# [OS X TeX] problem with \usepackage{times}

Raymond N. Greenwell matrng at hofstra.edu
Thu Jun 21 14:43:01 EDT 2007

```On Jun 21, 2007, at 2:16 PM, Jonathan Kew wrote:

> On 21 Jun 2007, at 5:44 pm, Raymond N. Greenwell wrote:
>
>> On Jun 21, 2007, at 4:28 AM, Bruno Voisin wrote:
>>
>>> Le 21 juin 07 à 09:07, Jonathan Kew a écrit :
>>>
>>>> On 21 Jun 2007, at 12:48 am, Raymond N. Greenwell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I recently got a new iMac and am now running OS 10.4.9. My old
>>>>> TeXShop from my old iMac (running 10.3.9) no longer worked, so
>>>>> I'm now running TeXShop 2.10beta8. All is well except for the
>>>>> command \usepackage{times}, which gives the error message: "***
>>>>> substitute Helvetica glyphs".
>>>>
>>>> This sounds like it's coming from the XeLaTeX engine; you must
>>>> have chosen this rather than regular LaTeX, and it is unable to
>>>> use the "virtual fonts" associated with the "times" (or
>>>> "mathptmx") packages, unless you also configure it to use the
>>>> xdvipdfmx output driver.
>
>> "This is a test" is in Times, but the math appears to be in
>> Helvetica, and the rightarrow (or "to") comes out as an
>> exclamation point. If I remove all the usepackage commands,
>> everything is fine in Computer Modern. I really want to have Times
>> for the text that's not in math, but with correct math
>> typesetting, as I had in the earlier version of TeXShop on my old
>> machine.
>>
>> Thanks to the other responders, but I was using LaTeX, not XeLaTex
>> or pdflatex, and I didn't add any fonts to my system after
>> installing MacTeX-2007.
>
> Do you still get a message (as you originally cited, see above) of
> the form "*** font <something> not found in psfonts.map or host
> system; will substitute Helvetica glyphs"?
>
> I am pretty confident that the only source of this message is the
> output driver used by xelatex, and therefore this would indicate
> xelatex; this in turn would account for the failure of certain font
> packages (those that depend on "virtual fonts").
>
> To confirm this, please check the first lines in the TeXShop
> console output, where the program doing the actual typesetting
> (which is not TeXShop itself but an underlying command-line tool)
> introduces itself, with words such as
>   "This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)"
> or
>   "This is XeTeXk, Version 3.141592-2.2-0.996 (Web2C 7.5.6)"
> or similar.
>
> JK
>
As a matter of fact, I am still getting the message: "*** font
Helvetica glyphs". And in the window, I see the message "This is
XeTeXk, Version 3.141592-2.2-0.996 (Web2C 7.5.6)".

To fix this, I tried going to the preferences, under miscellaneous,
and changed the TeX Program from xetex to tex, and the Latex Program
from xelatex to latex. Now I get the message: "This is pdfTeXk,
Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)" with no error messages. The
only small glitch is that the output comes out as a dvi file rather
than a pdf file, but double clicking on that file causes it to open
as a pdf. I get the warning message "The file was opened with
MacOSRoman encoding. The file could not be opened with Unicode
(UTF-8) encoding because it was not saved with that encoding." But I
don't see any problem with the pdf file, so I guess my problem is
solved.

Thanks!!!!

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