# Re: Documentation (was Re: [OS X TeX] Kanbun (漢文) and French...)

Franck Pastor franck.pastor at skynet.be
Sun Jan 4 11:44:48 EST 2009

Le 4 janv. 09 à 17:31, Herbert Schulz a écrit :

>
> On Jan 4, 2009, at 9:42 AM, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
>
>> On lundi 05 janv. 09, at 00:25, cfrees at imapmail.org wrote:
>>
>>> Well, TNR is obviously not an option since it is not free.
>>
>> I only mentioned TNR because it was the font discussed in the quote
>> I used.
>>
>>> The default must be guaranteed to be available on all the
>>> platforms TeX runs on.
>>
>> No. It certainly must not. There are software ways to test which
>> platform the application is running on to allow for settings
>> specific to that platform. Which means you could have a Windows
>> default font, a Mac default font and if the platform is not
>> recognized for whatever reason, use the application embedded
>> default font.
>>
>>> The default choices have to work in a huge variety of situations.
>>
>> Indeed. And that is not the case with Computer Modern. Computer
>> Modern works for exactly 2 languages in the world. English, and a
>> minority language that uses exactly the same characters. _That_ is
>> very far from a "huge variety of situations".
>>
>>> These are not _MacTeX_ choices at all.
>>
>> Then what is the point of MacTex at all ? If MacTex is made for the
>> OSX, then I can't see how changing the TeX default font to use a
>> font provided by default by the OS is a problem ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Jean-Christophe Helary
>
>
> Howdy,
>
> Using LaTeX I can simply save the file as UTF-8 (so that the
> accented characters are retained as such) and tell TeX that the file
> is encoded in UTF-8. So
>
> %%!TEX TS-program = pdflatex
> %%!TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode
> \documentclass{article}
> \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} % use this when using (pdf)latex
> \begin{document}
> This an è and an é!
> \end{document}
>
> works and is very simple. Unfortunately once you use characters
> outside the ASCII set there are multiple, incompatible
> representations so the second line is to tell TeXShop that the file
> should be saved and opened with UTF-8 encoding so the characters are
> displayed correctly; for other Editors use whatever they need for
> this. The fourth line tells LaTeX (pdflatex in this case) that UTF-8
> is being used to encode the extensions from ASCII.
>
> For XeLaTeX I'd use
>
> %%!TEX TS-program = xelatex
> %%!TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode
> \documentclass{article}
> \usepackage{xltxtra} % use this when using xelatex
> \begin{document}
> This an è and an é!
> \end{document}
>
> to accomplish the same thing. By default the xltxtra package uses
> the fontspec package which uses Latin Modern as the default font
> (supplied with MacTeX/TeX Live) and will display the accented
> characters correctly even without defining a font to use.
>
> In either case one extra line must be used to let the processor know
> that extensions to ASCII are being used.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Herb Schulz
> (herbs at wideopenwest dot com)

Agreed. But you have to add the usual "babel" line (for XeLaTeX, this
will be replaced one day by the polyglossia package, when it works well
—it didn't with French some time ago). At least for correct
hyphenation and keywords. So your template becomes

%%!TEX TS-program = xelatex
%%!TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{xltxtra} % use this when using xelatex
\usepackage[french]{babel}
\begin{document}
Dès Noël où un zéphyr haï me vêt de glaçons würmiens,
je dîne d'exquis rôtis de bœuf au kir à l'aÿ d'âge mûr, et cætera.
\end{document}