MacOSX-TeX Digest #269 - 03/20/02
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MacOSX-TeX Digest #269 - Wednesday, March 20, 2002
three questions and two suggestions for macdvix
by "Paulo Abreu" <paulotex at yahoo.com>
Thank you re Newbie install and font question
by "Philip Neukom" <pneukom at ProfitAnalytics.com>
Search for pdf editor
by "Philip Neukom" <pneukom at ProfitAnalytics.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] Search for pdf editor
by "William Adams" <wadams at atlis.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] Search for pdf editor
by "Lucien Lemmens" <lcnlmmns at ruca.ua.ac.be>
[OS X TeX] TeXShop 1.18
by "Richard Koch" <koch at math.uoregon.edu>
financial symbols
by "Joanne Snow" <jsnow at saintmarys.edu>
Re: MacOSX-TeX Digest #267 - 03/18/02
by "Melissa A. Krueger" <krueger at u.washington.edu>
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Subject: three questions and two suggestions for macdvix
From: "Paulo Abreu" <paulotex at yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:43:26 +0000
Hi:
I have two suggestions for the documentation of macdvix
(Installation.rtf):
Warn the user that if the resolution of the Metafont mode (Options ->
Metafont Mode ...) doesn't match the resolution set in Options ->
Display Page Geometry, then macdvix won't use most of the fonts that
might already exist on the system with that Metafont mode, because the
resolution won't
match. Instead, it will try to create its own set of fonts, with the
mismatched resolution/mf mode, and will succeed and used them, which
might or might not be what the user wants. If the "Make Pk fonts" is not
set, it will be as though the fonts don't exist on the system.
I don't consider this an error. The user might actually want to use the
mismatched resolution/mf mode font to save disk space, save memory and
increase display speed. But a warning might be a good idea. It took me
quite sometime to understand why madvix wasn't using the fonts I had
just created with "allcm" and "allec".
Perhaps letting the user set the resolution inside the metafont mode
window instead of the display page geometry is a good idea...
Another suggestion:
Although Tom Kiffe says in the documentation:
"The binaries (or symbolic links to them) for teTeX and ghostscript
should be located in /usr/local/bin. If not, you will have to edit the
setenv command in MacDviX.app/Contents/MacOS/macdvix.script to reflect
the actual location of the binaries."
perhaps a specific suggestion about
adding
/usr/local/teTeX/bin/powerpc-apple-darwin-current/
to the script might be a good idea. In my case, without this, mktexpk
wasn't found and the fonts weren't being created.
And now the three questions:
1) Why can't I set the units in Options->Display Page Geometry ? Is this
normal? I know I can click on the lower left corner of a page to change
them, but then the next time macdvix is launched, it reverts back to
inches...
2) Display speed: I have a 500mhz g3, my fonts are 600dpi with 1bit
color depth, and I get the feeling the display is slow. Couldn't it be
improved? Is it a limitation of Quartz? The reason I am asking this is
that I have xdvi running on 166mhz pentium, and it displays faster,
using the same font resolution.
3) Live scrolling: I wish it could be implemented.
Please, don't get me wrong. I find madvix a great program (and it is
free!). I am using it often. These are just some minor issues I wish
improved... ;-)
Paulo
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Subject: Thank you re Newbie install and font question
From: "Philip Neukom" <pneukom at ProfitAnalytics.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:00:35 -0500
Thank you everyone for your help.
Especially to William, Peter, Oscar & Gerben!
I have now made the installation of teTeX, GS, TeXShop and MacGhostscriptX.
Very cool!
Thanks again
Philip
--
Philip Neukom, CMC
Profit Analytics Inc.
Tel: 905 - 337 - 7111 Fax: 905 - 337 - 7850
pneukom at ProfitAnalytics.com http://www.ProfitAnalytics.com
"Advising organizations to improve profitability through operations."
"Activity Based-Costing, Planning, Performance Measurement"
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Subject: Search for pdf editor
From: "Philip Neukom" <pneukom at ProfitAnalytics.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:15:24 -0500
Hello again!
I have another question which is more of a search for a recommendation.
This may be the wrong place to ask, but you were so helpful with my recent
request, I thought I would make the request anyway.
I receive numerous documents in pdf that I am asked to comment on. I don't
usually receive the original text since pdf is such a versatile and
cross-platform format.
I have modified and added comments to pdfs using Acrobat 4 (Classic), and
delete or rearrange content using Canvas 8 (Carbon). Unfortunately,
Canvas' pdf filter is broken and doesn't have the ability to re-flow text,
and add highlights. I don't feel like upgrading to Acrobat 5 until it is
completely Carbonized.
I would like to use an OSX application to do this manipulation. Especially
valuable would be the ability to re-flow text in the pdf after deleting or
rearranging some text.
Is there a way to manipulate pdfs using TexShop, teTex etc. on OSX? Or is
there another solution that you would recommend.
Thanks again to all for your help
Philip
PS I am on digest mode, so I apologize in advance if I don't reply quickly.
Thanks
--
Philip Neukom, CMC
Profit Analytics Inc.
Tel: 905 - 337 - 7111 Fax: 905 - 337 - 7850
pneukom at ProfitAnalytics.com http://www.ProfitAnalytics.com
"Advising organizations to improve profitability through operations."
"Activity Based-Costing, Planning, Performance Measurement"
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Search for pdf editor
From: "William Adams" <wadams at atlis.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:20:54 -0500
pneukom asked:
>I have modified and added comments to pdfs using Acrobat 4 (Classic),
AFAIK, Adobe Acrobat, the full version, the product formerly known as
Exchange is the only thing which will do this.
>and
>delete or rearrange content using Canvas 8 (Carbon). Unfortunately,
>Canvas' pdf filter is broken and doesn't have the ability to re-flow
text,
That's a limitation of .pdf---it precisely places text, and loses the
concept of paragraph. Although Tailor.app in NeXTstep was able to do
this with .ps files, that capability has been lost, unless it's
preserved in OneVision's program(s), www.onevision.com
>and add highlights.
That's annotation
>I don't feel like upgrading to Acrobat 5 until it is
>completely Carbonized.
We're all waiting on that, but I'm not holding my breath.
William
--
William Adams, publishing specialist
ATLIS Graphics & Design / 717-731-6707 voice / 717-731-6708 fax
Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
http://www.atlis.com
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Search for pdf editor
From: "Lucien Lemmens" <lcnlmmns at ruca.ua.ac.be>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:55:43 +0100
> pneukom asked:
>> I have modified and added comments to pdfs using Acrobat 4 (Classic),
>
> AFAIK, Adobe Acrobat, the full version, the product formerly known as
> Exchange is the only thing which will do this.
>
>> and
>> delete or rearrange content using Canvas 8 (Carbon). Unfortunately,
>> Canvas' pdf filter is broken and doesn't have the ability to re-flow
> text,
>
> That's a limitation of .pdf---it precisely places text, and loses the
> concept of paragraph. Although Tailor.app in NeXTstep was able to do
> this with .ps files, that capability has been lost, unless it's
> preserved in OneVision's program(s), www.onevision.com
>
>> and add highlights.
>
> That's annotation
>
>> I don't feel like upgrading to Acrobat 5 until it is
>> completely Carbonized.
>
> We're all waiting on that, but I'm not holding my breath.
>
> William
>
I am using at present Acrobat 5 under OSX and except for a few things
( indexing and html-exporting with a plug in) everything works,
especially annotations. The indexing is no problem for files on the hard
disk because the indexing capabilities of Sherlock are organized in a
different way such that single folders can be indexed. (The shortcoming
is that I do not know how the index can be transferred to CD-rom)
L Lemmens
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Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 1.18
From: "Richard Koch" <koch at math.uoregon.edu>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:08:04 -0800
Folks,
TeXShop 1.18 is available at
http://www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop/
This version fixes a bug; in certain circumstances, the tag
code in versions 1.16 and 1.17 would output an unending
string of error messages to the system log.
Dick Koch
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Subject: financial symbols
From: "Joanne Snow" <jsnow at saintmarys.edu>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:14:48 -0500 (EST)
Does anyone know how to type the half-box that that is used in actuarial
or financial math as part of the subscript for the present value of an
annuity? I want to be able to type ``a subscript n with a half-box (top
and right side)" around the n. I have 2 awkward methods--neither of
which satisfies me.
Thanks. Joanne Snow
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Subject: Re: MacOSX-TeX Digest #267 - 03/18/02
From: "Melissa A. Krueger" <krueger at u.washington.edu>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 11:25:42 -0800
Hi Lisa,
Please don't schedule me for anything on the days of: 4/16 or 4/23.
Thanks,
Melissa
> From: "TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List" <MacOSX-TeX at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 20:00:01 -0500
> To: "TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List" <MacOSX-TeX at email.esm.psu.edu>
> Subject: MacOSX-TeX Digest #267 - 03/18/02
>
> MacOSX-TeX Digest #267 - Monday, March 18, 2002
>
> Re: [OS X TeX] printing postscript
> by <W.Northcott at unsw.edu.au>
> Re: [OS X TeX] New TeX release (old style release)
> by "Gérard Degrez" <degrez at vki.ac.be>
> Problem on ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/
> by "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
> Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Color and itexmac
> by "jerome LAURENS" <jerome.laurens at u-bourgogne.fr>
> Re: [OS X TeX] Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Color and itexmac
> by "Oscar Chávez" <oc918 at mizzou.edu>
> Re: [OS X TeX] Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Color and itexmac
> by "Ullrich Steiner" <u.steiner at chem.rug.nl>
> Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs and PATH variable
> by "Alistair Windsor" <windsor at math.psu.edu>
> Newbie install and font question
> by "Philip Neukom" <pneukom at ProfitAnalytics.com>
> Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
> by "William Adams" <wadams at atlis.com>
> Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
> by "Oscar Chavez" <oc918 at mizzou.edu>
> [OS X TeX] Updated MacDviX and MacGhostViewX
> by "Tom Kiffe" <tom at kiffe.com>
> Re: [OS X TeX] Updated MacDviX and MacGhostViewX
> by "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
> Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs and PATH variable
> by "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
> Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
> by "Peter Erwin" <erwin at ll.iac.es>
> Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
> by "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] printing postscript
> From: <W.Northcott at unsw.edu.au>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:04:02 +1000
>
>> Anybody knows how to print with USB (non-IP) postscript printers (for
>> which there are drivers for the "PrintCenter") from shell? In order to
>
> I just saw what appears to be the answer on another list.
>
> Try the command
> man Print
>
> Note the capitalisation. Print appears to give a command line interface
> to the MOSX print driver system.
>
> Bill Northcott
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] New TeX release (old style release)
> From: "Gérard Degrez" <degrez at vki.ac.be>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:03:29 +0100
>
>> The TeX release @ ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/ (and
>> not texgs, grrr) has been updated. Here are the file names for
>> downloading:
>>
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/TeX.dmg
>
> Am I mistaken? I tried to download it this morning, I couln't find it.
> It doesn't appear on the directory list I get from Fetch:
> total 392
> -rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 128 Dec 4 2001 BUGS
> -rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 6367 Mar 14 18:23 ChangeLog.txt
> drwxr-xr-x 5 508 508 4096 Mar 17 10:22 GWTeXServices
> -rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 12108 Jan 28 21:36 INSTALL.TeX.macosx
> -rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 15374 Dec 12 2001 INSTALL.TeX.macosx.old
> -rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 2851 Jan 16 10:49 INSTALL.gs.macosx
> -rw-r--r-- 1 508 450 227 May 31 2001
> INSTALL.readme1st.macosx
> drwxr-xr-x 2 508 508 4096 Mar 13 13:55 IPKGSDIR
> -rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 1633 Nov 9 2001 MKBINDIST.TeX-gs.macosx
> -rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 9814 Mar 17 22:32 Makefile
> -rw-r--r-- 1 508 450 123 Jun 3 2001 README.underdevelopment
> -rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 474 Feb 25 00:56 TODO
> drwxr-xr-x 4 508 508 4096 Feb 21 20:40 TeX
> -rw-r--r-- 1 508 508 411 Mar 17 22:13 TeX-thin.rtf
> drwxr-xr-x 3 508 508 4096 Feb 22 09:54 altpdftex
> drwxr-xr-x 2 508 508 4096 Nov 23 2001 ccs
> -rw-r--r-- 1 508 450 39311 May 26 2001 config.guess
> -rw-r--r-- 1 508 450 27630 May 26 2001 config.sub
> drwxr-xr-x 4 508 508 4096 Nov 9 2001 ghostscript
> drwxr-xr-x 6 508 508 4096 Mar 17 22:17 i-Installer
> drwxr-xr-x 3 508 508 4096 Mar 17 17:06 installer
> drwxr-xr-x 2 508 508 4096 Nov 9 2001 libs
> drwxr-xr-x 4 508 508 4096 Nov 19 2001 nluug2001nj
> drwxr-xr-x 2 508 508 4096 Feb 19 12:55 peder
> drwxr-xr-x 2 508 508 4096 Mar 17 23:51 teTeX-texmf.ii
> drwxr-xr-x 4 508 508 4096 Dec 4 2001 textrace
>
> Gérard Degrez
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Problem on ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/
> From: "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:15:07 +0100
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2002, at 08:03 , Gérard Degrez wrote:
>
>> Am I mistaken? I tried to download it this morning, I couln't find it.
>> It doesn't appear on the directory list I get from Fetch:
>
> No, you are not mistaken. I made a *very* stupid mistake in my Makefile
> that destroyed *all* the dmg's in that directory, old releases, current
> release, everything.
>
> I am currently re-uploading the current release. All others are more or
> less lost.
>
> G
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Color and itexmac
> From: "jerome LAURENS" <jerome.laurens at u-bourgogne.fr>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 14:56:42 +0100
>
>
> --Apple-Mail-1--502103042
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>
>
> Le jeudi 1 janvier 1970, =E0 01:17 AM, Francis Dorra a =E9crit :
>
>> Hi
>> I am trying to use color with itexmac and the standart pdf output.
>> My usual latex macros for color don't seem to work.
>> Is there a doc on using color with pdflatex or is there some body who
>> tried it?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
> je ne savais pas qu'itexmac existait le premier janvier 1970.
>
>
> --Apple-Mail-1--502103042
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>
> Le jeudi 1 janvier 1970, =E0 01:17 AM, Francis Dorra a =E9crit :
>
>
> <excerpt>Hi
>
> <color><param>0000,0000,DEDD</param>I am trying to use color with
> itexmac and the standart pdf output.
>
> My usual latex macros for color don't seem to work.
>
> Is there a doc on using color with pdflatex or is there some body who=20
>
> tried it?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> </color></excerpt><color><param>0000,0000,DEDD</param>
>
> je ne savais pas qu'itexmac existait le premier janvier 1970.
>
>
> </color>=
>
> --Apple-Mail-1--502103042--
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Color and itexmac
> From: "Oscar Chávez" <oc918 at mizzou.edu>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 08:00:06 -0600
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I am trying to use color with itexmac and the standart pdf output.
>>
>> My usual latex macros for color don't seem to work.
>>
>
> I haven't used iTeXMac, but \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx} should work.
>
> Oscar Chávez
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Color and itexmac
> From: "Ullrich Steiner" <u.steiner at chem.rug.nl>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 15:01:08 +0100
>
>
> --Apple-Mail-1--501837543
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset=ISO-8859-1;
> format=flowed
>
> Color works fine for me. Did you specify the "pdftex" option in the=20
> color package?
>
> \usepackage[pdftex]{color}
>
> ?
>
> - ulli
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2002, at 02:56 , jerome LAURENS wrote:
>
>> Le jeudi 1 janvier 1970, =E0 01:17 AM, Francis Dorra a =E9crit :
>>
>>> Hi
>>> I am trying to use color with itexmac and the standart pdf output.
>>> My usual latex macros for color don't seem to work.
>>> Is there a doc on using color with pdflatex or is there some body who
>>> tried it?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>
>> je ne savais pas qu'itexmac existait le premier janvier 1970.
>>
>>
>
> --------------------------------------
> Ullrich Steiner
> Department of Polymer Chemistry
> University of Groningen
> Nijenborgh 4
> NL-9747AG Groningen
> The Netherlands
>
> Tel: +31-50-363-7888
> Fax: +31-50-363-4400
> e-mail: mailto:u.steiner at chem.rug.nl
> www: http://www.chem.rug.nl/steiner
> --------------------------------------
>
> --Apple-Mail-1--501837543
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> Content-Type: text/enriched;
> charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Color works fine for me. Did you specify the "pdftex" option in the
> color package?
>
>
> \usepackage[pdftex]{color}
>
>
> ?
>
>
> - ulli
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2002, at 02:56 , jerome LAURENS wrote:
>
>
> <excerpt>Le jeudi 1 janvier 1970, =E0 01:17 AM, Francis Dorra a =E9crit =
> :
>
>
> <excerpt>Hi
>
> <color><param>0000,0000,DEDC</param>I am trying to use color with
> itexmac and the standart pdf output.
>
> My usual latex macros for color don't seem to work.
>
> Is there a doc on using color with pdflatex or is there some body who=20
>
> tried it?
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> </color></excerpt><color><param>0000,0000,DEDC</param>
>
> je ne savais pas qu'itexmac existait le premier janvier 1970.
>
>
>
> </color></excerpt>
>
> --------------------------------------
>
> Ullrich Steiner
>
> Department of Polymer Chemistry
>
> University of Groningen
>
> Nijenborgh 4
>
> NL-9747AG Groningen
>
> The Netherlands
>
>
> Tel: +31-50-363-7888
>
> Fax: +31-50-363-4400
>
> e-mail: mailto:u.steiner at chem.rug.nl
>
> www: http://www.chem.rug.nl/steiner
>
> --------------------------------------=
>
> --Apple-Mail-1--501837543--
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs and PATH variable
> From: "Alistair Windsor" <windsor at math.psu.edu>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 09:55:24 -0500
>
>
>> On the other topic of the PATH not being correctly visible from within
>> emacs, we are investigating the fact. I call emacs with a "do shell
>> script 'tcsh -c'" so in principle all the tcsh environment should be
>> visible. For some strange reason, in this case the shell does not
>> source the init files as it should do. We are trying to understand
>> why. By now, the patch is to set the paths directly in
>> /usr/share/init/tcsh/rc. This is an horrible solution and we prefer
>> that nobody actually does it! Stay tuned.
>
> I had this problem with the shell in regular emacs. I worked very
> hard to achieve a workaround. The problem turned out to be with the
> prepackaged binaries. Compiling emacs from the patched source solved
> the problem. Another possible work around is to define a
> ~/.emacs_tcsh file which emacs will source whenever it tries to call
> tcsh. Similar problems occur using GNU emacs when you begin by double
> clicking a file. Starting the application directly solves this
> problem. The shell can be set directly in the .emacs.
>
> --
> ****
> Alistair Windsor
> 432 McAllister Building
> Ph: 865-4291
> Fax 865-3735
> mailto:windsor at math.psu.edu
> http://www.math.psu.edu/windsor
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Newbie install and font question
> From: "Philip Neukom" <pneukom at ProfitAnalytics.com>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:34:18 -0500
>
> I have lurked on the list for a few weeks. TeX is obviously as much an
> awesome publishing tools as it is an obsession.
>
> I am still somewhat in the dark as to what has to be installed for a proper
> and workable version of TeX. But that is something I can work through with
> your help ... I hope.
>
> I apologize in advance if these questions are found in a Mac specific FAQ
> somewhere. Please direct me to it if it is available as I haven't found it
> yet. (Maybe this is something I can help with since I am going through it
> for the first time right now.)
>
> I am thinking of installing teTeX and TeXShop. Is this all I will need to
> get a workable installation? If I understand correctly, teTeX is an OSX
> implementation of TeX and TeXShop is a viewer/creator of documents?
>
> I believe that teTeX is installed first including the GhostScript package.
> GS will install fonts.
>
> Being a long time Mac user and using OSX for over a year now, I have found
> numerous problems relating to fonts and the multitude of locations that they
> can be saved. (I am a bit of a fontaholic and so use and abuse fonts in my
> documents!)
>
> Where does GS/teTeX install those fonts? Do these installed fonts end up in
> the font menus of other OSX software? i.e. MS Word
>
> If I remember from an old GS install on OS9 the fonts had a similar look to
> many popular postscript fonts but had different names. If this is the case,
> then I don't think I will have a problem. If they do have similar names,
> then I will need to do some cleaning after the install.
>
> I am on digest mode, so if you send me a reply with clarification questions
> please cc to my email account or be patient as I wait for the digest.
>
> Thanks in advance to all.
> Philip
> --
> Philip Neukom, CMC
> Profit Analytics Inc.
> Tel: 905 - 337 - 7111 Fax: 905 - 337 - 7850
> pneukom at ProfitAnalytics.com http://www.ProfitAnalytics.com
> "Advising organizations to improve profitability through operations."
> "Activity Based-Costing, Planning, Performance Measurement"
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
> From: "William Adams" <wadams at atlis.com>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:41:08 -0500
>
> pneukom asked:
>> I am thinking of installing teTeX and TeXShop. Is this all I will need
> to
>> get a workable installation?
>
> Yes.
>
>> If I understand correctly, teTeX is an OSX
>> implementation of TeX and TeXShop is a viewer/creator of documents?
>
> Close, teTeX is a Unix port of TeX based on Web2C maintained by Thomas
> Esser. OS X can use it 'cause it is at heart, BSD Unix 4.4 with a Mach
> micro-kernel, and an admixture of Free and NetBSD.
>
> TeXShop is a front-end which allows one to (easily) type / modify
> (La)TeX source, and to have (pdf)TeX process it so that it may be
> previewed on-screen.
>
>> Where does GS/teTeX install those fonts?
>
> In the texmf directory tree.
>
>> Do these installed fonts end up in
>> the font menus of other OSX software? i.e. MS Word
>
> No, more's the pity.
>
> William
>
> --
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> ATLIS Graphics & Design / 717-731-6707 voice / 717-731-6708 fax
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>
>
>
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>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
> From: "Oscar Chavez" <oc918 at mizzou.edu>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 11:06:29 -0600
>
> At 10:34 AM -0600 3/18/02, Philip Neukom wrote:
>> I am thinking of installing teTeX and TeXShop. Is this all I will need
>> to get a workable installation?
>
> Yes, just do that. The installer works very well. I just installed it
> this morning (I've been using MacOS X since Friday, so I qualify as a
> complete newbie). In less that half an hour I was creating my first
> documents (from source files written before, when I was a MacOS 9
> user), and so far everything works fine. You don't even need to know
> where is everything (but if you must know, the documentation is very
> clear). I just followed the directions in the TeXShop web page, and
> that was it.
>
>
> Oscar Chávez
> University of Missouri
>
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>
> Subject: [OS X TeX] Updated MacDviX and MacGhostViewX
> From: "Tom Kiffe" <tom at kiffe.com>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 13:11:12 -0600
>
> MacDviX is a dvi previewer for teTeX which has much of the functionality of
> xdvi but does not need X11. It uses the teTeX texmf tree for tfm, pk and vf
> fonts and uses teTeX binaries to generate pk fonts.
>
> MacGhostViewX is a Postscript previewer for teTeX and ghostscript which does
> not need X11. It is based on ghostscript 7.04 and requires a ghostscript 6.01
> or later installation since it uses ghostscript binaries and fonts. This
> package only contains the library files needed to run ghostscript 7.04 and
> does
> not duplicate the standard ghostscript fonts or binaries.
>
> Both programs are now bundled applications with no resource forks and should
> work even with a UFS file system. If a file is open in either program and that
> file is changed by another program, e.g., running any form of tex on the
> source file, the previewer will automatically load the changed dvi or
> Postscript file.
>
> Like recent versions of xdvi, MacDviX supports the srcltx package. If you
> include this package in your tex source file, tex will add \specials to the
> dvi file. When you option-click in a displayed dvi file MacDviX uses these
> \specials to report the line number and the source file corresponding to the
> mouse click. If you are using BBEdit, BBEdit Lite, or Alpha MacDviX will have
> your editor open the source file and highlight the particular line. This
> functionality is very useful during the preliminaries stages of typesetting
> when you are debugging your tex source files since you can efficiently jump
> back to the source file when you see a problem in your dvi file. When you
> have finished the basic debugging of your tex sources you should remove the
> srcltx package before generating Postscript or PDF output.
>
> As mentioned above, MacDviX can have your editor open the source file and
> highlight the appropriate line only if you are using BBEdit or Alpha. This
> can be extended to other editors which have some mechanism whereby another
> program can tell them to open a particular file and highlight a given line.
> Send me email if you want to implement this feature with a different editor.
>
> Unlike Mac GS Viewer, MacGhostViewX is a Postscript viewer for OS X which
> actually works. Besides displaying Postscript and PDF files it can add a
> PICT resource to an eps file, convert an eps file to PDF, and extract specific
> pages from a Postscript file.
>
> Both programs are free and can be freely redistributed. They can be downloaded
> from http://www.kiffe.com/textools.html.
>
> Tom Kiffe
>
>
>
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>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Updated MacDviX and MacGhostViewX
> From: "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:22:49 +0000
>
> On March 18, Tom Kiffe writes:
>> As mentioned above, MacDviX can have your editor open the source
>> file and highlight the appropriate line only if you are using BBEdit
>> or Alpha. This can be extended to other editors which have some
>> mechanism whereby another program can tell them to open a particular
>> file and highlight a given line. Send me email if you want to
>> implement this feature with a different editor.
>
> With X11 emacs, just unix call
> emacs +n filename
> where n is the line number
>
> With Carbon mac-emacs, just unix call
> tcsh -c '/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs +n filename &'
> Please note that the tcsh, the quotes, and the & are all essential
>
> Hope this helps
> cheers
> -- e.
>
> Enrico Franconi - franconi at cs.man.ac.uk
> University of Manchester - http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~franconi/
> Department of Computer Science - Phone: +44 (161) 275 6170
> Manchester M13 9PL, UK - Fax: +44 (161) 275 6204
>
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>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs and PATH variable
> From: "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 19:47:56 +0000
>
> On March 18, Alistair Windsor writes:
>> I had this problem with the shell in regular emacs. I worked very
>> hard to achieve a workaround. The problem turned out to be with the
>> prepackaged binaries. Compiling emacs from the patched source solved
>> the problem.
>
> This is what I've done as well.
>
>> Another possible work around is to define a ~/.emacs_tcsh file which
>> emacs will source whenever it tries to call tcsh. Similar problems
>> occur using GNU emacs when you begin by double clicking a
>> file. Starting the application directly solves this problem. The
>> shell can be set directly in the .emacs.
>
> The point is that such workaround (which make a lot of sense) does not
> work for a very small fraction of the macosx around. Having an
> installation base of 400+ mac-emacs in few weeks, in only 3 cases it
> was necessary to act in the rude way. In these cases any
> non-interactive call to tcsh will just load the system rc files, and
> never the user ones.
>
> cheers
> -- e.
>
> Enrico Franconi - franconi at cs.man.ac.uk
> University of Manchester - http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~franconi/
> Department of Computer Science - Phone: +44 (161) 275 6170
> Manchester M13 9PL, UK - Fax: +44 (161) 275 6204
>
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>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
> From: "Peter Erwin" <erwin at ll.iac.es>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:04:35 +0000
>
> Hi Philip,
>
> It looks like William and Oscar have already given you most of what you
> need to know... I thought I'd throw in a few more details of what fonts
> go where that I've been able to figure out in the last few weeks
> (since you are a "fontaholic" -- like me, I guess!).
>
> When teTeX is installed, part of the installation is a set of PostScript fonts
> in what I'll call "unix" format: the .pfb files (along with
> font-metric files, virtual-
> font files, and other strange things which TeX and its variants use).
> Since they
> aren't standard Macintosh font files, and they don't live in any of
> the standard
> OS X font folders (e.g., /System/Library/Fonts, /Library/Fonts,
> ~/Library/Fonts, etc.), MacOS X doesn't really know about them. Hence,
> "normal" programs like Word et al. won't know about them, either.
>
> But the various TeX-related programs *do*, so they can create PostScript or
> PDF files with the fonts. TeXShop displays PDF files (and does other things,
> of course!). Since the PostScript/PDF files created by the TeX-type programs
> either have the fonts automatically included or are using "standard" fonts
> (such as Times), there is no problem displaying or printing them. (You can
> view the PDF files with just about anything that displays PDF, such as Preview
> or Acrobat Reader, in addition to TeXShop itself.)
>
> So what do you get in the way of "unix"-style fonts? You can find out by
> poking around in some of the TeX hierarchy,'s directories, in particular:
> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/fonts/type1/
> The standard TeX font (what all your documents will use unless you specify
> otherwise!) is Donald Knuth's Computer Modern (the PostScript versions
> are in ...type1/bluesky/cm). Also available are Times, Palatino, Courier,
> Helvetica, New Century Schoolbook, Avant Garde, Bookman, Zapf Chancery,
> Symbol, Zapf Dingbats, Bitstream Charter, and Utopis. *And* various other
> fonts created more-or-less specifically for use with TeX, such as Euler,
> Omega,
> and Math Pazo.
>
> (GS installs some of its *own* unix-style fonts, in
> /usr/local/share/ghostscript/fonts
> but I don't know if they are of much direct use in TeX documents.)
>
> Probably more than you wanted to know...
>
> cheers,
>
> Peter
>
>
>> Being a long time Mac user and using OSX for over a year now, I have found
>> numerous problems relating to fonts and the multitude of locations that they
>> can be saved. (I am a bit of a fontaholic and so use and abuse fonts in my
>> documents!)
>>
>> Where does GS/teTeX install those fonts? Do these installed fonts end up in
>> the font menus of other OSX software? i.e. MS Word
>>
>> If I remember from an old GS install on OS9 the fonts had a similar look to
>> many popular postscript fonts but had different names. If this is the case,
>> then I don't think I will have a problem. If they do have similar names,
>> then I will need to do some cleaning after the install.
>>
>> I am on digest mode, so if you send me a reply with clarification questions
>> please cc to my email account or be patient as I wait for the digest.
>
> --
> =============================================================
> Peter Erwin Instituto de Astrofisica de Canarias
> erwin at ll.iac.es C/ Via Lactea s/n
> tel. +34 922 605 244 38200 La Laguna, Tenerife, Spain
>
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>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Newbie install and font question
> From: "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:54:41 +0100
>
>> I am thinking of installing teTeX and TeXShop. Is this all I will need
>> to
>> get a workable installation? If I understand correctly, teTeX is an OSX
>> implementation of TeX and TeXShop is a viewer/creator of documents?
>
> teTeX is a unix implementation of web2c by Thomas Esser, not just Mac OS
> X. In case you use my installer, you get (up to date) TeX Live for the
> programs and teTeX for the foundation (macros, fonts, etc) plus some
> additions of my own.
>
>>
>> I believe that teTeX is installed first including the GhostScript
>> package.
>> GS will install fonts.
>
> Actually, you do not need GS to use TeX. You only need GS if you have
> older documents that require PostScript tricks or .eps image inclusion.
> Here Mac OS X differes from most other Unixes as well as older Mac OS 9
> implementation, because most of those need/use some sort of PostScript
> (GS) system. The default on Mac OS X is pdfTeX, which produces PDF
> directly and not via DVI+PS. PDF is as you probably know the display
> format of Mac OS X. If you are new to TeX, keep to pdfTeX.
>
> Secondly, both TeX and GS come with their own type 1 fonts. The way TeX
> handles it, all fonts are included before GS is used (if it is used).
> TeX has far more fonts than what it has available in type1 format. These
> are included as bitmaps at the resolution of your choice. The GS fonts
> are not available to TeX. There is a way to get them available the other
> way around (and I'll add that later on) but GS in itself is not
> extremely useful on Mac OS X.
>
>> Where does GS/teTeX install those fonts?
>
> TeX: /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf/fonts/...
> GS: /usr/local/share/ghostscript/fonts/...
>
>> Do these installed fonts end up in
>> the font menus of other OSX software? i.e. MS Word
>
> No.
>
> G
>
>
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