# [OS X TeX] Sierra 10.12.4

Herbert Schulz herbs at wideopenwest.com
Mon Apr 3 18:14:41 EDT 2017

> On Apr 3, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Simon Spiegel <simon at simifilm.ch> wrote:
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> Hi Herb,
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>> On 3 Apr 2017, at 14:25, Herbert Schulz <herbs at wideopenwest.com> wrote:
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>>
>> Howdy,
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>> As far as the copy/paste problem is concerned using the default OT1 font encoding (this is the default) will give rise to that problem since é is a combined character there. Add the line \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} to your preamble to use the  CMSuper fonts or ALSO add the line \usepackage{lmodern} to use the Latin Modern fonts.
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> I am not an expert on encoding, but I think the problem is more fundamental. For one, I use LuaLaTeX where fontenc et al. do not apply. On the other hand, I see this basically with every PDF, not matter where and how they were produced. This is definitely a problem of PDFKit. If I copy a german text from a PDF ä, ö and ü are copied incorrectly. They are displayed correctly, but they seem to be combined characters, as you say, but this is not LaTeX related (a typical scenario: I copy text from a PDF to TeXShop. An umlaut like „ä“ looks correct in the source, but when I typeset it, it is displayed as „a“ since it obviously wasn’t copied as a proper „ä“). Fl and fi ligatures aren’t copied at all, they just result in empty space. Acrobat on the other hand, handles both elements flawlessly.
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Howdy,

Try the enclosed sample.

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Open in TeXShop (or with UTF-8 encoding in another editor) or via the Terminal (using pdflatex). You should be able to Copy/Paste ok. Well, the spaces between the characters is lost probably because (pdf/xe)(la)tex doesn't really use space characters but glue.

Then comment out the \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} line and try it again. This time there is a problem.

Good Luck,

Herb Schulz
(herbs at wideopenwest dot com)