[OS X TeX] TeX is not for the faint of heart
Schremmer.Alain at verizon.net
Tue May 4 09:27:26 EDT 2004
> Re. The reason I mentioned LyX and TeXmacs is that what you suggest,
> in this message and in the earlier one, is like reinventing them.
I did look up LyX and I did actually download it but I haven't tried to
open it yet. However, my /immediate/ reaction was "la mariée est trop
belle", this is too good to be true. What is the catch? Why was your
post the first time I saw it mentioned?
As for TeXmacs, I haven't looked it up because of what Samuel Lelièvre
TeXmacs is inspired by TeX, but does not use TeX as an engine.
which I don't understand. I mean what's the point? :-)
As for the rest of what you wrote, I understand and in the whole I agree
completely except where you write of the cathedral and the bazaar. I
like and need both. My only point was that for the rest of us who just
want to get started, the cathedral is a must. But indeed, after a while
some of the rest of us may venture in the bazaar and love it. If I were
not as old as I am, and I didn't have this last book to write and this
site to help get constructed, I would.
> As for the LaTeX documentation, it's there but hidden (in
> /Library/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/doc/), in a variety of formats
> (.html, .dvi, .ps, .pdf, .txt files) and with no central repository
> telling what's available and where to find it
> (/Library/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/doc/helpindex.html and
> /Library/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/doc/newhelpindex.html seems like two
> separate attempts towards this aim, but they're neither comprehensive
> nor up-to-date).
> A possibility could be to create an alias
> /Library/Documentation/teTeX/ to this folder
> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/doc/, so that at least this
> documentation folder would be at the logical place where to look for
> docs on Mac OS X.
> The problem with this is that the current TeX arborescence was
> designed to be cross-platform, or in any case more with a Unix view in
> mind than with a Mac OS view. And it is maintained by the TeX
> "authorities" still with this Unix/Linux view, not by the Mac porters.
> Hence it is something which cannot be really tailored for the Mac,
> unless risking to break the cross-platform nature.
> Gerben Wierda did already an awful lot of work for us, by making the
> installation of TeX on the Mac a breeze.
> I think that some major redesign of the TeX arborescence by the same
> TeX "authorities" is in the process, let's see what the future brings.
> Personally I hope that someday, maybe with LaTeX 3, all this structure
> with a base LaTeX core and a multitude of packages, several of them
> redundant, some conflicting with each other, not always maintained
> actively, with unexplicit names and each with its own documentation
> system and format, will disappear. And that instead all the most
> significant functionality will be consolidated into a single
> monolithic LaTeX, with a consistent interface, a coherent
> documentation of all the features, so that the user can do a one-stop
> shopping, a one-go install, and know that everything is there at hand.
> But such a suggestion feels like a cathedral vs. bazaar argument, and
> I must confess I prefer the cathedral, so I'm probably not objective.
> And finally: the second edition of the LaTeX Companion
> <http://www.awprofessional.com/title/0201362996>, to be available any
> day now, seems to do an impressive and extensive job of testing and
> documenting most of the significant packages around, so it might be a
> great help. Plus "The accompanying CD-ROM contains a complete
> plug-and-play LaTeX installation, including all the packages and
> examples featured in the book."
> Bruno Voisin
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