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[Richard Seguin]

Ross,

I don’t doubt that Reader can display more accurately some things created with TeX. I was thinking of the operational aspects of the viewer. For example, can it “sync” with any text editor, let alone the one that I prefer? This is something that I can’t live without now that I’ve used it for years. Can you command-click on a \ref displayed in Reader and have it display in a separate small window the theorem, definition, or whatever, that it’s pointing to, sizing the window so that it just shows you the statement of the theorem? I doubt that you can get Adobe interested in any of this, but if you can, that would be wonderful.

Richard Séguin

> On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:07 PM, Ross Moore <ross.moore at mq.edu.au> wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> 
> On 10/04/2015, at 1:48 AM, Richard Seguin wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 8, 2015, at 8:08 PM, Richard Seguin <riseguin at earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Adobe Reader, with its proprietary font smoothing algorithms, still gives the crispest results, almost eliminating the motivation for retina screens, but Reader is buggy and not TeX friendly at all,
> 
> Why do you say this?
> There are many features, supported within the PDF specifications,
> that can be implemented with TeX and that *only* Adobe Reader shows 
> correctly.
> 
> So if you have some things which cause you to say "not TeX friendly"
> it is quite possible that you are doing it the wrong way with TeX.
> If an effect works in a non-Adobe PDF reader, but does not work
> in Acrobat Pro or Adobe Reader, the most likely explanation is
> that it has *not* been implemented correctly, rather than that
> Adobe Reader is getting it wrong, or is not TeX-friendly.
> 
> It may well be that a package writer has not implemented the 
> PDF specifications correctly, or to best interpretation.
> 
> 
> That is not to say that Reader has no bugs at all --- it most 
> certainly does have some, as does any complex piece of software.
> I've reported many that I have found, and they do get fixed
> --- though not as quickly as one would hope for.
> 
> 
>> and probably never will be.
> 
> There are people like myself and others who are working to find 
> the *correct* ways to do things with TeX, so that these PDF 
> features can be used as intended.
> 
> There are new laws being formulated in the USA and Europe that
> will require PDF documents produced by Government and other agencies 
> to conform to the new PDF/UA recommendations --- for Accessibility
> for people with disabilities, particularly visual impairment.
> This *requires* fully tagged PDF, as well as recommendations
> about colour and screen-reading capabilities, etc. 
> 
>   http://www.aiim.org/Research-and-Publications/standards/committees/PDFUA/Technical-Implementation-Guide-32000-1
> 
> Few non-Adobe readers support many of the features needed
> to handle PDF/UA to best effect.
> 
> 
> Furthermore, Adobe has just this week announced its latest versions 
> of Acrobat Pro DC and corresponding Reader update.
> viz.
>  https://www.acrobat.com/en_us/free-trial-download.html
>  https://acrobat.adobe.com/au/en/products/pdf-reader.html
> 
> 
> 
> So please, provide explicit examples of what you think Adobe Reader
> is not supporting properly.
> I'd very much like to see such documents, run them through validators,
> and (if you have the TeX sources) try to identify the causes, which
> I'd suspect are actually deficiencies in those PDF's compilation.
> 
> 
> Providing (links to) explicit examples is a much more constructive
> thing to do than just mouth-off that something is not working the
> way you think it should.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Richard Séguin
> 
> 
> Hope this helps,
> 
> 	Ross
> 
> 
> Ross Moore
> 
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