# [OS X TeX] Problems with Bibdesk using elsart.cls

Lisa Schweitzer lschwei at vt.edu
Sun Oct 3 19:29:08 EDT 2004

Whee!! I have a reference list!

What I ended up doing is following Michael's example. I honestly don't
know what I did wrong the first million times I tried these same
commands with the elsevier .bst files. However, now that I have the
list generated I can see what Maarten means. I also think that the
particular journal I am submitting to uses something slight different
than the generic format that Elsevier provides.  So I'll play with
making my own bst files--many thanks Maarten.

Now, if only I could get all this good advice on how to get tenure....
:-).

Thanks again,

Lisa

On Oct 3, 2004, at 3:19 PM, Maarten Sneep wrote:

> On 3 okt 2004, at 15:44, Lisa Schweitzer wrote:
>
>> Hi Maarten:
>>
>> Thanks for your answer. It confirmed something I was beginning to
>> suspect. I tried your suggestion this morning, and I can't even get
>> the blistering thing to open natbib.bst.
>>
>> The top-level auxiliary file: template-harv.aux
>> I couldn't open style file natbib.bst
>> ---line 73 of file template-harv.aux
>>  : \bibstyle{natbib
>>  :                 }
>>
>> I'm wondering if there isn't something wrong between the elsart class
>> and the natbib.  Maybe I should haven't tried to fix this before
>> coffee.
>
> Nope, natbib is not a bibliography style, it is a LaTeX package,
> designed to make life easier by changing the citation style
> (superscript numbers, numbers between {}[]()<> or whetever, author
> year (in various forms and formats). The .bst files (for elsevier that
> is elsart-num.bst or elsart-harv.bst) determine what goes where in the
> bibliography itself (and how it is sorted, ...)
>
> Be aware that Elsevier only supplies generic bst files, that are buggy
> (be careful with things that should be uppercase, the functions in the
> bst file make things lowercase in a very wrong way: they make
> everything lowercase, no matter how you protect them.  This is a
> problem if you cite articles from a German publication, where nouns
>
> This means you may need to come up with your own bst file. The least
> problematic way is to use the makebst script. Open a terminal, and
> type 'tex makebst' (without the quotes). Answer the questions, and in
> your home directory will find a .bst file that conforms to the answers
> you gave. The makebst script is also described in the latex companion.
>
> Maarten
>
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