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<div>The program indeed still calls itself “TeXShop 5.57” in “About TeXShop”. Ignore that.</div>
<div>Originally I hoped that all users would use the same version so “Check for Updates”</div>
<div>would still work, but Apple is only supporting Sonoma and higher in TeXShop-5.58-GG,</div>
<div>so I haven’t figured out how to handle that.</div>
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<div>On Jul 19, 2026, at 1:07 PM, William Slough <wslough@gmail.com> wrote:</div>
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After downloading and installing TeXShop-5.58-GG to run on Tahoe, I noticed that the "About TeXShop" describes itself as Version 5.57. Have I done something wrong or is that what should happen?
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 19, 2026 at 2:17 PM Richard Koch <<a href="mailto:koch@uoregon.edu">koch@uoregon.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div style="line-break: after-white-space;">Brian,
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<div>Thanks for the email. TeXShop 5.57 is the “current release of TeXShop</div>
<div>for Tahoe”, but it is actually almost a year out of date and no longer recommended</div>
<div>for Tahoe.</div>
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<div>Instead, go to my web site,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://pages.uoregon.edu/koch/" target="_blank">https://pages.uoregon.edu/koch/</a></div>
<div>and read the first two links. The top link leads to the current TeXShop web page,</div>
<div>which has a special tab for Tahoe, but that tab is out of date and should be ignored.</div>
<div>The second link on my home page is a link to “TeXShop on macOS Golden Gate”.</div>
<div>This link leads to a page about TeXShop on macOS 27.0, currently in beta. Indeed</div>
<div>very recently Apple introduced a public beta for this system. Programs compiled</div>
<div>on macOS 27.0 run on Sonoma, Sequoia, Tahoe, and Golden Gate. When</div>
<div>TeXShop runs on Golden Gate, it has a few bugs, as explained on that web site.</div>
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<div>I compiled TeXShop on Golden Gate, macOS 27, and sent the program to Apple to</div>
<div>be notarized. At the bottom of the “TeXShop on macOS Golden Gate” web page</div>
<div>you can find links to the full source code for this version, and the notarized version</div>
<div>by Apple.</div>
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<div>And now the key point. I have two machines, one running the latest version</div>
<div>of Tahoe, and one running the public beta of Golden Gate. If you are on Tahoe</div>
<div>and download TeXShop-5.58-GG from the “TeXShop on macOS Golden Gate” web</div>
<div>site, then you will get the very latest version of TeXShop, but running on Tahoe rather</div>
<div>than on Golden Gate. ALL OF THE GG BUGS VANISH WHEN THE PROGRAM IS</div>
<div>RUN ON TAHOE! This means that the bugs are not in my code, or in XCode, but</div>
<div>instead in macOS 27.0 itself.</div>
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<div>So switch to TeXShop-5.58-GG on Tahoe. It is a more recent version of TeXShop</div>
<div>than the 577 version you are using, it has the new dark mode described on the web</div>
<div>page, and it definitely fixes your problem with the three possible Find Panels (because</div>
<div>I checked before writing).</div>
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<div>I actually recommend that everyone on Tahoe switch to TeXShop-5.58-GG.</div>
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<div>Dick</div>
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<div>On Jul 19, 2026, at 3:21 AM, Brian Coleman <<a href="mailto:brian.coleman.velchron@gmail.com" target="_blank">brian.coleman.velchron@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>for some reason the pdf window top right search panel no longer appears, as before.</div>
<div>Tried all 3 Find Panel settings: Apple Find Panel, Apple Find Bar and OgreKit Find panel.</div>
<div>None work after restart. </div>
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<div>ps: I mention again how much I appreciate the wonderful horizontal split screen function I learnt of by chance,</div>
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