[OS X TeX] Creating a trtans

Wed Sep 23 01:13:12 EDT 2009

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>    1. Re: Bibliography Key (Alan Litchfield)
>    2. Re: Bibliography Key (Herbert Schulz)
>    3. Re: Latexmk terminates every other time (Michael Kubovy)
>    4. Re: Latexmk terminates every other time (Herbert Schulz)
>    5. Re: Bibliography Key (Adam R. Maxwell)
>    6. Long document typesetting problems (Pete Chvany)
>    7. Re: Long document typesetting problems (Herbert Schulz)
>    8. Re: Long document typesetting problems (Themis Matsoukas)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:02:11 +1200 (NZST)
> From: "Alan Litchfield" <alan at alphabyte.co.nz>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Bibliography Key
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> Herb,
>
> It has taken a while to get in front of my LaTeX Companion and it does not
> appear to say in there that the cite key can have no spaces although all the
> examples have none. Having tried it on a sample file PDFLaTeX failed to read
> an entry in which I added spaces into the key and succeeded in reading it
> when
> I removed the spaces. So the non-use of white space appears to be implied.
>
> However, when I entered the key and put a white space before the key in the
> tex file it was ignored. If I put a space before the key in the bib file,
> that
> too was ignored.
>
> Cheers
> Alan
>
> Herbert Schulz wrote:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> Can a bibliography key (the information that goes in the \cite
>> command) have white space? The only comment I've been able to find is
>> that it can contain letters, symbols and numbers but not a comma
>> (which makes sense since it is the field delimiter); no comment about
>> white space and that could be interpreted as a symbol.
>>
>> I know that the space key is ignored when entering a key in Bibdesk.
>>
>> Good Luck,
>>
>> Herb Schulz
>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:17:22 -0500
> From: Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Bibliography Key
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> On Sep 21, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote:
>
>> Herb,
>>
>> It has taken a while to get in front of my LaTeX Companion and it
>> does not
>> appear to say in there that the cite key can have no spaces although
>> all the
>> examples have none. Having tried it on a sample file PDFLaTeX failed
>> to read
>> an entry in which I added spaces into the key and succeeded in
>> reading it when
>> I removed the spaces. So the non-use of white space appears to be
>> implied.
>>
>> However, when I entered the key and put a white space before the key
>> in the
>> tex file it was ignored. If I put a space before the key in the bib
>> file, that
>> too was ignored.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Alan
>
> Howdy,
>
> I agree, it isn't clear from the documentation. I've looked in the
> BibTeX documentation, The LaTeX Companion (2nd Edition), Guide to
> LaTeX (4th Edition), LaTeX - A Document Preparation System and More
> Math Into LaTeX (4ht Edition) and all were unclear about the spaces.
> Of course the proof is in the pudding and if bibtex chokes the answer
> is clear.
>
> I'd guess leading spaces might be ignored so I'd leave them out!
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:11:09 -0400
> From: Michael Kubovy <kubovy at virginia.edu>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Latexmk terminates every other time
> To: John Collins <collins at phys.psu.edu>
> Cc: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
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> Dear John,
>
> Thanks for the tip. Opening *.blg revealed many blemishes that the
> console didn't, and after I fixed them, all's well with the world.
>
> MK
>
> On Sep 21, 2009, at 9:42 AM, John Collins wrote:
>
>> I agree with Herb that latexmk gives this report because bibtex
>> reported an error.  One needs to look at the output to see what
>> error bibtex reported.  (Alternatively, the information is in
>> bibtex's log file, i.e., 20090921mk.blg.)  This should give an
>> indication about the cause of the problem.
>>
>> Typically, when I get such a message, the problem is a non-obvious
>> syntax error in the bib file.
>>
>> John Collins
>>
>>
>> Herbert Schulz wrote:
>>> On Sep 20, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Michael Kubovy wrote:
>>>> Whenever I change a citation in an article, I get:
>>>>
>>>> Transcript written on 20090921mk.log.
>>>> Latexmk: Found input bbl file '20090921mk.bbl'
>>>> Latexmk: Log file says output to '20090921mk.pdf'
>>>> Latexmk: Found bibliography file(s) [/Users/mk/Documents/Papers/
>>>> mk.bib]
>>>> Collected error summary (may duplicate other messages):
>>>> bibtex 20090921mk: Run of rule 'bibtex 20090921mk' gave a non-zero
>>>> error code
>>>> Latexmk: Use the -f option to force complete processing.
>>>> Latexmk: All targets (20090921mk.pdf) are up-to-date
>>>>
>>>> The next run is fine:
>>>>
>>>> Transcript written on 20090921mk.log.
>>>> Latexmk: Found input bbl file '20090921mk.bbl'
>>>> Latexmk: Log file says output to '20090921mk.pdf'
>>>> Latexmk: Found bibliography file(s) [/Users/mk/Documents/Papers/
>>>> mk.bib]
>>>> Latexmk: All targets (20090921mk.pdf) are up-to-date
>>>>
>>>> I'm running
>>>> Latexmk: This is Latexmk, John Collins, 10 September 2009,
>>>> version: 4.10d.
>>>>
>>>> on Mac Snow Leopard using texlive 2008.
>>>>
>>>> Suggestions?
>>> Howdy,
>>> Could you supply a minimal file set that shows this behavior? This
>>> looks like bibtex is having a problem and throwing an error.
>>> Good Luck,
>>> Herb Schulz
>>> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:15:39 -0500
> From: Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Latexmk terminates every other time
> To: Michael Kubovy <kubovy at virginia.edu>
> Cc: John Collins <collins at phys.psu.edu>,	TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List
> 	<macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
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> On Sep 21, 2009, at 8:11 PM, Michael Kubovy wrote:
>
>> Dear John,
>>
>> Thanks for the tip. Opening *.blg revealed many blemishes that the
>> console didn't, and after I fixed them, all's well with the world.
>>
>> MK
>>
>
> Howdy,
>
> That's good to hear.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:42:40 -0700
> From: "Adam R. Maxwell" <amaxwell at mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Bibliography Key
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
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>
> On Sep 21, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Herbert Schulz wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sep 21, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote:
>>
>>> Herb,
>>>
>>> It has taken a while to get in front of my LaTeX Companion and it
>>> does not
>>> appear to say in there that the cite key can have no spaces
>>> although all the
>>> examples have none. Having tried it on a sample file PDFLaTeX
>>> failed to read
>>> an entry in which I added spaces into the key and succeeded in
>>> reading it when
>>> I removed the spaces. So the non-use of white space appears to be
>>> implied.
>>>
>>> However, when I entered the key and put a white space before the
>>> key in the
>>> tex file it was ignored. If I put a space before the key in the bib
>>> file, that
>>> too was ignored.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Alan
>>
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I agree, it isn't clear from the documentation. I've looked in the
>> BibTeX documentation, The LaTeX Companion (2nd Edition), Guide to
>> LaTeX (4th Edition), LaTeX - A Document Preparation System and More
>> Math Into LaTeX (4ht Edition) and all were unclear about the spaces.
>> Of course the proof is in the pudding and if bibtex chokes the
>> answer is clear.
>>
>> I'd guess leading spaces might be ignored so I'd leave them out!
>
> Here's an old post of mine on bibdesk-users that mentions TLC 2nd ed.
> I don't have the book here in my hotel, so have to resort to quoting
> myself :).
>
> http://www.mail-archive.com/bibdesk-users@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00271.html
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:00:34 -0400
> From: Pete Chvany <pchvany at math.harvard.edu>
> Subject: [OS X TeX] Long document typesetting problems
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> A user in a department I support has reported a couple of problems
> when typesetting long documents. He's using TeXShop 2.26 via the
> MacTeX-2008 distribution dated 20 March 2009, on Macs running either
> OS 10.5.7 or 10.5.8.
>
> The symptoms he reports are as follows:
>
> 1. When typesetting a long document after fixing brace mismatches
> (i.e. problems with misplaced { or } delimiters), he has to delete
> his .aux files wholesale and start fresh. He reports that he did not
> have this problem in the past.
>
> 2. When he makes small changes and typesets a document again, the
> document view seems to recall his place in the document incorrectly,
> though it gets close enough to suggest that it's trying. If he was on
> page X before re-typesetting, the viewer will return him to page X +/-
> 2 or +/- 3, but never X. This is also apparently recent behavior.
>
> I hope these are appropriate questions for the forum; my role is
> desktop software and hardware support and my knowledge of TeX goes
> just deep enough to be shallow, but I'm hoping someone can suggest
> workarounds, or note that this kind of behavior is to be expected, or
> that there is a bug fix in work, or something of the sort. Thanks in
> advance.
>
> *********************************************************
> Pete Chvany
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:27:54 -0500
> From: Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Long document typesetting problems
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
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> On Sep 22, 2009, at 8:00 AM, Pete Chvany wrote:
>
>> A user in a department I support has reported a couple of problems
>> when typesetting long documents. He's using TeXShop 2.26 via the
>> MacTeX-2008 distribution dated 20 March 2009, on Macs running either
>> OS 10.5.7 or 10.5.8.
>>
>> The symptoms he reports are as follows:
>>
>> 1. When typesetting a long document after fixing brace mismatches
>> (i.e. problems with misplaced { or } delimiters), he has to delete
>> his .aux files wholesale and start fresh. He reports that he did not
>> have this problem in the past.
>>
>
> Howdy,
>
> This is not unusual behavior since some critical information in the
> aux file may have been messed up by the previous error run. This is
> especially true of cross-reference information.
>
>> 2. When he makes small changes and typesets a document again, the
>> document view seems to recall his place in the document incorrectly,
>> though it gets close enough to suggest that it's trying. If he was
>> on page X before re-typesetting, the viewer will return him to page
>> X +/- 2 or +/- 3, but never X. This is also apparently recent
>> behavior.
>>
>
> It will depend upon what the change did to pagination. Sometimes small
> changes ina document can change pagination quite a bit. Also, what are
> his TeXShop->Preferences->Preview settings? There may ahe been other
> reports of this behavior; I'm aging and my memory is sometimes a bit
> foggy :-).
>
>> I hope these are appropriate questions for the forum; my role is
>> desktop software and hardware support and my knowledge of TeX goes
>> just deep enough to be shallow, but I'm hoping someone can suggest
>> workarounds, or note that this kind of behavior is to be expected,
>> or that there is a bug fix in work, or something of the sort. Thanks
>> in advance.
>>
>> *********************************************************
>> Pete Chvany
>
> This is a perfectly reasonable place to ask!
>
> By the way the first questions is related to the way TeX operates
> while the second is most likely TeXShop related.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)
>
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:52:09 -0400
> From: Themis Matsoukas <tmatsoukas at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Long document typesetting problems
> To: TeX on Mac OS X Mailing List <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu>
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> On Sep 22, 2009, at 9:00 AM, Pete Chvany wrote:
>
>> A user in a department I support has reported a couple of problems
>> when typesetting long documents. He's using TeXShop 2.26 via the
>> MacTeX-2008 distribution dated 20 March 2009, on Macs running either
>> OS 10.5.7 or 10.5.8.
>>
>> 2. When he makes small changes and typesets a document again, the
>> document view seems to recall his place in the document incorrectly,
>> though it gets close enough to suggest that it's trying. If he was
>> on page X before re-typesetting, the viewer will return him to page
>> X +/- 2 or +/- 3, but never X. This is also apparently recent
>> behavior.
>
> When you delete the aux files, pagination after the first typesetting
> may change due to missing cross-references (small changes in one page
> can move large floats around and cause big changes overall). This can
> cause the pdf to display a different page of the document. Typesetting
> a second time will restore the output and will normally bring up the
> "correct" page. You can always sync to bring up the page you want. (I
> use synctex with texshop 2.26).
>
> Themis
>
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