[OS X TeX] TeXShop Feature Request

[Alain Schremmer]

On Mar 7, 2009, at 6:25 PM, Adam R. Maxwell wrote:
>
> On Mar 7, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote:
>
>>> :)  Trying to satisfy everyone will ruin the user experience.
>>
>> I guess that's that then.
>>
>> Not really disappointed regards (Got those two old big screens.)
>
> Dick may well decide to add such a feature, and I'm in no way  
> speaking for him.  My comments were only intended as a reminder  
> that "just a preference" entails more than it seems at first glance!


On Mar 7, 2009, at 6:29 PM, <cfrees at imapmail.org>  
<cfrees at imapmail.org> wrote:

> Re.: tabs vs. windows
>
> I'm using TeXShop on a 12" screen. I've never used it regularly on
> anything bigger than a 15".
>
> At first, I was inclined to agree with those who said they'd never use
> tabs (or never use tabs for source & preview) and I certainly know
> there are times when I want these separate - even though they *always*
> overlap on my screen.
>
> However, I'm not so sure now. I find it hard to think through whether
> I'd prefer tabs or not. I've got so used to tabs in other contexts
> (Firefox and screen, mostly) and I can imagine finding them useful. I
> often have windows that "disappear" from TeXShop. They are still there
> but invisible. They have focus but are nowhere to be seen. The more
> windows I have, the more likely this is. Moreover, I often have a  
> *lot*
> of windows open and just keeping track of them can be difficult. With
> tabs I always know where things are. I'm only ever *one* click or  
> *one*
> shortcut away. With windows, it can take me a lot more than one click
> or one shortcut to find what I want.
>
> So I'm in favour of choice although it would be nowhere near as  
> high on
> my priority list as some other features, such as better syntax
> colouring, for example.

All right, back on the drawing board: how would you see the wish  
being phrased—yes, after all, it would be only a wish. As for the  
priority, given that is already often rather hard to see what kind of  
consensus there is for a wish, I don't want to come even near trying  
to assess priorities. But of course, you are totally welcome to it  
and I expect to be vastly entertained by the ensuing chaos ;-))))

On Mar 7, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Alain Schremmer wrote:

> 	A choice in Preferences between the current Source, Preview,  
> Console windows and a single tabbed window with tabs for Root  
> source, Included source(s), Preview, Console, Log, etc

against which phrasing

On Mar 7, 2009, at 3:00 PM, Peter Dyballa wrote:

> What I meant is at least two tabbed windows. Plus an optional third  
> one with the console log.
>
> One set of tabs in one window can have all input related things  
> like (La)TeX, BibLaTeX, and whatever sources, the other set of tabs  
> in another window can have all output related stuff. There could be  
> a choice between console log and real LOG file. And it's not  
> necessarily a preferences thing, I think. Every TeXShop window  
> should become enabled to open new tabs into which source, log, or  
> PDF files can be loaded (or mapped).
>
> Another option could be to have in the output related window open  
> more than one page of the PDF output. Optional: in each tab the  
> option to freeze the output displayed fron an ancient run. To be  
> able to compare (Rome before and after burning).
>
> And another option would be to click on warning or error messages  
> in a log tab and a tab in a new or in the input related window  
> opens showing the corresponding line in a STY or CLS file which is  
> reporting the cause of the message. Of course the input sources get  
> adjusted too to show the code triggering the message.
>
> A new name for the new tool could be: TeXShop Centre®™. TeXShop Mall?
>
> (I hope it wasn't too much sun out today!)


which I thought ought to be clarified—as in "claret"

Patient regards to all
--schremmer