Fwd: [OS X TeX] Utopia fonts

Bruno Voisin bvoisin at mac.com
Thu Mar 25 03:45:26 EST 2004


I get the impression from your latest message that it was intended for 
the list as a whole, not for me personally, that you were fooled by the 
Reply-To stuff as I usually am. Thus I'm taking the liberty of 
forwarding your message to the list, and the preceding one as well.

I had a look at the page for Adobe Font Tools, you need to register and 
sign a license agreement to get them, which I won't do right now.

There is also, of course, the option of purchasing the fonts from 
Adobe, which might provide fonts of better quality, and in a wider 
range of shapes.


> De: Will Robertson
> Date: 25 mars 2004 01:53:49 GMT+01:00
> À: Bruno Voisin
> Objet: Rép : [OS X TeX] Utopia fonts
> On 25 Mar 2004, at 7:39, Bruno Voisin wrote:
>> Le 24 mars 04, à 21:39, Gerben Wierda a écrit :
>> Actually what I did was wrong, I selected OpenType format and edited 
>> manually the font extension from .otf.dfont to .dfont in the file 
>> name field. So I guess that, though called Utopia.dfont, this is 
>> actually a TrueType font file.
> Yeah, Apple has invented these new formats for storing their fonts, so 
> as well as being able to handle OpenType and TrueType fonts with .otf 
> and .ttf extensions, it ALSO accepts .otf.dfont and .dfont, which are 
> OpenType and TrueType respectively.
> I believe they created the distinction for two reasons: (a) make it 
> harder for people to copy their fonts (b) add proprietary extensions 
> (based on their old QuickDraw GX stuff).
> Will

> De: Will Robertson
> Date: 25 mars 2004 08:50:05 GMT+01:00
> À: Bruno Voisin
> Objet: Rép : [OS X TeX] Utopia fonts
> Hi Bruno
> This troubles me. You shouldn't really want to output to TrueType, 
> because your originals are Postscript. Only lossy conversion between 
> the formats is possible (although the differences can be negligible) 
> so this is not ideal.
> My Mac's in for repairs so I can't try anything out, however. I also 
> don't really have access to a printer, now that I think of it! When I 
> get time I am going to experiment with Adobe's in-house font tools. 
> This is what they say about it:
> "The goal of the Adobe Font Development Kit for OpenType package is to 
> share the tools used by Adobe font developers for wrapping up 
> PostScript® fonts as OpenType/CFF font files, and adding OpenType 
> layout features. These tools are used for in-house development of new 
> Adobe OpenType fonts. Use them at your own risk, and with no guarantee 
> of support! We know that they work for the fonts Adobe makes, but have 
> tested only part of what it is possible to express with OpenType."
> The tools can be downloaded (for Mac OS 9, Mac OS X and Windows) at 
> <http://partners.adobe.com/asn/tech/type/otfdk/index.jsp>. I would 
> take a punt that Adobe'd produce more reliable fonts than pfaedit 
> (which, by the way, is now called FontForge).
> If anyone checks them out, post your results on the list. Otherwise, 
> I'll get around to it in a month or so...
> Will
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