MacOSX-TeX Digest #255 - 03/05/02
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MacOSX-TeX Digest #255 - Tuesday, March 5, 2002
Adobe save as html
by "John Vokey" <vokey at uleth.ca>
Re: [OS X TeX] Fink and LaTeX2HTML question
by "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs and PATH variable
by "Jan Erik Moström" <lists at mostrom.pp.se>
Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs and PATH variable
by "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
standing ovation
by "Alessandro Languasco" <languasc at math.unipd.it>
Fonts in OSX - TeX
by "Hemant Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] Fonts in OSX - TeX
by "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Re: [OS X TeX] Fonts in OSX - TeX
by "Hemant Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] Fonts in OSX - TeX
by "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Re: [OS X TeX] Fonts in OSX - TeX
by "Matthias Damm" <m.damm at web.de>
Re: [OS X TeX] Fonts in OSX - TeX
by "Hemant Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] Fonts in OSX - TeX
by "Adrian Heathcote" <adrian.heathcote at philosophy.usyd.edu.au>
A fix for the slowdown (was Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs?)
by "Mark Guzdial" <guzdial at cc.gatech.edu>
Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs and PATH variable
by "Jan Erik Moström" <lists at mostrom.pp.se>
BibDesk
by "Jerome Dubois" <jer_dubois at libertysurf.fr>
Re: BibDesk
by "Michael McCracken" <michael_mccracken at mac.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] Fonts in OSX - TeX
by "Ross Moore" <ross at ics.mq.edu.au>
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Subject: Adobe save as html
From: "John Vokey" <vokey at uleth.ca>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:54:43 -0700
Doesn't work on my system---just the usual options come up after
"Save As...", no html or xml, even though the plugin is
installed. Do I need to do something special to activate it?
On Sunday, March 3, 2002, at 06:00 PM, TeX on Mac OS X Mailing
List wrote:
>> um, I must have missed something...how can I save out a pdf as
>> HTML with
>> acrobat?
>
> um, use Save As. :)
>
> No, actually, that isn't the whole story. There is a free plug in for
> Acrobat, available from the Adobe site, called Save as XML. But it
> actually allows you to save pdfs as HTML 3.20 or 4.01, or XHTML or XML
> 1.00. It works with the most recent versions of Acrobat and has
> recently
> been revised (though it is called a Beta, it has been called that for
> over a year.)
>
> At any rate it is one way to go.
>
> Adrian Heathcote
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Fink and LaTeX2HTML question
From: "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 15:00:57 +0100
On Monday, March 4, 2002, at 03:34 , Ross Moore wrote:
> Please include ghostscript7 as an option too.
> I don't know what the problems are that you've experienced with this,
> but it's almost certainly to do with screen displays.
Yes, the new delivery mechanism will enable me to give more choice.
> Besides, the Mac problems will be fixed sometime, so it will be useful
> to have the option available already.
I agree.
G
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs and PATH variable
From: "Jan Erik Moström" <lists at mostrom.pp.se>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:16:41 +0100
At 2002-03-04 22:09, Enrico Franconi <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk> wrote:
>On the other topic of the PATH not being correctly visible from within
>emacs, we are investigating the fact. I call emacs with a "do shell
>script 'tcsh -c'" so in principle all the tcsh environment should be
>visible. For some strange reason, in this case the shell does not
>source the init files as it should do. We are trying to understand
>why. By now, the patch is to set the paths directly in
>/usr/share/init/tcsh/rc. This is an horrible solution and we prefer
>that nobody actually does it! Stay tuned.
Isn't this due to what happens when a shell is started from a Mac OS X
application and not from the terminal ... there is a technote about this from
Apple (I haven't got the URL right now).
Basically, you need to define a XML list with the environment variables (go
to www.barebones.com, look at their FAQ 18 (I think) for BBEdit and there is
a link to the technote).
I had a similar problem with the worksheet in BBEdit but it was fixed when I
followed the directions in the technote.
jem
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Jan Erik Moström jem at mostrom.pp.se www.mostrom.pp.se
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs and PATH variable
From: "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:24:28 +0000
On March 5, Jan Erik Moström writes:
> >On the other topic of the PATH not being correctly visible from within
> >emacs,
>
> Isn't this due to what happens when a shell is started from a Mac OS
> X application and not from the terminal ... there is a technote
> about this from Apple (I haven't got the URL right now).
>
> Basically, you need to define a XML list with the environment
> variables (go to www.barebones.com, look at their FAQ 18 (I think)
> for BBEdit and there is a link to the technote).
I'm perfectly aware of this solution, which I believe is the worst
one. I do NOT want to replicate my long .cshrc file in a XML
file. Moreover, I define many aliases, and have many conditional
statements that would get lost in this way. I really want that my
.cshrc complex script is eventually loaded, since this is what I
expect from it, and this is what is written in the documentation of
any tcsh of the world.
cheers
-- e.
Enrico Franconi - franconi at cs.man.ac.uk
University of Manchester - http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~franconi/
Department of Computer Science - Phone: +44 (161) 275 6170
Manchester M13 9PL, UK - Fax: +44 (161) 275 6204
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Subject: standing ovation
From: "Alessandro Languasco" <languasc at math.unipd.it>
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 07:18:56 +0100
Dear All,
first of all, I am sorry for the Off-Topic... but
I think we have to give a standing ovation to
Gerben for his wonderful work!
The same is also for Richard Koch, Jérôme Laurens and Dirk Olmes!
I daily work with Gerben installation of teTex and with TeXshop
by Richard, Jérôme and Dirk (1.16 is customizable, easy-to-use...
in just one word: fantastic).
I am not able to figure out how could I work
without these softwares.
Thanks to all of you.
Alessandro
____________________________________________________
Alessandro Languasco, Ph. D.
Dipartimento di Matematica Pura e Applicata
Universita' di Padova
Via Belzoni 7
35131 Padova (Italy).
Phone: +39-(0)49-8275958
Fax: +39-(0)49-8275892
E-mail: languasco at math.unipd.it
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Subject: Fonts in OSX - TeX
From: "Hemant Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:49:18 -0500
Hi -
I would appreciate some advice regarding how to manage fonts in my OSX
LaTeX implementation (tetex, TeXShop - on a machine running OSX only, no
Classic).
I've downloaded the CM/PS, AMS/PS and LaTeX screen fonts from Bluesky
(http://www.bluesky.com/download/index.html) -- but what do I do with
these? Are these the correct set of fonts for OSX? Do I need all these
fonts, and where do they go? Are there some documents that can be used
to test the effects of these fonts (i.e., with and without)?
If not these fonts, then which ones? I'm clearly missing something in my
implementation, since I've encountered many display and printing
problems .. in some cases with Acrobat Reader but in other cases also
with Previewer. Sometimes I receive PDF files from others and can't
display or print these. I know I didn't have such problems under OS 9
since I had installed all fonts in proper places.
Thanks in advance ...
- Hemant
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Fonts in OSX - TeX
From: "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 23:26:29 +1030
>Hi -
>
>I would appreciate some advice regarding how to manage fonts in my
>OSX LaTeX implementation (tetex, TeXShop - on a machine running OSX
>only, no Classic).
>
>I've downloaded the CM/PS, AMS/PS and LaTeX screen fonts from
>Bluesky (http://www.bluesky.com/download/index.html) -- but what do
>I do with these? Are these the correct set of fonts for OSX? Do I
>need all these fonts, and where do they go? Are there some documents
>that can be used to test the effects of these fonts (i.e., with and
>without)?
>
>If not these fonts, then which ones? I'm clearly missing something
>in my implementation, since I've encountered many display and
>printing problems .. in some cases with Acrobat Reader but in other
>cases also with Previewer. Sometimes I receive PDF files from others
>and can't display or print these. I know I didn't have such problems
>under OS 9 since I had installed all fonts in proper places.
>
>Thanks in advance ...
>
>- Hemant
>
Hi Hemant,
I don't think you need to do anything for the TeX side of things.
Those three sets of fonts will all come with
teTeX and already be installed in the correct places.
Whenever I have had pdf's I can't read it is because the author
hasn't embedded the ps fonts properly in the
document and so they are bitmaps on screen although they print OK.
So I guess I don't know the answer
to your Acrobat Reader problems.
-- Michael
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Fonts in OSX - TeX
From: "Hemant Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:07:45 -0500
On Tuesday, March 5, 2002, at 07:56 AM, Michael Murray wrote:
>
> Hi Hemant,
>
> I don't think you need to do anything for the TeX side of things. Those
> three sets of fonts will all come with
> teTeX and already be installed in the correct places.
>
> Whenever I have had pdf's I can't read it is because the author hasn't
> embedded the ps fonts properly in the
> document and so they are bitmaps on screen although they print OK. So I
> guess I don't know the answer
> to your Acrobat Reader problems.
>
> -- Michael
Hi Michael,
Thanks for your reply, and for clarifying the issue about fonts and
teTeX.
I follow your argument regarding documents where the author hasn't
embedded fonts properly. However, I have faced printing problems (rare,
admittedly) for some of the documents generated on my own machine! I
think this is restricted to cases where I'm trying to print, say, 4
pages to a sheet. (And I think this one happens in Acrobat, but works
fine within Previewer.) Is this solvable?
Cheers,
- Hemant
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Fonts in OSX - TeX
From: "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 00:10:43 +1030
>
>Hi Michael,
>
>Thanks for your reply, and for clarifying the issue about fonts and teTeX.
>
>I follow your argument regarding documents where the author hasn't
>embedded fonts properly. However, I have faced printing problems
>(rare, admittedly) for some of the documents generated on my own
>machine! I think this is restricted to cases where I'm trying to
>print, say, 4 pages to a sheet. (And I think this one happens in
>Acrobat, but works fine within Previewer.) Is this solvable?
>
>Cheers,
>
>- Hemant
>
Hi Hemant,
As it happens Ross Moore solved this one for me a few days back.
Unfortunately I just flushed all my emails so I can't show you
his - you may still have it.
Ross said to use pdfpages (its part of teTeX). If the file
you want to print is called file.pdf then make a new tex file with
the text
----------
%%pdflatex
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{pdfpages}
\begin{document}
\includepdf[pages=-, nup=4]{file.pdf}
\end{document}
---------------
If its not in the same directory as file.pdf I guess you need a path
in the include pdf command. Run this through TeXShop - the output will
be 4 to a page.
I had to update the file
~/Library/texmf/tex/latex/graphics/pdftex.def
but it tells you where to get it from.
Michael
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_________________________________________________________
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Department of Pure Mathematics Fax: 61+ 8 8303
3696
University of Adelaide Phone: 61+ 8 8303 4174
Australia 5005 Email: mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au
Home Page: http://www.maths.adelaide.edu.au/pure/mmurray
PGP public key:
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_________________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Fonts in OSX - TeX
From: "Matthias Damm" <m.damm at web.de>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:40:38 +0100
At 8:07 Uhr -0500 05.03.2002, Hemant Bhargava wrote:
> I
> think this is restricted to cases where I'm trying to print, say, 4
> pages to a sheet. (And I think this one happens in Acrobat, but works
> fine within Previewer.) Is this solvable?
This is definitely a OS problem, and not a TeX problem.
Which versions of MacOS and Acrobat Reader are you using?
Yours,
Matthias
--
Matthias Damm <m.damm at web.de>
PGP key available
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ein Pessimist, wer fürchtet, daß dies stimmt" - James Branch Cabell
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Fonts in OSX - TeX
From: "Hemant Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:51:51 -0500
Oh, well, you guys are great! I recall the pdfpages.sty email (and
didn't relate it earlier to my problem).
Thanks, Matthias for your messages too. I am running 10.1.3 and Acrobat
Reader 5.0.
- Hemant
On Tuesday, March 5, 2002, at 08:40 AM, Michael Murray wrote:
>
> Hi Hemant,
>
> As it happens Ross Moore solved this one for me a few days back.
> Unfortunately I just flushed all my emails so I can't show you
> his - you may still have it.
>
> Ross said to use pdfpages (its part of teTeX). If the file
> you want to print is called file.pdf then make a new tex file with
> the text
>
> ----------
> %%pdflatex
>
> \documentclass{article}
> \usepackage{pdfpages}
>
> \begin{document}
>
> \includepdf[pages=-, nup=4]{file.pdf}
>
> \end{document}
> ---------------
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Fonts in OSX - TeX
From: "Adrian Heathcote" <adrian.heathcote at philosophy.usyd.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 00:52:21 +1100
I
>> think this is restricted to cases where I'm trying to print, say, 4
>> pages to a sheet. (And I think this one happens in Acrobat, but works
>> fine within Previewer.) Is this solvable?
>
> This is definitely a OS problem, and not a TeX problem.
> Which versions of MacOS and Acrobat Reader are you using?
I had a problem a few days ago in which the source file compiled and
looked fine in Preview but refused to display in Acrobat (full or
Reader). Richard Koch actually solved the problem, which turned out to
be a missing counter in the source file. It's interesting that in some
circumstances Preview is actually more forgiving than Acrobat.
But is that a fault with Preview or Acrobat?
Adrian H.
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Subject: A fix for the slowdown (was Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs?)
From: "Mark Guzdial" <guzdial at cc.gatech.edu>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 09:20:39 -0500
I played with Enrico's loadup.el and got my mac-emacs working well
again. The problem seems to be the BibCite package. When I tested
the new mac-emacs Sunday, I didn't edit anything with a large
bibliography. When I did yesterday, I found the slowdown.
I played with commenting out various lines in the LaTeX hooks until I
found a minimal set that gave me fast response. Here's what I have:
(add-hook 'LaTeX-mode-hook
(function (lambda ()
(require 'font-latex)
(require 'reftex)
;mjg (require 'bib-cite)
;mjg (bib-cite-minor-mode 1)
(turn-on-reftex)
(setf reftex-plug-into-AUCTeX t)
;mjg (setq bib-cite-use-reftex-view-crossref t)
;(outline-minor-mode 1)
;(diminish 'outline-minor-mode)
(diminish 'reftex-mode)
;mjg (diminish 'bib-cite-minor-mode)
;(ispell-hl-minor-mode)
(paren-toggle-matching-quoted-paren 1)
(paren-toggle-matching-paired-delimiter 1)
)))
--
--------------------------
Mark Guzdial : Georgia Tech : College of Computing : Atlanta, GA 30332-0280
Associate Professor - Learning Sciences & Technologies.
Collaborative Software Lab - http://coweb.cc.gatech.edu/csl/
(404) 894-5618 : Fax (404) 894-0673 : guzdial at cc.gatech.edu
http://www.cc.gatech.edu/gvu/people/Faculty/Mark.Guzdial.html
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs and PATH variable
From: "Jan Erik Moström" <lists at mostrom.pp.se>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:36:13 +0100
At 2002-03-05 07:24, Enrico Franconi <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk> wrote:
>I'm perfectly aware of this solution, which I believe is the worst
>one. I do NOT want to replicate my long .cshrc file in a XML
>file. Moreover, I define many aliases, and have many conditional
>statements that would get lost in this way. I really want that my
>..cshrc complex script is eventually loaded, since this is what I
>expect from it, and this is what is written in the documentation of
>any tcsh of the world.
Complain to Apple, not to me.
jem
--
Jan Erik Moström jem at mostrom.pp.se www.mostrom.pp.se
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Subject: BibDesk
From: "Jerome Dubois" <jer_dubois at libertysurf.fr>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 18:35:53 +0100
Hi Michael,
I have a problem with your very beautiful and useful BibDesk ! When I
have save a file and when I want to open this file BibDesk quit with an
error system. What is the problem ?
Thank,
Jerome
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Subject: Re: BibDesk
From: "Michael McCracken" <michael_mccracken at mac.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:31:09 -0800
Since this was sent to the list, I'll reply to the list also.
I imagine this general advice might be valid for the other developers on
the list:
If you have a problem that is hard to guess the cause of (like this
one), it really helps if you can send the contents of the Console
(/Applications/Utilities/Console) from after the program crashed. It
usually dumps a lot of useful info on the console, and I know BibDesk
(and iTeXMac) both dump diagnostic info there as well. In BibDesk's
case, that's where to look first if your .bib file won't open - the
parsing errors get sent there, for now.
Thanks again to everyone who is helping make my program better - we've
got a great community here.
-Michael
On Tuesday, March 5, 2002, at 09:35 AM, Jerome Dubois wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> I have a problem with your very beautiful and useful BibDesk ! When I
> have save a file and when I want to open this file BibDesk quit with an
> error system. What is the problem ?
>
> Thank,
> Jerome
>
--
Michael O. McCracken
michael_mccracken at mac.com
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Fonts in OSX - TeX
From: "Ross Moore" <ross at ics.mq.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:14:07 +1100 (EST)
> Oh, well, you guys are great! I recall the pdfpages.sty email (and
> didn't relate it earlier to my problem).
>
> Thanks, Matthias for your messages too. I am running 10.1.3 and Acrobat
> Reader 5.0.
Upgrade to Acrobat Reader v5.05.
That will fix font problems upon printing pdfTeX documents,
created with verions 0.13 and 0.14 of pdfTeX.
This is the well-know `subroutine gaps' bug.
Hope this helps,
Ross Moore
>
> - Hemant
>
> On Tuesday, March 5, 2002, at 08:40 AM, Michael Murray wrote:
> >
> > Hi Hemant,
> >
> > As it happens Ross Moore solved this one for me a few days back.
> > Unfortunately I just flushed all my emails so I can't show you
> > his - you may still have it.
> >
> > Ross said to use pdfpages (its part of teTeX). If the file
> > you want to print is called file.pdf then make a new tex file with
> > the text
> >
> > ----------
> > %%pdflatex
> >
> > \documentclass{article}
> > \usepackage{pdfpages}
> >
> > \begin{document}
> >
> > \includepdf[pages=-, nup=4]{file.pdf}
> >
> > \end{document}
> > ---------------
>
>
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