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Re: [Mac OS X TeX] cocoAspell
by "Gilbert Harman" <harman at Princeton.EDU>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] cocoAspell
by "Gary L. Gray" <gray at engr.psu.edu>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] cocoAspell
by "William McCallum" <mccallumwilliam at qwest.net>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] cocoAspell
by "Adrian Heathcote" <adrian.heathcote at philosophy.usyd.edu.au>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] cocoAspell
by "Jacques Distler" <distler at golem.ph.utexas.edu>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] cocoAspell
by "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: Bib Managers under OS X
by "Jan Erik Moström" <lists at mostrom.pp.se>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] New TeXLive-teTeX release (minor changes)
by "Jan Erik Moström" <lists at mostrom.pp.se>
URL typo correction for the New TeXLive-teTeX release
by "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: eps drawings (Mac OS X)
by "Javier Puértolas Sagardoy" <jpuertolas at unavarra.es>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: eps drawings (Mac OS X)
by "Bruno Voisin" <Bruno.Voisin at hmg.inpg.fr>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] How many TeX's for OSX are there now ?
by "Martin Costabel" <costabel at wanadoo.fr>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] How many TeX's for OSX are there now ?
by "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Problem with TeXShop 1.15
by "Yves Gaudemer" <gaudemer at ipgp.jussieu.fr>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] How many TeX's for OSX are there now ?
by "Benji Fisher" <fisherbb at bc.edu>
Re: [Mac OS X TeX] How many TeX's for OSX are there now ?
by "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] cocoAspell
From: "Gilbert Harman" <harman at Princeton.EDU>
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 20:06:10 -0500
Check in System Preferences, the Spelling preference pane, to make sure TeX
is checked.
Gil
On 2/10/02 7:47 PM, "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au> wrote:
> I agree with Bill McCallum - it seems to be just deleting the
> \ and looking for the word in the dictionary. Does anyone know
> if thats right?
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] cocoAspell
From: "Gary L. Gray" <gray at engr.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 20:33:41 -0500
On 2/10/02 8:06 PM, "Gilbert Harman" <harman at Princeton.EDU> wrote:
> Check in System Preferences, the Spelling preference pane, to make sure TeX
> is checked.
>
> On 2/10/02 7:47 PM, "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au> wrote:
>
>> I agree with Bill McCallum - it seems to be just deleting the
>> \ and looking for the word in the dictionary. Does anyone know
>> if thats right?
It's checked here and it is still doing this. The behavior on my machine
seems to agree with the above assessment.
--
Gary L. Gray
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] cocoAspell
From: "William McCallum" <mccallumwilliam at qwest.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 20:12:57 -0700
I just discovered that, on my installation, even though cocoAspell
incorrectly flags TeX commands as misspelled by underlining them (since
I have the "Check spelling as you type" option checked), it does not
find them when I run it as a spell checker using the "Spelling ..." or
"Check Spelling" options. So maybe that's the difference between those
of us who are saying it works and those who are saying it doesn't.
Regards,
Bill McCallum
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] cocoAspell
From: "Adrian Heathcote" <adrian.heathcote at philosophy.usyd.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 14:39:04 +1100
All---
> though cocoAspell incorrectly flags TeX commands as misspelled by
> underlining them (since I have the "Check spelling as you type" option
> checked), it does not find them when I run it as a spell checker using
> the "Spelling ..." or "Check Spelling" options. So maybe that's the
> difference between those of us who are saying it works and those who
> are saying it doesn't.
This is exactly my experience---with one exception: running "Spelling
"
over a document caused it to flag \documentclass but no other latex
commands and certainly not \emph, of which there were plenty. BTW at the
time of running this over this old document, 'Check spelling as you
type" was checked, but of course there was no new typing for it to work
on. But this means that the program has two ways of working, and the
filter only works on one of them.
> Cheers
Adrian Heathcote
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] cocoAspell
From: "Jacques Distler" <distler at golem.ph.utexas.edu>
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 21:51:53 -0600
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"Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au> wrote:
> Hhm thats strange. So at the moment we have some people who get told
> that
>
> \emph and \textbf
>
> are mispelt and some who get them ignored. Is that right ?
They're ignored for me (along with \documentclass, etc).
>
> I find that the following misspelt
>
> \emph
>
> \textbf
>
> \frod
>
> but the following are OK
>
> \fred
>
> \space
>
> \section
>
>
>
> I agree with Bill McCallum - it seems to be just deleting the
> \ and looking for the word in the dictionary. Does anyone know
> if thats right?
>
Perhaps you forgot to check the TeX filter in the cocoaAspell preferences?
The behaviour you are seeing is compatible with that option being
unchecked.
[Personally, I had trouble with cocoaAspell until I remembered to include
it among the login items in the Login PreferencePane. After that, it has
worked flawlessly.]
JD
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] cocoAspell
From: "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:41:08 +1030
OK I seem to get correct TeX filtering if I have
(1) TeX (and only TeX) set in the SystemPreference
(2) Open to a new document and set the spelling under
Edit > Spelling to English (british) Aspell
(3) Select the whole doc and do Check Spelling
I am finding that TeXShop loses the English (british) Aspell
setting in Edit > Setting when I quit and launch again. It
goes back to English (Apple). I
suspect this was part of my earlier problems.
Michael
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: Bib Managers under OS X
From: "Jan Erik Moström" <lists at mostrom.pp.se>
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 21:15:04 +0100
At 2002-02-07 08:59, Bruno Voisin <Bruno.Voisin at hmg.inpg.fr> wrote:
>Gary Gray's Tools page at <http://www.esm.psu.edu/mac-tex/tools.html>
>mentions a FileMaker bibliographic database, and I suspect there are
>probably others. The latest FileMaker Pro is OS X-native (but alas not
>free!), so with it you should have an OS X solution to your problem.
I tried it but wasn't very impressed.
>I haven't used FileMaker for years, so I don't know exactly how it's
>like now, but in the mid-90s I managed the organisation of a scientific
>conference with it and it was a pleasure to use it.
FileMaker is nice for certain things but it's also kind of restricted. (I
have one database that manage users in a Linux/Windows/Mac lab, I use it
daily and it works fine here but for other things ... well, it doesn't work).
jem
--
Jan Erik Moström jem at mostrom.pp.se www.mostrom.pp.se
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] New TeXLive-teTeX release (minor changes)
From: "Jan Erik Moström" <lists at mostrom.pp.se>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 07:00:29 +0100
At 2002-02-10 21:11, Gerben Wierda <sherlock at rna.nl> wrote:
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/TeX.dmg
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/TeXLive-teTeX.dmg
>
>ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/TeXLive-20020204-teTeX-texmf-beta-
20020129.
>dmg
>
>ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/TeXLive-20020204-teTeX-texmf-beta-
20020129-
>2002-02-10-14-00-56.
>dmg
Is there a "tex-gs" missing in the path?
jem
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Jan Erik Moström jem at mostrom.pp.se www.mostrom.pp.se
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Subject: URL typo correction for the New TeXLive-teTeX release
From: "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:09:39 +0100
I have to correct a typo. The TeX stuff is in subdirectory tex-gs.
On Sunday, February 10, 2002, at 09:11 , Gerben Wierda wrote:
> It can be downloaded as (take your pick, at this moment they are all
> the same):
>
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/TeX.dmg
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/TeXLive-teTeX.dmg
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/TeXLive-20020204-teTeX-texmf-beta-20020129.
> dmg
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/TeXLive-20020204-teTeX-texmf-beta-20020129-2002-02-10-14-00-56.
> dmg
Correct URLs:
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/TeX.dmg
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/TeXLive-teTeX.dmg
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-
gs/TeXLive-20020204-teTeX-texmf-beta-20020129.dmg
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-
gs/TeXLive-20020204-teTeX-texmf-beta-20020129-2002-02-10-14-00-56.dmg
>
> If you download one of the latter and the name is being chopped, you
> are downloading to a filesystem with filename length limitations. Take
> one of the former instead.
>
> People who maintain links to my distribution (e.g. frontend developers)
> should link to one of the following:
>
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/TeX.dmg (is whatever I am
> using, one of the following:)
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/TeXLive-teTeX.dmg (TeXLive
> programs, teTeX texmf tree)
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/teTeX-teTeX.dmg (teTeX
> programs, teTeX texmf tree)
Correct URLs:
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/TeX.dmg (is whatever I am
using, one of the following:)
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/TeXLive-teTeX.dmg
(TeXLive programs, teTeX texmf tree)
ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/tex-gs/teTeX-teTeX.dmg (teTeX
programs, teTeX texmf tree)
>
> where TeX.dmg is the preferred link.
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: eps drawings (Mac OS X)
From: "Javier Puértolas Sagardoy" <jpuertolas at unavarra.es>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:46:02 +0100
I think the Eps that omnigraffle creates don't work with psfrag either.
It would like to be wrong about this, because omnigraffle semms to me a
nice program.
Javier
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] Re: eps drawings (Mac OS X)
From: "Bruno Voisin" <Bruno.Voisin at hmg.inpg.fr>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:55:40 +0100
In my experience psfrag only works reliably with one-letter tags.
Illustrator, for example, separates each letter of a tag in the EPS
output it produces, in which case psfrag cannot do its magic.
In any case, with PDF gradually replacing EPS format, I've given up on
psfrag.
Bruno Voisin
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] How many TeX's for OSX are there now ?
From: "Martin Costabel" <costabel at wanadoo.fr>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:53:13 +0100
Thanks, this is very useful!
Just one small remark that may help to get an even more complete picture.
Michael Murray wrote:
[]
> (b) teTeX from Fink. Not sure why you would do this instead of
> Gerben's teTeX. Particularly
> as most (all ?) of the applications below which rely on you having a
> teTeX are assuming it is
> Gerben's. But its there.
There are a couple of good reasons to do this:
- Ease of installation: If you have Fink installed, you just say
"fink install tetex-macosx" or "fink install bundle-tetex",
and it takes care of all the rest.
No need to know the latest URL of Gerben's packages.
And you can watch what it is doing while it compiles the binaries.
- Stability: If there are any conflicts with the rest of the Fink
packages,
you can be pretty sure the maintainer of the Fink tetex packages will
resolve them quickly.
BTW, you don't install Fink's tetex instead of Gerben's. Fink tetex *is*
Gerben's teTeX, just not the very latest version. It gets its sources
from the CTAN tetex directory and applies Gerben's patches. And it has a
standard texmf tree layout, just not rooted at /usr/local, but at /sw.
This shouldn't be a problem for the GUI applications. It isn't for
iTeXMac, in any case, which works quite well here with Fink tetex.
--
Martin
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] How many TeX's for OSX are there now ?
From: "Michael Murray" <mmurray at maths.adelaide.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:55:52 +1030
>Thanks, this is very useful!
>
>Just one small remark that may help to get an even more complete picture.
>
>Michael Murray wrote:
>[]
>> (b) teTeX from Fink. Not sure why you would do this instead of
>> Gerben's teTeX. Particularly
>> as most (all ?) of the applications below which rely on you having a
>> teTeX are assuming it is
>> Gerben's. But its there.
>
>There are a couple of good reasons to do this:
>
>- Ease of installation: If you have Fink installed, you just say
> "fink install tetex-macosx" or "fink install bundle-tetex",
> and it takes care of all the rest.
> No need to know the latest URL of Gerben's packages.
> And you can watch what it is doing while it compiles the binaries.
>- Stability: If there are any conflicts with the rest of the Fink
>packages,
> you can be pretty sure the maintainer of the Fink tetex packages will
> resolve them quickly.
>
>BTW, you don't install Fink's tetex instead of Gerben's. Fink tetex *is*
>Gerben's teTeX, just not the very latest version. It gets its sources
>from the CTAN tetex directory and applies Gerben's patches. And it has a
>standard texmf tree layout, just not rooted at /usr/local, but at /sw.
>This shouldn't be a problem for the GUI applications. It isn't for
>iTeXMac, in any case, which works quite well here with Fink tetex.
>
>--
>Martin
>
Hi Martin
Thanks for that. I was thinking of the package called tetex-base which
I thought that was a more standard tetex install and not Gerben's
tetex unless you installed tetex-macosx over the top or something?
To be honest I am not sure of the various choices here so I would
be greatful if anyone could clarify them.
I guess I should just email Dave Morrison !
Thanks - Michael
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Subject: Problem with TeXShop 1.15
From: "Yves Gaudemer" <gaudemer at ipgp.jussieu.fr>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:21:55 +0100
Hello,
Until a few days ago, I have been using TeXShop and was perfectly happy with
it. I was delighted when the LaTeX palette was provided (I almost stopped
missing Alpha + OzTeX...).
I downloaded TeXShop 1.15 and ran into trouble immediately : when I compile
a text that includes pdf figures with the Pdftex option (in the Composer
menu) and with the new LaTeX template, I get an error message saying :
LaTeX Error : Cannot determine size of graphic in australie.pdf (no
BoundingBox)
Australie.pdf was generated by GMT as a PS figure then saved as pdf by
Illustrator.
The text compiled normally with all previous versions of TeXShop. Nothing
has changed in my configuration (same OS, same teTeX distribution).
Did someone run into the same problem ?
Thank you for your help,
Yves
--
Yves Gaudemer
Laboratoire de Tectonique - UMR CNRS 7578
Institut de physique du globe de Paris - case 89
4 place Jussieu - 75252 Paris cedex 05 - FRANCE
Tel : +33 (0)1 44 27 24 36 - Fax : +33 (0)1 44 27 24 40
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] How many TeX's for OSX are there now ?
From: "Benji Fisher" <fisherbb at bc.edu>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 14:13:07 -0500
On Monday, February 11, 2002, at 06:25 AM, Michael Murray wrote:
>> Thanks, this is very useful!
>>
>> Just one small remark that may help to get an even more complete
>> picture.
>>
>> Michael Murray wrote:
>> []
>>> (b) teTeX from Fink. Not sure why you would do this instead of
>>> Gerben's teTeX. Particularly
>>> as most (all ?) of the applications below which rely on you having a
>>> teTeX are assuming it is
>>> Gerben's. But its there.
>>
>> There are a couple of good reasons to do this:
>>
>> - Ease of installation: If you have Fink installed, you just say
>> "fink install tetex-macosx" or "fink install bundle-tetex",
>> and it takes care of all the rest.
>> No need to know the latest URL of Gerben's packages.
>> And you can watch what it is doing while it compiles the binaries.
>> - Stability: If there are any conflicts with the rest of the Fink
>> packages,
>> you can be pretty sure the maintainer of the Fink tetex packages will
>> resolve them quickly.
>> [snip]
> Hi Martin
>
> Thanks for that. I was thinking of the package called tetex-base which
> I thought that was a more standard tetex install and not Gerben's
> tetex unless you installed tetex-macosx over the top or something?
>
> To be honest I am not sure of the various choices here so I would
> be greatful if anyone could clarify them.
>
> I guess I should just email Dave Morrison !
> [snip]
Another possible reason for using tetex with Fink is that you can
use xdvi and other tools under XDarwin. This provides one solution to
the "All my figures are in eps format, not pdf" problem; there are other
solutions, of course.
HTH --Benji Fisher
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Subject: Re: [Mac OS X TeX] How many TeX's for OSX are there now ?
From: "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:38:04 +0100
On Monday, February 11, 2002, at 10:53 , Martin Costabel wrote:
> BTW, you don't install Fink's tetex instead of Gerben's. Fink tetex *is*
> Gerben's teTeX, just not the very latest version. It gets its sources
> from the CTAN tetex directory and applies Gerben's patches.
As my patches have been integrated now in TeX Live (and teTeX) if
necessary, the patches are no longer maintained and are increasingly out
of date. The patches are against a teTeX beta from December 2000 and a
pdfTeX beta release from August 2001.
So long as you use TeX+dvips+ghostscript, that is no big deal. But if
you use pdfTeX, it pays to be recent if you want to produce good PDF as
PDF has been updated and fixed a lot over the last year.
G
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