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MacOSX-TeX Digest #242 - Wednesday, February 20, 2002
Re: Trying to get something Alpha-ish in Mac OS X
by "Eric Hsu" <erichsu at math.sfsu.edu>
did this get to the list already?
by <get86 at mac.com>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] did this get to the list already?
by "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Two Things
by "Adrian Heathcote" <adrian.heathcote at philosophy.usyd.edu.au>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Two Things
by <W.Northcott at unsw.edu.au>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Trying to get something Alpha-ish in Mac OS X
by "david craig" <dac at panix.com>
tex4ht
by <Bernadette.Perrin-Riou at math.u-psud.fr>
Re: fink and latex2html
by "david craig" <dac at panix.com>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: Trying to get something Alpha-ish in Mac OS X
by "Martin Costabel" <costabel at wanadoo.fr>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Dutch hyphenation
by "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] tex4ht
by "Martin Costabel" <costabel at wanadoo.fr>
trouble shooting TexShop file to Solaris
by <get86 at mac.com>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Trying to get something Alpha-ish in Mac OS X
by "Hemant K. Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: Trying to get something Alpha-ish in Mac OS X
by "Hemant K. Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Including PDF graphics - bounding boxes
by "Sam Broderick" <sbroderick at mac.com>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Dutch hyphenation
by "Martin Stokhof" <stokhof at hum.uva.nl>
RE: [Mac OS X TeX] Including PDF graphics - bounding boxes
by "Maarten Sneep" <sneep at nat.vu.nl>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Dutch hyphenation
by "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
iTeXMac
by "Jerome Dubois" <jer_dubois at libertysurf.fr>
landscape mode
by "Paolo Ghirardato" <paolo at hss.caltech.edu>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Dutch hyphenation
by "Martin Stokhof" <stokhof at hum.uva.nl>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: Trying to get something Alpha-ish in Mac OS X
by <jguyer at his.com>
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Subject: Re: Trying to get something Alpha-ish in Mac OS X
From: "Eric Hsu" <erichsu at math.sfsu.edu>
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:47:32 -0800
I used to use Alpha all the time in OS9 with OzTeX. It was in fact
the last Classic program I gave up, and only because (at the time)
there were conflicts between Classic and Palm Desktop.
Anyway, I tried BBEdit for a while, but never quite got the hang of
the glossary thing. I'm now using Pepper (due to a recommendation on
this list), and I'm almost very happy with it. (I was happy enough to
buy it!) I love its flexibility defining keystroke shortcuts, and it
even includes HTML Tidy. It works okay with OzTeX. It's speedy and
pretty solid.
Things I miss from Alpha:
1. The ability to tab out of parentheses to the big-dots.
2. More pre-built LaTeX templates... I forget options and names.
3. (When it worked,) the nice reformatting and tabbing of code.
Things I don't miss:
1. Loading time of Classic.
2. Difficulty of changing keybindings.
3. Difficulty of changing fonts and line endings (Mac v. Unix v. DOS).
4. Slightly flaky syntax coloring with respect to quoted text.
The tabbing to big-dots is really the only thing I actively miss.
It's amazing how that small feature can speed up your entry.
Rumor has it that Pepper 4 will be coming out someday. I wonder
whether it will come out before Alpha X (which I would surely try if
it came out...).
Let me know if you find something even better! (I'm not learning
Emacs... sorry.)
- Eric
--
Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
San Francisco State University
erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu/
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Subject: did this get to the list already?
From: <get86 at mac.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 20:52:27 -0500
if not, i need some help please?
If I use TeXShop to make a pdf file, then transfer that
file, using Scp via Telnet SSH, to my home directory on
hilbert, and open the result with acroread, I get a blank
6 page document (but one with lots of data). It's as though
the required fonts are missing.
Can pdf files be safely transferred from OS X to Solaris?
TIA
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] did this get to the list already?
From: "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:45:21 +1030
>If I use TeXShop to make a pdf file, then transfer that
>file, using Scp via Telnet SSH, to my home directory on
>hilbert, and open the result with acroread, I get a blank
>6 page document (but one with lots of data). It's as though
>the required fonts are missing.
>
>Can pdf files be safely transferred from OS X to Solaris?
I just tried the same thing but with ftp. I could see
the pdf OK with acroread. It seems to be Acroread 4.0 and
SunOS 5.5.1 Generic May 1996.
Michael
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Subject: Two Things
From: "Adrian Heathcote" <adrian.heathcote at philosophy.usyd.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:54:14 +1100
All
(1) System 10.1.3 has been released this very hour.
(2) Where can one download the carbon emacs from? I haven't yet seen a
site mentioned.
Cheers
Adrian Heathcote
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Two Things
From: <W.Northcott at unsw.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:18:49 +1000
>(2) Where can one download the carbon emacs from? I haven't yet seen a
>site mentioned.
http://www.porkrind.org/emacs/
Bill Northcott
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Trying to get something Alpha-ish in Mac OS X
From: "david craig" <dac at panix.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:38:41 -0500 (EST)
I, too, am using Alpha in Classic mode. By and large it's quite
seamless. Alpha X is on the way, so I've seen no good reason to walk
away from a tool with such unparalleled richness and depth. I've become
far too dependent on it to have the slightest interest in changing now.
David Craig
<http://www.panix.com/~dac/>
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Subject: tex4ht
From: <Bernadette.Perrin-Riou at math.u-psud.fr>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 07:58:33 +0100
I have a similar question with Tex4ht
(http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/). Does someone use it on
MacOSX ?
Bernadette Perrin-Riou
33 (0)1 69 15 70 96
Bat. 425, Mathématiques
Université Paris Sud
F-91 405 Orsay Cedex
France
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Subject: Re: fink and latex2html
From: "david craig" <dac at panix.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 03:10:00 -0500 (EST)
The suggestions made here have worked -- sort-of. The change noted to
/sw/lib/latex2html/l2hconf.pm *does* let latex2html run, but no images
are generated.
Indeed, during fink rebuild latex2html I get
Error: could not determine gs version
Warning: Will not be able to generate images due to above failure.
(I do have fink's ghostscript installed in addition to the copy that
comes with Gerben's tetex, presumably due to system-tetex, since I
didn't do it deliberately:
fink list ghostscript
Reading package info...
Information about 320 packages read in 2 seconds.
i ghostscript 7.02-2 Interpreter for the PostScript language and...
i ghostscript-fon 6.0-2 Standard fonts for Ghostscript
ghostscript-nox 7.02-1 Interpreter for the PostScript language and...
ghostscript6 6.01-1 Interpreter for the PostScript language and...
ghostscript6-no 6.01-1 Interpreter for the PostScript language and...
i x-ghostscript-f 20010927-2 Allows ghostscript fonts to be used within ..)
It looks like things are close, then, but I'm not sure what to do about
the ghostscript thing. Any ideas?
Again, since I'm on the digest version of the list personal CC's would
be appreciated.
Thanks,
David Craig
<http://www.panix.com/~dac/>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: Trying to get something Alpha-ish in Mac OS X
From: "Martin Costabel" <costabel at wanadoo.fr>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:09:59 +0100
Eric Hsu wrote:
> Let me know if you find something even better! (I'm not learning
> Emacs... sorry.)
You ask a question and say immediately that you don't want to hear the
answer. Can't be helped, I guess.
--
Martin
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Dutch hyphenation
From: "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:45:25 +0100
You can find out which copy (if there are multiple) of language.dat is
being used by typing
kpsewhich language.dat
I distribute one with USEnglish, french, german and dutch active.
G
On Tuesday, February 19, 2002, at 09:11 , Martin Stokhof wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm having trouble with dutch hyphenation. I installed Gerben Wierda's
> latest TexLive-teTeX distribution (through the link on the TeXShop home
> page) and observed that dutch hyphenation no longer worked. I checked
> the language.dat file, but dutch was not commented out (as it was not
> before I installed the latest version).
>
> Any help would be appreciated. Thanks in advance,
>
> Martin Stokhof
>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] tex4ht
From: "Martin Costabel" <costabel at wanadoo.fr>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:46:37 +0100
Bernadette.Perrin-Riou at math.u-psud.fr wrote:
>
> I have a similar question with Tex4ht
> (http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~gurari/TeX4ht/). Does someone use it on
> MacOSX ?
There is a Fink package tex4ht, and Gerben Wierda's TeX.dmg seems to
contain tex4ht, too, in its recent versions.
--
Martin
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Subject: trouble shooting TexShop file to Solaris
From: <get86 at mac.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 06:59:52 -0500
if my professor asks me again why his Scp of a TexShop pdf file over to his
Solaris account, and then opening in Acroread only shows lots of code...
what should i look for as possible problems?
:)
any ideas?
TIA
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Trying to get something Alpha-ish in Mac OS X
From: "Hemant K. Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 07:58:14 -0500
Jan -
The following question may be naive, but then I am just a simple TeX user
who wants to get the most out of Alpha.
The "Atchange" script looks useful, but I'd like to be able to save files
without always compiling too. What I'd like to do is to define other macros
or menu items to call pdftex (or other tex commands). E.g., how do you set
the Command-T macro to call tetex (or your favorite TeX program) rather
than the default OzTeX?
Thanks
- Hemant
--On Tuesday, February 19, 2002 6:41 PM +0100 "J.Huelsmann"
<J.Huelsmann at tu-bs.de> wrote:
> Hi Peter.
> ...
>> I keep thinking there must be a way of telling Alpha to emit some Apple
>> Events which could (via shell commands, say) run command-line TeX, so I
>> could use some-
>> thing other than OzTeX, if I wanted to... but I don't have the time
>> to learn Tcl in
>> addition to Applescript and Bourne shell.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Peter
>
> You can use the perl-script atChange to do all the latex-stuff when the
> file is saved with Alpha. In Terminal.app you can type something like
> this: atchange myfile.tex pdftex myfile.tex
> and the file myfile.tex will typeset if you save it.
> Look at http://www.lecb.ncifcrf.gov/~toms/atchange.html for atChange.
> --Jan--
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: Trying to get something Alpha-ish in Mac OS X
From: "Hemant K. Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:01:17 -0500
Eric - and other Alpha fans ..
AlphaX is presently in alpha testing mode, and has all the nice cool
features we all so love. Still a lot of bugs but some good people (I thank
them) are working on fixes.
I'm so happy to see it getting there ... I've become a paid user of Pepper
(also a very nice program), but once AlphaX comes out I'm switching!
- Hemant
--On Tuesday, February 19, 2002 5:47 PM -0800 Eric Hsu
<erichsu at math.sfsu.edu> wrote:
> I used to use Alpha all the time in OS9 with OzTeX. It was in fact the
> last Classic program I gave up, and only because (at the time) there were
> conflicts between Classic and Palm Desktop.
>
> Anyway, I tried BBEdit for a while, but never quite got the hang of the
> glossary thing. I'm now using Pepper (due to a recommendation on this
> list), and I'm almost very happy with it. (I was happy enough to buy it!)
> I love its flexibility defining keystroke shortcuts, and it even includes
> HTML Tidy. It works okay with OzTeX. It's speedy and pretty solid.
>
> Things I miss from Alpha:
>
> 1. The ability to tab out of parentheses to the big-dots.
> 2. More pre-built LaTeX templates... I forget options and names.
> 3. (When it worked,) the nice reformatting and tabbing of code.
>
> Things I don't miss:
>
> 1. Loading time of Classic.
> 2. Difficulty of changing keybindings.
> 3. Difficulty of changing fonts and line endings (Mac v. Unix v. DOS).
> 4. Slightly flaky syntax coloring with respect to quoted text.
>
> The tabbing to big-dots is really the only thing I actively miss. It's
> amazing how that small feature can speed up your entry.
>
> Rumor has it that Pepper 4 will be coming out someday. I wonder whether
> it will come out before Alpha X (which I would surely try if it came
> out...).
>
> Let me know if you find something even better! (I'm not learning
> Emacs... sorry.)
>
> - Eric
> --
> Eric Hsu, Assistant Professor of Mathematics
> San Francisco State University
> erichsu at math.sfsu.edu
> http://math.sfsu.edu/hsu/
>
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Subject: Including PDF graphics - bounding boxes
From: "Sam Broderick" <sbroderick at mac.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:18:01 +0100
This has been discussed already, but I tried epstopdf with the -hires option
for both an EPSF of a graph produced by Igor and a PS via MacOS X print
dialogue. This gives me a full page PDF, but I don't want the page boundary!
In addition the legend is incorrectly colored beige. Directly via MacOS X
print dialogue gives the legend properly but again with a page boundary.
How do I get just the image?
TIA
Sam Broderick
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Dutch hyphenation
From: "Martin Stokhof" <stokhof at hum.uva.nl>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:22:40 +0100
Gerben & Maarten,
Thanks for the replies to my query.
I used "kpsewhich language.dat" to check which copy is used. It is :
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/generic/config/language.dat
I checked it and it has USEnglish, french, german, ngerman, dutch and
spanish active.
But TeXShop says:
"This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020204 (Web2C 7.3.7)
(./7_werkgroep.tex{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
LaTeX2e <2001/06/01>
Babel <v3.7h> and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german,
ngerman, nohyphenation, loaded."
and complains when I use dutch or spanish.
As for Maarten's suggestion that the language.dat version that
resides in texmf.local can be removed: is that consistent with what
kpsewhich language.dat reveals?
Martin Stokhof
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Subject: RE: [Mac OS X TeX] Including PDF graphics - bounding boxes
From: "Maarten Sneep" <sneep at nat.vu.nl>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:26:50 +0100 (CET)
On 20-Feb-02 Sam Broderick wrote:
# This has been discussed already, but I tried epstopdf with the -hires option
# for both an EPSF of a graph produced by Igor and a PS via MacOS X print
# dialogue. This gives me a full page PDF, but I don't want the page boundary!
# In addition the legend is incorrectly colored beige. Directly via MacOS X
# print dialogue gives the legend properly but again with a page boundary.
#
# How do I get just the image?
Hi,
I tried the following sequence (from the command-line)
take the full-page ps file and push it though
ps2epsi
This will give you an eps with inline preview (in postscript comments, so
programs don't usually see it)
This epsi file can then be processed by epstopdf, giving a nicely cropped pdf
file.
BTW, I never had any problems with eps created by Igor, try to swich off the
preview option when creating the eps. I don't use the -hires option for
epstopdf, maybe that helps too.
Maarten Sneep
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Murphy's Law, supplemental:
Never sleep with anyone crazier than yourself.
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Maarten Sneep
Atomic- and Laser Physics group
vrije Universiteit, amsterdam
The Netherlands
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Dutch hyphenation
From: "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:32:44 +0100
My guess: You need to recreate the formats to get the contents of
language.dat usable.
Type
fmtutil --all
in a Terminal window.
G
PS. I think you can best:
remove the language.dat in texmf.local
run texhash
run fmtutil --all
as the default language.dat contains dutch.
On Wednesday, February 20, 2002, at 02:22 , Martin Stokhof wrote:
> Gerben & Maarten,
>
> Thanks for the replies to my query.
>
> I used "kpsewhich language.dat" to check which copy is used. It is :
>
> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/generic/config/language.dat
>
> I checked it and it has USEnglish, french, german, ngerman, dutch and
> spanish active.
>
> But TeXShop says:
>
> "This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020204 (Web2C 7.3.7)
> (./7_werkgroep.tex{/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/pdftex/config/pdftex.
> cfg}
> LaTeX2e <2001/06/01>
> Babel <v3.7h> and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german,
> ngerman, nohyphenation, loaded."
>
> and complains when I use dutch or spanish.
>
> As for Maarten's suggestion that the language.dat version that resides
> in texmf.local can be removed: is that consistent with what kpsewhich
> language.dat reveals?
>
> Martin Stokhof
>
>
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Subject: iTeXMac
From: "Jerome Dubois" <jer_dubois at libertysurf.fr>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:23:25 +0100
Hi,
I love very much iTeXMac, but how can I change the size of the
characters in the tex editor ?
Thanks,
Jerome
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Subject: landscape mode
From: "Paolo Ghirardato" <paolo at hss.caltech.edu>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:51:06 +0100
Guys:
I am sorry to be wasting your disk space with something that has -- I
believe -- been discussed before, but as usual I realized a problem
only when I faced it.
The question is this: I have a slide document that starts
\documentclass[landscape]{slides}
However, when I typeset it with TeXShop (and iTeXMac, for that
matter), the final output is vertical, with the obvious cropping of
long equations, etc.
I tried changing the page setup (within the program) and typesetting
again, but unsurprisingly that changed nothing. I tried looking at
the pdf file with Acrobat, again to find vertical slides.
Can anyone remind me how to fix this?
Thanks!
paolo
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Dutch hyphenation
From: "Martin Stokhof" <stokhof at hum.uva.nl>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:33:16 +0100
Gerben, Maarten: dank voor de hulp. Ik heb language.dat in
texmf.local verwijderd en de formats opnieuw aangemaakt. Toen ging
het nog niet goed, bij inspectie bleek dat in de language.dat in
texmf dutch toch niet actief was. Daarna was het geen probleem meer.
Nogmaals bedankt: een probleem opgelost en ook weer wat geleerd, wat
wil een mens nog meer? Groet, Martin Stokhof
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: Trying to get something Alpha-ish in Mac OS X
From: <jguyer at his.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 18:09:33 GMT
> Things I miss from Alpha:
:
:
> Things I don't miss:
:
> 3. Difficulty of changing fonts and line endings (Mac v. Unix v. DOS).
I have no argument (and actually share most of your frustrations) with your
other Alpha gripes, but I'm a bit perplexed by this one. Line endings are
changed with a popup in the status bar, which is always displayed, and fonts
are changed via a rather primitive, but not very deeply buried, dialog under
the Config menu.
What's difficult?
> Alpha X (which I would surely try if
> it came out...).
It's in private alfalfa testing right now. I'm not going to guess on release
dates (and I don't particularly recommend believing any such guesses you've
read here
before).
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