<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>So if I read Herb’s document correctly (and add the missing part w.r.t the path), users of older distributions simply need to do the following, and then they won’t need to download anything new if they don’t want to?</div><div><br></div><div>sudo ln -s /Library/TeX/Distributions/Programs/texbin /Library/TeX/texbin</div><div>sudo echo “/Library/TeX/texbin” > /etc/paths.d/TeX</div><div><br></div><div>And then change their GUIs to /Library/TeX/texbin</div><div><br></div><div>Is this correct?</div><div><br></div><div>(and the trick about moving the contents of /usr/local to somewhere local before updating would also be useful for those upgrading to El Capitan from pre-Yosemite OS versions.)</div><div><br></div><div>Alan</div><div><br></div>On Jul 15, 2015, at 12:24 PM, Richard Koch <<a href="mailto:koch@uoregon.edu">koch@uoregon.edu</a>> wrote:<br><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Alan,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">When users upgrade to El Capitan, the link /usr/texbin will be removed.</div><div class="">This is not a new story; it has often happened in the past. An advantage</div><div class="">of switching to /Library/TeX/texbin is that Apple will not remove this</div><div class="">link during updates.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I recommend that users install either MacTeX-2015 or BasicTeX-2015</div><div class="">now. Each of them creates both /usr/texbin and</div><div class="">/Library/TeX/texbin. Then gradually over the summer, I recommend</div><div class="">that users reconfigure their GUI apps. TeXShop 3.52 will handle</div><div class="">this automatically, but TeX Live Utility, LaTeXiT, and BibDesk currently</div><div class="">need to be reconfigured.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">After this, users are free to use TeX Live 2015 or earlier distributions.</div><div class="">So someone in the middle of a book project might well decide to switch</div><div class="">back to TeX Live 2013 after installing BasicTeX-2015.</div><div class="">It will work today with this new configuration,</div><div class="">and the update to El Capitan will require no changes whatever.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Herb Schulz has written a document about how to reconfigure GUI</div><div class="">apps. It is linked from the El Capitan paragraph on the middle of the</div><div class="">downloading page at</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="http://tug.org/mactex" class="">tug.org/mactex</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The last part of this document explains how to create the link</div><div class="">/Library/TeX/texbin directly without installing BasicTeX-2015. The</div><div class="">disadvantage is that further steps are required to make the shell work,</div><div class="">whereas if a user installs BasicTeX-2015, then everything including</div><div class="">the shell will work now and will continue to work after the upgrade</div><div class="">to El Capitan.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Dick Koch</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 15, 2015, at 8:11 AM, Alan Munn <<a href="mailto:amunn@gmx.com" class="">amunn@gmx.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">(Apologies if this is a duplicate; the first version didn’t seem to make it.)<br class=""><br class="">On Jun 23, 2015, at 1:04 PM, Richard Koch <<a href="mailto:koch@uoregon.edu" class="">koch@uoregon.edu</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">On the other hand, the change to a replacement for /usr/texbin is essential<br class="">for El Capitan, and I do hope that /Library/TeX/texbin will be accepted<br class="">without discussion, since it will affect the configuration of lots of<br class="">GUI programs.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Hi Dick, first off, thanks as always for all the work you do on MacTeX. It’s clear that TL 2015 is now perfectly prepared for El Capitan and its prohibition on writing to /usr directly. Do you know what will happen to users who have pre-TL 2015 systems but who upgrade to El Capitan?<br class=""><br class="">I can see two possibilities: <br class=""><br class="">A. everything that used to work still works, because /usr is not touched<br class="">B. older distributions will fail to work at all because /usr/texbin isn’t there anymore after the upgrade<br class=""><br class="">Obviously if the answer is A, then there’s no potential problems for older distributions on newer OS.<br class=""><br class="">But if the answer is B, is there a simple solution to allow users with older distributions to keep using those distributions with the new link? <br class=""><br class="">If it’s just a matter of making a new link, a clickable script might help a lot of the more Terminal-phobic folk.<br class=""><br class="">Alan<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="">But as to where /Library/TeX/texbin points next, I really don’t care!<br class=""><br class="">Dick Koch<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On Jun 21, 2015, at 1:20 PM, jfbu <<a href="mailto:jfbu@free.fr" class="">jfbu@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class="">a bit of my context: the extras in my installation are from MacTeX 2014,<br class="">but recently as I had already the pretest of TeXLive 2015 installed,<br class="">when official version was released I did only a few adjustments<br class="">but did not download MacTeX 2015, (I know I am missing some bounties<br class="">like extra support in Ghostscript for far east languages)<br class="">thus my experience with TeX Dist Preference Pane might be at odds<br class="">with the latest version.<br class=""><br class="">on my system /usr/texbin was a symlink to<br class=""><br class="">/Library/TeX/Distributions/Programs/texbin<br class=""><br class="">the latter itself a symlink<br class=""><br class="">Anticipating the possible upgrade to El Capitan next fall,<br class="">I thus suppressed /usr/texbin symlink, then created the similar one<br class="">in /Library/TeX/ and updated accordingly /etc/paths.d/TeX<br class=""><br class="">This process left me with two mutually contradictory questions:<br class=""><br class="">1) if the Programs/ repertory is to serve anything, shouldn't<br class="">/Library/TeX/texbin be a symlink to it rather than to<br class="">sub-element Programs/texbin ?<br class=""><br class="">2) as I see nothing in this Distributions/Programs/, so it<br class="">should not hurt if I define the /Library/TeX/texbin symlink<br class="">to point directly to<br class="">/Library/TeX/Distributions/.DefaultTeX/Contents/Programs/texbin<br class="">which is the thing which the TeXDist Preference Pane updates<br class="">whenever one uses it to switch distributions<br class=""><br class=""></blockquote><br class=""><br class="">----------- Please Consult the Following Before Posting -----------<br class="">TeX FAQ: <a 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