[OS X TeX] i-Installer & Jaguar (10.2) Trivial Fix
Troy Goodson
Troy.D.Goodson at jpl.nasa.gov
Tue Oct 8 11:03:19 EDT 2002
On Tuesday, October 8, 2002, at 12:44 AM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
> On Tuesday, Oct 8, 2002, at 02:08 Europe/Amsterdam, Troy Goodson wrote:
>
>>> yet another translation. The result is that Carbon applications see
>>> colons, and everyone else sees slashes. This can create a
>>> user-visible schizophrenia in the rare cases of file names
>>> containing colon characters, which appear to Carbon applications as
>>> slash characters, but to BSD programs and Cocoa applications as
>>> colons.
>>
>> Not to start a flame war, but I've always been a little frustrated by
>> this decision (the part about Cocoa apps seeing colons) because it
>> means that filenames you see via Finder (which is Carbon) will be
>> different than filenames you see in Cocoa applications :(
>
> It is not even true as I discovered writing a particular workaround
> for i-Installer v2. When you have an Open Panel in a pure Cocoa App
> and you type a name with slashes in it, it is returned to the app with
> colons, not slashes.
>
> G
But isn't that consistent? Cocoa apps see "/" as the delimiter, so if a
user wants a file to have a "/" in the filename, the Cocoa application
must translate this to ":" (Of course, the user who knows that Cocoa
apps see "/" as the delimiter might think they should type a ":" to get
a "/" in a filename, but I guess these users are too smart for their
own good :)
To clarify, in the paragraph above, when one speaks of "presenting a
file to the user" they are talking about a file that is already in the
filesystem and that file is being displayed for the user by a Carbon or
Cocoa application.
You're talking about the process of naming a file. Personally, I
appreciate the functionality you've mentioned. I expect "/" to be a
valid character in a filename and, likewise, ";" to be invalid. When
an application asks me for a filename, I don't expect to be able to
enter a path. I expect to navigate the path and then type the
filename. This will, I can imagine, lead to confusion if your
filesystem is UFS instead of HFS+. I can come up with some ideas for
coping with this, but I certainly haven't thought about it as much as I
hope the people at Apple have.
But this is all off-topic, so I'll try and keep quiet about it from now
on :)
Troy.
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