<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">George,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Your description is exactly how the bug works.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The trouble is that when the user starts typing and nothing appears in the source window, the temptation is to type nonsense</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>qpweoirquwpeoriu</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">and move the cursor and type more nonsense</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>aasdofiuasdf</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">before deciding that something is wrong and quitting. But after you reopen the file, the nonsense is there.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is horrible, so I removed the "Find All" button. Thus users cannot run into the bug.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">But that's not quite right. OgreKit modifies the Find menus in the program, so there is still a "Find All" menu choice and keyboard shortcut. This is removed in 4.52 and thus will be remove in the next release, whenever it occurs.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Dick Koch<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 29, 2020, at 9:11 AM, George Tourlakis <<a href="mailto:gt@cse.yorku.ca" class="">gt@cse.yorku.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Richard, all,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am not sure if what I observed in 4.51 is related (never stayed with 4.50; 4.44 is still my “go back” version)</div><div class="">to the symptoms others mentioned.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It is not that I cannot save the file. It saves alright and compiles. But you can’t see what you are doing.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Let me elaborate.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This phenomenon I always observed after the use of the “new Find” in its Find-all mode (Apple-shift-F). Once used, the cursor stays stuck.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Any input after this you cannot see. But it <b class="">is</b> saved, and the file compiles.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This seems to be slightly different — to the best of my understanding of what others described?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers</div><div class="">George</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 27, 2020, at 9:15 AM, <a href="mailto:koch@math.uoregon.edu" class="">koch@math.uoregon.edu</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Themis,<br class=""><br class="">Aha. Done.<br class=""><br class="">The file I tested is a TeX file created 20 years ago. It did have this attribute, with the 04 you report, but no 06. 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