[OS X TeX] biblatex authors delimiter

Mon Feb 12 04:12:40 EST 2007

On 12.02.2007, at 09:54, Simon Spiegel wrote:

>
> On 12.02.2007, at 09:38, Alex Hamann wrote:
>
>> I tried to look into the issue a little more and I actually do not  
>> think it is a citestyle problem. The behaviour seems to be defined  
>> in biblatex.def, not in any of the bbx or cbx files:
>>
>> % Delimiters used in citations, bibliography, list of shorthands
>>
>> \newcommand*{\multinamedelim}{\addcomma\space}
>> \newcommand*{\finalnamedelim}{%
>>   \ifnum\value{liststop}>2 \finalandcomma\fi
>>   \addspace\bibstring{and}\space}
>> \newcommand*{\revsdnamedelim}{\addcomma}
>> \newcommand*{\andothersdelim}{\addspace}
>
> Sorry, didn't have time to look into this. Maybe later today.  
> Anyway, if it's in biblatex.def, you can easily redefine it.

Ok, had another short loot at this, and now, I know at least, why I  
didn't encounter this myself: I have set up the name formatting  
completely by my own. I do agree, that the way it is set up in  
biblatex.def is not correct for German, so this is a bug. You can  
either overrule this with your own style or contact Philipp.

simon
> simon
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Alex
>>
>> Am 10.02.2007 um 23:44 schrieb Simon Spiegel:
>>
>>> From a very short glance this seems to be a problem in the  
>>> specific citestyle and not of biblatex per se. I'll have  a  
>>> closer look tomorrow.
>>>
>>> simon
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10.02.2007, at 21:00, Alex Hamann wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I just started to migrate to bibLaTeX from Jurabib. All very  
>>>> promising but I ran into a problem concerning multiple authors:
>>>> A book entry with 3 authors is correctly displayed in the output  
>>>> as:
>>>> "author 1, author 2, and author 3" (english)
>>>> "author 1, author 2 and author 3" (babel with german)
>>>>
>>>> however, with 2 authors only I get:
>>>> "author 1, and author 2" (both languages)
>>>> whereas it should be : "author 1 and author 2"
>>>> (clearly "and" will be translated in German. I am just pointing  
>>>> at the the use of ",")
>>>>
>>>> Minimal example
>>>> (do not get irritated by "bibstyle=myownstyle". I was busy  
>>>> creating my own style when I ran into the problem. However, as  
>>>> you can see below, I tested with the styles provided by the  
>>>> biblatex package)
>>>>
>>>> TeX-file:
>>>>
>>>> %begin minimal example tex-file
>>>> \documentclass[12pt]{article}
>>>> \usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
>>>> \usepackage[german]{babel}
>>>> \usepackage[bibstyle=myownstyle, citestyle=authortitle] 
>>>> {biblatex} %has also been tested with bibstyle=standard,  
>>>> bibstyle=authortitle with the same result
>>>> \bibliography{Preussentest.bib}
>>>> \begin{document}
>>>> blablabla\cite{Asch:1996vn}
>>>> adsfsjdfljadsf\\
>>>> asdfasdfasfd\\
>>>> sdfjasdfjasljfj\cite{Asch:1996rn}
>>>> \printbibliography
>>>> \end{document}
>>>> %end minimal example tex-file
>>>>
>>>> Bib-file:
>>>>
>>>> %begin minimal example bib-file
>>>> %% This BibTeX bibliography file was created using BibDesk.
>>>> %% http://bibdesk.sourceforge.net/
>>>> %% Created for Alex at 2007-02-10 19:27:41 +0100
>>>> %% Saved with string encoding Western (Windows Latin 1)
>>>>
>>>> @book{Asch:1996rn,
>>>> 	Address = {Köln},
>>>> 	Author = {Asch, Ronald G. and Duchhardt, Heinz},
>>>> 	Booktitle = {Der Absolutismus - ein Mythos? Strukturwandel  
>>>> monarchischer Herrschaft in West- und Mitteleuropa (ca. 1550 -  
>>>> 1700)},
>>>> 	Shorttitle = {Absolutismus},
>>>> 	Title = {Der Absolutismus - ein Mythos? Strukturwandel  
>>>> monarchischer Herrschaft in West- und Mitteleuropa (ca. 1550 -  
>>>> 1700)},
>>>> 	Year = {1996},
>>>>
>>>> @book{Asch:1996vn,
>>>> 	Address = {Köln},
>>>> 	Author = {Asch, Ronald G. and Duchhardt, Heinz and Neugebauer,  
>>>> Wolfgang},
>>>> 	Booktitle = {Der Absolutismus - ein Mythos? Strukturwandel  
>>>> monarchischer Herrschaft in West- und Mitteleuropa (ca. 1550 -  
>>>> 1700)},
>>>> 	Shorttitle = {Absolutismus},
>>>> 	Title = {Der Absolutismus - ein Mythos? Strukturwandel  
>>>> monarchischer Herrschaft in West- und Mitteleuropa (ca. 1550 -  
>>>> 1700)},
>>>> %end minimal example bib-file
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> did anybody else run into this and got it solved (Simon?)
>>>>
>>>> Alex
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