[OS X Emacs] Verifying Aquamacs

Roussanka Loukanova rl.stpuu at gmail.com
Fri Apr 24 14:31:27 EDT 2020


Hi David,

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 8:00 PM David Reitter <david.reitter at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Guys,  Aquamacs checks for a new version every three days.  If the website
> refuses to serve cgi-bin/currentversion.cgi without HTTP and only with a
> certificate signed by an authority unknown to Emacs, then every user is
> going to get that message.  And version updates will fail, too.   Suggest
> disabling HTTPS on the website for now.
>

On which side this disabling is to be done? If on the side of us, the
users, how this can be done? But I would not dare doing something on my
side.

Best Regards,
Roussanka

> David
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 1:50 PM Arthur E. OGUS <ogus at math.berkeley.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> This morning I again found the following message (in an emacs window) on
>> starting  Aquamacs:
>>
>> Certificate information
>> Issued by:          Let's Encrypt Authority X3
>> Issued to:          CN=aquamacs.org
>> Hostname:           aquamacs.org
>> Public key:         RSA, signature: RSA-SHA256
>> Protocol:           TLS1.2, key: ECDHE-RSA, cipher: AES-128-GCM, mac: AEAD
>> Security level:     Medium
>> Valid:              From 2020-04-16 to 2020-07-15
>>
>>
>> The TLS connection to aquamacs.org:443 is insecure for the following
>> reasons:
>>
>> the certificate was signed by an unknown and therefore untrusted authority
>> certificate could not be verified
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:48 AM, Roussanka Loukanova <rl.stpuu at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> FWIW, I was just writing a similar comment. These are two essentially
>>> unrelated functions, that are doing two completely unrelated things. The
>>> only possible couplings I can imagine are
>>>
>>> 1) a failure of network connectivity that prevents both of them from
>>> working. (Note that the “check for update” function presumably always needs
>>> connectivity, but the “verify” function doesn’t if it doesn’t need to check
>>> for developer certificate validity or revocation)
>>>
>>>
>> In my case, it seems to me that the network connectivity shouldn't be a
>> problem, judging by:
>>
>> - both problems have started recently
>> - Skim / TexShop > Check for Updates...
>> pops up a good window [*You’re up-to-date!...*]
>>
>> 2) some sort of strange behavior (aka “bug”) in the macOS certificate
>>> validation code that’s causing valid, or validatable, certificates to fail
>>> to validate.
>>>
>>> As wild speculation, Arthur’s report that he was getting a validation
>>> error for an apparently valid Lets Encrypt cert _could_ be a hint that
>>> something of that sort is going on, or it could be a legitimate (ie,
>>> non-buggy) failure for any number of reasons. Hard to sort that out without
>>> more data.
>>>
>>> (Out of curiosity, for Arthur or anyone else seeing Lets Encrypt errors,
>>> can you say what is generating that message? Web browser? Some other
>>> downloader? ???)
>>>
>>>
>> I have the same question. I got a message similar to Arthur's, by
>> Aquamacs.app (perhaps by clicking Checking for Updates) a couple of days
>> ago. It also prompted me to select among three options, and after that,
>> perhaps by selecting Accept (or something like that), I get like Bill, just
>> a message "Mark set".
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Roussanka
>>
>>
>>> —john
>>>
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