MacOSX-TeX Digest #258 - 03/08/02
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MacOSX-TeX Digest #258 - Friday, March 8, 2002
Re: could use some info
by "david craig" <dac at panix.com>
[OS X TeX] Re: could use some info
by "William Duckworth" <wmd at iastate.edu>
Strange behavior with TeXShop 1.16 and OSX 10.1.3 combination
by "Hemant Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Re: could use some info/follow up please
by <get86 at mac.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] Re: could use some info/follow up please
by "William McCallum" <mccallumwilliam at qwest.net>
[OS X TeX] TeXShop 1.17
by "Richard Koch" <koch at darkwing.uoregon.edu>
Re: could use some info/follow up please 2
by <get86 at mac.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] New Installer program help file posted, comments welcome
by <get86 at mac.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] problem using gs 6.52 with teTeX
by "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Re: [OS X TeX] problem using gs 6.52 with teTeX
by "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs?
by "Mark Guzdial" <guzdial at cc.gatech.edu>
Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs?
by "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
Re: [OS X TeX] Re: could use some info/follow up please 2
by "William McCallum" <mccallumwilliam at qwest.net>
[OS X TeX] Re: could use some info/follow up please 2
by "Jon Guyer" <jguyer at his.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] Re: could use some info/follow up please 2
by "Aldo Manfroi" <ajm at saffy.ucsd.edu>
WAY OT (re: to Jonathan E. Guyer)
by <get86 at mac.com>
batch convert eps to pdf using epstopdf
by "Hanspeter Schaub" <HanspeterSchaub at mac.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] batch convert eps to pdf using epstopdf
by "Piet van Oostrum" <piet at cs.uu.nl>
Re: [OS X TeX] batch convert eps to pdf using epstopdf
by "Hanspeter Schaub" <HanspeterSchaub at mac.com>
Re: [OS X TeX] batch convert eps to pdf using epstopdf
by "Martin Costabel" <costabel at wanadoo.fr>
Re: [OS X TeX] batch convert eps to pdf using epstopdf
by "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs?
by "Ross Moore" <ross at ics.mq.edu.au>
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Subject: Re: could use some info
From: "david craig" <dac at panix.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:11:09 -0500 (EST)
I'd try writing the oztex-info list, with a little bit more detail about
what problems are being experienced. The address can be found at
<http://www.trevorrow.com>. Very helpful list.
> Another thing, most of my people who are using OzTeX really use (if I
> can say that) Alpha. That is, these are hard ones to win over to
> something that's on OS X now
Why would you want them to? Alpha X will arrive some day, and in the
meantime Alpha works just fine in Classic. If they like it, why waste
any energy trying to get them to change? I've yet to encounter anything
that can holde a candle to Alpha, on any platform. (That's not an
invitation to the emacs crazies .. erm .. I mean, users ... to start an
editors war, by the way. Just stating *my* preference.)
David Craig
<http://www.panix.com/~dac/>
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Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: could use some info
From: "William Duckworth" <wmd at iastate.edu>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:07:18 -0600
I agree. I see nothing that holds a candle to Alpha (and believe me I
tried for several months after OSX became stable!). I'll happily keep
booting Classic until AlphaX is ready. Emacs has a steep learning
curve and despite what some have said, I thought Alpha was (nearly)
trivial to learn to use (I largely ignored all its many features when
I first used it for TeXing).
AlphaTk would be great if the Aqua implementation of Tk/Tcl was more
polished. I imagine AlphaX and a polished Mac OS X Tk will probably
hit the web about the same time!
>
>Why would you want them to? Alpha X will arrive some day, and in the
>meantime Alpha works just fine in Classic. If they like it, why waste
>any energy trying to get them to change? I've yet to encounter anything
>that can holde a candle to Alpha, on any platform. (That's not an
>invitation to the emacs crazies .. erm .. I mean, users ... to start an
>editors war, by the way. Just stating *my* preference.)
--
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Dr. William Duckworth II email: wmd at iastate.edu
326 Snedecor Hall phone: 515-294-7766
Iowa State University fax: 515-294-4040
Statistical Laboratory and Spring 2002 office hours:
Department of Statistics M 9a, W 3p, R 8:30a, F 1p
Ames, IA 50011-1210 http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wmd/
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Subject: Strange behavior with TeXShop 1.16 and OSX 10.1.3 combination
From: "Hemant Bhargava" <hkb at mac.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:50:15 -0500
Hi -
I've noticed some strange things with my TeXShop 1.16 and OSX 10.1.3
combination:
1) I can't drag-drop .tex files created in other programs onto the
TeXShop icon. I have to use the file browser to open them. Never had
this problem earlier.
2) It suddenly (and unpredictably) crashes after I begin editing a file
I know problems similar to #2 were reported earlier .. but apparently
everyone else is perfectly happy with 1.16? (I am, too ... it's got some
neat new features, but I thought I'd mention these problems)
Cheers
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Subject: Re: could use some info/follow up please
From: <get86 at mac.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:55:28 -0500
yes of course you all are right! I was mainly speaking from not wanting
my new OSX users to experience any problems by using Classic, i.e., keep
them in X as much as possible. -and you all are saying you are happy
with Alpha is Classic mode, correct? (not booted into 9, but Classic
mode).
my follow up is: are you Alpha users (btw, i'm referring to Alpha v7.2)
using also TeXShop? or what for you makes up your Mac TeX'ing package?
anyone else who wants to chime in feel free, i'd like to know.
thank you very much.
Ted Rogers
FSU MathNet | Apple Systems
On Thursday, March 7, 2002, at 10:07 PM, William Duckworth wrote:
> I agree. I see nothing that holds a candle to Alpha (and believe me I
> tried for several months after OSX became stable!). I'll happily keep
> booting Classic until AlphaX is ready. Emacs has a steep learning curve
> and despite what some have said, I thought Alpha was (nearly) trivial
> to learn to use (I largely ignored all its many features when I first
> used it for TeXing).
>
> AlphaTk would be great if the Aqua implementation of Tk/Tcl was more
> polished. I imagine AlphaX and a polished Mac OS X Tk will probably hit
> the web about the same time!
>
>
>
>>
>> Why would you want them to? Alpha X will arrive some day, and in the
>> meantime Alpha works just fine in Classic. If they like it, why waste
>> any energy trying to get them to change? I've yet to encounter
>> anything
>> that can holde a candle to Alpha, on any platform. (That's not an
>> invitation to the emacs crazies .. erm .. I mean, users ... to start an
>> editors war, by the way. Just stating *my* preference.)
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: could use some info/follow up please
From: "William McCallum" <mccallumwilliam at qwest.net>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:17:11 -0700
On Thursday, March 7, 2002, at 08:55 PM, get86 at mac.com wrote:
> yes of course you all are right! I was mainly speaking from not
> wanting my new OSX users to experience any problems by using Classic,
> i.e., keep them in X as much as possible. -and you all are saying you
> are happy with Alpha is Classic mode, correct? (not booted into 9, but
> Classic mode).
>
> my follow up is: are you Alpha users (btw, i'm referring to Alpha
> v7.2) using also TeXShop? or what for you makes up your Mac TeX'ing
> package?
>
>
I was a hardcore Alpha/OzTeX user, but liked the display of TeXShop (and
was temporarily seduced by the idea of not having to boot up Classic). I
played around with all the OS X alternatives, but kept coming back to
TeXShop. Now that it can be configured to work with an external editor,
I have been using it with Emacs running under X windows with auctex
installed, but will probably go back to Alpha X when it comes out. Using
Alpha under Classic also works well, and would work with TeXShop. The
only thing that your professors might miss if they are picky is the
ability to fire up TeXShop (or OzTeX running under OS X) from Classic
Alpha. But this is a minor annoyance, since you can TeX the file from
TeXShop. Of course, there's the guilt about abandoning OzTeX to deal
with, but everyone has to cope with that in their own way.
Anyway, all this fussing about which setup to use is merely a substitute
for actually getting some work done. That's what you should really tell
your professors!
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Subject: [OS X TeX] TeXShop 1.17
From: "Richard Koch" <koch at darkwing.uoregon.edu>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 21:38:17 -0800
Folks,
TeXShop 1.17 is available at
http://www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop
This minor upgrade fixes the bug reported here: users would open a new
document, place the cursor somewhere, type RETURN and crash the
program. I could never reproduce this behavior, but crash logs from users
made it possible to pinpoint the problem and fix it. Thanks.
There have been complaints that bugs were fixed silently on the web
without changing the program version number. As you see, I'm trying to
reform.
Dick Koch
koch at math.uoregon.edu
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Subject: Re: could use some info/follow up please 2
From: <get86 at mac.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 00:58:48 -0500
On Friday, March 8, 2002, at 12:17 AM, William McCallum wrote:
> On Thursday, March 7, 2002, at 08:55 PM, get86 at mac.com wrote:
>
>> yes of course you all are right! I was mainly speaking from not
>> wanting my new OSX users to experience any problems by using Classic,
>> i.e., keep them in X as much as possible. -and you all are saying you
>> are happy with Alpha is Classic mode, correct? (not booted into 9, but
>> Classic mode).
>>
>> my follow up is: are you Alpha users (btw, i'm referring to Alpha
>> v7.2) using also TeXShop? or what for you makes up your Mac TeX'ing
>> package?
>>
>>
>
> I was a hardcore Alpha/OzTeX user, but liked the display of TeXShop
> (and was temporarily seduced by the idea of not having to boot up
> Classic). I played around with all the OS X alternatives, but kept
> coming back to TeXShop. Now that it can be configured to work with an
> external editor,
that was funny post. (they don't say that, i'm the one changing
everything bwuahaha. ;)
(i'm the mac sys guy, OSX is my sword.:)
i have 2 questions, sorry for being a pest:
about "configuring TeXShop to work with an external editor (i've been
reading about the "glory" of this... where (or simply 'how') can i find
out how to set up such a combo?
> I have been using it with Emacs running under X windows with auctex
> installed,
i set up all my X macs with XFree, et al. should i be installing auctex?
see, they don't say that... they do work... i have to show 'em mo'
better stuff... ESPECIALLY if i want the dept to kep marching toward
OSX... (i'm on a mission from... ? ;)
thanks a lot folks.
-Ted
p.s. Richard, i was just wrapping another install -yes at this hour, my
break starts tomorrow- and oops! gotta go back and do 1.17! :)
> but will probably go back to Alpha X when it comes out. Using Alpha
> under Classic also works well, and would work with TeXShop. The only
> thing that your professors might miss if they are picky is the ability
> to fire up TeXShop (or OzTeX running under OS X) from Classic Alpha.
> But this is a minor annoyance, since you can TeX the file from TeXShop.
> Of course, there's the guilt about abandoning OzTeX to deal with, but
> everyone has to cope with that in their own way.
>
> Anyway, all this fussing about which setup to use is merely a
> substitute for actually getting some work done. That's what you should
> really tell your professors!
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] New Installer program help file posted, comments welcome
From: <get86 at mac.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 02:32:47 -0500
sounds and looks really good!
can't wait to use it.
-TR
On Thursday, March 7, 2002, at 08:27 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
> I have written an internet-aware, lazy download installer program and
> am at the point of releasing it with three packages:
> - Tex Live binaries
> - TeX texmf tree
> - ghostscript
>
> This program is a generic installer and other people may be able to use
> it to distribute software. I will use it for distributing my TeX
> distribution.
>
> The program is finished in its first version. I have posted the help
> file, which describes the program on
>
> ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/macosx/i-Installer.rtfd.tar.gz
>
> I welcome your comments before I finalize and release.
>
> Gerben Wierda
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] problem using gs 6.52 with teTeX
From: "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:41:09 +0100
On Thursday, March 7, 2002, at 10:30 , Ross Moore wrote:
>
> Hi Gerben
>
>> The difference between -Ppdf and not is thus that it uses type 1
>> versions of available metafont fonts. These look slightly worse when
>> printing, normally, because they are resolution independent and thus
>> less optimized for actual printing.
>>
>> The official teTeX way of handling this is doing a lot of unix stuff
>> and
>> runnig some unix scripts to make using the type1 metafont variants the
>> default. But that would disable returning in an easy way to maximum
>> print quality, so this is why I do not ship it that way. Moving from no
>> type1-variants to type1-variants is simple (-Ppdf) but the other way
>> around is impossible from teh command line without changing your setup.
>
> This is precisely the point that I've tried to make a couple of times,
> on this and/or the pdftex list, when people have asked why Type 1 fonts
> are not the default for dvips.
> You have just said it better than I was able to.
>
>> Since altpdftex is called by TeXShop when it wants the tex+dvips+gs
>> route, it would be best that you could give it free format arguments.
>> you could then add --dviopts "-Ppdf" to the calling of altpdftex.
>> Richard Koch has promised to look at that for a next release.
>>
>> pdfTeX on the other hand assumes it makes PDF anyway, and is therefore
>> configured to use as many sclable type1 versions as it can find.
>>
>
>> All of this has absolutely *nothing* to do with gs.
>
> Not quite true. You can make it relevant to GS, since you can
> --- and probably should --- configure GS to find the Type 1 fonts
> itself. It has a Fontmap file, as well as a variable $GS_FONTS .
>
> Now you can write config files for dvips (called config.gs and
> psfonts.gs , say) which cause Type 1 fonts to be *not* embedded
> into the .ps files generated using dvips -Pgs .
> This keeps the files much smaller in size, yet they work perfectly
> with ps2pdf or any other use of Ghostscript, since it finds the
> fonts itself.
>
> This is easily the best way to work with LaTeX2HTML, which needs to
> make *lots* of PostScript images, prior to processing these
> with Ghostscript, to eventually become .gif or .png .
> (The difference can be hundreds of MB of temporary storage.)
>
> BTW, it's better to use Type 1 rather than resolution-optimized bitmaps
> for these low-res images, since Ghostscript can anti-alias the fonts.
> The results on-screen are truly significant.
I suggest we'll have a decent look at this issue (you make some
excellent points) after I have releaseed my Installer project. Some
patience, and tis is probably the first improvement I'll have a look at
after the i-Installer release.
G
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] problem using gs 6.52 with teTeX
From: "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:59:45 +0100
On Thursday, March 7, 2002, at 11:07 , Richard Koch wrote:
> However, my copy of altpdflatex says that "dviopts" has been
> changed to "dvipsopts".
Yes --dvipsopt, I made a typo.
> TeXShop has had the ability to interprete command line options
> for the scripts for quite a long time. For example, if the script name
> in
My fault, I did not know this. Because of the check mark for 'save PS
output' I figured you could not add the arguments. But the check mark is
just a convenience --- and not saved in Preferences, right?)
> Are you saying that TeXShop needs to do more? Or maybe you
> are saying that the default command for altpdflatex should include
> --dvipsopts "-Ppdf". If so, please write immediately because I have to
> put out a new version tomorrow fixing one small problem, and I
> can make that change at the same time.
I think it would be good to make -Ppdf the default. I think that
nowadays, having the absolute optimum device-dependent output is only
important for very few people, those people will be able to run
altpdftex by hand.
Maybe another check mark for 'produce best output for current printer
resolution' versus 'produce maximum device independent output' would be
nice. In the case of max device independent, you could add Ttbbold.map
and wolfram.map on the command line as well (better make the flags to
add for the check mark a configurable setting with default value -Ppdf
-u +Ttbbold.map -u +wolfram.map)
Actually, I think -u +pdftex.map -u +Ttbbold.map -u +wolfram.map is
better. -Ppdf depends on the file config.pdf. This file, as shipped,
does not(!) use pdftex.map , but has its own set (the whole font mapping
business could do with some cleanup) of type1's to add. pdftex.map is
used by pdftex.cfg.
G
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs?
From: "Mark Guzdial" <guzdial at cc.gatech.edu>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:02:29 -0500
Georgia Tech is on break this week, and my email is a little off, so
I just noticed that my fix for the slowdown doesn't seem to have made
it to the list.
I deal with the slowdown by editing Enrico's loadup.el file. If you
turn off all the BibCite things, the speed increases back to normal.
I didn't notice the slowdown at first because I was editing a file
that had no bibliography. I noticed the slowdown later when I was
editing something with a bazillion citations.
I just finished a 19 page document this week using Enrico's
mac-emacs. It was great!
Mark
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs?
From: "Enrico Franconi" <franconi at cs.man.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:06:18 +0000
On March 8, Mark Guzdial writes:
> I deal with the slowdown by editing Enrico's loadup.el file. If you
> turn off all the BibCite things, the speed increases back to normal.
> I didn't notice the slowdown at first because I was editing a file
> that had no bibliography. I noticed the slowdown later when I was
> editing something with a bazillion citations.
I'll try to go into the details of bibcite this weekend. It seems to
me that just turning it off is a bit radical solution :-)
Bibcite is a very valuable package that is worthwhile keeping. So, I
hope to find a better workaround.
Thanks for pointing this out!
BTW: can you send me your file with a bazillion citations so that I
can test with it?
cheers
-- e.
Enrico Franconi - franconi at cs.man.ac.uk
University of Manchester - http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~franconi/
Department of Computer Science - Phone: +44 (161) 275 6170
Manchester M13 9PL, UK - Fax: +44 (161) 275 6204
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: could use some info/follow up please 2
From: "William McCallum" <mccallumwilliam at qwest.net>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 07:25:45 -0700
On Thursday, March 7, 2002, at 10:58 PM, get86 at mac.com wrote:
>
> about "configuring TeXShop to work with an external editor (i've been
> reading about the "glory" of this... where (or simply 'how') can i find
> out how to set up such a combo?
There's nothing fancy about it. Open the document in TeXShop using the
"Open for Preview" option, then open it in your text editor. You can
compile the file from the TeXShop window. There's a preference in
TeXShop that makes Open for Preview the default. See the TeXShop
documentation.
If you are using emacs with auctex you can configure it to fire up
TeXShop by editing the tex-site.el file to include the command "open -a
TeXShop %t" somewhere in its menu of external commands ... you will see
the appropriate structure when you open the file.
You can install auctex using fink or just download it from the auctex
site and build it yourself (worked fine for me). If you use fink and it
works, tell them, so they can move it from unstable to stable.
There are lots of other options which you can see by browsing the
archives of this list.
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Subject: [OS X TeX] Re: could use some info/follow up please 2
From: "Jon Guyer" <jguyer at his.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:47:10 -0500
At 12:58 AM -0500 3/8/02, get86 at mac.com wrote:
>that was funny post. (they don't say that, i'm the one changing
>everything bwuahaha. ;)
>(i'm the mac sys guy, OSX is my sword.:)
Uh... I don't find anything "smiley" about those statements.
SysAdmins inflicting their will on end users is highly questionable
behavior, regardless of the circumstances. We'd all squawk about it
if somebody posted here saying they were forcing all their users to
switch to Windows XP and Scientific Word and wanted our advice on how
to go about convincing them, so why is it somehow more palatable when
we hear you forcing people to Mac OS X and something other than
Alpha[*]?
The SysAdmin's job is to keep computers running smoothly so that
users don't have to. Yes, frequently you'll have a better sense of
the options than they will and you should bring them to their
attention. On the other hand, disrupting users and forcing changes in
functional systems simply to make your administration task easier is
reprehensible (and far too common you your field).
Yes, as a matter of fact, you /did/ strike a nerve.
[*] In the interests of complete disclosure, I am one of Alpha's
developers, but that is irrelevant here. It would bother me as much
if you were trying to force dedicated BBEdit, TeXShop, or emacs users
to switch to Alpha simply because it's what you know or it made your
life easier.
--
Jonathan E. Guyer
<http://www.his.com/jguyer/>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Re: could use some info/follow up please 2
From: "Aldo Manfroi" <ajm at saffy.ucsd.edu>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 10:28:54 -0800 (PST)
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Jon Guyer wrote:
> At 12:58 AM -0500 3/8/02, get86 at mac.com wrote:
>
> >that was funny post. (they don't say that, i'm the one changing
> >everything bwuahaha. ;)
> >(i'm the mac sys guy, OSX is my sword.:)
>
> Uh... I don't find anything "smiley" about those statements.
> ....
Could we keep this kind of discussions off the list please?
Thanks,
Aldo Manfroi
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Subject: WAY OT (re: to Jonathan E. Guyer)
From: <get86 at mac.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:56:05 -0500
first, this is not the place for this, is it?
i mean, you must know you invite reply, right? (and you did do it
publicly.)
i apologize that i feel i should reply here. i know i shouldn't have
and just "ate" it, but i'm tired. :( = "sad" face.
you seem to have made a critical mistake in you analysis... "rather
jumped the gun" i'd say... and right onto me!
your mistake? simple: the one that refers to "changing everything" is a
"winky", not a "smiley", yes, BIG DIFFERENCE. the one that states my
[and i only speak for me, not my clients -though i could] preference for
OSX is a "smiley" because i AM proud to be in service to these fine
people (i only service the Macs).
so, recap: "winkie" = "joking" or "jokingly".
"smiley" = "i like it".
if you think for one minute i didn't type as such... well, you must take
them serioulsy -look at your own post! and look at mine closer... maybe
it was thr "bwuhahaha" that got to you? yeah, that was a bit weird on my
part.
if you have, or have had, bad experiences and take *my happiness*
wrongly, well....
no worries.
i hope we can get along, and, get some salve on that exposed nerve. ;)
Ted
On Friday, March 8, 2002, at 09:47 AM, Jon Guyer wrote:
> At 12:58 AM -0500 3/8/02, get86 at mac.com wrote:
>
>> that was funny post. (they don't say that, i'm the one changing
>> everything bwuahaha. ;)
>> (i'm the mac sys guy, OSX is my sword.:)
>
> Uh... I don't find anything "smiley" about those statements. SysAdmins
> inflicting their will on end users is highly questionable behavior,
> regardless of the circumstances. We'd all squawk about it if somebody
> posted here saying they were forcing all their users to switch to
> Windows XP and Scientific Word and wanted our advice on how to go about
> convincing them, so why is it somehow more palatable when we hear you
> forcing people to Mac OS X and something other than Alpha[*]?
>
> The SysAdmin's job is to keep computers running smoothly so that users
> don't have to. Yes, frequently you'll have a better sense of the
> options than they will and you should bring them to their attention. On
> the other hand, disrupting users and forcing changes in functional
> systems simply to make your administration task easier is reprehensible
> (and far too common you your field).
>
> Yes, as a matter of fact, you /did/ strike a nerve.
>
>
> [*] In the interests of complete disclosure, I am one of Alpha's
> developers, but that is irrelevant here. It would bother me as much if
> you were trying to force dedicated BBEdit, TeXShop, or emacs users to
> switch to Alpha simply because it's what you know or it made your life
> easier.
>
> --
>
> Jonathan E. Guyer
> <http://www.his.com/jguyer/>
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Subject: batch convert eps to pdf using epstopdf
From: "Hanspeter Schaub" <HanspeterSchaub at mac.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:20:57 -0700
I have a simple question. I have installed the teTeX distribution for OS
X. Using the command line program epstopdf, I only seem to be able to
convert one eps image at a time. How can I batch convert a set of *.eps
files? I only know some very basic UNIX stuff, but I figured that must be
a slick way to do this?
thanks,
Hanspeter Schaub
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] batch convert eps to pdf using epstopdf
From: "Piet van Oostrum" <piet at cs.uu.nl>
Date: 08 Mar 2002 21:11:45 +0100
>>>>> Hanspeter Schaub <HanspeterSchaub at mac.com> (HS) writes:
HS> I have a simple question. I have installed the teTeX distribution for OS
HS> X. Using the command line program epstopdf, I only seem to be able to
HS> convert one eps image at a time. How can I batch convert a set of *.eps
HS> files? I only know some very basic UNIX stuff, but I figured that must be
HS> a slick way to do this?
In a terminal window:
foreach f (*.eps)
epstopdf $f
done
You could make this into a shell script.
--
Piet van Oostrum <piet at cs.uu.nl>
URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP]
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] batch convert eps to pdf using epstopdf
From: "Hanspeter Schaub" <HanspeterSchaub at mac.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 14:02:22 -0700
Thanks for pointer. However, I can't seem to get it to work. In a
terminal I type as you suggest below, but I get
hp% foreach f (*.eps)
foreach -> epstopdf $f
foreach -> done
foreach ->
How does one invoke the foreach command? I didn't find a man page on it.
thanks,
HP
On Friday, March 8, 2002, at 01:11 PM, Piet van Oostrum wrote:
>>>>>> Hanspeter Schaub <HanspeterSchaub at mac.com> (HS) writes:
>
> HS> I have a simple question. I have installed the teTeX distribution for
> OS
> HS> X. Using the command line program epstopdf, I only seem to be able to
> HS> convert one eps image at a time. How can I batch convert a set of
> *.eps
> HS> files? I only know some very basic UNIX stuff, but I figured that
> must be
> HS> a slick way to do this?
>
> In a terminal window:
>
> foreach f (*.eps)
> epstopdf $f
> done
>
> You could make this into a shell script.
> --
> Piet van Oostrum <piet at cs.uu.nl>
> URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP]
> Private email: P.van.Oostrum at hccnet.nl
>
>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] batch convert eps to pdf using epstopdf
From: "Martin Costabel" <costabel at wanadoo.fr>
Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 22:49:34 +0100
Hanspeter Schaub wrote:
>
> Thanks for pointer. However, I can't seem to get it to work. In a
> terminal I type as you suggest below, but I get
>
> hp% foreach f (*.eps)
> foreach -> epstopdf $f
> foreach -> done
> foreach ->
foreach is ended by 'end', not by 'done'. The latter is bash-speak. In
bash you would say
$ for f in *.eps; do epstopdf $f; done
> How does one invoke the foreach command? I didn't find a man page on it.
man tcsh
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Martin
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] batch convert eps to pdf using epstopdf
From: "Gerben Wierda" <sherlock at rna.nl>
Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:02:51 +0100
Replace done with end.
G
On Friday, March 8, 2002, at 10:02 , Hanspeter Schaub wrote:
> Thanks for pointer. However, I can't seem to get it to work. In a
> terminal I type as you suggest below, but I get
>
> hp% foreach f (*.eps)
> foreach -> epstopdf $f
> foreach -> done
> foreach ->
>
>
> How does one invoke the foreach command? I didn't find a man page on it.
>
> thanks,
>
> HP
>
> On Friday, March 8, 2002, at 01:11 PM, Piet van Oostrum wrote:
>
>>>>>>> Hanspeter Schaub <HanspeterSchaub at mac.com> (HS) writes:
>>
>> HS> I have a simple question. I have installed the teTeX distribution
>> for OS
>> HS> X. Using the command line program epstopdf, I only seem to be
>> able to
>> HS> convert one eps image at a time. How can I batch convert a set of
>> *.eps
>> HS> files? I only know some very basic UNIX stuff, but I figured that
>> must be
>> HS> a slick way to do this?
>>
>> In a terminal window:
>>
>> foreach f (*.eps)
>> epstopdf $f
>> done
>>
>> You could make this into a shell script.
>> --
>> Piet van Oostrum <piet at cs.uu.nl>
>> URL: http://www.cs.uu.nl/~piet [PGP]
>> Private email: P.van.Oostrum at hccnet.nl
>>
>>
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Subject: Re: [OS X TeX] Slowdown in mac-emacs?
From: "Ross Moore" <ross at ics.mq.edu.au>
Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 11:30:13 +1100 (EST)
> On March 8, Mark Guzdial writes:
> > I deal with the slowdown by editing Enrico's loadup.el file. If you
> > turn off all the BibCite things, the speed increases back to normal.
> > I didn't notice the slowdown at first because I was editing a file
> > that had no bibliography. I noticed the slowdown later when I was
> > editing something with a bazillion citations.
>
> I'll try to go into the details of bibcite this weekend. It seems to
> me that just turning it off is a bit radical solution :-)
> Bibcite is a very valuable package that is worthwhile keeping. So, I
> hope to find a better workaround.
> Thanks for pointing this out!
>
> BTW: can you send me your file with a bazillion citations so that I
> can test with it?
Having a bazillion citations can cause problems other than just speed.
It eats into the memory allocated for pool space .
We had to switch from Textures to pdfTeX on a book job, because
of lack of pool, due to lots of references.
You can increase it under teTeX but not in Textures.
Note however, that if you do alter the pool size then you have
to remake the format files; e.g. latex.fmt, pdflatex.fmt, etc.
Hope this helps,
Ross Moore
> cheers
> -- e.
>
> Enrico Franconi - franconi at cs.man.ac.uk
> University of Manchester - http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~franconi/
> Department of Computer Science - Phone: +44 (161) 275 6170
> Manchester M13 9PL, UK - Fax: +44 (161) 275 6204
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