From dan.emacs at gmail.com  Wed Feb 28 08:34:43 2024
From: dan.emacs at gmail.com (Dan Eriksen)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 14:34:43 +0100
Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 3.6 + MacOs Ventura 13.6.4 + SPC + TAB
Message-ID: <CAAHDGLGM8ANSW8APoeNn5MXs7T-EMFb3dd1tqoWEQG1WQMzhPw@mail.gmail.com>

After updating my iMac to MacOs Ventura 13.6.4 and my emacs to Aquamacs
3.6, the spacebar and tab key (SPC and TAB) do not work anymore.

However, a space can be achieved with a combination of shift and spacebar
(?SPC), and a "set mark" with C-SPC (^SPC) but the spacebar does not work
on its own.
However spacebar with a double click seames seems to provide a
<toggle-frame-maximized> or more likely a <toggle-max-frame>  (-;

I tried to (global-set-key [(? )] 'spacebar) in the Preferences.el
It prevented shift spacebar to work as a spacebar, but spacebar still did
not work.

And  (define-key global-map (kbd "<SPC>") 'self-insert-command)  gave no
result.

In all other applications (other than emacs) the keyboard works correctly.

I would be grateful if you could suggest a solution to this problem (TAB
and SPC)

Miscellaneous
'C-h k shift space' gives the explanation: "SPC (translated from ?SPC) runs
the command self-insert-command (found in global-map)"

-- 
Med venlig hilsen

Dan Eriksen
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From Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE  Wed Feb 28 12:00:22 2024
From: Peter_Dyballa at Web.DE (Peter Dyballa)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 18:00:22 +0100
Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 3.6 + MacOs Ventura 13.6.4 + SPC + TAB
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> Am 28.02.2024 um 14:34 schrieb Dan Eriksen <dan.emacs at gmail.com>:
> 
> Miscellaneous
> 'C-h k shift space' gives the explanation: "SPC (translated from ?SPC) runs the command self-insert-command (found in global-map)"

This says that pressing both keys was correctly received. The problem is that afterwards, after detection, something, a keymap, is translating the input to something different.

<SPACE> or "?" (OPEN BOX) produces different actions in different modes. Do you know dired or read-only buffers? Dired, C-x d, is a directory viewer. <SPACE> does a next or C-n, down one line/file/directory, and  <S-SPACE> or <?SPACE> performs previous or C-p, up one line/file/directory.

When in dired-mode on some text or graphics file (with 100 or more lines) you can visit it in read-only mode by pressing "v". With <SPACE> or <?SPACE> you scroll up or down the contents, with "q" you quit, close the buffer.

Can you check in which particular mode <SPACE> does not work? In calendar-mode <SPACE> is "scroll-other-window (up)". Have you assigned new bindings to modifier keys? Shift is one of them?

--

Greetings

  Pete

"When you breathe, you inspire. When you do not breathe, you expire."


From ogus at math.berkeley.edu  Thu Feb 29 00:23:11 2024
From: ogus at math.berkeley.edu (Arthur E Ogus)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 21:23:11 -0800
Subject: [OS X Emacs] Aquamacs 3.6 + MacOs Ventura 13.6.4 + SPC + TAB
In-Reply-To: <CAAHDGLGM8ANSW8APoeNn5MXs7T-EMFb3dd1tqoWEQG1WQMzhPw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAAHDGLGM8ANSW8APoeNn5MXs7T-EMFb3dd1tqoWEQG1WQMzhPw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B438D588-8B8B-47A9-B49A-980AAACE7C0E@math.berkeley.edu>

I was interested in seeing this message, because I am considering updating to Ventura from Monterey, am in the middle
of a big writing project, for which Aquamacs is vital.  I do have a trial version of this setup on an external disk, and just
experimented with that.  I don?t see the problem occurring  on my setup, altoughj  I did not test extensively
In latex mode, the space bar works fine, and Tab seems to work in the scratch buffer.  (What it does in Latex mode
seems complicated.) I am running Ventura 13.6.4 and


Aquamacs 3.6  GNU Emacs 25.3.50.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin20.6.0, NS appkit-2022.60 Version 11.6 (Build 20G165))
dated 2021-12-24 rev. 04752ba87a8f3f0677e904e833a1cef8fe38897a
Copyright (C) 2017 Free Software Foundation, Inc.

Still, I need to be cautious, and am awaiting further news on this issue.

best,

Arthur Ogus





> On Feb 28, 2024, at 5:34 AM, Dan Eriksen <dan.emacs at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> After updating my iMac to MacOs Ventura 13.6.4 and my emacs to Aquamacs 3.6, the spacebar and tab key (SPC and TAB) do not work anymore.
> 
> However, a space can be achieved with a combination of shift and spacebar (?SPC), and a "set mark" with C-SPC (^SPC) but the spacebar does not work on its own.
> However spacebar with a double click seames seems to provide a <toggle-frame-maximized> or more likely a <toggle-max-frame>  (-;
> 
> I tried to (global-set-key [(? )] 'spacebar) in the Preferences.el
> It prevented shift spacebar to work as a spacebar, but spacebar still did not work.
> 
> And  (define-key global-map (kbd "<SPC>") 'self-insert-command)  gave no result.
> 
> In all other applications (other than emacs) the keyboard works correctly.
> 
> I would be grateful if you could suggest a solution to this problem (TAB and SPC)
> 
> Miscellaneous
> 'C-h k shift space' gives the explanation: "SPC (translated from ?SPC) runs the command self-insert-command (found in global-map)"
> 
> -- 
> Med venlig hilsen
> 
> Dan Eriksen
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
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