MacOSX-TeX Digest #245 - 02/23/02
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MacOSX-TeX Digest #245 - Saturday, February 23, 2002
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: emacs 21.1
by "Joshua S. Hodas" <hodas at cs.hmc.edu>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] xdvi for MacOS X?
by "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: emacs 21.1
by "Piet van Oostrum" <piet at cs.uu.nl>
Hide/Show in PDF file
by "Hemant K. Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: emacs 21.1
by "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Hide/Show in PDF file
by "Adrian Heathcote" <adrian.heathcote at philosophy.usyd.edu.au>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Hide/Show in PDF file
by "Martin Costabel" <costabel at wanadoo.fr>
OT : iTeXMac link request
by <get86 at mac.com>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] OT : iTeXMac link request
by "Martin Stokhof" <stokhof at hum.uva.nl>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Hide/Show in PDF file
by "Ross Moore" <ross at ics.mq.edu.au>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Hide/Show in PDF file
by "Hemant K. Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Emacs (no X11) with LaTeX installer (experimental)
by "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] landscape mode
by "Ross Moore" <ross at ics.mq.edu.au>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] did this get to the list already?
by "Ross Moore" <ross at ics.mq.edu.au>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: emacs 21.1
From: "Joshua S. Hodas" <hodas at cs.hmc.edu>
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 18:28:30 -0800
>
>I have just finished a nice Applescript wrap around emacs 21 on Aqua
>which allows for drag-and-drop of files to open them, automatic
>loading of all the useful utilities for LaTeX and various stuff. I
>plan to have an installer with all the auctex/latex files and the
>wrapper file soon. I'm travelling this week so be patient.
Could you post the code of the core of this script (the part that
handles the drag and drop) in the meantime? I'd just like to see how
the unix/applescript integration is handled in a simple code example.
That will be enough to get me started.
Thanks,
Josh
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] xdvi for MacOS X?
From: "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 13:09:05 +1030
>Does anyone have xdvi running in MacOS X? I see that it's part of
>teTeX (according to the TETEXDOC.pdf in Gerben's TeX.dmg
>distribution), but I'm not finding it. I'd like to be able to use
>it from XEmacs. I've tried to install it via fink, but it wants to
>reinstall teTeX again, which I'd rather not do.
>
>Thanks!
> Mark
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Hi Mark
I have it working. I don't think it is part of Gerben's distribution
of tetex -- I think that doc is the generic tetex doc. At least
that was the situation 6 months ago when I installed it! As the
other reply noted install system-tetex. Fink will then know that
you have another tetex installed.
Michael
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: emacs 21.1
From: "Piet van Oostrum" <piet at cs.uu.nl>
Date: 23 Feb 2002 14:49:48 +0100
>>>>> Enrico Franconi <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk> (EF) writes:
EF> On February 22, Piet van Oostrum writes:
MG> What drove me to give up on emacs 21.1 and move to Xemacs is the
MG> still extant bug in Aqua Emacs that shell commands (like
MG> executing latex) don't work because the PATH variable isn't set
MG> correctly. I'm sure it'll get fixed eventually.
>>
>> That's the easiests problem to solve. See my previous posting on the
>> .MacOSX/environment.plist
EF> It's even easier than that: just put (shell-command "tcsh")
EF> at the beginning of your .emacs file.
But that wouldn't change the PATH variable in emacs' environment, would it?
>> One thing that bothers me but doesn't stop me from using emacs is
>> that is hangs quite often. E.g. when I open a new .tex file with
>> auctex, it prompts for a master file, and then it hangs.
EF> You probably have a wrong configuration, since it does not happen with
EF> me.
What kind of configuration would that be?
I only get a hang when I open an empty (or create a new) .tex file, not
when it prompts for the master file of an existing .tex file. So I always
have to be careful not to open a new .tex file. I usually start with an
existing file or a copy of it and delete the contents of it. Or when I have
some TeX code in another buffer I use write-region. But it is annoying.
This happens only in a GUI emacs by the way not in a terminal window.
I also have some hangs when I try to edebug some function, but it happens
more randomly. I have seen other people mentioning problems with edebug.
I would like to get rid of these hangs, and I will try to compile the CVS
version of emacs some time later.
EF> I have just finished a nice Applescript wrap around emacs 21 on Aqua
EF> which allows for drag-and-drop of files to open them, automatic
EF> loading of all the useful utilities for LaTeX and various stuff. I
EF> plan to have an installer with all the auctex/latex files and the
EF> wrapper file soon. I'm travelling this week so be patient.
Do you have a patch for this?
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Subject: Hide/Show in PDF file
From: "Hemant K. Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 09:03:58 -0500
Hi -
I apologize if this is a bit off-topic but I think there might be someone
here who can help.
I'm compiling my latex files with tetex (under osx), and want to produce a
PDF file (slides) in which I want the following effect:
I want certain text to stay hidden until I do something (eg mouseover,
click, or whatever). How is this done? I believe hyperref might have
something in this regard, and I've tried hyperref Forms but couldn't get it
to work. If somebody has a sample file, or code, etc. that would really
help.
Thanks
- Hemant
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: emacs 21.1
From: "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 09:22:23 +0000
On February 22, Joshua S. Hodas writes:
> Could you post the code of the core of this script (the part that
> handles the drag and drop) in the meantime? I'd just like to see how
> the unix/applescript integration is handled in a simple code
> example. That will be enough to get me started.
--- This makes use of the 'OSX PowerAddOns Lite.osax' scripting addition
on open names
set file_list to ""
repeat with filename in names
set file_list to file_list & "\"" & convert_filepath(filename) & "\" "
end repeat
try
Shell "tcsh -c '/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -l ~/.emacs-21-dist " & file_list & " &';kill -9 " & (Get My PID)
on error
quit
end try
end open
on run
try
Shell "tcsh -c '/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs -l ~/.emacs-21-dist &';kill -9 " & (Get My PID)
on error
quit
end try
end run
on convert_filepath(this_filepath)
set this_filepath to this_filepath as string
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to ":"
set the path_segments to every text item of this_filepath
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to "/"
set this_filepath to "/" & (the path_segments as string)
set AppleScript's text item delimiters to ""
return this_filepath
end convert_filepath
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University of Manchester - http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~franconi/
Department of Computer Science - Phone: +44 (161) 275 6170
Manchester M13 9PL, UK - Fax: +44 (161) 275 6204
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Hide/Show in PDF file
From: "Adrian Heathcote" <adrian.heathcote at philosophy.usyd.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 02:25:56 +1100
Hermant
what you seem to need are Comments---what were called Annotations in pdf
1.3. They would appear in the way you want. Maybe someone knows how to
produce them in pdftex.
Adrian Heathcote
On Sunday, February 24, 2002, at 01:03 AM, Hemant K. Bhargava wrote:
> Hi -
>
> I apologize if this is a bit off-topic but I think there might be
> someone here who can help.
>
> I'm compiling my latex files with tetex (under osx), and want to
> produce a PDF file (slides) in which I want the following effect:
>
> I want certain text to stay hidden until I do something (eg mouseover,
> click, or whatever). How is this done? I believe hyperref might have
> something in this regard, and I've tried hyperref Forms but couldn't
> get it to work. If somebody has a sample file, or code, etc. that would
> really help.
>
> Thanks
>
> - Hemant
>
>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Hide/Show in PDF file
From: "Martin Costabel" <costabel at wanadoo.fr>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 18:27:02 +0100
"Hemant K. Bhargava" wrote:
> I want certain text to stay hidden until I do something (eg mouseover,
> click, or whatever). How is this done? I believe hyperref might have
> something in this regard, and I've tried hyperref Forms but couldn't get it
> to work. If somebody has a sample file, or code, etc. that would really
> help.
You might want to look at the texpower package:
http://ls1-www.cs.uni-dortmund.de/~lehmke/texpower/
It's also in Fink: "fink install texpower"
--
Martin
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Subject: OT : iTeXMac link request
From: <get86 at mac.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 17:14:31 -0500
where the heck it iTeXMac?
(a Google search doesn't show it?)
thank you.
Ted Rogers
"Fading out is something you when you don't have any specific
ending in mind."
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] OT : iTeXMac link request
From: "Martin Stokhof" <stokhof at hum.uva.nl>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 23:23:12 +0100
At 17:14 -0500 on 23/02/02, <get86 at mac.com> wrote:
>where the heck it iTeXMac?
Try this:
http://www.u-bourgogne.fr/monge/j.laurens/iTeXMac/
Martin Stokhof
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Hide/Show in PDF file
From: "Ross Moore" <ross at ics.mq.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 09:35:29 +1100 (EST)
> Hermant
>
> what you seem to need are Comments---what were called Annotations in pdf
> 1.3. They would appear in the way you want. Maybe someone knows how to
> produce them in pdftex.
Yes; there are some of us who know how to do this.
However it's not so straightforward, and probably doesn't
achieve what you really want to see.
Better is to use a presentation package like TeXPower
(as suggested already).
This does not Show/Hide fields directly.
Instead it allows you to use the same material easily
on multiple pages.
For example, one page has some material typeset nicely,
with a blank region.
The next page has indentical material to the first page,
but with the blank region now occupied.
A third page may have that extra region blank again,
or occupied by something else, or with some of the words
highlighted, or in a different colour.
With smooth, or perhaps fancy, transitions between the pages
you get the effect of the extra material appearing magically
in place. (You need to view the document in Full-Screen mode
for this effect, otherwise there is an extra refresh that
destroys the smoothness.)
If you really want to show/hide text fields, then you need to
work with embedded JavaScript. The problem with this is that
are restricted to simple fixed-font text strings within the fields.
You cannot have properly typeset information, such as mathematics.
To explore this route, do a websearch for "AcroTeX" by Donald P. Story.
He recently released a LaTeX package to help do this kind of thing.
Hope this helps,
Ross Moore
> Adrian Heathcote
>
>
> On Sunday, February 24, 2002, at 01:03 AM, Hemant K. Bhargava wrote:
>
> > Hi -
> >
> > I apologize if this is a bit off-topic but I think there might be
> > someone here who can help.
> >
> > I'm compiling my latex files with tetex (under osx), and want to
> > produce a PDF file (slides) in which I want the following effect:
> >
> > I want certain text to stay hidden until I do something (eg mouseover,
> > click, or whatever). How is this done? I believe hyperref might have
> > something in this regard, and I've tried hyperref Forms but couldn't
> > get it to work. If somebody has a sample file, or code, etc. that would
> > really help.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > - Hemant
> >
> >
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Hide/Show in PDF file
From: "Hemant K. Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 18:06:43 -0500
Ross and Martin -
Thanks for your advice. For the moment I have been able to work with
TexPower, as recommended by Martin ... it's easy, but does have the effect
of multiple pages. Acrotex and embedded Javascript surely lie in my future
...
- Hemant
--On Sunday, February 24, 2002 9:35 AM +1100 Ross Moore
<ross at ics.mq.edu.au> wrote:
>> Hermant
>>
>> what you seem to need are Comments---what were called Annotations in pdf
>> 1.3. They would appear in the way you want. Maybe someone knows how to
>> produce them in pdftex.
>
> Yes; there are some of us who know how to do this.
> However it's not so straightforward, and probably doesn't
> achieve what you really want to see.
>
> Better is to use a presentation package like TeXPower
> (as suggested already).
>
> This does not Show/Hide fields directly.
> Instead it allows you to use the same material easily
> on multiple pages.
>
> For example, one page has some material typeset nicely,
> with a blank region.
> The next page has indentical material to the first page,
> but with the blank region now occupied.
>
> A third page may have that extra region blank again,
> or occupied by something else, or with some of the words
> highlighted, or in a different colour.
>
> With smooth, or perhaps fancy, transitions between the pages
> you get the effect of the extra material appearing magically
> in place. (You need to view the document in Full-Screen mode
> for this effect, otherwise there is an extra refresh that
> destroys the smoothness.)
>
>
> If you really want to show/hide text fields, then you need to
> work with embedded JavaScript. The problem with this is that
> are restricted to simple fixed-font text strings within the fields.
> You cannot have properly typeset information, such as mathematics.
>
> To explore this route, do a websearch for "AcroTeX" by Donald P. Story.
> He recently released a LaTeX package to help do this kind of thing.
>
>
>
> Hope this helps,
>
> Ross Moore
>
>
>> On Sunday, February 24, 2002, at 01:03 AM, Hemant K. Bhargava wrote:
>>
>> > Hi -
>> >
>> > I apologize if this is a bit off-topic but I think there might be
>> > someone here who can help.
>> >
>> > I'm compiling my latex files with tetex (under osx), and want to
>> > produce a PDF file (slides) in which I want the following effect:
>> >
>> > I want certain text to stay hidden until I do something (eg mouseover,
>> > click, or whatever). How is this done? I believe hyperref might have
>> > something in this regard, and I've tried hyperref Forms but couldn't
>> > get it to work. If somebody has a sample file, or code, etc. that
>> > would really help.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > - Hemant
>> >
>>
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Subject: Emacs (no X11) with LaTeX installer (experimental)
From: "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 00:26:43 +0000
Download at: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~franconi/mac-emacs/
This is a wrapper around the emacs-21.1 for MacOSX available at
http://www.porkrind.org/emacs/
providing a complete fully customisable LaTeX editing environment.
This is intended only to play with LaTeX on the MacOSX port of
emacs-21. Do not take it seriously, since the port is still alpha
software. It is nice, since it does not require X11. However, if you
want a really robust environment, you should use it with emacs-20.7 on
X11 (from fink); I use it every day since months. If somebody is
interested, I can post the installer for emacs-20.7 on X11 as well.
To install type from a terminal:
sudo ./mac-emacs-install machine-name
where machine-name is the name of your computer;
type your password when requested.
The installer will:
- install the mac-emacs program on the Desktop
- install "OSX PowerAddOns Lite.osax" in /System/Library/ScriptingAdditions
- install the mac-emacs library in ~/Library/mac-emacs
(it overwrites a previous installation)
- create the symbolic link /machine-name --> /
Notes:
- you can drag-and-drop files on the mac-emacs icon.
- mac-emacs requires to have the Emacs program installed in /Applications.
- mac-emacs requires a working installation of teTeX and ghostview (no X11).
- mac-emacs can be copied anywhere.
- mac-emacs loads automatically the file ~/.mac-emacs if it exists.
You can study the file ~/Library/mac-emacs/site-lisp/loadup.el
- To edit the LaTeX Command menu, look at
~/Library/mac-emacs/site-lisp/auctex/tex-site.el
- You can customise also the dvipdf converter in
~/Library/mac-emacs/bin/dvipdf
- To have full spelling checking capabilities, install "ispell" from
fink. The latest precompiled binary is usually available with dselect.
- If you have emacs for X11 installed, you can use it as follows:
emacs -q -l ~/Library/mac-emacs/site-lisp/loadup.el
Documented limitations of http://www.porkrind.org/emacs/ :
- This port of Emacs does not support 3 buttons mice.
- Serious bug: if you start a subordinate process (for example a LaTeX
compilation), the window for the output of that process is not
always updated to the end. This means that the auctex interface does
not always correctly capture the end of the process, even if it is
finished.
To play with it, open a .tex file; from the command menu (or with C-c
C-c) select "latex" and, if the compilation is successful, then "view".
COMMENTS and SUGGESTIONS WELCOME!
Enrico Franconi - franconi at cs.man.ac.uk
University of Manchester - http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~franconi/
Department of Computer Science - Phone: +44 (161) 275 6170
Manchester M13 9PL, UK - Fax: +44 (161) 275 6204
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] landscape mode
From: "Ross Moore" <ross at ics.mq.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:41:12 +1100 (EST)
> Guys:
> I am sorry to be wasting your disk space with something that has -- I
> believe -- been discussed before, but as usual I realized a problem
> only when I faced it.
>
> The question is this: I have a slide document that starts
>
> \documentclass[landscape]{slides}
\usepackage{hyperref}
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^----- try this, even if you don't use
any of the special features that
the hyperref package provides.
>
> However, when I typeset it with TeXShop (and iTeXMac, for that
> matter), the final output is vertical, with the obvious cropping of
> long equations, etc.
> I tried changing the page setup (within the program) and typesetting
> again, but unsurprisingly that changed nothing. I tried looking at
> the pdf file with Acrobat, again to find vertical slides.
The problem is that you need to rotate the paper,
not just change the shape of the typesetting rectangle.
With pdfTeX this means setting
\pdfpageheight and \pdfpagewidth
to agree with the \paperheight and \paperwidth parameters
(not the \textheight and \textwidth ).
BTW, the "Page Setup" is irrelevant, as this is not connected
to the coding inside the TeX source of your document
--- though perhaps it could be; it would have to be done
carefully, to not conflict with coding from packages.
> Can anyone remind me how to fix this?
If simply loading hyperref isn't enough, then in LaTeX try:
\AtBeginDocument{\pdfpageheight=\paperheight
\pdfpagewidth=\paperwidth}
In Plain TeX, just drop the \AtBeginDocument{....} wrapping.
> Thanks!
Hope this helps,
Ross Moore
> paolo
>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] did this get to the list already?
From: "Ross Moore" <ross at ics.mq.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 11:47:56 +1100 (EST)
> if not, i need some help please?
>
> If I use TeXShop to make a pdf file, then transfer that
> file, using Scp via Telnet SSH, to my home directory on
> hilbert, and open the result with acroread, I get a blank
> 6 page document (but one with lots of data). It's as though
> the required fonts are missing.
Sounds like the transfer was done in text-mode, not binary.
There's probably a preferences file somewhere that you can set
to ensure the correct mode is used with PDF files.
> Can pdf files be safely transferred from OS X to Solaris?
Yes; but you must ensure a binary transfer.
Sorry, I don't know how to configure scp for this.
I'd be very pleased to find out how.
Hope this helps,
Ross Moore
>
> TIA
>
>
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