[OS X TeX] CocoAspell still not working for me

R Martinez rm.tech at mac.com
Mon Jan 17 14:26:33 EST 2022


Themis, 

I agree with you that the TeX/LaTeX community needs a good dedicated spell checker like Excalibur and CocoAspell used to be. Nowadays, while working with LaTeX with TeXShop I use Apple’s spell checker for plain words and just ignore it with LaTeX commands, which are color-coded and easy to see.

Using Text Expander (but any typing shortcut tool will do) have compiled a rather long list of LaTeX  command shortcuts that not only saves me typing time (I’m a slooow typist) but also ensures commands are spelled correctly. So I make very  few command-typing mistakes. The downside of this approach is that one has to remember the shortcuts, but that’s not a problem for me. The Text Expander list is document-specific (I use it for just-plain English words too) and that specificity facilitates remembering shortcuts. 

Gary’s Sublime Text endorsement seems worth checking out by editor-agnostic LaTeX users.  But I love TeXShop and don’t plan to change. 

Best wishes, Raúl 

> On Jan 17, 2022, at 10:38 AM, Gary L. Gray via MacOSX-TeX <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu> wrote:
> 
> A little more than a year ago, I switched to Sublime Text for all my LaTeX'ing and haven't looked back. With LaTeXTools installed, you have a LaTeX-aware editor spell checker built in. And it has so many other cool LaTeX features.
> 
> Gary
> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Themis Matsoukas via MacOSX-TeX <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu> wrote:
>> Hi Raúl,
>> I totally agree, but what do you use then? Hard to believe that in year 2022 there is no latex-aware spell checker available for the mac. The regular spell checker is an even bigger pain that CocoAspell (which only recognizes a small subset of latex). 
>> I used to use Excalibur, but the app is totally broken in recent OS. The developer has promised a new version in the works, I hope it materializes. 
>> …or I’ll take up programming to write one myself.
>> Themis
>>>>> On Jan 17, 2022, at 12:13 PM, R Martinez via MacOSX-TeX <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> Themis, I had all sorts of trouble with CocoAspell, a worthy endeavor that has outlived its usefulness. I did install it and it sort of worked idiosyncratically. It’s badly out of date unfortunately. And it shows. I gave up on it at least a year ago, before Monterey and my M1 Mac came along.  I don’t even want to think how CocoAspell would fare in the new environment. 
>>> Consider all the time you’re wasting trying to get CocoAspell to work. Not worth it. 
>>> Best wishes, Raúl 
>>>>> On Jan 17, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2022, at 9:58 AM, Themis Matsoukas via MacOSX-TeX <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu> wrote:
>>>>> I installed CocoAspell but I cannot get it to work. Basically, it doesn’t catch *any* typos. Here is what I did:
>>>>> 1. I selected a dictionary in the CocoAspell preference pane
>>>>> <0.png>
>>>>> 2. I selected
>>>>> <1.png>
>>>> Howdy,
>>>> Strangely it looks like you selected [w_accents], not [wo_accents].
>>>>> 3. I set the dictionary in TexShop
>>>>> <2.png>
>>>>> 4… but when I spell-check *no* typos are caught. If I change to the normal English dictionary in the Spelling & Grammar window, then spell checking works, but of course it marks all the latex commands as well. 
>>>>> Too many moving parts to get this thing to work, what am I missing???
>>>>> <3.png>
>>>> You might try selecting English (i.e., all English) rather than a specific version. It seems that cocoAspell is finding the dictionaries after compiling.
>>>> Good Luck,
>>>> Herb Schulz
>>>> herbs at wideopenwest.com
>>>> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting -----------
>>>> TeX FAQ: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tex.ac.uk%2Ffaq&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=2at8c8uJutWiL%2F65SpgNclnvWiNrPlHRhRKYPTNicXs%3D&reserved=0
>>>> List Reminders and Etiquette: https://sites.esm.psu.edu/~gray/TeX/
>>>> List Archives: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdir.gmane.org%2Fgmane.comp.tex.macosx&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=wD9bUoR9C%2BFCYWueonTLmx7PayqOXO2WUkxr9CyegZo%3D&reserved=0
>>>>            https://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-tex/
>>>> TeX on Mac OS X Website: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmactex-wiki.tug.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=eMgSzA9GrLXP12IYBr6GzVt%2BwklvkuXu4joIOXzNXQ8%3D&reserved=0
>>>> List Info: https://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex
>>> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting -----------
>>> TeX FAQ: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tex.ac.uk%2Ffaq&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=2at8c8uJutWiL%2F65SpgNclnvWiNrPlHRhRKYPTNicXs%3D&reserved=0
>>> List Reminders and Etiquette: https://sites.esm.psu.edu/~gray/TeX/
>>> List Archives: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdir.gmane.org%2Fgmane.comp.tex.macosx&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=wD9bUoR9C%2BFCYWueonTLmx7PayqOXO2WUkxr9CyegZo%3D&reserved=0
>>>             https://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-tex/
>>> TeX on Mac OS X Website: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmactex-wiki.tug.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=eMgSzA9GrLXP12IYBr6GzVt%2BwklvkuXu4joIOXzNXQ8%3D&reserved=0
>>> List Info: https://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex
>> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting -----------
>> TeX FAQ: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tex.ac.uk%2Ffaq&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=2at8c8uJutWiL%2F65SpgNclnvWiNrPlHRhRKYPTNicXs%3D&reserved=0
>> List Reminders and Etiquette: https://sites.esm.psu.edu/~gray/TeX/
>> List Archives: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdir.gmane.org%2Fgmane.comp.tex.macosx&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=wD9bUoR9C%2BFCYWueonTLmx7PayqOXO2WUkxr9CyegZo%3D&reserved=0
>>              https://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-tex/
>> TeX on Mac OS X Website: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmactex-wiki.tug.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=eMgSzA9GrLXP12IYBr6GzVt%2BwklvkuXu4joIOXzNXQ8%3D&reserved=0
>> List Info: https://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex
> 
> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting -----------
> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
> List Reminders and Etiquette: https://sites.esm.psu.edu/~gray/TeX/
> List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.macosx
>               https://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-tex/
> TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/
> List Info: https://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex


> On Jan 17, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Raúl Martínez <raulmart at mac.com> wrote:
> Themis, 
> 
> I agree with you that the TeX/LaTeX community needs a good dedicated spell checker like Excalibur and CocoAspell used to be. Nowadays, while working with LaTeX with TeXShop I use Apple’s spell checker for plain words and just ignore it with LaTeX commands, which are color-coded and easy to see.
> 
> Using Text Expander, I have compiled a rather long list of LaTeX  command shortcuts that not only saves me typing time (I’m a slooow typist) but also ensures commands are spelled correctly. So I make very  few command-typing mistakes. The downside of this approach is that one has to remember the shortcuts, but that’s not a problem for me. The Text Expander list is document-specific (I use it for just-plain English words too) and that specificity facilitates remembering shortcuts. 
> 
> Gary’s Sublime Text endorsement seems worth checking out by editor-agnostic LaTeX users.  But I love TeXShop and don’t plan to change. 
> 
> Best wishes, Raúl 
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2022, at 10:38 AM, Gary L. Gray via MacOSX-TeX <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> A little more than a year ago, I switched to Sublime Text for all my LaTeX'ing and haven't looked back. With LaTeXTools installed, you have a LaTeX-aware editor spell checker built in. And it has so many other cool LaTeX features.
>> 
>> Gary
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Themis Matsoukas via MacOSX-TeX <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu> wrote:
>>> Hi Raúl,
>>> I totally agree, but what do you use then? Hard to believe that in year 2022 there is no latex-aware spell checker available for the mac. The regular spell checker is an even bigger pain that CocoAspell (which only recognizes a small subset of latex).
>>> I used to use Excalibur, but the app is totally broken in recent OS. The developer has promised a new version in the works, I hope it materializes.
>>> …or I’ll take up programming to write one myself.
>>> Themis
>>>>> On Jan 17, 2022, at 12:13 PM, R Martinez via MacOSX-TeX <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu> wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Themis, I had all sorts of trouble with CocoAspell, a worthy endeavor that has outlived its usefulness. I did install it and it sort of worked idiosyncratically. It’s badly out of date unfortunately. And it shows. I gave up on it at least a year ago, before Monterey and my M1 Mac came along.  I don’t even want to think how CocoAspell would fare in the new environment.
>>>> Consider all the time you’re wasting trying to get CocoAspell to work. Not worth it.
>>>> Best wishes, Raúl
>>>>> On Jan 17, 2022, at 8:46 AM, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 17, 2022, at 9:58 AM, Themis Matsoukas via MacOSX-TeX <macosx-tex at email.esm.psu.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> I installed CocoAspell but I cannot get it to work. Basically, it doesn’t catch *any* typos. Here is what I did:
>>>>>> 1. I selected a dictionary in the CocoAspell preference pane
>>>>>> <0.png>
>>>>>> 2. I selected
>>>>>> <1.png>
>>>>> Howdy,
>>>>> Strangely it looks like you selected [w_accents], not [wo_accents].
>>>>>> 3. I set the dictionary in TexShop
>>>>>> <2.png>
>>>>>> 4… but when I spell-check *no* typos are caught. If I change to the normal English dictionary in the Spelling & Grammar window, then spell checking works, but of course it marks all the latex commands as well.
>>>>>> Too many moving parts to get this thing to work, what am I missing???
>>>>>> <3.png>
>>>>> You might try selecting English (i.e., all English) rather than a specific version. It seems that cocoAspell is finding the dictionaries after compiling.
>>>>> Good Luck,
>>>>> Herb Schulz
>>>>> herbs at wideopenwest.com
>>>>> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting -----------
>>>>> TeX FAQ: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tex.ac.uk%2Ffaq&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=2at8c8uJutWiL%2F65SpgNclnvWiNrPlHRhRKYPTNicXs%3D&reserved=0
>>>>> List Reminders and Etiquette: https://sites.esm.psu.edu/~gray/TeX/
>>>>> List Archives: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdir.gmane.org%2Fgmane.comp.tex.macosx&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=wD9bUoR9C%2BFCYWueonTLmx7PayqOXO2WUkxr9CyegZo%3D&reserved=0
>>>>>            https://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-tex/
>>>>> TeX on Mac OS X Website: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmactex-wiki.tug.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=eMgSzA9GrLXP12IYBr6GzVt%2BwklvkuXu4joIOXzNXQ8%3D&reserved=0
>>>>> List Info: https://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex
>>>> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting -----------
>>>> TeX FAQ: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tex.ac.uk%2Ffaq&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=2at8c8uJutWiL%2F65SpgNclnvWiNrPlHRhRKYPTNicXs%3D&reserved=0
>>>> List Reminders and Etiquette: https://sites.esm.psu.edu/~gray/TeX/
>>>> List Archives: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdir.gmane.org%2Fgmane.comp.tex.macosx&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=wD9bUoR9C%2BFCYWueonTLmx7PayqOXO2WUkxr9CyegZo%3D&reserved=0
>>>>             https://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-tex/
>>>> TeX on Mac OS X Website: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmactex-wiki.tug.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=eMgSzA9GrLXP12IYBr6GzVt%2BwklvkuXu4joIOXzNXQ8%3D&reserved=0
>>>> List Info: https://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex
>>> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting -----------
>>> TeX FAQ: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tex.ac.uk%2Ffaq&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=2at8c8uJutWiL%2F65SpgNclnvWiNrPlHRhRKYPTNicXs%3D&reserved=0
>>> List Reminders and Etiquette: https://sites.esm.psu.edu/~gray/TeX/
>>> List Archives: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fdir.gmane.org%2Fgmane.comp.tex.macosx&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=wD9bUoR9C%2BFCYWueonTLmx7PayqOXO2WUkxr9CyegZo%3D&reserved=0
>>>              https://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-tex/
>>> TeX on Mac OS X Website: https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmactex-wiki.tug.org%2F&data=04%7C01%7Ceuler%40psu.edu%7C4e62a72947c24df8869708d9d9e383ee%7C7cf48d453ddb4389a9c1c115526eb52e%7C0%7C0%7C637780395116416094%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=eMgSzA9GrLXP12IYBr6GzVt%2BwklvkuXu4joIOXzNXQ8%3D&reserved=0
>>> List Info: https://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex
>> 
>> ----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting -----------
>> TeX FAQ: http://www.tex.ac.uk/faq
>> List Reminders and Etiquette: https://sites.esm.psu.edu/~gray/TeX/
>> List Archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.macosx
>>               https://email.esm.psu.edu/pipermail/macosx-tex/
>> TeX on Mac OS X Website: http://mactex-wiki.tug.org/
>> List Info: https://email.esm.psu.edu/mailman/listinfo/macosx-tex


More information about the MacOSX-TeX mailing list