[OS X TeX] square cells and more
arnokruse at macnews.de
Thu Dec 23 14:03:18 EST 2004
Am 23.12.2004 um 18:57 schrieb Will Robertson:
> On 24 Dec 2004, at 3:10 AM, Arno Kruse wrote:
>> Es irrt der Mensch so lang er strebt. (Goethe, Faust 1)
> Hmmm. My babelfish translation says "It errs humans so long it
> strives", which I assume makes more sense in German :)
"Every human being is wrong as long as it seeks", an allusion to Faust
who is doomed to failure like all who seek the truth.
> My reading of Hermann Hesse has made me want to read Goethe, but so
> far I haven't had the chance. I hope the translation into english does
> him justice.
Maybe; you can interpret literature in different ways. My proposal is
not a word-by-word one, but should hit the meaning.
>> Please allow me some remarks anyhow:
>> 1. Square cells are in my opinion (maybe I am completely wrong) a
>> sort of elementar modules. I wonder why it is complicated that way to
>> produce them.
> I think this is just a matter of philosophy. Generally, it is simply
> sufficient to specify the text you'd like in a table and let LaTeX lay
> out everything as it sees fit. I don't consider my solution optimal
> since the text doesn't look (to me) perfectly vertically centred for
> all font sizes (I admit I only looked for Computer Modern, assuming my
> solution would work approximately for every font).
With fourier it works excellently.
> I think that looking at a large sample of typeset tabular material
> that a small minority actually requires square cells; the difficulty
> in LaTeX is that the vertical space has been specified in the tabular
> environment and is transparent to the user.
I do not understand; or do you mean "intransparent"?
>> 2. Other users may have different solutions to produce square cells;
>> I am interested to learn how they have solved the difficulties, you
>> may write me off list, if you like.
> I would also be interested, but I am not optimistic about receiving
> replies; the Mac OS X TeX list is fairly small in the scheme of things
> although there are many smart and clever people here.
O yes, and the concentration of knowledge is impressing.
>> 3. Problems of this manner are not specific Mac-problems, and so I
>> first tried to find a solution in comp.text.tex. Do you think anyhow
>> that it is useful and adequate to discuss them in this list?
> I think it is better to ask first on comp.text.tex, and then later in
> more specific lists such as this one if no satisfactory answer is
> given. Having said that, I didn't think too much about Arno's problem
> until he emailed me privately :)
>> 4. If the answer is yes: There are certainly more "little problems"
>> like mine and a lot of interesting and helpful solutions - why not
>> announce your questions and answers here?
> Certainly, a simple LaTeX document like the one I posted does no one
> any harm and helps people searching for solutions to similar problems
> in the the future if their problem is sufficiently similar.
I am anxious to hear whether other readers do think so too.
>> 5. Will, you have written
>> I have no idea why you have chosen just this brace.
> Not sure, either :)
> I just wanted a height that would always be about that which would be
> appropriate to centre the text around -- any uppercase letter would
> probably also work. You could try adjusting this character (maybe to
> an uppercase character instead) to see if it makes any difference --
> but I don't think it would *too* much, although a brace extends lower
> than the baseline as opposed to most uppercase letters.
> Glad to be of service; happy holidays, if you have them now!
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