetings Pete Bake Pizza not war! --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From macmechanic at fastmail.fm Fri May 27 14:44:10 2005 From: macmechanic at fastmail.fm (Rene Borgella) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:44:10 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] OT -- Spotlight In-Reply-To: <508FF16B-7401-4845-9C0F-A35918F9606B@wideopenwest.com> References: <508FF16B-7401-4845-9C0F-A35918F9606B@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: Hi all: > >There are a few other gripes, e.g., the Finder >Find is crippled since it is Spotlight based and >won't look into ``hidden'' folders like /bin/. >I'm back to using Locator, which uses the locate >database (updated automatically by Macaroni >every week), to do those kinds of searches. from a friend regarding if you want to turn Spotlight off: if you want Spotlight really off you have to edit /etc/hostconfig and change the line that reads 'SPOTLIGHT=-YES-' to 'SPOTLIGHT=-NO-'. The best way of doing it might be to escalate to a root shell and use vi. also see HTH Ren? --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Fri May 27 16:21:55 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:21:55 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [OT] Mail & Top Posting In-Reply-To: <73C25163-8AA6-451A-BD2F-62B90A6C9216@wideopenwest.com> References: <508FF16B-7401-4845-9C0F-A35918F9606B@wideopenwest.com> <73C25163-8AA6-451A-BD2F-62B90A6C9216@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: <9309CAA7-3E96-4060-B0C3-3629B7432682@mac.com> Le 27 mai 05 ? 19:38, Herbert Schulz a ?crit : > I know that and I thought I heard that there was an option > somewhere to Export the mailboxes and that would produce an .mbox > file. I can't find it now... but the last message on discussions.info.apple.com/webx?13 at 385.pb9gaso8YoL.0@.68b06d6a/1> > is not very encouraging. Not sure what it's worth, but: . In any case it's just a script, that a developer could probably look at to see what it's doing. It's apparently written in Ruby, though I've no idea what sort of scripting language that is. Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 27 16:28:12 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:28:12 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] [OT] Mail & Top Posting In-Reply-To: <9309CAA7-3E96-4060-B0C3-3629B7432682@mac.com> References: <508FF16B-7401-4845-9C0F-A35918F9606B@wideopenwest.com> <73C25163-8AA6-451A-BD2F-62B90A6C9216@wideopenwest.com> <9309CAA7-3E96-4060-B0C3-3629B7432682@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 27, 2005, at 3:21 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > Le 27 mai 05 ? 19:38, Herbert Schulz a ?crit : > > >> I know that and I thought I heard that there was an option >> somewhere to Export the mailboxes and that would produce an .mbox >> file. I can't find it now... but the last message on > discussions.info.apple.com/webx?13 at 385.pb9gaso8YoL.0@.68b06d6a/1> >> is not very encouraging. >> > > Not sure what it's worth, but: . > > In any case it's just a script, that a developer could probably > look at to see what it's doing. It's apparently written in Ruby, > though I've no idea what sort of scripting language that is. > > Bruno Howdy, Thanks! I just downloaded the file and will take a look at it. If it's really self-contained a Dropscript would work nicely. I've no reason to leave Mail but it's nice to know that there is a way to save back to .mbox format just in case. I read that the .emlx format is definitely not new, about 20+ years old, so this isn't totally random. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Fri May 27 16:35:07 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:35:07 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [OT] Mail & Top Posting In-Reply-To: <9309CAA7-3E96-4060-B0C3-3629B7432682@mac.com> References: <508FF16B-7401-4845-9C0F-A35918F9606B@wideopenwest.com> <73C25163-8AA6-451A-BD2F-62B90A6C9216@wideopenwest.com> <9309CAA7-3E96-4060-B0C3-3629B7432682@mac.com> Message-ID: Le 27 mai 05 ? 22:21, Bruno Voisin a ?crit : > Le 27 mai 05 ? 19:38, Herbert Schulz a ?crit : > >> I know that and I thought I heard that there was an option >> somewhere to Export the mailboxes and that would produce an .mbox >> file. I can't find it now... but the last message on > discussions.info.apple.com/webx?13 at 385.pb9gaso8YoL.0@.68b06d6a/1> >> is not very encouraging. > > Not sure what it's worth, but: . It's actually simpler than this. If you got into Mail Help, and look at "Exporting a message", you'll see at the end: "If you export multiple messages at once using the Raw Message Source option, the exported file is in mbox format, and you can reimport it into Mail or send it to someone else for their review. Only mbox format can be imported into other applications; rich text and plain text formats are useful for making backup copies of your mail." I just tried and it works: selecting for example a whole thread or the content of a whole mailbox, then "Save As..." and "Raw Message Source"; take the file so created, move it to ~/Library/Thunderbird/ Profiles/default.wai/Mail/Local Folders/, start Thunderbird. Voil?. The saved mailbox appears, and its content seems fine (I didn't try with attachments). I won't try though with my OS X TeX mailbox, as it's currently containing 23572 messages! Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Fri May 27 16:57:23 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 15:57:23 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] [OT] Mail & Top Posting In-Reply-To: References: <508FF16B-7401-4845-9C0F-A35918F9606B@wideopenwest.com> <73C25163-8AA6-451A-BD2F-62B90A6C9216@wideopenwest.com> <9309CAA7-3E96-4060-B0C3-3629B7432682@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 27, 2005, at 3:35 PM, Bruno Voisin wrote: > > It's actually simpler than this. If you got into Mail Help, and > look at "Exporting a message", you'll see at the end: > > "If you export multiple messages at once using the Raw Message > Source option, the exported file is in mbox format, and you can > reimport it into Mail or send it to someone else for their review. > Only mbox format can be imported into other applications; rich text > and plain text formats are useful for making backup copies of your > mail." > > I just tried and it works: selecting for example a whole thread or > the content of a whole mailbox, then "Save As..." and "Raw Message > Source"; take the file so created, move it to ~/Library/Thunderbird/ > Profiles/default.wai/Mail/Local Folders/, start Thunderbird. Voil?. > The saved mailbox appears, and its content seems fine (I didn't try > with attachments). > > I won't try though with my OS X TeX mailbox, as it's currently > containing 23572 messages! > > Bruno Howdy, And it gets even simpler!!! I just looked up mbox in Mail Help and found that you can use the above mentioned method or, for a mailbox: To create an mbox copy of a mailbox, drag the mailbox from the mailbox list to your desktop. Now that's simple! Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Fri May 27 16:57:40 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 22:57:40 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> Message-ID: <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> On 27 May 2005, at 17:39, Rodrigo Banuelos wrote: > I am sure the following problem has come up (and solved) before > but I have not been able to find it in the list. I installed Tex > (using > Gerben Wierda's i-installer) on a new machine before installing > Apple's > X11. Now, when I type "latex", "tex" or xdvi on an X11 terminal I > get back > "bash: latex: command not found," and the same for the others. I > know this > to do with bash vs tcsh but, what is the permanent solution? It does not have to do with bash vs tcsh. The problem is that xterm does not create login shells, but subshells only and as a result parts of the initialization (e.g. /etc/csh.login) are not read at all. Since the TeX i-Package has modified the shell login scripts, you do not get the right PATH. The solutions in the other replies (re-run TeX i-Package configure) will not help. There is (or at least I do not know) no generic file I could patch for X11 that would change this for *all* users. And the TeX install I provide is multi-user. Maybe some X11 guru can finally tell me how to do this system-wide. Maybe there is some personal .xinit file where you can change environment settings. I do not use X11, so I do not have the knowledge. G --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Fri May 27 17:02:21 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:02:21 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [OT] Tiger In-Reply-To: <508FF16B-7401-4845-9C0F-A35918F9606B@wideopenwest.com> References: <508FF16B-7401-4845-9C0F-A35918F9606B@wideopenwest.com> Message-ID: On 27 May 2005, at 15:57, Herbert Schulz wrote: > P.S. In all previous reincarnations of OS X I was able to get away > with a nice stable system by simply doing an Update. With Tiger I > ended up doing an Archive & Install because of the horrible > instability I was seeing. Spending most of a day figuring out what > I had to carry over from the Previous System folder was a pain but > things where better although one more thing really helped out (and > Spotlight helped me find the information which I forgot I had!). > Delete everything in your ~/Library/Preferences/ByHost/ directory. > Anything that is needed will be recreated. I had to reset a few > Preferences, e.g., my Screen Saver, but things have been much > better since I did that. For Tiger Server update is currently the only way. Apple also offers a 'migration' set of instructions, but these are buggy as well (e.g. you install a fresh Tiger server and find out that the mail system cannot handle nor convert your old mail database you want to migrate, something that does work under Update because then it converts when the old programs are still around. I provide mail services for a few family members, so I need to be careful not to corrupt their mail. Let's hope a 10.4.1 Full CD will find its way to my snail mail box soon. G --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Fri May 27 17:09:54 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 23:09:54 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [OT] Mail & Top Posting In-Reply-To: References: <508FF16B-7401-4845-9C0F-A35918F9606B@wideopenwest.com> <73C25163-8AA6-451A-BD2F-62B90A6C9216@wideopenwest.com> <9309CAA7-3E96-4060-B0C3-3629B7432682@mac.com> Message-ID: Le 27 mai 05 ? 22:57, Herbert Schulz a ?crit : > And it gets even simpler!!! I just looked up mbox in Mail Help and > found that you can use the above mentioned method or, for a mailbox: > > To create an mbox copy of a mailbox, drag the mailbox from the > mailbox list to your desktop. > > Now that's simple! Alas that's not creating an mbox file, but a .mbox directory containing the messages in individual .emlx format (there will possibly be an mbox file if that's a pre-Tiger mbox imported in Tiger). Thus, in fact it's only putting on the Desktop a copy of the .mbox directory from ~/Library/Mail/. Bruno--------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Fri May 27 17:17:01 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:17:01 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> Message-ID: <63d3504e8853b4d7554adff8cd74b4d2@msrce.howard.edu> On May 27, 2005, at 4:57 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote: > On 27 May 2005, at 17:39, Rodrigo Banuelos wrote: > >> I am sure the following problem has come up (and solved) before >> but I have not been able to find it in the list. I installed Tex >> (using >> Gerben Wierda's i-installer) on a new machine before installing >> Apple's >> X11. Now, when I type "latex", "tex" or xdvi on an X11 terminal I >> get back >> "bash: latex: command not found," and the same for the others. I >> know this >> to do with bash vs tcsh but, what is the permanent solution? > > It does not have to do with bash vs tcsh. The problem is that xterm > does not create login shells, but subshells only and as a result parts > of the initialization (e.g. /etc/csh.login) are not read at all. Since > the TeX i-Package has modified the shell login scripts, you do not get > the right PATH. > > The solutions in the other replies (re-run TeX i-Package configure) > will not help. > > There is (or at least I do not know) no generic file I could patch for > X11 that would change this for *all* users. And the TeX install I > provide is multi-user. > > Maybe some X11 guru can finally tell me how to do this system-wide. > Maybe there is some personal .xinit file where you can change > environment settings. I do not use X11, so I do not have the > knowledge. Not a real solution, but there is no reason to run a shell from within X11. Xterm looks bad and anything you need to do within X can be done from an Apple terminal window as long as the DISPLAY environmental variable is set properly. IMO, time would be better served modifying startx to *not* automatically start xterm in the first place, that way there is no temptation to use it. Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ealdrov at zeno.math.fsu.edu Fri May 27 17:22:43 2005 From: ealdrov at zeno.math.fsu.edu (Ettore Aldrovandi) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:22:43 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> Message-ID: <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 10:57:40PM +0200, Gerben Wierda wrote: > On 27 May 2005, at 17:39, Rodrigo Banuelos wrote: > >I know this to do with bash vs tcsh but, what is the permanent > >solution? > It does not have to do with bash vs tcsh. The problem is that > xterm does not create login shells, but subshells only and as a > result parts of the initialization (e.g. /etc/csh.login) are > not read at all. Since the TeX i-Package has modified the shell > login scripts, you do not get the right PATH. > There is (or at least I do not know) no generic file I could > patch for X11 that would change this for *all* users. And the > TeX install I provide is multi-user. /etc/csh.cshrc is read by non login shells. /etc/bashrc is read by interactive shells, I'm not sure if non-login--but I don't use bash, so I can't say precisely. (In scripts I invoke it as /bin/sh anyway.) So one could set the path there, although that's probably an inelegant solution. A more elegant solution could be to set the path in the .MacOSX/environment.plist file. In that way the correct environment would be inherited by X11.app and its children (via xinit). > Maybe some X11 guru can finally tell me how to do this > system-wide. Maybe there is some personal .xinit file where > you can change environment settings. I do not use X11, so I do > not have the knowledge. Well, I'm not a guru. Anyway, X executes the user's .xinitrc or, missing that, /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc. In the default configuration the latter starts an xterm and execs quartz-wm. It is a /bin/sh script, hence it's perfectly conceivable to set the path there, like: PATH="$PATH:/usr/local/" export PATH I used to have this in my own .xinitrc, to add Darwinports plus other stuff, but later on I erased it in favor of a stock system-wide xinitrc plus .MacOSX/environment.plist. Hope this helps -- Ettore Aldrovandi Department of Mathematics http://www.math.fsu.edu/~ealdrov Florida State University aldrovandi at math.fsu.edu Tallahassee, FL 32306-4510, USA +1 (850) 644-9717 (FAX: 4053) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From cgoedde at condor.depaul.edu Fri May 27 18:13:50 2005 From: cgoedde at condor.depaul.edu (Chris Goedde) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:13:50 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Auto-abort in TeXShop Message-ID: Hi all, Is there a way to "auto-abort" in TeXShop? By this I mean have TeXShop automatically act as if the "Abort" button in the console window was pressed whenever there is an error in texing a file? Chris --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From post at vatolin.de Fri May 27 19:14:55 2005 From: post at vatolin.de (Friedrich Vosberg) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 01:14:55 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] What encoding should I use? Message-ID: Hi. I'm using MacOSRoman since years. I think it would be more compatibel if I would use UTF-8 (or somewhat in that kind). How can I switch my whole TeX-system including all templates, sty- and lco-files etc. completely to that encoding (by one click ;-)? Does it make sense? Thanks in advance and kind regards. Friedrich -- Der Himmel ist dort, wo die Polizisten Briten sind, die K?che Franzosen, die Mechaniker Deutsche, die Liebhaber Italiener und alles von Schweizern organisiert wird. Die H?lle ist dort, wo die K?che Briten sind, die Mechaniker Franzosen, die Liebhaber Schweizer und die Polizisten Deutsche und alles von Italienern organisiert wird. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Fri May 27 20:14:10 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:14:10 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> Message-ID: <7B317CAF-84DE-46C7-95D7-E25325B6AB61@mac.com> On May 27, 2005, at 13:57, Gerben Wierda wrote: > On 27 May 2005, at 17:39, Rodrigo Banuelos wrote: > > >> I am sure the following problem has come up (and solved) before >> but I have not been able to find it in the list. I installed Tex >> (using >> Gerben Wierda's i-installer) on a new machine before installing >> Apple's >> X11. Now, when I type "latex", "tex" or xdvi on an X11 terminal I >> get back >> "bash: latex: command not found," and the same for the others. I >> know this >> to do with bash vs tcsh but, what is the permanent solution? >> > > It does not have to do with bash vs tcsh. The problem is that xterm > does not create login shells, but subshells only and as a result > parts of the initialization (e.g. /etc/csh.login) are not read at > all. Since the TeX i-Package has modified the shell login scripts, > you do not get the right PATH. > > The solutions in the other replies (re-run TeX i-Package configure) > will not help. > > There is (or at least I do not know) no generic file I could patch > for X11 that would change this for *all* users. And the TeX install > I provide is multi-user. > > Maybe some X11 guru can finally tell me how to do this system-wide. > Maybe there is some personal .xinit file where you can change > environment settings. I do not use X11, so I do not have the > knowledge. You can replace `xterm` with `xterm -ls` in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc to start the first xterm as a login shell. You should also change your X11 "Terminal" menu command to run xterm -ls, as well, so future shells will be login shells, but this writes to NSUserDefaults. Users can also create a custom .xinitrc in their home directory to override the system one. -- Adam --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Fri May 27 20:12:31 2005 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 02:12:31 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Flashmode 2.1 Message-ID: The three variants of Flashmode are now bundled into one package containing Flashmode (BBEdit/TeXniscope), Flashmode-TS (TeXShop) and Flashmode-ITM (iTeXMac). Flashmode-TS works with the present regular version of TS 2.03 (downloaded later than May 24) and with the yet to come TS 1.41. Current users of Flashmode will automatically receive an upgrade. Claus --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bilalbarakat at web.de Fri May 27 21:09:53 2005 From: bilalbarakat at web.de (Bilal Barakat) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 02:09:53 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] custom bib styles in bibdesk Message-ID: >> Apologies for the daft question, but where do I need to put new .bst >> bibliography style files in order for them to be available in >> BibDesk's preview? >> > > /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/bibtex/bst/ > ~/Library/texmf/bibtex/bst/ > > Both are secure, the first one needs a texhash. > > -- > Greetings > > Pete Thanks to all who responded with helpful suggestions. Unfortunately, none of these work for me. I've tried both these locations, and also placed the new .bst next to the _only_ place where one of those styles that do in fact show up in BibDesk's list is located on my drive, but no luck, despite texhash and relaunching BibDesk. Tried the whole thing with different .bst files and also tried entering the name directly in the preview preference pane's style field, but nothing works. Any idea what might be broken? I'm running the most recent version of BibDesk on 10.3.9 and am using the i-installer teTeX installation. Best, Bilal. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Fri May 27 21:16:31 2005 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 03:16:31 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] custom bib styles in bibdesk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2BA08BFC-73FF-497D-88BB-4CE5A97918D4@math.uni-heidelberg.de> I think you have to enter the name of the .bst style file directly into the little field "BibTeX Style" in the Preferences/Preview. At least I did and it works. However your entry won't stick, if you change it. Claus On May 27, 2005, at 11:52, Bilal Barakat wrote: > Apologies for the daft question, but where do I need to put > new .bst bibliography style files in order for them to be available > in BibDesk's preview? > I've tried the ~/Library/texmf tree, the /usr/local/teTeX/share .. > texmf tree, rehashed with texhash, all to no avail. Maybe I'm > missing something obvious.... > > Bilal. > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 28 04:37:11 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 10:37:11 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] What encoding should I use? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 28.05.2005 um 01:14 schrieb Friedrich Vosberg: > I'm using MacOSRoman since years. I think it would be more compatibel > if I would use UTF-8 (or somewhat in that kind). How can I switch my > whole TeX-system including all templates, sty- and lco-files etc. > completely to that encoding (by one click ;-)? > > Does it make sense? > Not yet! TeX still can't use UTF-8, is resticted to 8 bit short characters. Dominik Unruh's Unicode package enables the use of UTF-8 in a TeX document, but makes it unusable at places without this add-on. Only XeTeX, still restricted to Mac OS X, uses UTF-8 natively. Going away from MacRoman disables the use of any Carbon Emacs. They're only good when using Mac encodings. A droplet that uses recode can do the conversion for you, if you want to stay away from the command line, but probably there are too some other and real Mac OS X applications for that use. I switched to ISO Latin encodings, no. 1 (ISO 8859-1) and more no. 9 (ISO 8859-15). It's very seldom that I'd need UTF-8. Using TS1 (TextCompanionEncoding) I have a lot of macros that I can use to select glyphs from outside the ISO Latin world. -- Mit friedvollen Gr??en Pete Banken sprengen hei?t Sonne rein lassen. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From phbrf at t-online.de Sat May 28 05:23:54 2005 From: phbrf at t-online.de (Peter Breitfeld) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 11:23:54 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] What encoding should I use? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Am 28. Mai 2005 um 01:14 schrieb Friedrich Vosberg: > Hi. > > I'm using MacOSRoman since years. I think it would be more compatibel > if I would use UTF-8 (or somewhat in that kind). How can I switch my > whole TeX-system including all templates, sty- and lco-files etc. > completely to that encoding (by one click ;-)? > > Does it make sense? > I use gw-TeX with utf-8 and Emacs. You will need some more clicks to migrate. But you don't have to change anything in the .sty etc files of \texmf, because it's all English and plain ascii. The only thing I did was to \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} in my LaTeX-Files. Before I used latin-1 encoding, so I had to to translate all my .tex-Files to utf-8 using iconv. Gru? Peter -- ===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-== Peter Breitfeld | http://www.pBreitfeld.de Kreuzgasse 4, 88348 Bad Saulgau | PGP/GnuPG Key ist vorhanden ===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-== --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From johan at almqvist.net Sat May 28 05:29:47 2005 From: johan at almqvist.net (Johan Almqvist) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 11:29:47 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] What encoding should I use? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On May 28, 2005, at 10:37, Peter Dyballa wrote: > Am 28.05.2005 um 01:14 schrieb Friedrich Vosberg: >> I'm using MacOSRoman since years. I think it would be more >> compatibel if I would use UTF-8 (or somewhat in that kind). How >> can I switch my whole TeX-system including all templates, sty- and >> lco-files etc. completely to that encoding (by one click ;-)? >> >> Does it make sense? > Not yet! TeX still can't use UTF-8, is resticted to 8 bit short > characters. Dominik Unruh's Unicode package enables the use of > UTF-8 in a TeX document, but makes it unusable at places without > this add-on. Only XeTeX, still restricted to Mac OS X, uses UTF-8 > natively. I don't see this? I use \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} and everything works fine (I use it basically because I am writing in English, and have Swedish, Norwegian and Serbo-Croatian names in my text (inluding BibTeX) -- which problems would I have? And as opposed to MacOSRoman, utf-8 is portable. > Going away from MacRoman disables the use of any Carbon Emacs. > They're only good when using Mac encodings. OK I don't use Emacs, I mostly use TeXShop and TextWrangler. > A droplet that uses recode can do the conversion for you, if you > want to stay away from the command line, but probably there are too > some other and real Mac OS X applications for that use. Regarding the actual conversion, I don't think there is much work to do. All 'normal' TeX files that are installed by the packages are 7- bit clean anyway, so it'd just be the files you have created yourself. -Johan -- Johan Almqvist johan at almqvist.net --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From phbrf at t-online.de Sat May 28 05:38:05 2005 From: phbrf at t-online.de (Peter Breitfeld) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 11:38:05 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> Message-ID: Am 27. Mai 2005 um 23:22 schrieb Ettore Aldrovandi: > On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 10:57:40PM +0200, Gerben Wierda wrote: >> On 27 May 2005, at 17:39, Rodrigo Banuelos wrote: > >>> I know this to do with bash vs tcsh but, what is the permanent >>> solution? > >> It does not have to do with bash vs tcsh. The problem is that >> xterm does not create login shells, but subshells only and as a >> result parts of the initialization (e.g. /etc/csh.login) are >> not read at all. Since the TeX i-Package has modified the shell >> login scripts, you do not get the right PATH. > >> There is (or at least I do not know) no generic file I could >> patch for X11 that would change this for *all* users. And the >> TeX install I provide is multi-user. > > /etc/csh.cshrc > > is read by non login shells. > > /etc/bashrc > > is read by interactive shells, I'm not sure if non-login--but I > don't use bash, so I can't say precisely. (In scripts I invoke it > as /bin/sh anyway.) > > So one could set the path there, although that's probably an > inelegant solution. > > A more elegant solution could be to set the path in the > .MacOSX/environment.plist file. In that way the correct > environment would be inherited by X11.app and its children (via > xinit). That's about what I have on my system. The PATH is in .MACOSX/environment.plist, then I have a .bashrc wich is a link to .profile; this way login-shells and interactive shells behave the same. In .bashrc I read in the PATH with export PATH=$(defaults read "${HOME}/.MacOSX/environment" PATH) No login-shells, interactive shells and X11's xterm know the PATH as well as Carbon-Emacs. Gru? Peter -- ===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-== Peter Breitfeld | http://www.pBreitfeld.de Kreuzgasse 4, 88348 Bad Saulgau | PGP/GnuPG Key ist vorhanden ===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-== --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 28 06:06:18 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:06:18 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> Message-ID: <8147951240ddda9303f0d887f459a835@Web.DE> Am 28.05.2005 um 11:38 schrieb Peter Breitfeld: > export PATH=$(defaults read "${HOME}/.MacOSX/environment" PATH) > Good statement! -- Mit friedvollen Gr??en <] Pete o __o |__ o recumbo ___o /I -\<, |o \ -\),-% ergo sum! ___/\ /\___./ \___...O/ O____.....`-O-'-()--o_________________ --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 28 06:17:06 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:17:06 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] What encoding should I use? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2a27ff472dc0d48206cbd5f9253a660d@Web.DE> Am 28.05.2005 um 11:29 schrieb Johan Almqvist: > I use \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} and everything works fine Don't you have to input ^^c3^^a4^^c3^^b6^^c3^^bc instead of ???? -- Greetings Pete "A mathematician is a machine that turns coffee into theorems." --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From peter.pagin at philosophy.su.se Sat May 28 06:34:18 2005 From: peter.pagin at philosophy.su.se (Peter Pagin) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 12:34:18 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] What encoding should I use? In-Reply-To: <2a27ff472dc0d48206cbd5f9253a660d@Web.DE> References: <2a27ff472dc0d48206cbd5f9253a660d@Web.DE> Message-ID: <4298492A.5030904@philosophy.su.se> No. As Johan says, everything does work fine. Best, Peter Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 28.05.2005 um 11:29 schrieb Johan Almqvist: > >> I use \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} and everything works fine > > > Don't you have to input ^^c3^^a4^^c3^^b6^^c3^^bc instead of ???? > > -- > Greetings > > Pete > > "A mathematician is a machine that turns coffee into theorems." > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no Sat May 28 07:37:33 2005 From: Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no (Jonas Wellendorf) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 11:37:33 +0000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Unwanted =?iso-8859-1?q?=F8_when_writing_o/?= Message-ID: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> Hi I use the bibdesk (UTF-8 encoding) in combination with xelatex. When I enter the sequence o/ in a title in bibdesk the result in the compiled file is ?. How do I avoid this? Thank you, Jonas --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mh at michael-hoppe.de Sat May 28 08:16:28 2005 From: mh at michael-hoppe.de (Michael Hoppe) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 14:16:28 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> Message-ID: Dear colleagues, after trying to add the benefit of font expansion to the Euler-fonts, pdflatex gives up, because 65536 words of extra memory for PDF output are not enough. In those good ol' Atari-day there was a bigTeX-Version with more memory available. Is there a bigpdflatex as well? Michael -- -= Michael Hoppe , =----- -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ealdrov at zeno.math.fsu.edu Sat May 28 09:46:39 2005 From: ealdrov at zeno.math.fsu.edu (Ettore Aldrovandi) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 09:46:39 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> Message-ID: <20050528134639.GA23686@math.fsu.edu> On Sat, May 28, 2005 at 11:38:05AM +0200, Peter Breitfeld wrote: > > export PATH=$(defaults read "${HOME}/.MacOSX/environment" PATH) > > No login-shells, interactive shells and X11's xterm know the PATH as > well as Carbon-Emacs. An elegant solution. Setting .MacOSX/environment.plist takes care not only of X11.app but also, among other things, Carbon-Emacs, as you mention. The problem with .MacOSX/environment.plist is that it relies on the user to set it up in the appropriate way. Gerben wants a system-wide solution for X11.app--and he's right. That's way I also suggested to edit /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc. The question is, if a user has set a .xinitrc, then will the global one be executed? I haven't checked this. On the other hand, here is a kludge. Open X11.app with open -a X11 from the command line. This way it will inherit the correct environment. Works for carbon-emacs too. No need to modify other files. Another system-wide kludge is the following. Force each xterm to run a login shell by setting the appropriate resource in /etc/X11/app-defaults. -- Ettore Aldrovandi Department of Mathematics http://www.math.fsu.edu/~ealdrov Florida State University aldrovandi at math.fsu.edu Tallahassee, FL 32306-4510, USA +1 (850) 644-9717 (FAX: 4053) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From johan at almqvist.net Sat May 28 10:38:29 2005 From: johan at almqvist.net (Johan Almqvist) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 16:38:29 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] What encoding should I use? In-Reply-To: <2a27ff472dc0d48206cbd5f9253a660d@Web.DE> References: <2a27ff472dc0d48206cbd5f9253a660d@Web.DE> Message-ID: <3636B4A7-5FD5-4281-AF55-3A758927DFF0@almqvist.net> On May 28, 2005, at 12:17, Peter Dyballa wrote: > Am 28.05.2005 um 11:29 schrieb Johan Almqvist: > >> I use \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} and everything works fine >> > Don't you have to input ^^c3^^a4^^c3^^b6^^c3^^bc instead of ???? > Not if I use a UTF-8-aware text editor such as TeXShop, TextWrangler, BBEdit or vim. TextEdit doesn't work, for example. -Johan -- Johan Almqvist johan at almqvist.net --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From stephenmoye at cox.net Sat May 28 11:45:40 2005 From: stephenmoye at cox.net (stephenmoye at cox.net) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 11:45:40 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Unwanted =?iso-8859-1?q?=F8?= when writing o/ Message-ID: <20050528154540.LHAA10612.lakermmtao12.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> > From: Jonas Wellendorf > Date: 2005/05/28 Sat AM 07:37:33 EDT > To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List > Subject: [OS X TeX] Unwanted ? when writing o/ > > Hi > I use the bibdesk (UTF-8 encoding) in combination with xelatex. > > When I enter the sequence o/ in a title in bibdesk the result in the > compiled file is ?. How do I avoid this? Are you using Hoefler? There are some flaws in that typeface, one of which is that 'o/' forms a smart ligature oslash. I think that there are other combinations that have similar problems. I you look at the xetex discussion archive you will find more information there. I was caught by the same bug. Stephen Moye --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 28 12:12:22 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 18:12:22 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <20050528134639.GA23686@math.fsu.edu> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> <20050528134639.GA23686@math.fsu.edu> Message-ID: <50722c3abf292d5d946b03209f760f2c@Web.DE> Am 28.05.2005 um 15:46 schrieb Ettore Aldrovandi: > The question is, if a user has set a .xinitrc, then will the global > one be > executed? I haven't checked this. When the user has an own .xinitrc the 'template' /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc will *not* be executed. Except it contains a statement like '. /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc' ... but that's far away from a good solution. '. /etc/profile' might work better, > Another system-wide kludge is the following. Force each xterm to > run a login shell by setting the appropriate resource in > /etc/X11/app-defaults. > Or you rename xterm to xterm.bin and create a shell script xterm that invokes xterm.bin with -ls. This brings some inconvenience: 'xterm -e ' won't work -- it's the same as in Emacs why one can't create a login shell to check the environment! (If someone would want to launch an xterm to execute some script or such, it would have to be then 'xterm.bin -e .') The X resource for xterm to start with a login shell is: XTerm*loginShell: true But again: the users' .xinitrc files need to load the file with that setting! The directory /etc/X11/app-defaults is *not* automatically searched for files containing X resources, the environment variable XAPPLRESDIR needs to be set to this value before. If the environment has the variable XENVIRONMENT set, pointing to a file, this file is automatically used to set the X11 run-time environment too. (X11 is an almost as old hack as TeX is. Or Emacs.) The easiest way is to maintain ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist, I think. The file's manipulation with Perl should be easy, so a little script could help us maintain that file ... -- Greetings Pete "They're putting dimes in the hole in my head to see the change in me." --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 28 12:15:05 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 18:15:05 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> Message-ID: Am 28.05.2005 um 14:16 schrieb Michael Hoppe: > pdflatex gives up, because 65536 words of extra memory for PDF output > are not enough pdf_mem_size is the setting. /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf should be the right file. Set pdf_mem_size to a value twice as much first, i.e. 131072. Doubling the value in each step should be fine. -- Mit friedvollen Gr??en Pete Wenn man die Redlichkeit eines Politikers allzu laut betont, zweifelt man an seinen F?higkeiten. (Charles Maurice de Talleyrand) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no Sat May 28 12:33:10 2005 From: Jonas.Wellendorf at cms.uib.no (Jonas Wellendorf) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 16:33:10 +0000 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?q?Re=3A_=5BOS_X_TeX=5D_Unwanted_=F8_when_writing_o/?= In-Reply-To: <20050528154540.LHAA10612.lakermmtao12.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> References: <20050528154540.LHAA10612.lakermmtao12.cox.net@smtp.east.cox.net> Message-ID: P? 28. mai. 2005 kl. 15.45 skrev : > Are you using Hoefler? There are some flaws in that typeface, one of > which is > that 'o/' forms a smart ligature oslash. I think that there are other > combinations that have similar problems. I you look at the xetex > discussion > archive you will find more information there. I was caught by the same > bug. Thank you. I do use Hoefler, Jonas --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Christopher.T.Allen.95 at Alum.Dartmouth.ORG Sat May 28 15:45:50 2005 From: Christopher.T.Allen.95 at Alum.Dartmouth.ORG (Christopher Allen) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 15:45:50 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Multicol help Message-ID: <26b5560f760a594b9c939dcdc9e85d50@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG> I've been playing around with multicol some, cleaning up output, but I'm still running into a few problems I cannot solve. I had two problems that were bothering me initially: 1) I have a three-column list that it itemized (using enumerate). Every item is of exactly the same size. I want all of the items to line up across the page. But extra space is placed between the items in the final column. 2) On the final page of several two-column pages the second column didn't start at the top of the page. In an alternate version of the document this problem shows up repeatedly through the document, and sometimes in the first column of a page. I should mention I'm using \raggedcolumns; not using it spaces things very poorly since they're contained in minipage sections to guarantee individual sections are not broken apart. Things I've fixed: 1) I set finalcolumnbadness to -1. My impression is that this would stop multicol from adding the white space between my items in the right-most column. It seemed to work great... until I looked at the alternate version. There it did nothing noticeable; the extra space between items is still being added. 2) I used multicols* instead of multicol. This seemed to work great... until I looked at the alternate version. In the alternate version it did fix some of the column tops, but some of the column tops are still not correct. Has anyone encountered this before? Does anyone know what to do with it? I know I can manually go through with \columnbreak to fix this. However, I'm loathe to do that since I have many \ifthenelse statements so that a number of variants can be produced. Thanks, Chris --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 28 17:04:39 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 23:04:39 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Multicol help In-Reply-To: <26b5560f760a594b9c939dcdc9e85d50@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG> References: <26b5560f760a594b9c939dcdc9e85d50@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG> Message-ID: <1b8683eb5826de0082ccf2f25bfc5e36@Web.DE> Am 28.05.2005 um 21:45 schrieb Christopher Allen: > I've been playing around with multicol some, cleaning up output, but > I'm still running into a few problems I cannot solve. > What about something different? \usepackage{array,ragged2e,longtable} \newenvironment{longtable}[1]{\begin{tabular}{#1}}{\end{tabular}} \begin{longtable}{rl>{\RaggedRight}p{135mm}} & \multicolumn{2}{l}{\Huge\so{Peter Dyballa}}\\[8.75mm] \rule{9.375mm}{0mm}\textbf{\textit{Zur Person}} & \multicolumn{2}{l}{Nationalit?t: deutsch}\\[.75mm] & \multicolumn{2}{l}{nicht verheiratet}\\[1.25mm] \textbf{\textit{Schulen}} & 08/66 - 11/68 & Grundschule in Polen, 3. Klasse wg. Umsiedlung abgebrochen\\ \newpage \end{longtable} With longtable the table can stretch a few pages. Using the ragged2e package you can make columns be ragged and be a specified maximum wide. The example above is from my recent CV. The leftmost column is mostly empty, containing minor titles, the rightmost one is the one with text, up to two or three lines. The invisible ruler is necessary, otherwise the spacing of the leftmost column changes a few times. -- Mit friedvollen Gr??en Pete Mac OS X is like a wigwam: no fences, no gates, but an apache inside. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jan at linguist.umass.edu Sat May 28 17:26:59 2005 From: jan at linguist.umass.edu (Jan Anderssen) Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 17:26:59 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] What encoding should I use? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > The only thing I did was to \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} in my LaTeX- > Files. after reading all of your comments, i wanted to find out more about the limitations of utf-8 via inputenc. i found that it's not mentioned in the documentation generated from inputenc.dtx, but that you can generate documentation by running latex on utf8ienc.dtx, which can be found on ctan. the documentation is titled "Providing some UTF-8 support via inputenc", so it might be of interest if people encounter characters that don't seem to act appropriately. jan p.s. i recently switched to textwrangler and i'm very happy with it too. it compiles tex with the help of scripts (see f.i. maarten sneep's at http://www.nat.vu.nl/~sneep/tex/ or tom kiffe's http:// www.kiffe.com/textools.html), it has emacs key bindings, saves and opens files via (s)ftp, very nice :) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mh at michael-hoppe.de Sat May 28 18:05:01 2005 From: mh at michael-hoppe.de (Michael Hoppe) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 00:05:01 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> Message-ID: Thanks for your respond, Peter, but in > /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf there's no entry for > pdf_mem_size I've set it to your recommended value of >to a value twice as much first, i.e. 131072. but without any positive effect. So, pdf_mem_size ist set properly, but not used. What am I doing wrong? Michael -- -= Michael Hoppe , =----- -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sat May 28 18:16:02 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 00:16:02 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> Message-ID: <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> On 29 May 2005, at 0:05, Michael Hoppe wrote: > Thanks for your respond, Peter, but in > >> /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf > > there's no entry for > >> pdf_mem_size By default there isn't. > I've set it to your recommended value of > >> to a value twice as much first, i.e. 131072. > > but without any positive effect. So, pdf_mem_size ist set > properly, but not used. What am I doing wrong? did you do a 'sudo fmtutil --all' (no quotes)? Maarten. PS, I've enlarged my memory sizes to something a bit larger. The exact keys with default values can be found in /usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf Adding to main memory and/or extra_mem will usually suffice. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %% memory changes (Maarten Sneep) %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % Memory. Must be less than 8,000,000 total. % % For some xy-pic samples, you may need as much as 700000 words of memory. % For the vast majority of documents, 60000 or less will do. % main_memory = 2000000 % words of inimemory available; also applies to inimf&mp extra_mem_top = 2000000 % extra high memory for chars, tokens, etc. extra_mem_bot = 4000000 % extra low memory for boxes, glue, breakpoints, etc. % ConTeXt is a memory hog... extra_mem_top.context = 2000000 extra_mem_bot.context = 4000000 main_memory.context = 2000000 main_memory.mpost = 3000000 % Buffer size. TeX uses the buffer to contain input lines, but macro % expansion works by writing material into the buffer and reparsing the % line. As a consequence, certain constructs require the buffer to be % very large. As distributed, the size is 50000; most documents can be % handled within a tenth of this size. buf_size = 500000 hyph_size = 2000 % number of hyphenation exceptions, >610 and <32767. nest_size = 2500 % simultaneous semantic levels (e.g., groups) max_in_open = 15 % simultaneous input files and error insertions param_size = 5000 % simultaneous macro parameters save_size = 25000 % for saving values outside current group stack_size = 1500 % simultaneous input sources % Parameter specific to MetaPost. % Maximum number of knots between breakpoints of a path. % Set to 2000 by default. % path_size.mpost = 30000 --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sat May 28 18:20:44 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 00:20:44 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> Message-ID: <8c605ffaf7307c0ceeba166da9c96c21@Web.DE> Am 29.05.2005 um 00:05 schrieb Michael Hoppe: > but without any positive effect. So, pdf_mem_size ist set properly, > but not used. What am I doing wrong? > Has the error message changed, i.e. is it still using 65536 or the new value? -- Mit friedvollen Gr??en Pete "I wouldn't recommend sex, drugs or insanity for everyone, but they've always worked for me." -- Hunter S. Thompson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Sun May 29 02:15:12 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 08:15:12 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> Message-ID: <380051d57b9f2d69055cd5771be85bbe@rna.nl> On May 27, 2005, at 23:22, Ettore Aldrovandi wrote: > /etc/csh.cshrc > > is read by non login shells. I cannot use these as they would be read every time and every subshell call would add to the PATH once more. G --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Sun May 29 02:19:06 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 08:19:06 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> Message-ID: Just for the record: changing ~/.Mac OSX/environment.plist is something I generally warn against because it influences the environmen of *all* GUI apps (including for instance i-Installer) and has been known to break i-Installer and other apps (e.g. the server admin apps). The obvious solution for those apps would then become to hard code the environment, defeating the possibilty in the end. G On May 28, 2005, at 11:38, Peter Breitfeld wrote: > > Am 27. Mai 2005 um 23:22 schrieb Ettore Aldrovandi: > >> On Fri, May 27, 2005 at 10:57:40PM +0200, Gerben Wierda wrote: >>> On 27 May 2005, at 17:39, Rodrigo Banuelos wrote: >> >>>> I know this to do with bash vs tcsh but, what is the permanent >>>> solution? >> >>> It does not have to do with bash vs tcsh. The problem is that >>> xterm does not create login shells, but subshells only and as a >>> result parts of the initialization (e.g. /etc/csh.login) are >>> not read at all. Since the TeX i-Package has modified the shell >>> login scripts, you do not get the right PATH. >> >>> There is (or at least I do not know) no generic file I could >>> patch for X11 that would change this for *all* users. And the >>> TeX install I provide is multi-user. >> >> /etc/csh.cshrc >> >> is read by non login shells. >> >> /etc/bashrc >> >> is read by interactive shells, I'm not sure if non-login--but I >> don't use bash, so I can't say precisely. (In scripts I invoke it >> as /bin/sh anyway.) >> >> So one could set the path there, although that's probably an >> inelegant solution. >> >> A more elegant solution could be to set the path in the >> .MacOSX/environment.plist file. In that way the correct >> environment would be inherited by X11.app and its children (via >> xinit). > > That's about what I have on my system. The PATH is in > .MACOSX/environment.plist, then I have a .bashrc wich is a link to > .profile; this way login-shells and interactive shells behave the > same. In .bashrc I read in the PATH with > > export PATH=$(defaults read "${HOME}/.MacOSX/environment" PATH) > > No login-shells, interactive shells and X11's xterm know the PATH as > well as Carbon-Emacs. > > Gru? Peter > -- > ===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-== > Peter Breitfeld | http://www.pBreitfeld.de > Kreuzgasse 4, 88348 Bad Saulgau | PGP/GnuPG Key ist vorhanden > ===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-== > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 29 04:30:50 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:30:50 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> Message-ID: <0B42B96C-9DD3-4231-B850-9B0B16A5177B@mac.com> Apple has an X11 FAQ , which, unfortunately, doesn't mention much more than ~/.xinitrc, /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist. It also mentions, though, the command open-x11 to launch X11 applications from Terminal. Thus you can use in Terminal, for example, open-x11 xdvi and that will launch X11.app then xdvi inside it. I've just tried: when asking for the default path in the xterm that pops up in the process, you get: Portable-de-Bruno:~ brunovoisin$ echo $PATH /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/ powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin meaning that gwTeX directories are indeed seen. Why the duplicated / usr/X11R6/bin I don't know. Bruno Voisin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sun May 29 04:39:41 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:39:41 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <0B42B96C-9DD3-4231-B850-9B0B16A5177B@mac.com> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> <0B42B96C-9DD3-4231-B850-9B0B16A5177B@mac.com> Message-ID: <6b31332f08ccf23806f6389204a7c32f@Web.DE> Am 29.05.2005 um 10:30 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > Why the duplicated /usr/X11R6/bin I don't know. Check what you have in Terminal for PATH. Could be there it already has /usr/X11R6/bin appended, and open-x11 just adds it once more ... -- Greetings Pete There's something the technicians need to learn from the artists. If it isn't aesthetically pleasing, it's probably wrong. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 29 04:57:28 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 10:57:28 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <6b31332f08ccf23806f6389204a7c32f@Web.DE> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> <0B42B96C-9DD3-4231-B850-9B0B16A5177B@mac.com> <6b31332f08ccf23806f6389204a7c32f@Web.DE> Message-ID: Le 29 mai 05 ? 10:39, Peter Dyballa a ?crit : > Am 29.05.2005 um 10:30 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > >> Why the duplicated /usr/X11R6/bin I don't know. > > Check what you have in Terminal for PATH. Could be there it already > has /usr/X11R6/bin appended, and open-x11 just adds it once more ... Here the output of "echo $PATH" on my setup: - In Terminal: /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/ powerpc-apple-darwin-current - In X11, when started independently: /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin - In X11, when started from Terminal using open-x11, for example "open-x11 xeyes": /bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/ powerpc-apple-darwin-current:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin Confusing! But I imagine it's harmless. Bruno --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sun May 29 05:36:29 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:36:29 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> <0B42B96C-9DD3-4231-B850-9B0B16A5177B@mac.com> <6b31332f08ccf23806f6389204a7c32f@Web.DE> Message-ID: <931ce32e715ebc72d959f7413bd62ed0@Web.DE> Am 29.05.2005 um 10:57 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > - In X11, when started independently: > > /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin > Bruno, what do you mean by that? Just clicking on X11 in the Dock? Can it be that you have an own ~/.xinitrc file? Or does the system-wide /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc file contain a statement that augments PATH by /usr/X11R6/bin? Isn't Spotlight able to find the file with "/usr/X11R6/bin" in it? But it's true, doubling any component in PATH is not harmful at all! You might waste every day a few milliseconds ... (which can be a whole at you life's end?) -- Greetings Pete "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mh at michael-hoppe.de Sun May 29 05:56:29 2005 From: mh at michael-hoppe.de (Michael Hoppe) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:56:29 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Thanks, Martin, but the error persists even after an >did you do a 'sudo fmtutil --all' (no quotes)? Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: 6120 strings out of 95278 77107 string characters out of 1185894 2154116 words of memory out of 4609186 8643 multiletter control sequences out of 10000+50000 71390 words of font info for 301 fonts, out of 2000000 for 2000 14 hyphenation exceptions out of 1000 38i,13n,53p,275b,392s stack positions out of 5000i,500n,6000p,200000b,40000s PDF statistics: 54 PDF objects out of 300000 0 named destinations out of 131072 65291 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536 ! ==> Fatal error occurred, the output PDF file is not finished! I've put the following line pdf_mem_size = 131072 at the end of /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf. Or should I change /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf? Michael -- -= Michael Hoppe , =----- -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sun May 29 06:06:08 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 12:06:08 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Am 29.05.2005 um 11:56 schrieb Michael Hoppe: > Or should I change /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf? Could be ... pdfTeX still is a bit terra incognita to me. It makes at least more sense in that file when you're going to create formats. -- Mit friedvollen Gr??en Pete ?blicherweise begehen Menschen beim Entwerfen vollkommen narrensicherer Dinge gerne den Fehler, das Genie des Volltrottels zu untersch?tzen. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From bvoisin at mac.com Sun May 29 06:14:14 2005 From: bvoisin at mac.com (Bruno Voisin) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 12:14:14 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <931ce32e715ebc72d959f7413bd62ed0@Web.DE> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> <0B42B96C-9DD3-4231-B850-9B0B16A5177B@mac.com> <6b31332f08ccf23806f6389204a7c32f@Web.DE> <931ce32e715ebc72d959f7413bd62ed0@Web.DE> Message-ID: <98C058A0-9404-47D4-9ED5-F51676DFC9F2@mac.com> Le 29 mai 05 ? 11:36, Peter Dyballa a ?crit : > Am 29.05.2005 um 10:57 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > > >> - In X11, when started independently: >> >> /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin >> > > what do you mean by that? Just clicking on X11 in the Dock? > Yes. > Can it be that you have an own ~/.xinitrc file? > No. > Or does the system-wide /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc file contain a > statement that augments PATH by /usr/X11R6/bin? > Nope. > Isn't Spotlight able to find the file with "/usr/X11R6/bin" in it? > No, even after "mdimport -f /etc". But that's normal, as there's no importer available for the config files such as: Portable-de-Bruno:~ brunovoisin$ mdimport -d1 -f /private/etc/X11/ xinit/xinitrc 2005-05-29 12:11:15.922 mdimport[857] Import '/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc' type 'public.data' no mdimporter Portable-de-Bruno:~ brunovoisin$ mdimport -f -d1 /private/etc/X11/ rstart/contexts/x11r6 2005-05-29 12:11:44.990 mdimport[858] Import '/etc/X11/rstart/ contexts/x11r6' type 'public.data' no mdimporter even though, in particular, the second file contains: MISC POSIX PATH=:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/usr/ucb Bruno --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sun May 29 06:25:56 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 12:25:56 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> On 29 May 2005, at 11:56, Michael Hoppe wrote: > Thanks, Martin, but the error persists even after an > >> did you do a 'sudo fmtutil --all' (no quotes)? > > Here is how much of TeX's memory you used: > 65291 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536 Apparently not, or this is one of the parameters that is already at its max. > I've put the following line > > pdf_mem_size = 131072 > > at the end of /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf _if_ that is the right parameter, that should settle it. Big _if_ though, because I do not see this parameter in the standard configuration file. > Or should I change /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf? NO! this one will be irretrievably overwritten on a i-Installer rerun (an update or so). The other file will be replaced as well, but the copy you altered will be kept as a backup. The file you should alter overrides the other one. The reason that I mention this /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/ texmf.cnf file is that all possible parameters are listed there with comments and allowed limits. What is the exact error you get? Do you get an error from TeX itself? (this is before the piece you posted in the previous mail). Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From phbrf at t-online.de Sun May 29 06:31:12 2005 From: phbrf at t-online.de (Peter Breitfeld) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 12:31:12 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <0B42B96C-9DD3-4231-B850-9B0B16A5177B@mac.com> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> <0B42B96C-9DD3-4231-B850-9B0B16A5177B@mac.com> Message-ID: Am 29. Mai 2005 um 10:30 schrieb Bruno Voisin: > Apple has an X11 FAQ > , which, > unfortunately, doesn't mention much more than ~/.xinitrc, > /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc and ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist. > > It also mentions, though, the command open-x11 to launch X11 > applications from Terminal. Thus you can use in Terminal, for example, > > open-x11 xdvi open-x11 didn't work properly for me. E.g I couldn't launch xdvi from the AucTeX menu of carbon emacs. So I had to change it a little to a new script start-x11 which looks like this: ----------------------------------><--------------------- #!/bin/bash BASENAME=${0##*/} function usage() { cat < /dev/null if [ "$?" = "1" ]; then echo "Wait until X11 has started..." open -a X11.app sleep 3 fi # DISPLAY Variable ggf. setzen if [ "x$DISPAY" = "x" ]; then export DISPLAY=":0.0" fi # notwendige Pfade setzen: for d in /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/bin/X11 /usr/local/bin/X11 ; do if [ -d $d ]; then case $PATH in '') PATH=$d ;; $d|$d:*|*:$d|*:$d:*) : do nothing ;; *) PATH=$PATH:$d ;; esac fi done export PATH # Programm starten case $BASENAME in launch-xdvi) xdvi $@ ;; launch-gv) gv $@ ;; *) prog=$1; shift "$prog" "$@" & ;; esac ----------------------------------><--------------------- It first looks if X11 is running and starts it if not. Then it looks for the PATH as open-x11 does. The symlinks launch-x11 and launch-gv were used to start these apps in AucTeX. Gru? Peter -- ===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-== Peter Breitfeld | http://www.pBreitfeld.de Kreuzgasse 4, 88348 Bad Saulgau | PGP/GnuPG Key ist vorhanden ===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-===-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-== --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lp15 at cam.ac.uk Sun May 29 06:57:26 2005 From: lp15 at cam.ac.uk (Lawrence Paulson) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 11:57:26 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] cocoaspell Message-ID: I am trying to use cocoaspell again, but its suggestions mode sometimes gives about 50 suggestions, which is a struggle if you are trying to reach any other menu items. Is there any way to limit the number to about 10? Larry Paulson --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fstengel at mac.com Sun May 29 08:07:56 2005 From: fstengel at mac.com (Frank STENGEL) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 12:07:56 +0000 Subject: [OS X TeX] cocoaspell In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Le 29 mai 05 ? 10:57, Lawrence Paulson a ?crit : > I am trying to use cocoaspell again, but its suggestions mode > sometimes gives about 50 suggestions, which is a struggle if you > are trying to reach any other menu items. Is there any way to > limit the number to about 10? Have you reied fiddling with the options in the Spelling Preference Panel that is installed by cocoaspell? In my experience the fast or ultra-fast modes give only a minimal amount of choices... -- Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sun May 29 08:36:00 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 14:36:00 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <98C058A0-9404-47D4-9ED5-F51676DFC9F2@mac.com> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> <0B42B96C-9DD3-4231-B850-9B0B16A5177B@mac.com> <6b31332f08ccf23806f6389204a7c32f@Web.DE> <931ce32e715ebc72d959f7413bd62ed0@Web.DE> <98C058A0-9404-47D4-9ED5-F51676DFC9F2@mac.com> Message-ID: <59c98af4cab5ebbae1ee464f94ff901d@Web.DE> Am 29.05.2005 um 12:14 schrieb Bruno Voisin: >> >>> - In X11, when started independently: >>> >>> /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/X11R6/bin I think I've got it: it's the binary inside X11.app. When I'm applying strings to it I see: PATH %s:/usr/X11R6/bin So it's probably the X11 launcher that enhances the X11 environment with a necessary PATH component. -- Greetings Pete (: _ / __ - - _/ \__/_/ - - (?`) (?`) - - `? `? (I think this picture shows how I was sweating when I had to ride against the wind) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mh at michael-hoppe.de Sun May 29 08:20:10 2005 From: mh at michael-hoppe.de (Michael Hoppe) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 14:20:10 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: >What is the exact error you get? Do you get an error from TeX >itself? (this is before the piece you posted in the previous mail). It's: ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [PDF memory size (pdf_mem_size)=65536]. ...lpcode font at name MT at char =@tempcntb So pdf_mem_size seems to be the right parameter ... But one cannot find it in any texmf.cnf, though. Michael -- -= Michael Hoppe , =----- -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sun May 29 09:17:10 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:17:10 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: On 29 May 2005, at 14:20, Michael Hoppe wrote: >> What is the exact error you get? Do you get an error from TeX >> itself? (this is before the piece you posted in the previous mail). >> > > > > ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [PDF memory size (pdf_mem_size)=65536]. > ...lpcode font at name MT at char =@tempcntb > > So pdf_mem_size seems to be the right parameter ... But one cannot > find it in any texmf.cnf, though. Yes, that seems to be the right parameter. Searching for this parameter in Google suggests that it can be increased. syntax (just to be sure): pdf_mem_size = 524288 (or just simply the double amount compared to the default 65536, this value was suggested for Context, a known memory hog). Add the line to the file /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf and save the file. Then a "sudo fmtutil --all" must be issued from an administrator accout to actually get the bigger array in the TeX format files. Do you have a minimal test file that shows the problem? I've never encountered it, even though I've used font expansion before. Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Sun May 29 09:43:25 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 15:43:25 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> <0B42B96C-9DD3-4231-B850-9B0B16A5177B@mac.com> Message-ID: <9a9e07d15f5f8e90df4816632050e558@Web.DE> Am 29.05.2005 um 12:31 schrieb Peter Breitfeld: > for d in /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/bin/X11 /usr/local/bin/X11 ; do > You're not looking for /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current -- that's the directory that should contain xdvi from the tex i-Package ... -- Mit friedvollen Gr??en Pete ``How do we persuade new users that spreading fonts across the page like peanut butter across hot toast is not necessarily the route to typographic excellence?'' -- Peter Flynn --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mh at michael-hoppe.de Sun May 29 11:28:28 2005 From: mh at michael-hoppe.de (Michael Hoppe) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 17:28:28 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: >Yes, that seems to be the right parameter. Searching for this >parameter in Google suggests that it can be increased. Yes, I know that. >syntax (just to be sure): > >pdf_mem_size = 524288 > >(or just simply the double amount compared to the default 65536, >this value was suggested for Context, a known memory hog). > >Add the line to the file /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf and save the >file. Then a "sudo fmtutil --all" I did that -- but without any effect: the error message stays excactly the same: ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [PDF memory size (pdf_mem_size)=65536]. Strange, isn't it? >Do you have a minimal test file that shows the problem? No, it occurs only in long documents. To verify the error, include \usepackage{euler} or \usepackage{eulervm} in the preamble of a longer document and change in microtype.cfg the line \DeclareMicroTypeSet{allmath} { encoding = {T1,OT1,LY1,TS1,OML,OMS} } into \DeclareMicroTypeSet{allmath} { encoding = {T1,OT1,LY1,TS1,OML,OMS,U} } Together with \usepackage[verbose,expansion={alltext,allmath}]{microtype} you'll surely encounter the error. Or just try to increase pdf_mem_size in the way you described it an then have a look at the .log-file: it'll contain sime lines like PDF statistics: 536 PDF objects out of 300000 0 named destinations out of 131072 64352 words of extra memory for PDF output out of 65536 ^^^^^ despite you've changed that value a minute ago. But wait, now I see that not the value of pdf_mem_size was changed, but the one for the "named destinations" instead! Do you notice the value 131072? I've put pdf_mem_size = 131072 in texmf.cnf. Even weirder ... Michael -- -= Michael Hoppe , =----- -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Sun May 29 11:58:58 2005 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 17:58:58 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> It could be that this parameter is only taken into account when initex is run. Try creating a new format with the modified settings. Claus On May 29, 2005, at 17:28, Michael Hoppe wrote: > I did that -- but without any effect: the error message stays > excactly the same: > > ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [PDF memory size (pdf_mem_size)=65536]. > > Strange, isn't it? > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mh at michael-hoppe.de Sun May 29 15:48:47 2005 From: mh at michael-hoppe.de (Michael Hoppe) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 21:48:47 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Message-ID: >It could be that this parameter is only taken into account when >initex is run. Try creating a new format with the modified settings. Well, after changing pdf_mem_size to 131072 I ran sudo fmtutil --all That is supposed to create the formats, isn't it? Michael -- -= Michael Hoppe , =----- -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From costabel at wanadoo.fr Sun May 29 18:07:47 2005 From: costabel at wanadoo.fr (Martin Costabel) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 00:07:47 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Message-ID: <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> Michael Hoppe wrote: >> It could be that this parameter is only taken into account when initex >> is run. Try creating a new format with the modified settings. > > > Well, after changing pdf_mem_size to 131072 I ran > > sudo fmtutil --all > > That is supposed to create the formats, isn't it? The problem is that fmtutil is probably not seeing your changed texmf.cnf. Try "kpsewhich texmf.cnf"; this shows which one fmtutil will use. If it's not your changed one, you can first try to run "sudo mktexlsr /usr/local/teTeX" and see if this helps, but otherwise the simplest way is to replace the original texmf.cnf (after backing it up, of course) by your modified one. I am pretty sure that there is also a combination of a couple of TeX's 75 or so environment variables that will do the trick, but modifiying the original texmf.cnf is faster than even reading through the list of all possible environment variables. -- Martin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Sun May 29 18:31:01 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 00:31:01 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <902A3C14-00E0-4871-8C2D-0789E7D08C3F@xs4all.nl> On 30 May 2005, at 0:07, Martin Costabel wrote: > Michael Hoppe wrote: > >> Well, after changing pdf_mem_size to 131072 I ran >> sudo fmtutil --all >> That is supposed to create the formats, isn't it? >> > > The problem is that fmtutil is probably not seeing your changed > texmf.cnf. The texmf.cnf file I (and others) recommended to alter is the one intended to hold system wide user alterations, at least according to Gerben's instructions. I suppose he knows what he is talking about. Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ross at ics.mq.edu.au Sun May 29 19:34:18 2005 From: ross at ics.mq.edu.au (Ross Moore) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 09:34:18 +1000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Message-ID: <99390ca9fe65c32e4fe8f1ac52b010ff@maths.mq.edu.au> Hello Michael, On 30/05/2005, at 5:48 AM, Michael Hoppe wrote: >> It could be that this parameter is only taken into account when >> initex is run. Try creating a new format with the modified settings. > > Well, after changing pdf_mem_size to 131072 I ran > > sudo fmtutil --all > > That is supposed to create the formats, isn't it? With older versions of teTeX it wasn't necessary to rebuild the formats just to increase the amount of memory available. Here is the relevant section, and comments, from my installation: % Part 3: Array and other sizes for TeX (and Metafont and MetaPost). % % If you want to change some of these sizes only for a certain TeX % variant, the usual dot notation works, e.g., % main_memory.hugetex = 20000000 % % If a change here appears to be ignored, try redumping the format file. % %----------------------------------------------------------------- % Memory. Must be less than 8,000,000 total. % % main_memory is relevant only to initex, extra_mem_* only to non-ini. % Thus, have to redump the .fmt file after changing main_memory; to add % to existing fmt files, increase extra_mem_*. (To get an idea of how % much, try \tracingstats=2 in your TeX source file; % web2c/tests/memtest.tex might also be interesting.) % % To increase space for boxes (as might be needed by, e.g., PiCTeX), % increase extra_mem_bot. % % main_memory = 1500000 % words of inimemory available; also applies to inimf&mp extra_mem_bot = 0 % extra high memory for chars, tokens, etc. extra_mem_top = 2000000 % extra low memory for boxes, glue, breakpoints, etc. So if in your texmf.cnf file (the one found by: kpsewhich texmf.cnf ) you change the extra_mem_top parameter, if there is one, then it shouldn't be necessary to rebuild any formats. Hopefully it'll "just work". Here's the most telling piece of info that you have provided: >> >> ! TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [PDF memory size (pdf_mem_size)=65536]. >> ...lpcode font at name MT at char =@tempcntb >> >> So pdf_mem_size seems to be the right parameter ... But one cannot >> find it in any texmf.cnf, though. The failure occurs while using a 'microtype' font-name. I'd guess that the document is fine without Microtype, right ? The value of 65536 for a memory parameter is historical. It's quite inadequate for large documents using new features and macro packages now frequently used with pdf-TeX. Microtype is one such. Try increasing any such low values by a factor of 10 or more. Hope this helps, Ross > > Michael > > -- > -= Michael Hoppe , =----- > -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 > -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ross Moore ross at maths.mq.edu.au Mathematics Department office: E7A-419 Macquarie University tel: +61 +2 9850 8955 Sydney, Australia fax: +61 +2 9850 8114 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From ealdrov at zeno.math.fsu.edu Sun May 29 23:24:47 2005 From: ealdrov at zeno.math.fsu.edu (Ettore Aldrovandi) Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 23:24:47 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: <380051d57b9f2d69055cd5771be85bbe@rna.nl> References: <0479EBFE-289C-4CC9-92B2-1E1D3AB7F0D9@math.purdue.edu> <74B1DA38-AB74-45B6-B6B9-2B06ADAC62C2@rna.nl> <20050527212243.GC5964@math.fsu.edu> <380051d57b9f2d69055cd5771be85bbe@rna.nl> Message-ID: <20050530032446.GA810@math.fsu.edu> On Sun, May 29, 2005 at 08:15:12AM +0200, Gerben Wierda wrote: > On May 27, 2005, at 23:22, Ettore Aldrovandi wrote: > > >/etc/csh.cshrc > > > >is read by non login shells. > > I cannot use these as they would be read every time and every subshell > call would add to the PATH once more. > > G > Yes. If you inherit the PATH. Of course one could set an absolute path there, but that's bad. My PATH is set in .login, and in .MacOSX/environment.plist. I fear there is no perfect solution to fix the path in X11.app. The closest is probably to modify /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc, however if a user has a $HOME/.xinitrc already, then the system-wide one won't be executed. -- Ettore Aldrovandi Department of Mathematics http://www.math.fsu.edu/~ealdrov Florida State University aldrovandi at math.fsu.edu Tallahassee, FL 32306-4510, USA +1 (850) 644-9717 (FAX: 4053) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From alain.matthes at mac.com Mon May 30 01:24:30 2005 From: alain.matthes at mac.com (Alain Matthes) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 07:24:30 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [TeXniscope] size of zoom Message-ID: <4A6317FF-AE85-4794-83A4-6F19EF4F16D1@mac.com> hello I would like to have in the menu of zoom : 139% or standard magnification 139% I try : defaults write TeXniscope ZoomWindowSize "139 139 " but that does not work Thanks Alain Matthes --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From alain.matthes at mac.com Mon May 30 01:39:08 2005 From: alain.matthes at mac.com (Alain Matthes) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 07:39:08 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [TeXshop 2.03] Texshop problem Message-ID: <7FA1CEC0-A8A2-4410-818A-B176E317030E@mac.com> Since I installed Tiger, I have some problems with Texshop 2.03. In the prefs, i use UTF8-unicode and in my class i have \RequirePackage{ifthen} \RequirePackage[frenchb]{babel} \RequirePackage[utf8]{inputenc} \RequirePackage[upright,expert]{fourier} \RequirePackage{calc} I work with Texshop or with textmate and texniscope only with Pdflatex. With Texshop, sometimes, the pdf does not work ; it's empty and in the log the file maclass.cls is not found and and a few seconds later, Texshop stops working But if i make a try with textmate and the same files, i've no problem. Alain Matthes Sorry for my bad english --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From costabel at wanadoo.fr Mon May 30 02:59:44 2005 From: costabel at wanadoo.fr (Martin Costabel) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:59:44 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: <902A3C14-00E0-4871-8C2D-0789E7D08C3F@xs4all.nl> References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> <902A3C14-00E0-4871-8C2D-0789E7D08C3F@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <429AB9E0.3020701@wanadoo.fr> Maarten Sneep wrote: > On 30 May 2005, at 0:07, Martin Costabel wrote: > >> Michael Hoppe wrote: >> >>> Well, after changing pdf_mem_size to 131072 I ran >>> sudo fmtutil --all >>> That is supposed to create the formats, isn't it? >>> >> >> The problem is that fmtutil is probably not seeing your changed >> texmf.cnf. > > > The texmf.cnf file I (and others) recommended to alter is the one > intended to hold system wide user alterations, at least according to > Gerben's instructions. I suppose he knows what he is talking about. Then it would be all the more interesting to see whether fmtutil is actually using this file. I Michael's case it appears not to do it. -- Martin --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Mon May 30 03:50:29 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 09:50:29 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: <429AB9E0.3020701@wanadoo.fr> References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> <902A3C14-00E0-4871-8C2D-0789E7D08C3F@xs4all.nl> <429AB9E0.3020701@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: On 30 May 2005, at 8:59, Martin Costabel wrote: > Maarten Sneep wrote: > >> The texmf.cnf file I (and others) recommended to alter is the one >> intended to hold system wide user alterations, at least according >> to Gerben's instructions. I suppose he knows what he is talking >> about. > > Then it would be all the more interesting to see whether fmtutil is > actually using this file. I Michael's case it appears not to do it. By the way: there is not a single texmf.cnf file, but multiple ones, read in sequence, overriding each other. A base configuration is installed somewhere rather deep in the texmf-tree, with another one provided to override those with private settings. To further help Michel, we'll need the output of the 'env' command on the terminal, some environment variable may be set that interferes with TeX. If there are no environment variables set _and_ fink isn't present, then re-running i-Installer in the TeX i-package (just the configure phase) and re-applying the patch should be sufficient (and easiest to explain). Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mh at michael-hoppe.de Mon May 30 03:28:48 2005 From: mh at michael-hoppe.de (Michael Hoppe) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 09:28:48 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: >The problem is that fmtutil is probably not seeing your changed >texmf.cnf. Try "kpsewhich texmf.cnf"; It shows the right one: /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf >this shows which one fmtutil will use. If it's not your changed one, It is the changed one. >I am pretty sure that there is also a combination of a couple of >TeX's 75 or so environment variables that will do the trick, I'm sure, too, but just change pdf_mem_size doesn't do anything. Michael -- -= Michael Hoppe , =----- -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mh at michael-hoppe.de Mon May 30 04:38:35 2005 From: mh at michael-hoppe.de (Michael Hoppe) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 10:38:35 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> <902A3C14-00E0-4871-8C2D-0789E7D08C3F@xs4all.nl> <429AB9E0.3020701@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: >To further help Michel, we'll need the output of the 'env' command >on the terminal, obenketzberg:~/Library/texmf/dvips/config michaelhoppe$ env MANPATH=/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/man:/usr/local/teTeX/man:/sw/share/man:/sw/man:/usr/local/share/man:/usr/local/man:/usr/share/man:/usr/X11R6/man TERM_PROGRAM=Apple_Terminal TERM=vt100 SHELL=/bin/bash TERM_PROGRAM_VERSION=133 USER=michaelhoppe __CF_USER_TEXT_ENCODING=0x1F5:0:3 PATH=/usr/local/mysql/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current PWD=/Users/michaelhoppe/Library/texmf/dvips/config SHLVL=1 HOME=/Users/michaelhoppe LOGNAME=michaelhoppe INFOPATH=/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/info:/usr/local/teTeX/info:/sw/share/info:/sw/info:/usr/local/share/info:/usr/local/lib/info:/usr/local/info:/usr/share/info SECURITYSESSIONID=69a8e0 _=/usr/bin/env OLDPWD=/Users/michaelhoppe >some environment variable may be set that interferes with TeX. Thank you, Maarten, but /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf is certainly used. But the env.-var. "pdf_mem_size" is obviously unknown ... Michael -- -= Michael Hoppe , =----- -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mh at michael-hoppe.de Mon May 30 04:33:41 2005 From: mh at michael-hoppe.de (Michael Hoppe) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 10:33:41 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: <99390ca9fe65c32e4fe8f1ac52b010ff@maths.mq.edu.au> References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <99390ca9fe65c32e4fe8f1ac52b010ff@maths.mq.edu.au> Message-ID: >With older versions of teTeX it wasn't necessary to rebuild >the formats just to increase the amount of memory available. Yes, say: some of them. > >Here is the relevant section, and comments, >from my installation: > [snip] >% >% >main_memory = 1500000 % words of inimemory >available; also applies to inimf&mp >extra_mem_bot = 0 % extra high memory for chars, tokens, etc. >extra_mem_top = 2000000 % extra low memory for >boxes, glue, breakpoints, etc. > > >So if in your texmf.cnf file > (the one found by: kpsewhich texmf.cnf ) >you change the extra_mem_top parameter, if there is one, >then it shouldn't be necessary to rebuild any formats. >Hopefully it'll "just work". You're right. I am able to change obj_tab_size or extra_mem_bot.pdflatex, e.g., to some other values, and those values are used as my log-file reports it. So firstly, the texmf.cnf-file in which the changes are done is used. So the question remains: What is the name of the environment variable that has an effect on pdf_mem_size? Obviously, the name is not "pdf_mem_size". Or is that value hard-wired into pdf(e)latex? >The failure occurs while using a 'microtype' font-name. >I'd guess that the document is fine without Microtype, right ? Yes, refer to my first posting here: the problem arose while I was trying to achieve font expansion to some other fonts, namely the Euler-fonts. >Try increasing any such low values by a factor of 10 or more. That's the point: HOW? Michael -- -= Michael Hoppe , =----- -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mh at michael-hoppe.de Mon May 30 04:43:53 2005 From: mh at michael-hoppe.de (Michael Hoppe) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 10:43:53 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: >I'm sure, too, but just change pdf_mem_size doesn't do anything. Because the proper name is: pdf_mem_size.. So in my case I'm free of any trouble using pdf_mem_size.pdflatex = 1000000 Michael -- -= Michael Hoppe , =----- -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Mon May 30 04:56:33 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 10:56:33 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: Hi, Judging from the env output you posted earlier it seems your environment is clean (computer environment that is, can't judge the rest from here ;-). On 30 May 2005, at 10:43, Michael Hoppe wrote: >> I'm sure, too, but just change pdf_mem_size doesn't do anything. > > Because the proper name is: > > pdf_mem_size.. > > So in my case I'm free of any trouble using > > pdf_mem_size.pdflatex = 1000000 Is that confirmed to work, or is it a guess? Setting the variable without format should set them for all formats, this is to tune each format individually, as they may need different relative sizes with a fixed maximum. If this works, I would consider it an inconsistency at the least. Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 30 05:22:33 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 11:22:33 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <1cbfd6c9aabc9ebfea19725c5cced97e@Web.DE> Am 30.05.2005 um 09:28 schrieb Michael Hoppe: > I'm sure, too, but just change pdf_mem_size doesn't do anything. > Could be Maarten Sneep's and Ross Moore's pointers are more appropriate than my first idea! Wouldn't you like to change extra_mem_bot to at least 1,000,000? What puzzles me is that Maarten states extra_mem_top = 2000000 % extra high memory for chars, tokens, etc. extra_mem_bot = 4000000 % extra low memory for boxes, glue, breakpoints, etc. and Ross cites extra_mem_bot = 0 % extra high memory for chars, tokens, etc. extra_mem_top = 2000000 % extra low memory for boxes, glue, breakpoints, etc. Trial *and* error still *the* method in academic research? OTOH: did you see in short documents already any change in math formulae or areas when applying microtypography to weird encodings like those from the 'U' type? Don't you need some more settings and definitions in microtype.cfg? Which might lead to the error you get ... -- Mit friedvollen Gr??en Pete "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning." -- Rich Cook --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl Mon May 30 05:34:19 2005 From: maarten.sneep at xs4all.nl (Maarten Sneep) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 11:34:19 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: <1cbfd6c9aabc9ebfea19725c5cced97e@Web.DE> References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> <1cbfd6c9aabc9ebfea19725c5cced97e@Web.DE> Message-ID: <8C39783D-D1FE-4F3D-B6AB-492F9516F03A@xs4all.nl> On 30 May 2005, at 11:22, Peter Dyballa wrote: > What puzzles me is that Maarten states > > extra_mem_top = 2000000 % extra high memory for chars, tokens, > etc. > extra_mem_bot = 4000000 % extra low memory for boxes, glue, > breakpoints, etc. > > and Ross cites > > extra_mem_bot = 0 % extra high memory for chars, tokens, > etc. > extra_mem_top = 2000000 % extra low memory for boxes, glue, > breakpoints, etc. > > Trial *and* error still *the* method in academic research? Oh, yes, of course! No, I pretty much set everything to max just to make sure I never have to deal with it again. My half-step refinement method is just a bit cruder than Ross's. Even then there are parameters that will not grow beyond a certain value (that 9 MB metapost output file can not be included by TeX - it will cause a serious memory overflow). Maarten --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mh at michael-hoppe.de Mon May 30 06:02:09 2005 From: mh at michael-hoppe.de (Michael Hoppe) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 12:02:09 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: >>>I'm sure, too, but just change pdf_mem_size doesn't do anything. >> >>Because the proper name is: >> >> pdf_mem_size.. >> >>So in my case I'm free of any trouble using >> >> pdf_mem_size.pdflatex = 1000000 > >Is that confirmed to work, Definitely confirmed: setting pdf_mem_size = 1000000 doesn't have any effect, whereas pdf_mem_size.pdflatex = 1000000 does the right thing. >or is it a guess? No, totally approved. >Setting the variable without >format should set them for all formats, this is to tune each format >individually, as they may need different relative sizes with a fixed >maximum. But it surely doesn't; just have a try by yourself, please. >If this works, I would consider it an inconsistency at the least. Right, Michael -- -= Michael Hoppe , =----- -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mh at michael-hoppe.de Mon May 30 06:07:49 2005 From: mh at michael-hoppe.de (Michael Hoppe) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 12:07:49 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Is there a bigpdflatex? In-Reply-To: <1cbfd6c9aabc9ebfea19725c5cced97e@Web.DE> References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> <1cbfd6c9aabc9ebfea19725c5cced97e@Web.DE> Message-ID: >Could be Maarten Sneep's and Ross Moore's pointers are more >appropriate than my first idea! Wouldn't you like to change >extra_mem_bot to at least 1,000,000? I've tried that, and the changed value was shown in the log, but that didn't change pdf_mem_sizea t all. >Trial *and* error still *the* method in academic research? With a little googling I've found per chance http://www.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2005/009270.html, and that solved the problem. >Don't you need some more settings and definitions in microtype.cfg? So which, e. g.? >Which might lead to the error you get ... No, it was definitely a memory thing. Michael -- -= Michael Hoppe , =----- -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jerome.laurens at u-bourgogne.fr Mon May 30 06:38:28 2005 From: jerome.laurens at u-bourgogne.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=E9r=F4me_Laurens?=) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 12:38:28 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] What encoding should I use? In-Reply-To: <3636B4A7-5FD5-4281-AF55-3A758927DFF0@almqvist.net> References: <2a27ff472dc0d48206cbd5f9253a660d@Web.DE> <3636B4A7-5FD5-4281-AF55-3A758927DFF0@almqvist.net> Message-ID: <4982726d1f40b5ff8d86bd5256b73574@u-bourgogne.fr> Le 28 mai 05, ? 16:38, Johan Almqvist a ?crit : > > On May 28, 2005, at 12:17, Peter Dyballa wrote: > >> Am 28.05.2005 um 11:29 schrieb Johan Almqvist: >> >>> I use \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} and everything works fine >>> >> Don't you have to input ^^c3^^a4^^c3^^b6^^c3^^bc instead of ???? >> > > Not if I use a UTF-8-aware text editor such as TeXShop, TextWrangler, > BBEdit or vim. > > TextEdit doesn't work, for example. TextEdit is indeed a UTF8 aware editor, as you can see in the pref panel provided you customized the encodings list properly. If it does not work for you, just reinstall or fill a bug report. > > -Johan > -- > Johan Almqvist > johan at almqvist.net > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Mon May 30 08:20:27 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 14:20:27 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OS X TeX] Changing (memory) settings for pdfTeX (was: bigpdflatex) In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> <1cbfd6c9aabc9ebfea19725c5cced97e@Web.DE> Message-ID: <39747.159.46.248.233.1117455627.squirrel@mail.rna.nl> Sorry, I missed this thread until now. Anyway, as far as I know the changes you make in /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf for the memory settings are not used when you recreate formats. At least, this used to be so in the past. This is why my distribution contains not a standard teTeX/TeX Live /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf but one with larger values which I put on top of the TeX Live tree before I pack it. I would have preferred to have these in /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf of course, but in the past that did not work while having them in any location but /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf. Maybe that was because in the past the memory settings were overwritten with any entry that came later while for other settings (like PATHS) it is the other way around (what has already been set will not be set in a later found texmf.cnf file). That would also explain why mem_pdf_size.pdflatex would work (is not overwitten because it does not exist in /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf, while mem_pdf_size sec in /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf does not work because it is available in /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf and is thus overwritten. Can someone confirm my guess that this is the situation? Maybe I must ad an explanatory note in /usr/local/teTeX/temx.cnf G --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Mon May 30 09:14:21 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:14:21 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] [TeXshop 2.03] Texshop problem In-Reply-To: <7FA1CEC0-A8A2-4410-818A-B176E317030E@mac.com> References: <7FA1CEC0-A8A2-4410-818A-B176E317030E@mac.com> Message-ID: On May 30, 2005, at 12:39 AM, Alain Matthes wrote: > Since I installed Tiger, I have some problems with Texshop 2.03. > > In the prefs, i use UTF8-unicode and in my class i have > > \RequirePackage{ifthen} > \RequirePackage[frenchb]{babel} > \RequirePackage[utf8]{inputenc} > \RequirePackage[upright,expert]{fourier} > \RequirePackage{calc} > > I work with Texshop or with textmate and texniscope only with > Pdflatex. > > With Texshop, sometimes, the pdf does not work ; > it's empty and in the log the file maclass.cls is not found and > and a few seconds later, Texshop stops working > > But if i make a try with textmate and the same files, i've no problem. > > Alain Matthes > > Sorry for my bad english > Howdy, I assume the \RequirePackage{...} commands were in the maclass.cls file which was being used in your document with a \documentclass {maclass} command. Does your maclass.cls file also have a \LoadClass {...} command? I guess I'd like to have a mini-class file and document file so I can actually test the problem. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From mh at michael-hoppe.de Mon May 30 09:30:20 2005 From: mh at michael-hoppe.de (Michael Hoppe) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:30:20 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Changing (memory) settings for pdfTeX (was: bigpdflatex) In-Reply-To: <39747.159.46.248.233.1117455627.squirrel@mail.rna.nl> References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> <1cbfd6c9aabc9ebfea19725c5cced97e@Web.DE> <39747.159.46.248.233.1117455627.squirrel@mail.rna.nl> Message-ID: >Maybe that was >because in the past the memory settings were overwritten with any entry >that came later while for other settings (like PATHS) it is the other way >around (what has already been set will not be set in a later found >texmf.cnf file). That would also explain why mem_pdf_size.pdflatex would >work (is not overwitten because it does not exist in >/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf, while mem_pdf_size sec in >/usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf does not work because it is available in >/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf and is thus overwritten. > >Can someone confirm my guess that this is the situation? Somewhat. But please note, that pdf_memsize doesn't occur in /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf! I've ran 3 scenarios: 1) Set pdf_mem_size = 1000000 in /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf only: it works. 2) Set pdf_mem_size = 1000000 in /usr/local/teTeX//texmf.cnf without altering /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf: doesn't work. 3) Set pdf_mem_size.pdflatex = 1000000 in /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf witout altering /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf: works. Michael >Maybe I must ad an explanatory note in /usr/local/teTeX/temx.cnf Maybe one should add a value of pdf_mem_size in /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf at all? Michael -- -= Michael Hoppe , =----- -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From tms29 at cam.ac.uk Mon May 30 09:52:26 2005 From: tms29 at cam.ac.uk (Tom Stace) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 14:52:26 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] epstopdf can't find Ghostscript Message-ID: <2278713df5ef2d917cb52035eec05d2d@cam.ac.uk> I've recently installed ghostscript 8 using the i-installer program, and I find now that the epstopdf package breaks. When I now include a figure for which a pdf version does not exist, epstopdf tries to convert it, but fails, and returns the error: "Error: Cannot open Ghostscript for piped input!" I have looked around and the gs command works within the terminal, with no problems, so why can't epstopdf find it? Thanks Tom --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From alain.matthes at mac.com Mon May 30 10:22:07 2005 From: alain.matthes at mac.com (Alain Matthes) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 16:22:07 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] [TeXshop 2.03] Texshop problem In-Reply-To: References: <7FA1CEC0-A8A2-4410-818A-B176E317030E@mac.com> Message-ID: Le 30 mai 05 ? 15:14, Herbert Schulz a ?crit : > > Howdy, > > I assume the \RequirePackage{...} commands were in the maclass.cls > file which was being used in your document with a \documentclass > {maclass} command. Does your maclass.cls file also have a \LoadClass > {...} command? I guess I'd like to have a mini-class file and > document file so I can actually test the problem. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz hello The problem is random and it is difficult for me to give you more precise information. I tested two classes: the first with Loadclass{article) and the second without Loadclass. With the first one under 10.3 and with mac os romand encoding, I never had problem. The first problems appeared since the installation of Tiger (update of 10.3.9) and since the encoding is Utf8. Misfortune for me is that I made both change at the same time. If the problem persists after a clean install of Tiger, I will send a new mail. Thanks for your great software Alain Matthes An other problem : If a template is written with Mac Os roman encoding and if the prefs of Texshop is Utf8 then Texshop freezes when i load the template ( Now all my templates are written with utf8 !!). I know that's an error but perhaps a message would be preferable. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From aguilera at ceride.gov.ar Mon May 30 10:31:42 2005 From: aguilera at ceride.gov.ar (Nestor Aguilera) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 11:31:42 -0300 Subject: [OS X TeX] yhmath Message-ID: <727bba69a898ec60f9767170b0831408@ceride.gov.ar> Hi, I am using OzTeX, TeXShop and Gerben Wierda's i-Package installation, and have a problem using the yhmath fonts. The TeX file \documentclass{article} \usepackage{yhmath} \begin{document} \[ \wideparen{AB} \] \end{document} compiles fine, but if I use pdflatex directly (either with OzTeX or TeXShop) the yhmath fonts show incorrectly in the pdf file. However they are OK if I use Latex (-> dvi) and then dvi2pdf. Is this an installation problem? Thank you, Nestor Aguilera --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 30 12:26:20 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 18:26:20 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] yhmath In-Reply-To: <727bba69a898ec60f9767170b0831408@ceride.gov.ar> References: <727bba69a898ec60f9767170b0831408@ceride.gov.ar> Message-ID: <273b0081e52695daffd94fe446b5445b@Web.DE> Am 30.05.2005 um 16:31 schrieb Nestor Aguilera: > Is this an installation problem? > Yes! For pdfTeX you need a map file entry for the yhcmex font. The entry itself could be yrcmex10 Yhcmex < yhcmex.pfa You can re-use the map file for dvips -- you must have one, otherwise you won't be able to convert DVI to PS. Maybe a simple 'sudo updmap' already helps. If not, then you'll need to find the MAP file that contains "yhcmex.pfa" -- the PostScript fonts file name. This MAP file can be passed to updmap as sudo updmap --enable Map= The short documentation states that the map file entry should be put into psfonts.map. So one last try could help to: sudo updmap --enable Map=psfonts -- Greetings Pete ~ o ~_\\_/\ ~ O O --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Christopher.T.Allen.95 at Alum.Dartmouth.ORG Mon May 30 13:08:53 2005 From: Christopher.T.Allen.95 at Alum.Dartmouth.ORG (Christopher Allen) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 13:08:53 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Multicol help In-Reply-To: <1b8683eb5826de0082ccf2f25bfc5e36@Web.DE> References: <26b5560f760a594b9c939dcdc9e85d50@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG> <1b8683eb5826de0082ccf2f25bfc5e36@Web.DE> Message-ID: > What about something different? > > \usepackage{array,ragged2e,longtable} > > \newenvironment{longtable}[1]{\begin{tabular}{#1}}{\end{tabular}} > > ... Interesting. Thanks. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't this keep a column going until its end instead of wrapping from one column to the next at the end of the page? That is also the impression I get from the format you described. I could see this being very useful under other circumstances, and will definitely hold onto it. Thanks. Chris --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 30 13:06:52 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:06:52 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] epstopdf can't find Ghostscript In-Reply-To: <2278713df5ef2d917cb52035eec05d2d@cam.ac.uk> References: <2278713df5ef2d917cb52035eec05d2d@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <56fd94bf819b78c251469245c57eeb5f@Web.DE> Am 30.05.2005 um 15:52 schrieb Tom Stace: > I have looked around and the gs command works within the terminal, > with no problems, so why can't epstopdf find it? > What is 'which gs' returning in Terminal? Is the string before /gs contained in the output of this command in Terminal? defaults read "${HOME}/.MacOSX/environment" PATH I think Ghostscript from the i-Package gets installed in /usr/local/bin. This element has to be contained in the UNIX search path. Since TeXShop and other Mac OS X applications are a bit different you have to tell them via the file ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist where these tools can search for the usual UNIX commands. To open the file just type 'open ~/.MacOSX/environment.plist' -- if you have the Developer Tools installed a special tool will open. -- Greetings Pete The human animal differs from the lesser primates in his passion for lists of "Ten Best". -- H. Allen Smith --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 30 13:29:04 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:29:04 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Multicol help In-Reply-To: References: <26b5560f760a594b9c939dcdc9e85d50@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG> <1b8683eb5826de0082ccf2f25bfc5e36@Web.DE> Message-ID: Am 30.05.2005 um 19:08 schrieb Christopher Allen: > wouldn't this keep a column going until its end instead of wrapping > from one column to the next at the end of the page? Yes, that's right! Shouldn't that be the correct behaviour? The options with ragged2e are that you can define column widths with longtable and that you can have ragged text in the table. Have you searched at http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html? Sometimes there are quite helpful hints ... -- Greetings Pete ~ o ~_\\_/\ ~ O O --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Christopher.T.Allen.95 at Alum.Dartmouth.ORG Mon May 30 15:25:35 2005 From: Christopher.T.Allen.95 at Alum.Dartmouth.ORG (Christopher Allen) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:25:35 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Multicol help In-Reply-To: References: <26b5560f760a594b9c939dcdc9e85d50@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG> <1b8683eb5826de0082ccf2f25bfc5e36@Web.DE> Message-ID: <63f1c3c99b8dd7f97f0c0218a6f6e7ca@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG> > Yes, that's right! Shouldn't that be the correct behaviour? Rather, I want the behavior of multicol, specifically including the wrapping, but without the [formatting error?] contained within it. If multicol fills a column completely (perhaps that means slightly past where it should), the following column does not begin at the top of the page, but instead gets pushed downward. This is not the result of \\[#pt] or similar commands, though the result appears just like what happens when you reach the end of a page and have a \\[#pt] command, which pushes text on the next page down from the top of the page. The other problem, which from what I said does sound more similar to what you offered, isn't solved by avoiding wrapping. In one case I have 70 items of the same size placed in 3 columns. In the second case this is reduced to 50 items. With 70 items they are separated into columns of 24, 24, and 22; with 50 items they are separated into columns of 17, 17, and 16. I would like the 22 (or 16) items in the third column to line up with the first 22 (or 16) items in the other two columns. Originally extra spacing was placed between the items of the third column. Setting finalcolumnbadness to -1 made this work with 70 items: there third column ends with the 22nd item lined up with the 22nd items from the other two columns. However, this did nothing for the 50 item group. It seems like it should have worked, based on both the documentation and the success with the 70 item group, but it does not. For now I've solved the first problem by placing itthenelse{70items}{}{\columbreak} commands (the 70 and 50 items mentioned in the second part correspond to a matching group in the first part) through the document so they won't mess up the spacing when doing the 70 item one. I currently have no solution for the second problem. > Have you searched at http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html? > Sometimes there are quite helpful hints ... Maybe I've just used the wrong search strings; I didn't come up with anything that way. I also looked through the multicol help file, which is where I found some of the solutions I've been using. Thanks, Chris --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Christopher.T.Allen.95 at Alum.Dartmouth.ORG Mon May 30 15:30:12 2005 From: Christopher.T.Allen.95 at Alum.Dartmouth.ORG (Christopher Allen) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:30:12 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Multicol help In-Reply-To: <63f1c3c99b8dd7f97f0c0218a6f6e7ca@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG> References: <26b5560f760a594b9c939dcdc9e85d50@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG> <1b8683eb5826de0082ccf2f25bfc5e36@Web.DE> <63f1c3c99b8dd7f97f0c0218a6f6e7ca@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG> Message-ID: > Setting finalcolumnbadness to -1 made this work with 70 items: there > third column ends with the 22nd item lined up with the 22nd items from > the other two columns. However, this did nothing for the 50 item > group. It seems like it should have worked, based on both the > documentation and the success with the 70 item group, but it does not. No, wait, it tricked me. Setting finalcolumnbadness to -1 is not working with the 70 items, either. The 22nd item in the final column lines up with the 23rd items in the previous two columns. Hmmm... Chris --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Mon May 30 16:30:42 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 22:30:42 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Multicol help In-Reply-To: <63f1c3c99b8dd7f97f0c0218a6f6e7ca@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG> References: <26b5560f760a594b9c939dcdc9e85d50@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG> <1b8683eb5826de0082ccf2f25bfc5e36@Web.DE> <63f1c3c99b8dd7f97f0c0218a6f6e7ca@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG> Message-ID: <399005e4d8c616f43643b7d107e3e76f@Web.DE> Am 30.05.2005 um 21:25 schrieb Christopher Allen: > The other problem, which from what I said does sound more similar to > what you offered, isn't solved by avoiding wrapping. In one case I > have 70 items of the same size placed in 3 columns. In the second case > this is reduced to 50 items. With 70 items they are separated into > columns of 24, 24, and 22; with 50 items they are separated into > columns of 17, 17, and 16. I would like the 22 (or 16) items in the > third column to line up with the first 22 (or 16) items in the other > two columns. Originally extra spacing was placed between the items of > the third column. Setting finalcolumnbadness to -1 made this work with > 70 items: there third column ends with the 22nd item lined up with the > 22nd items from the other two columns. However, this did nothing for > the 50 item group. It seems like it should have worked, based on both > the documentation and the success with the 70 item group, but it does > not. > If I understand you right, you three columns containing enumerated lists each. What you don't like, is that the items are output like 1.a 1.b 1.c 2.d 2.e 2.f 3.g 3.h Have you tried to put the lists into the top regions of \parboxes with a given height that build the table? Something like ... \begin{longtable}{lll} \parbox[t][4cm]{5cm}{ \begin{enumerate} \item L \item L \item L \item L \end{enumerate} } & \parbox[t][4cm]{5cm}{ \begin{enumerate} \item C \item C \item C \item C \end{enumerate} } & \parbox[t][4cm]{5cm}{ \begin{enumerate} \item R \item R \end{enumerate} }\\ \end{longtable} -- Greetings Pete "engineer: a mechanism for converting caffeine into designs" --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From amaxwell at mac.com Mon May 30 22:38:21 2005 From: amaxwell at mac.com (Adam R. Maxwell) Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:38:21 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] custom bib styles in bibdesk In-Reply-To: <2BA08BFC-73FF-497D-88BB-4CE5A97918D4@math.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <2BA08BFC-73FF-497D-88BB-4CE5A97918D4@math.uni-heidelberg.de> Message-ID: On May 27, 2005, at 18:16, Claus Gerhardt wrote: > I think you have to enter the name of the .bst style file directly > into the little field "BibTeX Style" in the Preferences/Preview. At > least I did and it works. However your entry won't stick, if you > change it. Claus is correct. If your entry does not stick, however, that is a bug. Please file it so we can get a fix in. Adam > > > > On May 27, 2005, at 11:52, Bilal Barakat wrote: > > >> Apologies for the daft question, but where do I need to put >> new .bst bibliography style files in order for them to be >> available in BibDesk's preview? >> I've tried the ~/Library/texmf tree, the /usr/local/teTeX/ >> share .. texmf tree, rehashed with texhash, all to no avail. Maybe >> I'm missing something obvious.... >> >> Bilal. >> >> --------------------- Info --------------------- >> Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ >> & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ >> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq >> List Post: >> >> >> >> > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lsequeir at fc.ul.pt Fri May 27 08:09:22 2005 From: lsequeir at fc.ul.pt (Luis Sequeira) Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 13:09:22 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: Functionality for collaborative work in TeXShop? In-Reply-To: <96013.43361@email.esm.psu.edu> References: <96013.43361@email.esm.psu.edu> Message-ID: > >Hello, > >I was just asked by a colleague -- TeXShop convert from a few months >ago -- whether there is in TeXShop a functionality for marking >changes in a document written collaboratively by several persons, ? >la Word, namely by (assuming I understood correctly, given I don't >use Word myself for writing): > >- Putting in different colors pieces of text written or modified by >different persons. > >- Putting delete bars through deleted text. > >I imagine this is not a job for a front-end like TeXShop, and that >the functionality has instead to be looked for in a dedicated LaTeX >package. I mentioned the changebar package, but it doesn't do all the >things my colleague is willing to do. > >Has anybody here experience with a more sophisticated solution? >(Versioning systems like CVS or subversion aside, which would be >considered overkill and too technical for the problem at hand -- and >for me as well.) > >Bruno Voisin I'm not sure if this will help, but did you consider SubEthaEdit? Its most distinguished features have to do with collaboration editing. It provides LaTeX syntax coloring and is free for non-commercial use. Since collaboration seems to be the issue here, it may make sense to use it as an external editor for TeXShop. There is no command for typesetting in SubEthaEdit, but a little Applescript may do the trick. Luis Sequeira --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From tms29 at cam.ac.uk Tue May 31 06:16:10 2005 From: tms29 at cam.ac.uk (Tom Stace) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 11:16:10 +0100 Subject: [OS X TeX] epstopdf can't find Ghostscript In-Reply-To: <56fd94bf819b78c251469245c57eeb5f@Web.DE> References: <2278713df5ef2d917cb52035eec05d2d@cam.ac.uk> <56fd94bf819b78c251469245c57eeb5f@Web.DE> Message-ID: <052d20d303dc0b614a3676bba2a48fcb@cam.ac.uk> Dear Pete, > What is 'which gs' returning in Terminal? [lapc-0805:~] tomstace% which gs /usr/local/bin/gs > Is the string before /gs contained in the output of this command in > Terminal? > > defaults read "${HOME}/.MacOSX/environment" PATH No... in fact that directory is embarrassingly empty. I have created a new plist with that path in it, and epstopdf now works again. Thanks for taking the time to point this out, Tom --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From aguilera at ceride.gov.ar Tue May 31 08:21:41 2005 From: aguilera at ceride.gov.ar (Nestor Aguilera) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 09:21:41 -0300 Subject: [OS X TeX] yhmath In-Reply-To: <273b0081e52695daffd94fe446b5445b@Web.DE> References: <727bba69a898ec60f9767170b0831408@ceride.gov.ar> <273b0081e52695daffd94fe446b5445b@Web.DE> Message-ID: <1a0cb92913d1b0bb621957c61c134aea@ceride.gov.ar> Dear Pete, Thank you very much for your concern. On 30 May 2005, at 13:26, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 30.05.2005 um 16:31 schrieb Nestor Aguilera: > >> Is this an installation problem? > > Yes! For pdfTeX you need a map file entry for the yhcmex font. The > entry itself could be > > yrcmex10 Yhcmex < yhcmex.pfa > > You can re-use the map file for dvips -- you must have one, otherwise > you won't be able to convert DVI to PS. Maybe a simple 'sudo updmap' > already helps. If not, then you'll need to find the MAP file that > contains "yhcmex.pfa" -- the PostScript fonts file name. This MAP file > can be passed to updmap as > > sudo updmap --enable Map= > > The short documentation states that the map file entry should be put > into psfonts.map. So one last try could help to: > > sudo updmap --enable Map=psfonts I don't think this is the problem. Just in case, I did "texhash" followed by "sudo updmap" in terminal. There were 9 output files, containing something related to yhmath as follows: dvipdfm_dl14.map, dvipdfm_ndl14.map: line "yrcmex10 default yhcmex" builtin35.map, download35.map: ** nothing ** ps2pk.map, psfonts_pk.map, psfonts_t1.map, pdftex_dl14.map, pdftex_ndl14.map: line "yrcmex10 Yhcmex From joe.miro at uib.es Tue May 31 08:28:48 2005 From: joe.miro at uib.es (Joe Miro) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 14:28:48 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Paper size in pdflatex Message-ID: <892495b60217d3a44e62a2a3e74ec589@uib.es> I am writing a book and I want to generate a PDF document with a paper size of 170 mm x 240 mm. If I put the commands \setlength{\pdfpageheight}{240 mm} \setlength{\pdfpagewidth}{170 mm} in the document it gets ignored by GW's pdflatex (the paper size comes out US letter). Using Google I have found a web page with instructions on how to modify two files ($TEXBASE/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg and $TEXBASE/texmf/tex/latex/misc/Vmargin.sty) to achieve the paper size change. I haven't tried it, and I would rather prefer not to, given that I only want to change the paper size of this document. Is there an option or some easy way to set the paper size for only one document? Thanks. Joe --- Joe Mir? Juli? Dept. de Matem?tiques i Inform?tica e-mail: joe.miro at uib.es Campus UIB URL: http://bioinfo.uib.es/~joemiro 07122 Palma de Mallorca SPAIN --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Tue May 31 08:49:23 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 07:49:23 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Paper size in pdflatex In-Reply-To: <892495b60217d3a44e62a2a3e74ec589@uib.es> References: <892495b60217d3a44e62a2a3e74ec589@uib.es> Message-ID: On May 31, 2005, at 7:28 AM, Joe Miro wrote: > I am writing a book and I want to generate a PDF document with a > paper size of 170 mm x 240 mm. If I put the commands > \setlength{\pdfpageheight}{240 mm} > \setlength{\pdfpagewidth}{170 mm} > in the document it gets ignored by GW's pdflatex (the paper size > comes out US letter). Using Google I have found a web page with > instructions on how to modify two files ($TEXBASE/texmf/pdftex/ > config/pdftex.cfg and $TEXBASE/texmf/tex/latex/misc/Vmargin.sty) to > achieve the paper size change. I haven't tried it, and I would > rather prefer not to, given that I only want to change the paper > size of this document. Is there an option or some easy way to set > the paper size for only one document? > > Thanks. > > Joe > Howdy, I believe that tells pdftex what to do but you still have to do is tell LaTeX what to do with \setlength\paperheight{240mm} \setlength\paperwidth{170mm} which might do the job; I'm not sure. Actually, I'd look into the geometry package which allows for logical page setup and takes care of telling pdftex special things. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de Tue May 31 09:14:53 2005 From: gerhardt at math.uni-heidelberg.de (Claus Gerhardt) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 15:14:53 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] Paper size in pdflatex In-Reply-To: References: <892495b60217d3a44e62a2a3e74ec589@uib.es> Message-ID: <1DF0C9E1-0BC4-452F-9D29-9B652D8E6CDB@math.uni-heidelberg.de> The page dimensions have to be defined in the class file, in the preamble of the document they are ignored. Hence, I recommend to choose a suitable class file - I don't like the standard book.cls - and put a modified copy of it in your personal texmf folder, so that latex finds. If you are writing a math or physiscs book, then I would recommend the amsbook.cls, otherwise ask your publisher or google a bit. Claus On May 31, 2005, at 14:49, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > On May 31, 2005, at 7:28 AM, Joe Miro wrote: > > >> I am writing a book and I want to generate a PDF document with a >> paper size of 170 mm x 240 mm. If I put the commands >> \setlength{\pdfpageheight}{240 mm} >> \setlength{\pdfpagewidth}{170 mm} >> in the document it gets ignored by GW's pdflatex (the paper size >> comes out US letter). Using Google I have found a web page with >> instructions on how to modify two files ($TEXBASE/texmf/pdftex/ >> config/pdftex.cfg and $TEXBASE/texmf/tex/latex/misc/Vmargin.sty) >> to achieve the paper size change. I haven't tried it, and I would >> rather prefer not to, given that I only want to change the paper >> size of this document. Is there an option or some easy way to set >> the paper size for only one document? >> >> Thanks. >> >> Joe >> >> > > Howdy, > > I believe that tells pdftex what to do but you still have to do is > tell LaTeX what to do with > > \setlength\paperheight{240mm} > \setlength\paperwidth{170mm} > > which might do the job; I'm not sure. Actually, I'd look into the > geometry package which allows for logical page setup and takes care > of telling pdftex special things. > > Good Luck, > > Herb Schulz > (herbs at wideopenwest.com) > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From osxtex at st.estfiles.de Tue May 31 09:52:47 2005 From: osxtex at st.estfiles.de (Steffen Wolfrum) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 15:52:47 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] French typography Message-ID: Hi Bruno (and others), occasionally in french books I saw additional white space before/after french quotes before colon, semicolon, questionmarks and ?!" (don't know name). Are there more typographic specials like this in French? And what is this called? French typography? Steffen --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From wadams at atlis.com Tue May 31 10:04:25 2005 From: wadams at atlis.com (William F. Adams) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:04:25 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] French typography In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <51c25fc69984c104f5af1b0ae5701b9b@atlis.com> On May 31, 2005, at 9:52 AM, Steffen Wolfrum wrote: > occasionally in french books I saw additional white space > before/after french quotes guillemets > before colon, semicolon, questionmarks and ?!" (don't know name). exclamation point. Also called a ``bang'' > Are there more typographic specials like this in French? > And what is this called? French typography? Depends on the timeframe. Normally these days there's no additional space after sentence-ending punctuation, hence the ``\frenchspacing'' command from Plain TeX. If your French is better than mine, this might be of use: http://www.synapse-fr.com/manuels/GUILLE.htm and Luc Devroye's pages have this link: http://www.adpf.asso.fr/adpf-publi/folio/lettres/caracteres.html and some others: http://jeff.cs.mcgill.ca/~luc/typography.html William -- William Adams, publishing specialist voice - 717-731-6707 | Fax - 717-731-6708 www.atlis.com --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Tue May 31 10:07:13 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:07:13 +0200 (CEST) Subject: [OS X TeX] Changing (memory) settings for pdfTeX (was: bigpdflatex) In-Reply-To: References: <86b41e69aab959c33f9fdf3b96531ff2@cms.uib.no> <1FF93A14-68FA-4258-A225-E063AEA89569@xs4all.nl> <1BDB62CF-3979-4DEE-86C0-3806D082940C@xs4all.nl> <62CC9F9B-7C03-419F-A06A-7FEC184C0013@math.uni-heidelberg.de> <429A3D33.7080309@wanadoo.fr> <1cbfd6c9aabc9ebfea19725c5cced97e@Web.DE> <39747.159.46.248.233.1117455627.squirrel@mail.rna.nl> Message-ID: <56683.159.46.248.233.1117548433.squirrel@mail.rna.nl> >>Maybe that was >>because in the past the memory settings were overwritten with any entry >>that came later while for other settings (like PATHS) it is the other way >>around (what has already been set will not be set in a later found >>texmf.cnf file). That would also explain why mem_pdf_size.pdflatex would >>work (is not overwitten because it does not exist in >>/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf, while mem_pdf_size sec in >>/usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf does not work because it is available in >>/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf and is thus overwritten. >> >>Can someone confirm my guess that this is the situation? > > Somewhat. But please note, that pdf_memsize doesn't occur in > /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf! > > I've ran 3 scenarios: > > > 1) Set pdf_mem_size = 1000000 in > /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf only: it works. > > 2) Set pdf_mem_size = 1000000 in /usr/local/teTeX//texmf.cnf without > altering /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf: doesn't work. What if one has 1000000 and the other 1500000 and the other way around? > 3) Set pdf_mem_size.pdflatex = 1000000 in /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf > witout altering /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf: works. What if one has 1000000 and the other has 1500000 and the other way around? G > > Michael > >>Maybe I must ad an explanatory note in /usr/local/teTeX/temx.cnf > > Maybe one should add a value of pdf_mem_size in > /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf at all? > > Michael > > > -- > -= Michael Hoppe , =----- > -= Key fingerprint = 74 FD 0A E3 8B 2A 79 82 25 D0 AD 2B 75 6A AE 63 > -= PGP public key ID 0xE0A5731D =----------------------------------- > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jan at linguist.umass.edu Tue May 31 10:34:14 2005 From: jan at linguist.umass.edu (Jan Anderssen) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:34:14 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Paper size in pdflatex In-Reply-To: References: <892495b60217d3a44e62a2a3e74ec589@uib.es> Message-ID: <13B92844-2B98-4272-96B2-08A6E8DB16F3@linguist.umass.edu> > Actually, I'd look into the geometry package which allows for > logical page setup and takes care of telling pdftex special things. I second that. I use it frequently for 6x9in books (written by other people, I'm just putting them together...), and the preamble looks simple like this: \documentclass[twoside]{book} ... \usepackage[pdftex]{geometry} \geometry{ papersize={6in, 9in} } ... jan --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jeanclaudedesoza at wanadoo.fr Tue May 31 11:06:57 2005 From: jeanclaudedesoza at wanadoo.fr (Jean-Claude DE SOZA) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 17:06:57 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] French typography In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <767AF5D0-8D63-4377-9509-BAC64A2F72E3@wanadoo.fr> Stefen, In French typography, you must let a white space after all ponctuations like in English but also a space before the ponctuation if it is a "double" one for instance : colon, semicolon, questionmarks and exclamation marks. In fact, the space before must be a little smaller than the space after. We call it "espace fine ins?cable". There are more things involved in the French typography like space before and after parenthesis, numbers? If you are interested, I recommend you this book : http:// www.perrousseaux.com/Sources/ouvrages/Ouvrage1.htm Jean-Claude DE SOZA Le 31 mai 05 ? 15:52, Steffen Wolfrum a ?crit : > Hi Bruno (and others), > > occasionally in french books I saw additional white space > before/after french quotes > before colon, semicolon, questionmarks and ?!" (don't know name). > > Are there more typographic specials like this in French? > And what is this called? French typography? > > Steffen > --------------------- Info --------------------- > Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ > & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ > TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq > List Post: > > > > > > --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue May 31 11:11:24 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 17:11:24 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] yhmath In-Reply-To: <1a0cb92913d1b0bb621957c61c134aea@ceride.gov.ar> References: <727bba69a898ec60f9767170b0831408@ceride.gov.ar> <273b0081e52695daffd94fe446b5445b@Web.DE> <1a0cb92913d1b0bb621957c61c134aea@ceride.gov.ar> Message-ID: Am 31.05.2005 um 14:21 schrieb Nestor Aguilera: > I don't think this is the problem. Yes, that's what I think too now. I installed the package and get with your example something like "~AB" (the tilde is higher, like a macron). Could be we're not using pdflamstex? Or we need to tell pdfTeX the actual encoding of the PostScript font. This to find out will take some time since the glyph names in the font file do *not* correspond to the glyphs visible! What about Fourier? Isn't that package good enough for you? -- Greetings Pete "A mathematician is a machine that turns coffee into theorems." --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From aguilera at ceride.gov.ar Tue May 31 11:28:56 2005 From: aguilera at ceride.gov.ar (Nestor Aguilera) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 12:28:56 -0300 Subject: [OS X TeX] yhmath In-Reply-To: References: <727bba69a898ec60f9767170b0831408@ceride.gov.ar><273b0081e52695d affd94fe446b5445b@Web.DE><1a0cb92913d1b0bb621957c61c134aea@ceride.gov.ar> Message-ID: Thanks Pete, On 31 May 2005, at 12:11, Peter Dyballa wrote: >> I don't think this is the problem. > > Yes, that's what I think too now. I installed the package and get with > your example something like "~AB" (the tilde is higher, like a > macron). With Adobe Reader you may see something like a dot, plus info on what happened to the font. > Could be we're not using pdflamstex? Or we need to tell pdfTeX the > actual encoding of the PostScript font. > > This to find out will take some time since the glyph names in the font > file do *not* correspond to the glyphs visible! I don't know much (errr... anything) of that. My impression is that since it works with TeX + Ghostscript, the problem is with pdflatex. > What about Fourier? Isn't that package good enough for you? All I need is to put an arc on two or three capital letters. My reference is "The Comprehensive LATEX Symbol List" by Scott Pakin (September 2003). I'll take a look into Fourier. Thanks again, Nestor Aguilera --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Tue May 31 11:34:26 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:34:26 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Update on MacSkakNew Message-ID: <54E3A815-06D3-4FC9-B5D7-F5B87831959A@wideopenwest.com> Howdy, A while back I put together a simple prepackaged version of the SkakNew type1 Chess Fonts and a version of the skak package for typesetting Chess Games that used the SkakNew Fonts rather than the original bit mapped fonts supplied with the skak package (a simple change - but I renamed the adapted version skaknew). Recently a bug was found in skak with the designation of legal Knight moves from a particular square which, of course, was carried over to skaknew. This has now been corrected and the latest version can be found as ``MacSkakNew.zip'' on my download site, . Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From markoilcan at yahoo.com Tue May 31 11:42:58 2005 From: markoilcan at yahoo.com (mark oilcan) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 08:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [OS X TeX] X11 In-Reply-To: 6667 Message-ID: <20050531154259.74207.qmail@web53104.mail.yahoo.com> --- GeGerbeniWierdaGeGerbeniWierdanrnalnlwrote: > On May 27, 2005, at 23:22, Ettore AlAldrovandirote: > > > /etc/cscshscshrc> > > > is read by non login shells. > > I cannot use these as they would be read every time and every > susubshell > call would add to the PATH once more. > > G > In practice this really isn't a problem. When the shell launches it hashes the contents of the path, and, if a directory occurs multiple times, the shell rereads and rehashes the contents. Yes, this can slow down the time it takes to launch the shell, but that time will be essentially imperceptible unless you add a *very* large directory to the path many times over (by having a chain of subshells spawning subshells, but then that's most likely to be a problem in and of itself). Nevertheless, I agree that, from an aesthetic point of view, adding a directory to the path repeatedly, is undesirable (though this hasn't always stopped me). In that case, you can go through some minor contortions and do what is done in fink and create an alias (or function for [ba]sh) which only adds the directory to the path if it's not there already. Here's how fink does it for csh: (mind possible carriage returns added by email programs) # # Fink - a package manager that downloads source and installs it # Copyright (c) 2001 Christoph Pfisterer # Copyright (c) 2001-2004 The Fink Team # # This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or # modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License # as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 # of the License, or (at your option) any later version. # # This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, # but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of # MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the # GNU General Public License for more details. # # You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License # along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software # Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. # # define append_path and prepend_path to add directory paths, e.g. PATH, MANPATH. # add to end of path alias append_path 'if ( $\!:1 !~ \!:2\:* && $\!:1 !~ *\:\!:2\:* && $\!:1 !~ *\:\!:2 && $\!:1 !~ \!:2 ) setenv \!:1 ${\!:1}\:\!:2' # add to front of path alias prepend_path 'if ( $\!:1 !~ \!:2\:* && $\!:1 !~ *\:\!:2\:* && $\!:1 !~ *\:\!:2 && $\!:1 !~ \!: 2 ) setenv \!:1 \!:2\:${\!:1}; if ( $\!:1 !~ \!:2\:* ) setenv \!:1 \!:2`echo \:${\!:1} | /usr/bin/sed -e s%^\!:2\:%% -e s%:\!:2\:%:%g -e s%:\!:2\$%%`' # setup fink related paths. we assume that the fink directories exists. if ( $?PATH ) then prepend_path PATH /sw/bin:/sw/sbin else setenv PATH /sw/bin:/sw/sbin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin endif Yes, it's almost completely indecipherable (thanks csh!), but it should work. MarkA __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue May 31 12:34:28 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 18:34:28 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] yhmath In-Reply-To: References: <727bba69a898ec60f9767170b0831408@ceride.gov.ar><273b0081e52695d affd94fe446b5445b@Web.DE><1a0cb92913d1b0bb621957c61c134aea@ceride.gov.ar> Message-ID: <75d73f477481bcc0cbb9f10232453d81@Web.DE> Am 31.05.2005 um 17:28 schrieb Nestor Aguilera: > I don't know much (errr... anything) of that. My impression is that > since it works with TeX + Ghostscript, the problem is with pdflatex. It's not only pdfTeX, could be it's PDF that says, a PS or TTF font must have an encoding. If none is given, a (wrong) standard is applied ... > >> What about Fourier? Isn't that package good enough for you? > > All I need is to put an arc on two or three capital letters. My > reference is "The Comprehensive LATEX Symbol List" by Scott Pakin > (September 2003). I'll take a look into Fourier. Try this: \documentclass{article} %\usepackage{yhmath} \usepackage{fourier} \begin{document} \[ \wideparen{AB}\;\wideparen{CDE}\;\wideparen{FGHI}\;\wideparen{JKLMN} \] \end{document} -- Greetings Pete It's not the valleys in life I dread so much as the dips. -- Garfield --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From lotto at vassar.edu Tue May 31 13:54:39 2005 From: lotto at vassar.edu (Benjamin Lotto) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 13:54:39 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Typesetting plain TeX documents with /magnification gives odd results Message-ID: Using TeXShop 2.02 under OS X 10.4.1 (Tiger) with TeX installed via i- Installer. Typsetting plain TeX documents using \magnification=1200 (or anything else other than 1000) produces odd results regarding the placement of text on the page. For example, the simple document \magnification=1200 This is a test. \bye prints for me with the text line right up against the top of the page and the page number about 1.7 inches from the bottom of the page and shifted left. It's almost as though the whole page has been shifted up and to the left. If I go to the command line and do tex followed by dvips, everything works OK, so this looks like a pdftex problem. The same issue crops up on other machines with similar setups. Might I have something installed wrong, or be doing something else bad? Thanks! -Ben --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From fstengel at mac.com Tue May 31 15:39:48 2005 From: fstengel at mac.com (Frank STENGEL) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 19:39:48 +0000 Subject: [OS X TeX] Typesetting plain TeX documents with /magnification gives odd results In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E95B9B5-0C85-4CFF-8C89-584925381202@mac.com> Le 31 mai 05 ? 17:54, Benjamin Lotto a ?crit : > Using TeXShop 2.02 under OS X 10.4.1 (Tiger) with TeX installed via > i-Installer. > > Typsetting plain TeX documents using \magnification=1200 (or > anything else other than 1000) produces odd results regarding the > placement of text on the page. For example, the simple document The problem is that after magnifying you have to reset the pdf page dimensions. Let me quote Bruno Voisin on the subject: > I'm reposting here a reply to a similar question from a couple of > days ago. In short: replace \magnification=\magstep3 by > > \mag=\magstep3 > \input pdftexconfig > \hsize=210truemm \advance\hsize by-2truein > \vsize=297truemm \advance\vsize by-2.1truein > > The \hsize and \vsize here are for A4 paper, assuming 1-inch wide > margins (with additional 0.1 inch for the footer) which is plain > TeX's default. > > The idea is that, after setting a magnification using TeX's > primitive \mag, you need to reset not only \hsize and \vsize in > true units, as does plain TeX's \magnification macro, but also the > pdfTeX-specific parameters \pdfpageheight and \pdfpagewidth which > define the mediabox (the size of the sheet of paper) and possibly > also \pdfhorigin and \pdfvorigin. The file pdftexconfig.tex > (actually /Library/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/generic/config/ > pdftexconfig.tex) does this, and contains values defined when > installing gwTeX (when you chose the paper size). -- Frank STENGEL (fstengelmac.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue May 31 16:10:08 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 22:10:08 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] yhmath In-Reply-To: <273b0081e52695daffd94fe446b5445b@Web.DE> References: <727bba69a898ec60f9767170b0831408@ceride.gov.ar> <273b0081e52695daffd94fe446b5445b@Web.DE> Message-ID: <32ab086d72a0159229d11111b155b06c@Web.DE> Am 30.05.2005 um 18:26 schrieb Peter Dyballa: > yrcmex10 Yhcmex < yhcmex.pfa *That's* the problem: you can't use the *raw* encoded font but have to use the finally encoded font instead when you don't know the encoding vector. The correct map file entry is: yhcmex10 Yhcmex DVI -> PS -> PDF works too! -- Greetings Pete $ sumascii BILL GATES B I L L G A T E S 66+ 73+ 76+ 76+ 71+ 65+ 84+ 69+ 83 = 663 and add 3 because he's Bill Gates the third. --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Tue May 31 16:50:36 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 22:50:36 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] epstopdf can't find Ghostscript In-Reply-To: <052d20d303dc0b614a3676bba2a48fcb@cam.ac.uk> References: <2278713df5ef2d917cb52035eec05d2d@cam.ac.uk> <56fd94bf819b78c251469245c57eeb5f@Web.DE> <052d20d303dc0b614a3676bba2a48fcb@cam.ac.uk> Message-ID: <32CA25EB-ECBA-4343-8C5F-085062232B5E@rna.nl> On 31 May 2005, at 12:16, Tom Stace wrote: > Dear Pete, > > >> What is 'which gs' returning in Terminal? >> > > [lapc-0805:~] tomstace% which gs > /usr/local/bin/gs > > >> Is the string before /gs contained in the output of this command >> in Terminal? >> >> defaults read "${HOME}/.MacOSX/environment" PATH >> > > No... in fact that directory is embarrassingly empty. I have > created a new plist with that path in it, and epstopdf now works > again. > > Thanks for taking the time to point this out, I feel compelled to point out that this is not a safe and stable solution but it ssems to spread anyway because of incomplete GUI applications. The environment.plist file is a leftover from NEXTSTEP and because it influences all apps it may have unwanted and unexpected effects (in fact it can break i-Installer if the contents are broken) The correct way is to have the GUI *application* (and not a global setting for all GUI applications) set the right PATH before executing commands. G --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE Tue May 31 17:25:45 2005 From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 23:25:45 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] epstopdf can't find Ghostscript In-Reply-To: <32CA25EB-ECBA-4343-8C5F-085062232B5E@rna.nl> References: <2278713df5ef2d917cb52035eec05d2d@cam.ac.uk> <56fd94bf819b78c251469245c57eeb5f@Web.DE> <052d20d303dc0b614a3676bba2a48fcb@cam.ac.uk> <32CA25EB-ECBA-4343-8C5F-085062232B5E@rna.nl> Message-ID: Am 31.05.2005 um 22:50 schrieb Gerben Wierda: > The environment.plist file is a leftover from NEXTSTEP and because it > influences all apps it may have unwanted and unexpected effects (in > fact it can break i-Installer if the contents are broken) Can you be a bit more specific on this? Which settings have this impact? PATH only? > > The correct way is to have the GUI *application* (and not a global > setting for all GUI applications) set the right PATH before executing > commands. You mean that at login-time the correct values for PATH or path should be set? And this should work because any process created by a GUI app should have then too the right settings? -- Mit friedvollen Gr??en Pete === -Q ==<__/% >> _____________(_)____ at _____________________________ --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl Tue May 31 17:55:20 2005 From: Gerben.Wierda at rna.nl (Gerben Wierda) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 23:55:20 +0200 Subject: [OS X TeX] epstopdf can't find Ghostscript In-Reply-To: References: <2278713df5ef2d917cb52035eec05d2d@cam.ac.uk> <56fd94bf819b78c251469245c57eeb5f@Web.DE> <052d20d303dc0b614a3676bba2a48fcb@cam.ac.uk> <32CA25EB-ECBA-4343-8C5F-085062232B5E@rna.nl> Message-ID: <34d4c8486f6767b1ad4d7bd06ce98d54@rna.nl> On May 31, 2005, at 23:25, Peter Dyballa wrote: > > Am 31.05.2005 um 22:50 schrieb Gerben Wierda: > >> The environment.plist file is a leftover from NEXTSTEP and because it >> influences all apps it may have unwanted and unexpected effects (in >> fact it can break i-Installer if the contents are broken) > > Can you be a bit more specific on this? Which settings have this > impact? PATH only? PATH is an important one for any tool that uses subprocesses. Muck around with it and suddenly apps may get different versions or none at all. I have had my share of help requests for i-installer doing funny things as a result of this. >> The correct way is to have the GUI *application* (and not a global >> setting for all GUI applications) set the right PATH before executing >> commands. > > You mean that at login-time the correct values for PATH or path should > be set? And this should work because any process created by a GUI app > should have then too the right settings? No, what I mean is that if a GUI app requires non-default setting for its working (and that generally means running subprocesses) it should keep its own PATH setting. TeXShop does this in its Preferences (in the Engine tab). The Apple Frameworks for running subprocesses have the possibility to pass environment variables to that subprocess. Hence, TeXShop passes an updated environment to the subprocess including a PATH containing and /usr/local/bin and /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current (or whatever you set in preferences) It is OK to have some sort of a default. It is not OK that i-Installer's PATH changes because some other Foo.app needs a different path. I am probably giving up on this. If I produce a next version of i-Installer it will completely set its own environmen, just to be protected against stuff coming from environmen.plist G --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From news at bens.ws Tue May 31 20:33:10 2005 From: news at bens.ws (Ben Galin) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 17:33:10 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Missing Hebrew font (jerus10)? Message-ID: <4bf25c670bd34894d3f1e81b6eb4772d@bens.ws> Hello gang, I had to replace my hard drive earlier this year. Since then, the following sample file stopped working properly (Hebrew characters are not in output): \documentclass{article} \usepackage{ucs} % Unicode \usepackage[utf8x]{inputenc} % Input in Unicode \usepackage[hebrew,english]{babel} % Hebrew \begin{document} Hebrew\dotfill \R{?????} \end{document} The following is the error message: This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.20a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.3) \write18 enabled. output format initialized to PDF entering extended mode (./hebrewtrial.tex LaTeX2e <2003/12/01> Babel and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, d utch, italian, norsk, portuges, spanish, swedish, nohyphenation, loaded. (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/article.cls Document Class: article 2004/02/16 v1.4f Standard LaTeX document class (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/size10.clo)) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/latex/ucs/ucs.sty (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/latex/ucs/data/uni-global.def)) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/latex/base/inputenc.sty (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/latex/ucs/utf8x.def)) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/generic/babel/babel.sty (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/generic/babel/rlbabel.def) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/generic/babel/hebrew.ldf (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/generic/babel/babel.def) Package babel Warning: No hyphenation patterns were loaded for (babel) the language `Hebrew' (babel) I will use the patterns loaded for \language=0 instead. ) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/generic/babel/english.ldf)) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/generic/babel/lheenc.def) (./hebrewtrial.aux) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/generic/babel/lhecmr.fd) (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/latex/ucs/ucsencs.def)kpathsea: Running mktextfm jerus10 mktextfm: Running mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input jerus10 This is METAFONT, Version 2.71828 (Web2C 7.5.3) kpathsea: Running mktexmf jerus10 ! I can't find file `jerus10'. <*> ...=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input jerus10 Please type another input file name ! Emergency stop. <*> ...=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input jerus10 Transcript written on mfput.log. grep: jerus10.log: No such file or directory mktextfm: `mf-nowin -progname=mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input jerus10' failed to make jerus10.tfm. kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. ! Font LHE/cmr/m/n/10=jerus10 at 10.0pt not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not fou nd. relax l.10 \R{ ?????} ? (/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.gwtex/tex/latex/ucs/data/uni-5.def) [1{/usr/local /teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map Warning: /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/pdflatex (file /usr/ local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map): fontmap entr y for `mtex' already exists, duplicates ignored Warning: /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/pdflatex (file /usr/ local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map): fontmap entr y for `mtsy' already exists, duplicates ignored Warning: /usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/pdflatex (file /usr/ local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/map/pdftex/updmap/pdftex.map): fontmap entr y for `rmtmi' already exists, duplicates ignored }] (./hebrewtrial.aux) ) Output written on hebrewtrial.pdf (1 page, 5239 bytes). Transcript written on hebrewtrial.log. I have tried a *clean* install of the entire TeX distribution, but this hasn't helped. Additionally, Finder.app does not find ``jerus'' and typing ``locate jerus'' under Terminal.app returns: /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex4ht/ht-fonts/iso8859/8/hebrew/ jerus.htf /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex4ht/ht-fonts/unicode/hebrew/ jerus.htf Would appreciate any help. Thanks, Ben --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From news at bens.ws Tue May 31 20:37:28 2005 From: news at bens.ws (Ben Galin) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 17:37:28 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Missing Hebrew font (jerus10)? In-Reply-To: <4bf25c670bd34894d3f1e81b6eb4772d@bens.ws> References: <4bf25c670bd34894d3f1e81b6eb4772d@bens.ws> Message-ID: On May 31, 2005, at 5:33 PM, Ben Galin wrote: > Hello gang, [snip] Yeah, I don't know why it's right-aligned. Sorry about that. -Ben --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From herbs at wideopenwest.com Tue May 31 21:15:04 2005 From: herbs at wideopenwest.com (Herbert Schulz) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 20:15:04 -0500 Subject: [OS X TeX] Missing Hebrew font (jerus10)? In-Reply-To: <4bf25c670bd34894d3f1e81b6eb4772d@bens.ws> References: <4bf25c670bd34894d3f1e81b6eb4772d@bens.ws> Message-ID: On May 31, 2005, at 7:33 PM, Ben Galin wrote: > > ! I can't find file `jerus10'. > <*> ...=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input jerus10 > > Please type another input file name > ! Emergency stop. > <*> ...=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input jerus10 > > Howdy, The most obvious thing is that you seem to be missing the jeru10 font. I can't find it on CTAN so I have no idea where you got it originally. The .htm file is used by tex4ht to produce html, etc., from LaTeX input. Good Luck, Herb Schulz (herbs at wideopenwest.com) --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From news at bens.ws Tue May 31 21:37:32 2005 From: news at bens.ws (Ben Galin) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 18:37:32 -0700 Subject: [OS X TeX] Missing Hebrew font (jerus10)? In-Reply-To: References: <4bf25c670bd34894d3f1e81b6eb4772d@bens.ws> Message-ID: Hi Herb, On May 31, 2005, at 6:15 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: > > Howdy, > > The most obvious thing is that you seem to be missing the jeru10 font. > I can't find it on CTAN so I have no idea where you got it originally. > The .htm file is used by tex4ht to produce html, etc., from LaTeX > input. Thanks for the quick reply. I have no idea how/if I originally got the font. I might have downloaded it from somewhere, but I honestly don't remember and Google doesn't return any terribly useful hit. Question remains, how would one go about typesetting a LaTeX document that contains Hebrew under the teTeX/gwTeX distribution? I imagine that a default font is included in the distribution, and I have done a full install. Could it be that something is messed up in the font mapping and that another font should be used rather than jerus? Thanks for the help. Much appreciated. -Ben --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From jackson at msrce.howard.edu Tue May 31 22:52:04 2005 From: jackson at msrce.howard.edu (Aaron Jackson) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 22:52:04 -0400 Subject: [OS X TeX] Missing Hebrew font (jerus10)? In-Reply-To: References: <4bf25c670bd34894d3f1e81b6eb4772d@bens.ws> Message-ID: On May 31, 2005, at 9:37 PM, Ben Galin wrote: > Hi Herb, > > On May 31, 2005, at 6:15 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote: >> >> Howdy, >> >> The most obvious thing is that you seem to be missing the jeru10 >> font. I can't find it on CTAN so I have no idea where you got it >> originally. The .htm file is used by tex4ht to produce html, etc., >> from LaTeX input. > > Thanks for the quick reply. I have no idea how/if I originally got > the font. I might have downloaded it from somewhere, but I honestly > don't remember and Google doesn't return any terribly useful hit. > > Question remains, how would one go about typesetting a LaTeX document > that contains Hebrew under the teTeX/gwTeX distribution? I imagine > that a default font is included in the distribution, and I have done a > full install. Could it be that something is messed up in the font > mapping and that another font should be used rather than jerus? I have no clue since I have never used them before, but somebody asked the list about this before. Try looking at: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/language/hebrew/cjhebrew/ Aaron --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: From j.hegewald at tu-bs.de Tue May 31 09:35:24 2005 From: j.hegewald at tu-bs.de (Jan Hegewald) Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 15:35:24 +0200 Subject: iTeXMac (was [OS X TeX] Texshop: strange) In-Reply-To: <1gwmaw5.1bxm8nr383j5aM%lists@juliensalort.org> References: <1gwmaw5.1bxm8nr383j5aM%lists@juliensalort.org> Message-ID: <653A1E45-98DF-433B-A912-EF4EB4C52B61@tu-bs.de> Hello, Am 15.05.2005 um 19:17 schrieb Julien Salort: > Tristan (Paris) wrote: > > > >> Strange behaviour of the editor (fonts problem) and incapicity of the >> pdf viewer to show pdf in their all, since Tiger... I also use again >> TeXShop insteed of iTeXMac. >> >> > > I've noticed the font problem too. > There is far too much space between the letters. I also get the strange spacing in iTeXMac when not in 'Basic Text Editor Typesetter' mode. As a workaround I set Kerning to 1 in Source Attributes preferences. j --------------------- Info --------------------- Mac-TeX Website: http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/ & FAQ: http://latex.yauh.de/faq/ TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq List Post: