[OS X TeX] I'm done with TeXShop as my main editor

André Bellaïche abellaic at math.jussieu.fr
Thu Dec 7 17:34:01 EST 2006

Le 7 déc. 06 à 21:12, Paul Smyth a écrit :

> I'm finding it a bit annoying the negativity being displayed on  
> this list towards certain pieces of software. First we have  
> Gerhardt castigating i-Installer et. al. Now we have this thread. I  
> use TeXShop and find it eminently suitable for my purposes. Ok,   
> you prefer VI or Vim or whatever. Why tell us about if if not to  
> imply that that there is something difficient about TeXShop. I'm  
> sure the rest of us don't care what software you use. The tone of  
> your subject line alone is quite dismissive of TeXShop. The problem  
> is that with this kind of negativity towards something like TeXShop  
> the guys that write and maintain it will justly feel they are  
> wasting their time and quite possibly give up. We've already had  
> this situation happen once recently on this list. I for one do not  
> want to see that happen.
> Paul Smyth
> On 7 Dec 2006, at 08:11, Matthieu Masquelet wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I can't believe I didn't find this before... Just found out about the
>> 'atchange' perl script which does everything I want when I'm just
>> writing my research log or draft of papers. I can go back to vi where
>> I'm definitely much faster than on TeXShop and then everytime I save
>> my .tex, the 'atchange' script launches the same TeXShop scripts
>> before opening my doc in Preview... Sure when reviewing documents
>> (especially with multiple input .tex files like my thesis), TeXShop
>> better synchronization will be useful but as a main editor, I'm sort
>> of glad to be back on vi. Just wanted to share my happiness :) Is
>> anybody else using this? I can't recall any recent mention of it on
>> this list...
>> Regards,
>> -- 
>> Matthieu Masquelet
>> Georgia Institute of Technology
>> Computational Combustion Laboratory

I agree with Paul Smyth, and I would like to ask a question.

All these people who are so fond of vi, do they mean that a mouse is  
useless, or some kind of nuisance?

At the time when I had to learn vi, it was such a mess to make a  
correction or an insertion! Do they use a new version, mouse- 
friendly, of vi, or the old one ? For me, having to learn vi at the  
beginning of the 90's was as unpleasant as being forced to enter  
bits, eight at a time, into the central memory, by using a panel of  
eight switches --- I've seen that, on a Honeywell computer.

In fact, I had to learn Unix. But when I came to the chapter on vi in  
my Unix textbook, and I read from there that "vi" was a "powerful and  
convenient text editor" (translated from the French), I came readily  
to the conclusion that all these Unix people were damned liers.

I have learned some Unix tricks, since that time, but they didn't  
help me.

André Bellaïche

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