MacOSX-TeX Digest #267 - 03/18/02
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MacOSX-TeX Digest #267 - Monday, March 18, 2002
Re: [OS X TeX] printing postscript
by <W.Northcott at unsw.edu.au>
Re: [OS X TeX] New TeX release (old style release)
by "Gérard Degrez" <degrez at vki.ac.be>
Problem on ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/
by "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Color and itexmac
by "jerome LAURENS" <jerome.laurens at u-bourgogne.fr>
Re: [OS X TeX] Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Color and itexmac
by "Oscar Chávez" <oc918 at mizzou.edu>
Re: [OS X TeX] Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Color and itexmac
by "Ullrich Steiner" <u.steiner at chem.rug.nl>
Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs and PATH variable
by "Alistair Windsor" <windsor at math.psu.edu>
Newbie install and font question
by "Philip Neukom" <pneukom at ProfitAnalytics.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
by "William Adams" <wadams at atlis.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
by "Oscar Chavez" <oc918 at mizzou.edu>
[OS X TeX] Updated MacDviX and MacGhostViewX
by "Tom Kiffe" <tom at kiffe.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] Updated MacDviX and MacGhostViewX
by "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs and PATH variable
by "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
by "Peter Erwin" <erwin at ll.iac.es>
Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
by "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] printing postscript
From: <W.Northcott at unsw.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:04:02 +1000
>Anybody knows how to print with USB (non-IP) postscript printers (for
>which there are drivers for the "PrintCenter") from shell? In order to
I just saw what appears to be the answer on another list.
Try the command
man Print
Note the capitalisation. Print appears to give a command line interface
to the MOSX print driver system.
Bill Northcott
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] New TeX release (old style release)
From: "Gérard Degrez" <degrez at vki.ac.be>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:03:29 +0100
>The TeX release @ ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/ (and
>not texgs, grrr) has been updated. Here are the file names for
>downloading:
>
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/TeX.dmg
Am I mistaken? I tried to download it this morning, I couln't find it.
It doesn't appear on the directory list I get from Fetch:
total 392
-rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 128 Dec 4 2001 BUGS
-rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 6367 Mar 14 18:23 ChangeLog.txt
drwxr-xr-x 5 508 508 4096 Mar 17 10:22 GWTeXServices
-rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 12108 Jan 28 21:36 INSTALL.TeX.macosx
-rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 15374 Dec 12 2001 INSTALL.TeX.macosx.old
-rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 2851 Jan 16 10:49 INSTALL.gs.macosx
-rw-r--r-- 1 508 450 227 May 31 2001 INSTALL.readme1st.macosx
drwxr-xr-x 2 508 508 4096 Mar 13 13:55 IPKGSDIR
-rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 1633 Nov 9 2001 MKBINDIST.TeX-gs.macosx
-rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 9814 Mar 17 22:32 Makefile
-rw-r--r-- 1 508 450 123 Jun 3 2001 README.underdevelopment
-rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 474 Feb 25 00:56 TODO
drwxr-xr-x 4 508 508 4096 Feb 21 20:40 TeX
-rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 411 Mar 17 22:13 TeX-thin.rtf
drwxr-xr-x 3 508 508 4096 Feb 22 09:54 altpdftex
drwxr-xr-x 2 508 508 4096 Nov 23 2001 ccs
-rw-r--r-- 1 508 450 39311 May 26 2001 config.guess
-rw-r--r-- 1 508 450 27630 May 26 2001 config.sub
drwxr-xr-x 4 508 508 4096 Nov 9 2001 ghostscript
drwxr-xr-x 6 508 508 4096 Mar 17 22:17 i-Installer
drwxr-xr-x 3 508 508 4096 Mar 17 17:06 installer
drwxr-xr-x 2 508 508 4096 Nov 9 2001 libs
drwxr-xr-x 4 508 508 4096 Nov 19 2001 nluug2001nj
drwxr-xr-x 2 508 508 4096 Feb 19 12:55 peder
drwxr-xr-x 2 508 508 4096 Mar 17 23:51 teTeX-texmf.ii
drwxr-xr-x 4 508 508 4096 Dec 4 2001 textrace
Gérard Degrez
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Subject: Problem on ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/
From: "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:15:07 +0100
On Monday, March 18, 2002, at 08:03 , Gérard Degrez wrote:
> Am I mistaken? I tried to download it this morning, I couln't find it.
> It doesn't appear on the directory list I get from Fetch:
No, you are not mistaken. I made a *very* stupid mistake in my Makefile
that destroyed *all* the dmg's in that directory, old releases, current
release, everything.
I am currently re-uploading the current release. All others are more or
less lost.
G
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Color and itexmac
From: "jerome LAURENS" <jerome.laurens at u-bourgogne.fr>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:56:42 +0100
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Le jeudi 1 janvier 1970, =E0 01:17 AM, Francis Dorra a =E9crit :
> Hi
> I am trying to use color with itexmac and the standart pdf output.
> My usual latex macros for color don't seem to work.
> Is there a doc on using color with pdflatex or is there some body who
> tried it?
>
> Thanks
>
>
je ne savais pas qu'itexmac existait le premier janvier 1970.
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Le jeudi 1 janvier 1970, =E0 01:17 AM, Francis Dorra a =E9crit :
<excerpt>Hi
<color><param>0000,0000,DEDD</param>I am trying to use color with
itexmac and the standart pdf output.
My usual latex macros for color don't seem to work.
Is there a doc on using color with pdflatex or is there some body who=20
tried it?
Thanks
</color></excerpt><color><param>0000,0000,DEDD</param>
je ne savais pas qu'itexmac existait le premier janvier 1970.
</color>=
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Color and itexmac
From: "Oscar Chávez" <oc918 at mizzou.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:00:06 -0600
> Hi
>
> I am trying to use color with itexmac and the standart pdf output.
>
> My usual latex macros for color don't seem to work.
>
I haven't used iTeXMac, but \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} should work.
Oscar Chávez
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Color and itexmac
From: "Ullrich Steiner" <u.steiner at chem.rug.nl>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:01:08 +0100
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Color works fine for me. Did you specify the "pdftex" option in the=20
color package?
\usepackage[pdftex]{color}
?
- ulli
On Monday, March 18, 2002, at 02:56 , jerome LAURENS wrote:
> Le jeudi 1 janvier 1970, =E0 01:17 AM, Francis Dorra a =E9crit :
>
>> Hi
>> I am trying to use color with itexmac and the standart pdf output.
>> My usual latex macros for color don't seem to work.
>> Is there a doc on using color with pdflatex or is there some body who
>> tried it?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
> je ne savais pas qu'itexmac existait le premier janvier 1970.
>
>
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Department of Polymer Chemistry
University of Groningen
Nijenborgh 4
NL-9747AG Groningen
The Netherlands
Tel: +31-50-363-7888
Fax: +31-50-363-4400
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Color works fine for me. Did you specify the "pdftex" option in the
color package?
\usepackage[pdftex]{color}
?
- ulli
On Monday, March 18, 2002, at 02:56 , jerome LAURENS wrote:
<excerpt>Le jeudi 1 janvier 1970, =E0 01:17 AM, Francis Dorra a =E9crit =
:
<excerpt>Hi
<color><param>0000,0000,DEDC</param>I am trying to use color with
itexmac and the standart pdf output.
My usual latex macros for color don't seem to work.
Is there a doc on using color with pdflatex or is there some body who=20
tried it?
Thanks
</color></excerpt><color><param>0000,0000,DEDC</param>
je ne savais pas qu'itexmac existait le premier janvier 1970.
</color></excerpt>
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Ullrich Steiner
Department of Polymer Chemistry
University of Groningen
Nijenborgh 4
NL-9747AG Groningen
The Netherlands
Tel: +31-50-363-7888
Fax: +31-50-363-4400
e-mail: mailto:u.steiner at chem.rug.nl
www: http://www.chem.rug.nl/steiner
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs and PATH variable
From: "Alistair Windsor" <windsor at math.psu.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:55:24 -0500
> On the other topic of the PATH not being correctly visible from within
> emacs, we are investigating the fact. I call emacs with a "do shell
> script 'tcsh -c'" so in principle all the tcsh environment should be
> visible. For some strange reason, in this case the shell does not
> source the init files as it should do. We are trying to understand
> why. By now, the patch is to set the paths directly in
> /usr/share/init/tcsh/rc. This is an horrible solution and we prefer
> that nobody actually does it! Stay tuned.
I had this problem with the shell in regular emacs. I worked very
hard to achieve a workaround. The problem turned out to be with the
prepackaged binaries. Compiling emacs from the patched source solved
the problem. Another possible work around is to define a
~/.emacs_tcsh file which emacs will source whenever it tries to call
tcsh. Similar problems occur using GNU emacs when you begin by double
clicking a file. Starting the application directly solves this
problem. The shell can be set directly in the .emacs.
--
****
Alistair Windsor
432 McAllister Building
Ph: 865-4291
Fax 865-3735
mailto:windsor at math.psu.edu
http://www.math.psu.edu/windsor
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Subject: Newbie install and font question
From: "Philip Neukom" <pneukom at ProfitAnalytics.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:34:18 -0500
I have lurked on the list for a few weeks. TeX is obviously as much an
awesome publishing tools as it is an obsession.
I am still somewhat in the dark as to what has to be installed for a proper
and workable version of TeX. But that is something I can work through with
your help ... I hope.
I apologize in advance if these questions are found in a Mac specific FAQ
somewhere. Please direct me to it if it is available as I haven't found it
yet. (Maybe this is something I can help with since I am going through it
for the first time right now.)
I am thinking of installing teTeX and TeXShop. Is this all I will need to
get a workable installation? If I understand correctly, teTeX is an OSX
implementation of TeX and TeXShop is a viewer/creator of documents?
I believe that teTeX is installed first including the GhostScript package.
GS will install fonts.
Being a long time Mac user and using OSX for over a year now, I have found
numerous problems relating to fonts and the multitude of locations that they
can be saved. (I am a bit of a fontaholic and so use and abuse fonts in my
documents!)
Where does GS/teTeX install those fonts? Do these installed fonts end up in
the font menus of other OSX software? i.e. MS Word
If I remember from an old GS install on OS9 the fonts had a similar look to
many popular postscript fonts but had different names. If this is the case,
then I don't think I will have a problem. If they do have similar names,
then I will need to do some cleaning after the install.
I am on digest mode, so if you send me a reply with clarification questions
please cc to my email account or be patient as I wait for the digest.
Thanks in advance to all.
Philip
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Profit Analytics Inc.
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pneukom at ProfitAnalytics.com http://www.ProfitAnalytics.com
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"Activity Based-Costing, Planning, Performance Measurement"
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
From: "William Adams" <wadams at atlis.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:41:08 -0500
pneukom asked:
>I am thinking of installing teTeX and TeXShop. Is this all I will need
to
>get a workable installation?
Yes.
>If I understand correctly, teTeX is an OSX
>implementation of TeX and TeXShop is a viewer/creator of documents?
Close, teTeX is a Unix port of TeX based on Web2C maintained by Thomas
Esser. OS X can use it 'cause it is at heart, BSD Unix 4.4 with a Mach
micro-kernel, and an admixture of Free and NetBSD.
TeXShop is a front-end which allows one to (easily) type / modify
(La)TeX source, and to have (pdf)TeX process it so that it may be
previewed on-screen.
>Where does GS/teTeX install those fonts?
In the texmf directory tree.
>Do these installed fonts end up in
>the font menus of other OSX software? i.e. MS Word
No, more's the pity.
William
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ATLIS Graphics & Design / 717-731-6707 voice / 717-731-6708 fax
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
From: "Oscar Chavez" <oc918 at mizzou.edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:06:29 -0600
At 10:34 AM -0600 3/18/02, Philip Neukom wrote:
>I am thinking of installing teTeX and TeXShop. Is this all I will need
>to get a workable installation?
Yes, just do that. The installer works very well. I just installed it
this morning (I've been using MacOS X since Friday, so I qualify as a
complete newbie). In less that half an hour I was creating my first
documents (from source files written before, when I was a MacOS 9
user), and so far everything works fine. You don't even need to know
where is everything (but if you must know, the documentation is very
clear). I just followed the directions in the TeXShop web page, and
that was it.
Oscar Chávez
University of Missouri
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Subject: [OS X TeX] Updated MacDviX and MacGhostViewX
From: "Tom Kiffe" <tom at kiffe.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 13:11:12 -0600
MacDviX is a dvi previewer for teTeX which has much of the functionality of
xdvi but does not need X11. It uses the teTeX texmf tree for tfm, pk and vf
fonts and uses teTeX binaries to generate pk fonts.
MacGhostViewX is a Postscript previewer for teTeX and ghostscript which does not need X11. It is based on ghostscript 7.04 and requires a ghostscript 6.01
or later installation since it uses ghostscript binaries and fonts. This
package only contains the library files needed to run ghostscript 7.04 and does
not duplicate the standard ghostscript fonts or binaries.
Both programs are now bundled applications with no resource forks and should
work even with a UFS file system. If a file is open in either program and that
file is changed by another program, e.g., running any form of tex on the
source file, the previewer will automatically load the changed dvi or
Postscript file.
Like recent versions of xdvi, MacDviX supports the srcltx package. If you
include this package in your tex source file, tex will add \specials to the
dvi file. When you option-click in a displayed dvi file MacDviX uses these
\specials to report the line number and the source file corresponding to the
mouse click. If you are using BBEdit, BBEdit Lite, or Alpha MacDviX will have
your editor open the source file and highlight the particular line. This
functionality is very useful during the preliminaries stages of typesetting
when you are debugging your tex source files since you can efficiently jump
back to the source file when you see a problem in your dvi file. When you
have finished the basic debugging of your tex sources you should remove the
srcltx package before generating Postscript or PDF output.
As mentioned above, MacDviX can have your editor open the source file and highlight the appropriate line only if you are using BBEdit or Alpha. This
can be extended to other editors which have some mechanism whereby another
program can tell them to open a particular file and highlight a given line.
Send me email if you want to implement this feature with a different editor.
Unlike Mac GS Viewer, MacGhostViewX is a Postscript viewer for OS X which
actually works. Besides displaying Postscript and PDF files it can add a
PICT resource to an eps file, convert an eps file to PDF, and extract specific
pages from a Postscript file.
Both programs are free and can be freely redistributed. They can be downloaded
from http://www.kiffe.com/textools.html.
Tom Kiffe
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Updated MacDviX and MacGhostViewX
From: "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:22:49 +0000
On March 18, Tom Kiffe writes:
> As mentioned above, MacDviX can have your editor open the source
> file and highlight the appropriate line only if you are using BBEdit
> or Alpha. This can be extended to other editors which have some
> mechanism whereby another program can tell them to open a particular
> file and highlight a given line. Send me email if you want to
> implement this feature with a different editor.
With X11 emacs, just unix call
emacs +n filename
where n is the line number
With Carbon mac-emacs, just unix call
tcsh -c '/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs +n filename &'
Please note that the tcsh, the quotes, and the & are all essential
Hope this helps
cheers
-- e.
Enrico Franconi - franconi at cs.man.ac.uk
University of Manchester - http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~franconi/
Department of Computer Science - Phone: +44 (161) 275 6170
Manchester M13 9PL, UK - Fax: +44 (161) 275 6204
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs and PATH variable
From: "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:47:56 +0000
On March 18, Alistair Windsor writes:
> I had this problem with the shell in regular emacs. I worked very
> hard to achieve a workaround. The problem turned out to be with the
> prepackaged binaries. Compiling emacs from the patched source solved
> the problem.
This is what I've done as well.
> Another possible work around is to define a ~/.emacs_tcsh file which
> emacs will source whenever it tries to call tcsh. Similar problems
> occur using GNU emacs when you begin by double clicking a
> file. Starting the application directly solves this problem. The
> shell can be set directly in the .emacs.
The point is that such workaround (which make a lot of sense) does not
work for a very small fraction of the macosx around. Having an
installation base of 400+ mac-emacs in few weeks, in only 3 cases it
was necessary to act in the rude way. In these cases any
non-interactive call to tcsh will just load the system rc files, and
never the user ones.
cheers
-- e.
Enrico Franconi - franconi at cs.man.ac.uk
University of Manchester - http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~franconi/
Department of Computer Science - Phone: +44 (161) 275 6170
Manchester M13 9PL, UK - Fax: +44 (161) 275 6204
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
From: "Peter Erwin" <erwin at ll.iac.es>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:04:35 +0000
Hi Philip,
It looks like William and Oscar have already given you most of what you
need to know... I thought I'd throw in a few more details of what fonts
go where that I've been able to figure out in the last few weeks
(since you are a "fontaholic" -- like me, I guess!).
When teTeX is installed, part of the installation is a set of PostScript fonts
in what I'll call "unix" format: the .pfb files (along with
font-metric files, virtual-
font files, and other strange things which TeX and its variants use).
Since they
aren't standard Macintosh font files, and they don't live in any of
the standard
OS X font folders (e.g., /System/Library/Fonts, /Library/Fonts,
~/Library/Fonts, etc.), MacOS X doesn't really know about them. Hence,
"normal" programs like Word et al. won't know about them, either.
But the various TeX-related programs *do*, so they can create PostScript or
PDF files with the fonts. TeXShop displays PDF files (and does other things,
of course!). Since the PostScript/PDF files created by the TeX-type programs
either have the fonts automatically included or are using "standard" fonts
(such as Times), there is no problem displaying or printing them. (You can
view the PDF files with just about anything that displays PDF, such as Preview
or Acrobat Reader, in addition to TeXShop itself.)
So what do you get in the way of "unix"-style fonts? You can find out by
poking around in some of the TeX hierarchy,'s directories, in particular:
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/fonts/type1/
The standard TeX font (what all your documents will use unless you specify
otherwise!) is Donald Knuth's Computer Modern (the PostScript versions
are in ...type1/bluesky/cm). Also available are Times, Palatino, Courier,
Helvetica, New Century Schoolbook, Avant Garde, Bookman, Zapf Chancery,
Symbol, Zapf Dingbats, Bitstream Charter, and Utopis. *And* various other
fonts created more-or-less specifically for use with TeX, such as Euler, Omega,
and Math Pazo.
(GS installs some of its *own* unix-style fonts, in
/usr/local/share/ghostscript/fonts
but I don't know if they are of much direct use in TeX documents.)
Probably more than you wanted to know...
cheers,
Peter
>Being a long time Mac user and using OSX for over a year now, I have found
>numerous problems relating to fonts and the multitude of locations that they
>can be saved. (I am a bit of a fontaholic and so use and abuse fonts in my
>documents!)
>
>Where does GS/teTeX install those fonts? Do these installed fonts end up in
>the font menus of other OSX software? i.e. MS Word
>
>If I remember from an old GS install on OS9 the fonts had a similar look to
>many popular postscript fonts but had different names. If this is the case,
>then I don't think I will have a problem. If they do have similar names,
>then I will need to do some cleaning after the install.
>
>I am on digest mode, so if you send me a reply with clarification questions
>please cc to my email account or be patient as I wait for the digest.
--
=============================================================
Peter Erwin Instituto de Astrofisica de Canarias
erwin at ll.iac.es C/ Via Lactea s/n
tel. +34 922 605 244 38200 La Laguna, Tenerife, Spain
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
From: "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:54:41 +0100
> I am thinking of installing teTeX and TeXShop. Is this all I will need
> to
> get a workable installation? If I understand correctly, teTeX is an OSX
> implementation of TeX and TeXShop is a viewer/creator of documents?
teTeX is a unix implementation of web2c by Thomas Esser, not just Mac OS
X. In case you use my installer, you get (up to date) TeX Live for the
programs and teTeX for the foundation (macros, fonts, etc) plus some
additions of my own.
>
> I believe that teTeX is installed first including the GhostScript
> package.
> GS will install fonts.
Actually, you do not need GS to use TeX. You only need GS if you have
older documents that require PostScript tricks or .eps image inclusion.
Here Mac OS X differes from most other Unixes as well as older Mac OS 9
implementation, because most of those need/use some sort of PostScript
(GS) system. The default on Mac OS X is pdfTeX, which produces PDF
directly and not via DVI+PS. PDF is as you probably know the display
format of Mac OS X. If you are new to TeX, keep to pdfTeX.
Secondly, both TeX and GS come with their own type 1 fonts. The way TeX
handles it, all fonts are included before GS is used (if it is used).
TeX has far more fonts than what it has available in type1 format. These
are included as bitmaps at the resolution of your choice. The GS fonts
are not available to TeX. There is a way to get them available the other
way around (and I'll add that later on) but GS in itself is not
extremely useful on Mac OS X.
> Where does GS/teTeX install those fonts?
TeX: /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/fonts/...
GS: /usr/local/share/ghostscript/fonts/...
> Do these installed fonts end up in
> the font menus of other OSX software? i.e. MS Word
No.
G
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